Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA (Update)

2015-07-31 Thread Mark C
As an update to this little saga - the vendor of the most recent card that I purchased asked me to send some photos of the installation. So I reinstalled the card - and again it did not work - and I proceeded to get several snaps of it to document how it was installed. I then rebooted the PC..

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-31 Thread Toine
Maybe they should have stocked more duck tape: http://hansmiddendorp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wilnis-doorbraak.jpg In 2003 a dike started floating because it's made from peat. This year several dikes made from peat face the same danger due to drought. Toine On 30 July 2015 at 19:42, Bob W-

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-30 Thread John
Modegreen is a recursive form of mondegreen. Somewhere around here I still have several partial rolls of GSA cloth tapes that fall within the "Duck Tape" universe. They came in several flavors of green - ranging from an almost Kelly Green suitable for St. Patrick's Day decorations to a 3 inch wi

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-30 Thread Bob W-PDML
You guys need dijk tape to stop this sort of thing from happening all the time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Brinker,_or_The_Silver_Skates#/media/File:Hans_Brinker_Madurodam.jpg B > On 30 Jul 2015, at 10:28, Toine wrote: > > As a dutchman I enjoyed reading: "Cotton duck (from Dutch:

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-30 Thread P.J. Alling
Shouldn't that be mondegreen? Speaking of Duck Tape and Green. I live about 35 miles from Electric Boat in Groten/New London, and that facility at one time supplied it's own Duck Tape, which was referred to as EB Green due to it's distinctive color. It was the Gold Standard of Duct tapes, mu

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-30 Thread P.J. Alling
Hum, Wikipedia, might be right. Might not. On 7/29/2015 5:18 PM, John wrote: On 7/29/2015 12:39 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 7/28/2015 5:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Toine wrote: I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.j

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-30 Thread John
It was interesting reading. I first heard it called "Duct-tape" and thought "Duck Tape" was a modegreen. Now I know that it was indeed originally "Duck" tape, only referring to a different meaning of "duck". Learn something new every day - try to anyway. Although ... For PDML purposes shouldn'

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-30 Thread Toine
As a dutchman I enjoyed reading: "Cotton duck (from Dutch: doek)" maybe I should call it doektape in the future. On 29 July 2015 at 23:18, John wrote: > On 7/29/2015 12:39 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: >> >> On 7/28/2015 5:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Toine wrote: I would cut the

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-29 Thread John
On 7/29/2015 12:39 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 7/28/2015 5:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Toine wrote: I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg Once the PCI card is inserted apply some duck tape from the inside to restor

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-29 Thread John
https://tw-projects.s3.amazonaws.com/twduckbrand/prod/images/products/00-03023-01-resized_resized.jpg On 7/28/2015 5:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Toine wrote: I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg Once the PCI car

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-29 Thread John
I normally would have picked one up at the Tiger Direct store, but they closed that too. That's why I recommend "your local computer geek shop". Plus, if it's a *real* computer geek shop & they don't have it in stock, they can make one for you. On 7/29/2015 12:48 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: RadioSha

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-29 Thread Larry Colen
Mark C wrote: Thanks, Larry - I am contemplating this. The other cards have the connectors turned 90 degrees. The card that had the connectors that were blocked by the case could be modified to fit in a low profile case - so they rotated the connectors to decrease the footprint. I never conside

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-29 Thread Mark C
Thanks - I have been giving that serious consideration since I have an excellent pair of tin snips on hand already. But am not sure it would work. I would not only have to cut out enough for the USB plug to fit into the socket, but also would need to cut out enough for any plastic base around

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread mike wilson
Bob told me that it was invented by an ex-patriot Yorshireman who relocated to France and was granted nobility before the revolution. Hence Duc T'Ape. I think that's a bit fanciful. Whoever heard of a noble Yorkshireman? On 28 July 2015 at 22:20, Mark Roberts wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: > >>I r

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 02:09:49PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Toine wrote: > >I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: > >http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg > > > >Once the PCI card is inserted apply some duck tape from the inside to > >restore air

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread P.J. Alling
RadioShack probably has it for quite a bit less. Unfortunately due to circumstances, RadioShacks have become somewhat hard to find, and may no longer stock a full range of parts. On 7/28/2015 11:41 AM, John wrote: Check your local computer geek shop. They should have an over-priced SATA to Mo

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread P.J. Alling
On 7/28/2015 5:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Toine wrote: I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg Once the PCI card is inserted apply some duck tape from the inside to restore airflow conditions like before. I reali

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Larry - I am contemplating this. The other cards have the connectors turned 90 degrees. The card that had the connectors that were blocked by the case could be modified to fit in a low profile case - so they rotated the connectors to decrease the footprint. I never considered that they

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Rick Womer
The things one learns on this group! swarf (n): material (as metallic particles and abrasive fragments) removed by a cutting or grinding tool. Origin: probably from Middle English *swerf, from Old English geswearf, gesweorf; akin to Old English sweorfan to file away. Rick http://photo.net/photos

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Darren Addy
http://www.duckbrand.com/ On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Toine wrote: >> >> I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: >> http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg >> >> Once the PCI card is inserted apply some duck tape from the insid

