Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" Subject: AW: Best SD card for K10D > Hi William > Thanks for that quick response. > That does not sound very good but I will do a test print myself in the > next > days at the rail station with a portrait just to s

AW: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Markus Maurer
paper like the ones I got from the labs last year :-( greetings Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von William Robb Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. November 2006 00:18 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: Re: Best SD card for K10D

AW: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Markus Maurer
-Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Digital Image Studio Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2006 22:37 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: Re: Best SD card for K10D On 14/11/06, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rob >

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" Subject: AW: Best SD card for K10D > Hi William > do you see a quality difference in the prints or the used paper > between > these "Kiosk printers" and compared to the "lab way" of ordering > pri

Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 01:43:31PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > As an aside, I read somewhere (DPreview?) that someone used a 4GB SD card > that wasn't listed as being SDHC in one of their Pentax DSLR's that had the > appropriate firmware upgrade, and found the card to function perfectly. It

Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not yet that I've seen. G On Nov 13, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I've not seen any cards (SD or otherwise) rated faster than 150X. > Does > anyone know of any? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've not seen any cards (SD or otherwise) rated faster than 150X. Does anyone know of any? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > > There is no real "best". Buy the fastest SD card from a reliable > vendor at the best pricing you can find. Transcend 150x SD in 2G > capacity

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Same here. I've read lots of scanning tips and suggestions for a variety of techniques, but overall, it seemed that the Nikon worked just great with very little need for fiddling. Scanning B&W or color neg gave good, consistent results. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kenneth Waller > Its

Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
awlor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 11/13/2006 1:05:23 PM > Subject: Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D > > So, what is the Best SD card for K10D? Can it be answered before people get > the cameras? > Bill Lawlor > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Lacus
Doug, > Whopping large hard drives and recordable DVDs. Storing them is a lot > smaller problem than getting them indexed well enough to find the one > shot you want from a couple of years ago. yes indeed, storage in my interpretation means not just a physical place for data, but also some kind

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 13, 2006, at 1:21 PM, K.Takeshita wrote: >> It's one of the things I found to be a very desireable feature of >> APS: no manual handling of the film is required. This means less >> scratching, dust, spotting, etc. > > This is the MAJOR reason why I still use APS once in a while, > despit

Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
compliant for reliability. They're not particularly common just yet. I think Sandisk markets Ultra II spec cards (60x rated speed) in SD and SDHC specification. Godfrey On Nov 13, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Bill Lawlor wrote: > So, what is the Best SD card for K10D? Can it be answered before >

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/11/06, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rob > What kind of printer technology is inside a "Kiosk" and are they all the > same quality wise? > I see them coming here in the rail stations too but have not tried to print > so far. > The cost is 2-3 times higher than if you order a n

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread K.Takeshita
On 11/13/06 11:52 AM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's one of the things I found to be a very desireable feature of > APS: no manual handling of the film is required. This means less > scratching, dust, spotting, etc. This is the MAJOR reason why I still use APS once in a whi

Re: On Topic Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Bill Lawlor
So, what is the Best SD card for K10D? Can it be answered before people get the cameras? Bill Lawlor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, but it's easy enough to scan the entire roll first and then cut and sleeve the negs. That's the way we did it. And of course all the Nikons that I've used will automatically scan negs cut in strips of six frames. Of course, if the negs have already been cut, the entire roll can't be auto-sc

AW: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Markus Maurer
illiam Robb Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2006 14:49 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: Re: Best SD card for K10D - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D The point and shoot folks I know are more than happy with digital. Here in the stat

AW: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Markus Maurer
ngs Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Digital Image Studio Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2006 13:30 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: Re: Best SD card for K10D On 13/11/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That'

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
Its all relative to the equipment used. I use a Nikon Super Cools 4000 ED scanner on my slide captured images & get very good results without any fiddling. YMMV Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Best SD card

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote: >On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > >> I don't think I've ever enjoyed anything about scanning but the final >> results; I'd rather poke myself in the eye than scan films. I don't >> really think that the print booths are in the same league. > >Same here.

