On 10/2/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
On the flip side you have any Chevy Camaro, Pontiac Trans Am most
recently the Dodge Viper.
Butt ugly doesn't begin to describe them :-)
I would readily have a Viper in my garage. But then again, I think a 1D
is a beautiful design, so what
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/09 Fri PM 04:54:05 GMT
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and automobile design
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As an American, I'm not sure you have
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/09 Fri PM 07:20:49 GMT
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John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:17:32PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Car design these days seems to mostly be german, japanese
or aussie.
Everybody else mostly seems to just restyle the stuff coming out
of
associated german, japanese or aussie design houses.
The French will be very unhappy to hear you say that.
Probably worth repeating then...
Adam Maas wrote:
Car design these days seems to mostly be german, japanese or aussie.
Everybody else mostly seems to just restyle the stuff coming out of
associated german, japanese or aussie design houses.
Aussie? I'm missing that for sure! What car is coming is any shape from
downunder?
On 10/2/07, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:
Aussie? I'm missing that for sure! What car is coming is any shape from
downunder?
I'm sure there's at least one that's Holden the fort...
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On 2/10/07, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Maas wrote:
Car design these days seems to mostly be german, japanese or aussie.
Everybody else mostly seems to just restyle the stuff coming out of
associated german, japanese or aussie design houses.
Aussie? I'm missing that for
Cotty,
I would readily have a Viper in my garage. But then again, I think a 1D
is a beautiful design, so what do I know
1D: I'd agree only if it was about half of its' present size. Otherwise
it's a beautiful behemoth. ;-)
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On 10/2/07, Peter Lacus, discombobulated, unleashed:
1D: I'd agree only if it was about half of its' present size. Otherwise
it's a beautiful behemoth. ;-)
Heretic!
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mike wilson wrote:
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Date: 2007/02/09 Fri PM 07:20:49 GMT
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John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:17:32PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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As an American, I'm not sure you
The recent Pontiac GTO was a Holden Monaro...
And we all know how well that version of the GTO went over !
Kenneth Waller
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Aussie car? (was: PESO: Made in England)
On 2/10/07, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED
On 11/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever their other parameters, French cars (at least from the big three)
are certainly visually distinctive.
They have an abundance of ugly sticks.
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From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/10 Sat PM 03:31:05 GMT
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mike wilson wrote:
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Date: 2007/02/09 Fri PM 07:20:49 GMT
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From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/10 Sat PM 08:43:17 GMT
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Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On 11/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever their other parameters, French cars (at least from the big three
Whatever their other parameters, French cars (at least
from the big three) are certainly visually distinctive.
They have an abundance of ugly sticks.
I was going to add The French have a word for it - hideous
but I chickened out.
degeuelasse is probably the word you're
In the eighties I wrote an advice column for auto mechanics. Every
month I would deal with two or three service problems sent in by
mechanics. The column was in a magazine called Motor that was
distributed to service facilities and much of the auto industry
support. Car owners would
Paul Stenquist wrote:
In the eighties I wrote an advice column for auto mechanics.
Dear Steady?
;-)
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Nope. It was called Troubleshooter. And it was headed with a line
art drawing of me. I'll have to scan it one of these days. Then
again, maybe not:-).
Paul
On Feb 10, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
In the eighties I wrote an advice column for auto mechanics.
of the GTO went over !
Kenneth Waller
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Aussie car? (was: PESO: Made in England)
On 2/10/07, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Maas wrote:
Car design these days seems to mostly be german, japanese
Isn't that what you paid for the 31 mm AL Limiteds?
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It was still a nice car. I'd love to own a Monaro, but at about
AU$70k
it was never going to happen (and it's
Har! Not quite.
BTW, I dug out my receipt for the silver one I bought in 2004 as I
couldn't remember how much I paid for it. The new one was $380
cheaper.
Maybe I didn't forget but blotted it from my memory.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/11/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't that what
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On 8/2/07, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, unleashed:
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
Moggie Minor!