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >I realize that pedantry is almost unheard of on PDML, but the tape is >"duct tape" not "duck tape". Wow. All this time I've thought it was "Duct Ape", a sort of primate that lives in central air conditioning systems. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertste

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Larry Colen
Toine wrote: I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg Once the PCI card is inserted apply some duck tape from the inside to restore airflow conditions like before. I realize that pedantry is almost unheard of on P

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Toine
I would cut the metal strips with a tin snip. something like: http://german-hand-tools.com/images/066R-15-250_offen.jpg Once the PCI card is inserted apply some duck tape from the inside to restore airflow conditions like before. On 27 July 2015 at 17:50, Mark C wrote: > Here's why I don't like

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Larry Colen
Mark C wrote: I have hung onto the working card so far, but I am a little concerned about the prospect of metal filings in the case. I don't know how usb connectors would fit in other cards in the same slot and not the one that works. If the hole is too small for the connectors on one card,

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread mike wilson
You could run a vacuum cleaner as you file. With a suitable tube extension to the locality, of course. On 28 July 2015 at 16:39, Mark C wrote: > I have hung onto the working card so far, but I am a little concerned about > the prospect of metal filings in the case. > > > On 7/27/2015 2:05 PM, mi

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread John
Check your local computer geek shop. They should have an over-priced SATA to Molex connector. On 7/27/2015 3:19 PM, Mark C wrote: Thanks, Igor. I looked at your recommendation but it has a molex power socket and I only have sata power plugs free in the case - I don't even see any molex cables i

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Mark C
I have hung onto the working card so far, but I am a little concerned about the prospect of metal filings in the case. On 7/27/2015 2:05 PM, mike wilson wrote: Card 2 and some file work (or a Dremel if you are feeling idle) would seem to be the answer. On 27 July 2015 at 16:50, Mark C wrote:

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-28 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:50:47 -0400 Mark C wrote: > >Card #2 - Tenex with NEC chipset. Seems to work fine! Detected by Windows, >driver is installed, Windows notifies me of the devices that could perform >faster... but is physically incompatible with my case (see the picture) > >http://www.markca

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread David Mann
Sorry to amuse myself at your expense but that photo is hilarious. Cheers, Dave On Jul 28, 2015, at 3:50 am, Mark C wrote: > Here's why I don't like messing with my PC. Trying to add a USB 3.0 card: > > Card #1 - Inateck with Fresco Chipset. Does not work - not detected by > Windows. Returned

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Mark C
Yeah - even the DVD is a SATA device. I am hopeful since the second card was recognized by the system when it was powered up. I guess I could always get some tin snips and "modify" the case to gain access to the USB ports on it... Mark On 7/27/2015 4:22 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Mark, ghm...

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Mark, ghm... I didn't think about that "catch", a PC power supply without any molex cables. But, it makes sense if you have only a few drives, and they are all SATA, and there are no CD/DVD-drives (and floppy-drives! ;-) ) And yes, you need the power for USB 3.0 that is not available from PCI

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Mark C
"Re-importing manufacturing jobs via Ikea" - never thought of that but very true. On 7/27/2015 1:50 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: As with all current consumer electronics, the customer is the quality assurance department. Just as manufacturing jobs are partially re-imported to North America every ti

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Igor. I looked at your recommendation but it has a molex power socket and I only have sata power plugs free in the case - I don't even see any molex cables in there at all. I picked the first card because of the sata power port, Inateck's good reputation, and also because it included a

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Mark C
Yep - downloaded the updated drivers (the CD had slightly older drivers on it) and also tried the generic drivers from Fresco. Inateck's support department was first rate - I emailed them on Saturday and they replied on Sunday afternoon. There were comments on Amazon from people who tried the

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread mike wilson
Card 2 and some file work (or a Dremel if you are feeling idle) would seem to be the answer. On 27 July 2015 at 16:50, Mark C wrote: > Here's why I don't like messing with my PC. Trying to add a USB 3.0 card: > > Card #1 - Inateck with Fresco Chipset. Does not work - not detected by > Windows. Re

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread P.J. Alling
As with all current consumer electronics, the customer is the quality assurance department. Just as manufacturing jobs are partially re-imported to North America every time you buy IKEA, (or similar), furniture. Your story reminds me of the MB I replaced recently that had three memory slots,

OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Hi Mark, Sorry to hear about your troubles. But why did you go for the more obscure cards and chipsets? I remember that I researched when I was buying, and Transcend card that I suggested had a good compatibility record, and worked for me even on WinXP: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/

Re: OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Mark C wrote: > Card #1 - Inateck with Fresco Chipset. Does not work - not detected by > Windows. Returned. I know it's too late... but did you download drivers? http://www.inateck.com/support/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/ma

OT - USB 3.0 PITA

2015-07-27 Thread Mark C
Here's why I don't like messing with my PC. Trying to add a USB 3.0 card: Card #1 - Inateck with Fresco Chipset. Does not work - not detected by Windows. Returned. Card #2 - Tenex with NEC chipset. Seems to work fine! Detected by Windows, driver is installed, Windows notifies me of the device