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 13, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Nikon makes one that will automatically scan an entire roll of 35mm > film. > I've used it - don't recall the model (Super Coolscan 4000 and Super > Coolscan 5000 come to mind). When I bought my scanner I believe > the 5000 > model, inclu

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Nikon makes one that will automatically scan an entire roll of 35mm film. I've used it - don't recall the model (Super Coolscan 4000 and Super Coolscan 5000 come to mind). When I bought my scanner I believe the 5000 model, including the bulk film attachment, was selling for less than $1500.00 Sh

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, the SF-200 for the Super Coolscan 4000 ED and the SF-210 for the Super Coolscan 5000 ED allow up to 50 slides per load to be scanned automatically. I believe they also have an adapter that will scan full 35mm film rolls (uncut) in one load. The APS adapter is the same for either (and al

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
For some, in some situations. Depends on skill level and equipment. With one of the Nikon scanners I used, I's set a roll of film into the feeder and go do something else - eat lunch, make phone calls, cook - whatever. Once the negs were scanned the amount of time required to edit and process ea

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I refrained from commenting on that comment ... but at least Paul will agree to disagree ;-)) The reality is that not everyone has the same needs and skills, and what works well for one person may not work well for the next. Making such generalized statements really serves little purpose, IMO.

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon PM 02:10:53 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I saw a TV ad that described how you could take your card to a store to be printed and images put on a CD, and then this store would send the files to other stores in their chain where prints could be made and friends/relatives could just walk in and pick up the finished pics or a CD. Kind of neat,

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: 11/13/2006 2:18:15 AM > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D Paul wrote: > > I consider my system modest, but I have approximately one terabyte of > > hard disk space, and I'm going to add another 500 g

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
But are the pigs really happy, or are the just stuck in do do Let's ask some pigs. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Digital Image Studio > It seems to work here. The remaining photo print shops now also have a > row of kiosk style print machines where the pleb, I mean the customer, > simply

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon PM 12:56:40 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:30 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > > > It seems to work here. The rema

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon PM 12:40:40 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > On 13/11/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Fo

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
But you don't have to use a kiosk. Most places around here you can just drop your card off. You get it back when you pick up your pics. On Nov 13, 2006, at 8:49 AM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject: Re: Best SD ca

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D Those same folks can just drop their card off and come out an hour later with a handful of 6x4s. You don't even have to own a computer to shoot shapshots with a digital camera. It works the s

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D The point and shoot folks I know are more than happy with digital. Here in the states you can upload your picture files to Costco and pick up your 4x6 prints at the store half an hour later. Or yo

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
52 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/11/13 Mon AM 11:23:02 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D >> >> Scanning negatives is much more time consuming and much more >> d

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > I don't think I've ever enjoyed anything about scanning but the final > results; I'd rather poke myself in the eye than scan films. I don't > really think that the print booths are in the same league. Same here. I always wished I could

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:30 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > It seems to work here. The remaining photo print shops now also have a > row of kiosk style print machines where the pleb, I mean the customer, > simply inserts it's card and selects the images to print. They can > select size, quantity a

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/11/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For about the first dozen times, I enjoyed scanning, too. Can't remember > when I last did one. I don't think I've ever enjoyed anything about scanning but the final results; I'd rather poke myself in the eye than scan films. I don't really

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/11/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's your perception. Now look at the person who shot a roll of film, took > it wherever and came out an hour later (having done something else in the > meantime) with a handful of 6x4s, a proportion of which they would throw > away. Wil

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon PM 12:30:26 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > On 13/11/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
; Date: 2006/11/13 Mon AM 10:51:18 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D >> >>> All comparative. You are looking at at least £1000 of equipment in >>> the UK, assuming that you have decent accessories such as monitors. >>

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon AM 11:23:02 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > Scanning negatives is much more time consuming and much more > difficult than processing digital files. All this

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon AM 10:51:18 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > All comparative. You are looking at at least £1000 of equipment in > > the UK, assumi

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
, mike wilson wrote: > >> >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/11/12 Sun PM 10:38:36 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D >> >> I consider my system modest, but I have approximately one t

