In a message dated 6/20/2004 7:22:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic".
--
True (and I have heard that before), but the underpinning of fantasy is magic
magic. Wave w
Mine was Islands in the Sky by Arthur C Clarke. I was about 6. Hooked ever since. I
think I learnt most of my physics from authors like Clarke, Pournelle, Asimov (left
hand of the electron), and others. Love rereading some of the old ones again.
Nick
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From: "grayw
Agreed. Fantasy and Scifi provide novel ways to explore the human
condition, which is why Dune and Foundation and most of Le Guin are so
attractive. I've always thought "The Left Hand of Darkness", a book
about a human variant without permanent genders, was a truly marvelous
work by Le Guin. And
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
I've always felt that good fantasy and good scifi use magic/technology
in a consistent way that allows the reader to suspend disbelief without
actually turning off too much of your thinking. In other words, the
effect of magi
DF> A buddy and I used to muse about making "Dune" into movies, but we
DF> figured that to do it right would require far more money than even the
DF> most expensive movies so far, and some technology not yet developed to
DF> allow the viewers to "get inside the heads" of the characters.
DF> Especi
In a message dated 6/18/2004 12:15:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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12 heh? This makes for an interesting question. Can you remember the first SF
you ever read, when, and what was it. Me: "Space Ship Under the Apple Tree" I
haven't a qlue who the author was. I would guess I
12 heh? This makes for an interesting question. Can you remember the first SF
you ever read, when, and what was it. Me: "Space Ship Under the Apple Tree" I
haven't a qlue who the author was. I would guess I was about 7.
By the time I was 12 I had read every SF in the Detroit Public Library plus
Marnie,
Speaking of David Brin, I read the first Uplift novel (SunDiver) on
the way to/from GFM. Just picked up the second and third novels. He
is quite good.
Bruce
Friday, June 18, 2004, 11:31:53 AM, you wrote:
Eac> In a message dated 6/18/2004 9:52:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Eac> [EMAIL
Yeah. I want a Stoned Vlcek V2. Maybe in Olive . . . .
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Hi,
Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
> If that's true, I wi
In a message dated 6/18/2004 9:52:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Personally, I find the "Dune" and "Foundation" series and "SiaSL" to be
more politico-sociological than SciFi; they just happen to be set in
the far future.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
--
I wouldn'
Hi,
Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
If that's true, I will just have to make my own. I am getting a good supply
of (technical!) super-heavy-grade hemp cloth so be prepared to see
some Stoned (TM) camera bags at next EuroPDML ;-)
Are these going to be for sale?
mike
>> Marnie aka Doe Been reading sci-fi since I was 12 years old.
>
>Late starter, eh? I had access to my father's _huge_ collection of pulp
>mags from a very early age. All consigned to oblivion in the interests
>of "tidiness"... 8-(
>mike
Started about 13 or so. It was a fabulous int
Some of my earliest memeories of reading were (aside from school books
or Dr. Seuss) were Tom Corbett, Space Cadet. Of course, now I feel
really old and it's Marnie's fault.
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In a message dated 6/16/2004 11:06:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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In a message dated 6/16/2004 11:06:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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That first adaptation "Dune" is one of the worst examples of that. The
second adaptation is much better, but misses the mark by a wide margin.
The all time worst, though, might be Stephen King's "The Stand".
My mistake. I also have an F2. I hadn't heard Domke was out of
business. Of course, even if they are, B&H may take years to run out
of inventory.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Thursday, June 17, 2004, 4:15:19 PM, Steve wrote:
SD> Just to get back on topic for a second (sorry) I got a Domke F1 a few
SD> years ago. It's a little big, but I really do like it.
It's about OK size if you need to put full assignment gear into it.
They are nice bags, I have myself F2 and F80
Just to get back on topic for a second (sorry) I got a Domke F1 a few
years ago. It's a little big, but I really do like it.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Cotty,
Great bag the Mini Trekker. I obtained one at GFMtn. I have yet to take my
gear out of it and use my bum bag :-)
I wonder how much gear I can actually put in it and still keep it
manageable... I still have my 200/2.8 and 20/4 still sitting in it along
with my usual carry around lenses.
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:15:08 +0200, Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
> OMG, a film version of I,Robot?
Based on the (very short) trailer or ad I saw the other day, I expect
it to bear only the weakest resemblance to the written tales. It'll
have robots and humans in it, but that looks like where the resem
ouldian Finches... Was OT: SciFi was:Re: Camera Bag Enabled
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:42:19 -0600
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> Birds of a feather, Bill?
>
> Speaking of birds... we have
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:15:08 +0200, Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
> OMG, a film version of I,Robot?
Based on the (very short) trailer or ad I saw the other day, I expect
it to bear only the weakest resemblance to the written tales. It'll
have robots and humans in it, but that looks like where the resem
>More on the film versions, poor great PK Dick must be rotating in grave
>because of all the bad adaptations of his work into movies. Except
>Blade Runner, all of the other movies "hoovered" big time. It's
>strange that of all writers, his were adapted often, but very badly.