AKA Jellymould
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/09 Fri AM 03:00:17 GMT
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and the hypothesis that all of them were painted lilac.
That's just sick, (and I don't mean in a good way).
As an American, I'm
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste and
automobile design.
But we still make them. You Brits apparently can't.
Paul
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On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and automobile design.
Now just one damn minute captain (Data, Star Trek TNG).
72 Dodge Charger.Mustang Mach 1T-Birds various...
Beauty is in the eye of the
On 9/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding
taste and
automobile design.
But we still make them. You Brits apparently can't.
Paul
Ouch!
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HAR! That was just too easy:-)
Paul
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding
taste and
automobile design.
But
Peter, for some reason I am thinking about Fab Four. Probably the most
well known British notion.
Boris
Peter Lacus wrote:
Hello!
yesterday I finished my first roll of Transcend SD. ;-) It did
accomodate 378 .PEF + 2 .jpg pictures during almost 3 weeks of shooting.
This is my
And don't forget my Belair Convertible :-)
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2438913size=lg
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:17:32PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and
automobile design.
But we still
On 9/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
And don't forget my Belair Convertible :-)
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2438913size=lg
Beeeautiful.
Bit of a girlie colour though - save it for Grace ;-)
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On 9/2/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
But for a far smaller market the Brits can offer
the MINI, several Loti, Aston Martin, and even Bentley/Rolls Royce.
Don't forget Land Rover :-)
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It's not their fault exactly, they were stuck with Lucas Electrics...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste and
automobile design.
John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:17:32PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and
automobile design.
But we still
It is a girlie color. I had to throw a few bones to my wife, so she'd let me
buy it:-). Dinah Shore had one just like it. I like to think this might have
been hers. The history goes back only one owner as it was a basket case
restoration. But it is all original, right down to the coral and
-- Original message --
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Car design these days seems to mostly be german, japanese or aussie.
Everybody else mostly seems to just restyle the stuff coming out of
associated german, japanese or aussie design houses.
Of course
Actually I like minors, but the color gives me nightmares
mike wilson wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/09 Fri AM 03:00:17 GMT
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and the hypothesis that all of them were painted
On 2/9/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and automobile design.
Now just one damn minute captain (Data, Star Trek TNG).
72 Dodge Charger.Mustang Mach
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From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On 2/9/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and automobile design
P. J. Alling wrote:
Actually I like minors
You dirty old man, you!
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litre family sedan, and immensely
enjoyed driving it. Basic, but powerful and could go so fast!
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 02:20:49PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote:
The Mini is a BMW . . .
Wrong. As I said, it's backed by foreign money, but
the Mini is a British design, British built.
[Although I will admit that the number plate surround
on our MINI does read My other car is a real BMW]
. .
John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 02:20:49PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote:
The Mini is a BMW . . .
Wrong. As I said, it's backed by foreign money, but
the Mini is a British design, British built.
It's built by BMW and designed by BMW. Just by them in England. MINI is
just a BMW
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Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
Of course some of the Japanese design houses are in Southern California.
The only thing Japanese about my Titan is the name on it. It is 100%
American designed and built.
It does seem to be a cut above
On 9/2/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
As I said, it's backed by foreign money, but
the Mini is a British design, British built.
Sure is - I've filmed in the factory a few times. Them's Oxfordshire
lads (and lasses) in there!
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On 9/2/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's built by BMW and designed by BMW. Just by them in England. MINI is
just a BMW nameplate and BMW builds and designs in many places
(including the US).
That's a computer talking. The people building the mini are mostly
recruited and live
Cotty wrote:
On 9/2/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's built by BMW and designed by BMW. Just by them in England. MINI is
just a BMW nameplate and BMW builds and designs in many places
(including the US).
That's a computer talking. The people building the mini are mostly
Adam Maas wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 9/2/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's built by BMW and designed by BMW. Just by them in England. MINI is
just a BMW nameplate and BMW builds and designs in many places
(including the US).