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 13, 2006, at 5:51 AM, John Whittingham wrote: > >> Plus, we haven't even started on the extra time our hobby now takes. >> How quickly did you get cheesed off with scanning negatives? >> That's about the time the "average person" will take to get >> thoroughly sick of the "fiddling" (a des

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread John Whittingham
on <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:18:04 + Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2006/11/12 Sun PM 10:38:36 GMT > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > &

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/13 Mon AM 04:58:25 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject: R

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/12 Sun PM 10:38:36 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > I consider my system modest, but I have approximately one terabyte of > hard disk space, and I'm goin

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/12 Sun PM 06:30:09 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > Film is expensive. I used to spend about $2000/year on film. And at > least another $500 on chemicals and

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Cotty
On 12/11/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >But productivity generates cash. Cash generates quality. I'm intrigued sir. The first sentence I understand, but the second one I am at a loss with... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|h

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't think that's a given. Cash generates cash what sells is not necessarily quality. As I recall, there was a discussion about this a couple of years ago, and one of the list members described the parameters by which his photos were chosen. Things like color, size, how well they'd match

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Adam Maas
Peter Lacus wrote: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >> Usually a 1GB card in the DS will carry me through shooting for a day, but >> there have been a few times when I've needed more capacity, which I now >> have in the way of multiple 1GB cards. I was going to buy a 2GB card, but > > 1GB a day? :-O >

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
, but it's subtle. It's dependent on the quality of the film scan. I think MF digital will be a significant improvement, and I'm waiting to see where that takes us. Paul On Nov 12, 2006, at 11:58 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > But productivity generates cash. Cash generates quality. It's a > vicious circle:-). > You've decided that 6mp digital is equivalent to medium or large format then? Wil

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
But productivity generates cash. Cash generates quality. It's a vicious circle:-). Paul On Nov 12, 2006, at 10:18 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "George Sinos" > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > >> >> For

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "George Sinos" Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > For those that don't want to view the clip - Jensen says > (paraphrasing) that good photographers are good photographers > regardless of technology. Digital just enables t

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
FWIW: Fry's has an in-store special going on Seagate 500G external drives in enclosures, supporting USB 2.0 and FireWire 400. 500G, 7200rpm, 16M cache ... $239. You can get a little cheaper on line if you hunt, but I'm happy enough with this series enclosure that I bought a second one to tw

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Doug Franklin
Peter Lacus wrote: > 1GB a day? :-O Today, I shot over 5GB of RAW photos. When I'm at the track, 5-8GB a day of RAWs is about par for the course. Unless K10D RAW files are about the same size as *ist D RAW files, that'll be going up soon. :-) > How do you store all those pictures? Whopping la

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/11/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I consider my system modest, but I have approximately one terabyte of > hard disk space, and I'm going to add another 500 gigabytes soon. > I've also backed up 600 gigabytes of photo files on DVD. It's > inexpensive and easy. I have a dedica

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread George Sinos
iginal Message - > From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > > > Film is expensive. I used to spend about $2000/year on film. And at > > least another $500 on chemicals and BW paper. A 500 gigabyte hard > > drive, which will hold a couple

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I consider my system modest, but I have approximately one terabyte of hard disk space, and I'm going to add another 500 gigabytes soon. I've also backed up 600 gigabytes of photo files on DVD. It's inexpensive and easy. Paul On Nov 12, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Right now I've

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Right now I've only got about 300gb of useable hard drive space. Of that, the O/S, the Page File, and some programs take a bite. I could use another large drive or two, mainly to get the files into an archive that can be accessed and to free up hard disk space on the computer. What really ate in

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/11/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True. But many of us were scanning film and printing digitally long > before we switched to digital cameras. So those costs were already > covered. With film and digital printing, things got expensive. > Eliminating the film cost was a blessi

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
started. So it's worth > investigating all the capital costs up front before you buy your first > dslr. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Paul Stenquis

RE: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Bob W
your first dslr. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul Stenquist > Sent: 12 November 2006 18:30 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > Film is expensive. I used to