Actually the origina
>
>
> OMG, a film version of I,Robot? I must have completely missed the
> news. If the Solaris analogy applies, I would dislike it, because I am
> a lover of Tarkovskij version. And of Stanislaw Lem. BTW, how many US
> PDMLers know St. Lem? Or brothers Strugackijs? These are one of the
> world's
It's funny, the SF community is much like the Pentax community, they
feel they're in some kind of a getto and most
of them are friends.
Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 4:53:19 PM, Peter wrote:
PJA> He died young with no one to protect his legacy. (If you want to see an
PJA> adap
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 4:53:19 PM, Peter wrote:
PJA> He died young with no one to protect his legacy. (If you want to see an
PJA> adaptation that hoovers read Heinline's Starship
PJA> Troopers before you see the movie, I have nothing but revulsion for the
PJA> sequel, not yet released).
I did
He died young with no one to protect his legacy. (If you want to see an
adaptation that hoovers read Heinline's Starship
Troopers before you see the movie, I have nothing but revulsion for the
sequel, not yet released).
Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 12:15:47 AM, Yefei wrote:
Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 12:15:47 AM, Yefei wrote:
YH> Who's directing the film? It may end up the same disaster as
YH> Hollywood's "Solaris" -- Average movie goers got bored by it,
YH> fans of Tarkovsky's version despised it, and fans of
YH> Stanislaw Lem's book hated it ( many of them felt T
How about P.K.Dick, anybody? :)
_fra_
Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 11:43:03 PM, Peter wrote:
PJA> That's something to look for...
PJA> Cotty wrote:
>>On 15/6/04, GIANFRANCARLO, discombobulated, offered:
>>
>>
>>
[* I had a brilliant job today - met one of my all-time
>>>heroes
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From: "Tom C"
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> Thank you.
Your welcome.
You owe me an old fashioned.
b...
Thank you.
Tom C.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:38:26 -0600
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From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: OT:
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From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: OT: SciFi was:Re: Camera Bag Enabled
>
> Call me old-fashioned...
You are old fashioned...
WW
another try, or a third:-)
Yefei
>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:18:55 +0200
> From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Yeah, I'd love to see a Foundation mini-series. I too have long been a
Gerry Anderson fan... UFO, Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlett, The Bishop...
Clifford D. Simak wrote some great science fiction too... like Way Station.
Tom C.
I Robot is coming out shortly. Do you think it will be any good?
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From: "Yefei He" Subject: RE: OT: SciFi was:Re: Camera Bag Enabled
> But since Will Smith is doing
> the action, maybe average movie goers will like "I Robot".
There was action in "I Robot"?
William Robb
is doing
the action, maybe average movie goers will like "I Robot".
Yefei
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:57:05 -0500
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as well ). But since Will Smith is doing
the action, maybe average movie goers will like "I Robot".
Yefei
>
> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:57:05 -0500
> From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT: SciFi was:Re: Camera Bag Enabled
> Me
Damn, you were lucky, at College, I signed up for a course called
History Through Science Fiction, the required reading
included Bellamy, for his book "Looking Backward" and all of the most
politically correct of SF authors, the most readable
of which was Verne. When I asked why we weren't readi
one way of translating the Arabic words 'al-Qaida' is 'the
Foundation'. Some people have claimed that Osama bin Laden is an
Asimov fan. This article says that the Aum terrorists in Japan were
certainly inspired by his books.
http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,779530,00.html
Foundatio
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:45:05 -0700
I agree about getting an Asimov story on film. Star Trek: N.G. paid homage
with Mr. Data having a positronic brain. I think, too, one of the
Asimov's
Three Laws
Bob W wrote:
Hi,
Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 8:57:05 PM, Gonz wrote:
I saw the previews of "I Robot" recently. I don't know what to make of
it. On one hand I'm happy that major studios have finally taken up an
Asimov classic SciFi story and made a movie out of it. On the other
hand, I'm afraid of
Considering what they did to the Wild Wild West, and that was only a TV
show, I think I'll close my mind unless someone
I trust tells me I should do otherwise.
Gonz wrote:
I saw the previews of "I Robot" recently. I don't know what to make
of it. On one hand I'm happy that major studios have
On 15/6/04, STEVE DJ, discombobulated, offered:
>BTW, Cotty, there is a course in our English dept on fantasy literature
>and it includes some SciFi. After many animated conversations in the
>gym, my colleague invited me to do 3 or 4 lectures on some books of my
>choosing. I've now done this for
I used to watch "Thunderbirds" as a kid. I also think I built a plastic
model of every damn one of those things. Now that brings back
memories.
BTW, Cotty, there is a course in our English dept on fantasy literature
and it includes some SciFi. After many animated conversations in the
gym, my co
On 14 Jun 2004 at 22:40, Cotty wrote:
> I had a Lowepro Micro Trekker 200 which is pretty diddy really, so I got
> a Mini Trekker AW from Morris Photo in Oxford. I don't like these massive
> bags that you see, and besides, shoe-horning everything in is a challenge...
>
> http://www.macads.co.uk/s
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