RE: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Bob W
> > > Usually a 1GB card in the DS will carry me through shooting > for a day, but > > there have been a few times when I've needed more capacity, > which I now > > have in the way of multiple 1GB cards. I was going to buy > a 2GB card, but > > 1GB a day? :-O > > I don't have a digital SLR y

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > Film is expensive. I used to spend about $2000/year on film. And at > least another $500 on chemicals and BW paper. A 500 gigabyte hard > drive, which will hold a couple of years wor

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
wrote: > >> >> From: Peter Lacus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/11/12 Sun PM 03:57:06 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D >> >> Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> >>> Usually a 1GB card in the DS will ca

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Shel, > depends on subject(s) and situation. I've used a couple of rolls of film > on just one subject while sitting and talking with them over the course of > a half an hour or so. I've also gone out for a day and only made five or > six exposures. ok, I see. I rarely made more than about doze

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Mike, >> How do you store all those pictures? > Open your wallet, hold it out and say "Help yourself." Film is so > expensive, don't you know? hmm, I'd say what I'm saying on many occasions: It depends. :-) Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Peter Lacus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/12 Sun PM 03:57:06 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Best SD card for K10D > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Usually a 1GB card in the DS will carry me through shooting for a day, but

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
A GB of pics in RAW for the istDS is only about 95 pics, which isn't even three rolls of 36-exp film. That's not a lot of pics for a full day of shooting. Of course, many of us have made even more exposures. A lot depends on subject(s) and situation. I've used a couple of rolls of film on just

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Usually a 1GB card in the DS will carry me through shooting for a day, but > there have been a few times when I've needed more capacity, which I now > have in the way of multiple 1GB cards. I was going to buy a 2GB card, but 1GB a day? :-O I don't have a digital SLR yet

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, Usually a 1GB card in the DS will carry me through shooting for a day, but there have been a few times when I've needed more capacity, which I now have in the way of multiple 1GB cards. I was going to buy a 2GB card, but decided to hold off as I wasn't sure if I'd need a new card reader for i

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On my recent trip, I carried a wallet with six cards in it: four 2G and two 1G, plus a 2G in the camera. Capturing entirely in RAW format with the DS, I only once actually filled a 2G in the course of a single day's shooting and had to fit a second card... but I often shot just enough to ha

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's pretty much my decision at this point. The cards are marginal in size for me. Anything smaller - even a little smaller - would be difficult to handle. As it is, there are times when I can't get a solid grip on the card, but, fortunately, that's only when trying to remove it from the built

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-12 Thread Doug Franklin
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > TheK10D will take 4GB SDHC cards, although a few of us here suggest > sticking with the 2GB cards until there are more card readers and cards > available with the new standard. I've pretty much decided to stick with 1GB and 2GB media (I've been using 1GB in my *ist D) just

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
NiMH and Li-Ion batteries do not have the "memory" characteristics of NiCad batteries. Godfrey On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > That's true. I don't know if this applies to Nimh batteries, but > nicads can be "trained' to discharge faster. When my son and I raced > electri

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:16 AM, John Celio wrote: >> Every camera manufacturer wants that because it nets them more profit >> in accessory sales. That doesn't mean the battery is proprietary ... >> Pentax buys it from the same source that other brands buy it from. > > And considering the number of b

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/11 Sat PM 06:03:45 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D) > > So, what we want is a 7.4 volt battery (for the K10D) wi

RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
scuss Mail List" Sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:42:24 -0800 Subject: RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D) > Hi, > > I've been using a K18/3.5 for some time now on the istDS. I like it > quite a bit, although there are a few K lenses that are a bit > sharper.

RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
ct: RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D) > Hi, > > I've been using a K18/3.5 for some time now on the istDS. I like it > quite a bit, although there are a few K lenses that are a bit > sharper. But absolute sharpness isn't everything, at least for me. > Ton

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's true. I don't know if this applies to Nimh batteries, but nicads can be "trained' to discharge faster. When my son and I raced electric radio control cars, I would train the nicads by discharging them on a resistor pack with just 1/2 an ohm resistance. I had some 1800 mAh C batteries

RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I've been using a K18/3.5 for some time now on the istDS. I like it quite a bit, although there are a few K lenses that are a bit sharper. But absolute sharpness isn't everything, at least for me. Tonal rendition, ease of use, size, are all considerations. Here's a shot I recently posted u

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Peter Lacus
John Celio wrote: > And considering the number of batteries out there with the exact same form > factor (power contacts aside) as the one Pentax is using in the K10D (Canon, > Nikon, and KonicaMinolta have all used it, as well as others), I want to > know who makes and holds the patents for the

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread John Celio
> Every camera manufacturer wants that because it nets them more profit > in accessory sales. That doesn't mean the battery is proprietary ... > Pentax buys it from the same source that other brands buy it from. And considering the number of batteries out there with the exact same form factor (po

Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
Jan, Godfrey, Shel, thanks for the kind words and invaluable advice. It's good to be back on the list again. I think I'll leave the spare battery and SD card until closer to the purchase time as is the concensus of opinion here. I've just found what I think is a remote control F, I used it with

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK. So it seems to be that the best approach is to stick with a known brand of good quality, and use the highest mah that can be found. Great - you and Adam have answered my questions just fine. Thanks! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > You shouldn't use a battery with h

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You shouldn't use a battery with higher or lower rated voltage, and I suspect that there will be none available. Higher voltages can cause overheating, lower voltages might not provide the potential to drive the camera systems. Actual voltage delivered will vary by some no matter what, anyw

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, what we want is a 7.4 volt battery (for the K10D) with the largest mah that works in the physical size and form that will fit the camera. OK, I understand that. Now, what happens if one uses a battery with greater or lesser voltage? I'm sure there's a point at which the bats won't work prope

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As Adam said... A 1500mAh battery of a particular type might provide power for small percentage less time than a 1750mAh battery, but with respect to form factor and voltage they will be identical. Sometimes the mAh ratings aren't particularly accurate. For instance, I have a Sony and a CTA

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Every camera manufacturer wants that because it nets them more profit in accessory sales. That doesn't mean the battery is proprietary ... Pentax buys it from the same source that other brands buy it from. Godfrey On Nov 11, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > OK, I agree with you, you

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
mAh is a measure of capacity, the more you have, the longer the battery will last in a given application. 2500mAh is likely not possible in that form factor, to make a 7.4v 2500mAh battery would require a physically larger battery. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Godfrey, > > Does it matter mu

Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Godfrey, Does it matter much if one uses a 1500, 1700, or 1750 mah battery? What do those numbers actually mean? Could one use a 2500 mah battery (assuming one was available)? What I'm getting at, if I'm not clear, is that I heard that batteries for the Pentax need to be within some certain r

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK, I agree with you, you're right. I did use "proprietary" incorrectly. However, perhaps Pentax would like us, or at least some/many of their customers to believe that the Pentax branded battery is the only one that should or can be used. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi >

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 11, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > ... I'd look at the NP-400 battery for the Minolta as a good choice > for > replacing the proprietary battery for the Pentax. It's been > reported that > it's the same battery. ... Not to pick on you, Shel, but ... I'm waiting for when p

RE: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ouch! I know that one, having done the same thing while riding (actually, while falling) from a mountain bike. Glad to know that you're mending. Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Whittingham > I've been absent from the list for quite some time, it's been a difficult > year with all man

RE: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I see you've gotten a couple of responses, and I'd pretty much echo those. For the most part, it almost doesn't matter what brand of SD card you get, although I'd suggest sticking with those that have been mentioned here since they are proven cards. Lexar is good but pricey, as is Kingston, a

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh yes: I forgot to add about the battery. It has been confirmed by three separate, reliable sources that the Pentax K10D uses a 1700 mah version of the NP-400 Li-Ion battery used in the Konica Minolta A2 and other cameras. This is a good battery, and is easily available in 1500, 1700 and 17

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hello John, Good luck for a better year to come! Regards SD cards, I've been using Sandisk Ultra II (60x) 1G & 2G and Transcend 150x 2G cards for the past couple of years with no problems at all. The Transcend 150x 2G cards are much less expensive (around $40 at NewEgg.com). On the remote

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