That's a computer talking. The people building the
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 07:14:10PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 9/2/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's built by BMW and designed by BMW. Just by them in England. MINI is
just a BMW nameplate and BMW builds and designs in many places
(including the US).
Not just shipping costs, domestic content requirements, (for the US
Mexico and Canada), and labor costs, (non union labor is much less
expensive in the US than it is in Europe. Do you guys even have non
union labor?
John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 07:14:10PM -0500, Adam Maas
On 2/10/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any say whatsoever regarding taste
and automobile design.
Now just one damn minute captain (Data, Star Trek TNG).
72 Dodge Charger.Mustang Mach
There is no domestic content requirement for cars sold in the U.S.
Plenty of cars with no domestic content are sold here.
paul
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Not just shipping costs, domestic content requirements, (for the US
Mexico and Canada), and labor costs, (non union
I don't think of Viper as ugly. More retro. And six hundred
horsepower makes up for a lot of sins.
Paul
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:17 PM, David Savage wrote:
On 2/10/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
As an American, I'm not sure you have any
There is for import duties (Canada is excepted under the Auto Pact).
-Adam
Paul Stenquist wrote:
There is no domestic content requirement for cars sold in the U.S.
Plenty of cars with no domestic content are sold here.
paul
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Not just
I do :-)
Dave
On 2/10/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think of Viper as ugly. More retro. And six hundred
horsepower makes up for a lot of sins.
Paul
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:17 PM, David Savage wrote:
On 2/10/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/07, mike wilson,
No but there is in Mexico, and maybe, though I'm not sure Canada, which
is side stepped by the NAFTA agreements. So you can build a German car
in the USA and sell it in Mexico bypassing their domestic content laws...
Paul Stenquist wrote:
There is no domestic content requirement for cars sold
On Feb 9, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Cotty wrote:
On 9/2/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's built by BMW and designed by BMW. Just by them in England.
MINI is
just a BMW nameplate and BMW builds and designs in many places
(including the US).
That's a computer talking. The people
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
No but there is in Mexico, and maybe, though I'm not sure Canada, which
is side stepped by the NAFTA agreements. So you can build a German car
in the USA and sell it in Mexico bypassing their domestic
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:07, Peter Lacus wrote:
Hello!
yesterday I finished my first roll of Transcend SD. ;-) It did
accomodate 378 .PEF + 2 .jpg pictures during almost 3 weeks of shooting.
This is my favorite picture from the whole lot (~300kB):
Nice pic of a nice car. It could benefit from a bit of sharpening. In general,
RAW files straigtht from the camera require some sharpening to achieve optimum
image quality. It's not an admission of fault. It's part of the process.
Paul
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Most definitely.
Eric.
On 08/02/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:07, Peter Lacus wrote:
Hello!
yesterday I finished my first roll of Transcend SD. ;-) It did
accomodate 378 .PEF + 2 .jpg pictures during almost 3
Hi Frits,
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor
This picture embodies England for me - beautiful classic craftwork
parked on the wrong side of the street ;-) in front of a bare brick wall...
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Paul,
Nice pic of a nice car. It could benefit from a bit of sharpening. In
general, RAW files straigtht from the camera require some sharpening
to achieve optimum image quality. It's not an admission of fault.
It's part of the process.
thanks for looking. For me it's sharp enough as is.
On Thursday 08 February 2007 22:12, Peter Lacus wrote:
Hi Frits,
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor
This picture embodies England for me - beautiful classic craftwork
parked on the wrong side of the street ;-) in front of a bare brick wall...
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:58:59PM +0100, Frits W?thrich wrote:
On Thursday 08 February 2007 22:12, Peter Lacus wrote:
Hi Frits,
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor
This picture embodies England for me - beautiful classic craftwork
parked
When I lived in Wimbledon (South London for those who don't know it) in the
1960's, there was a pink Morris Minor lived in a nearby street that had a
badge reading Minor 100 instead of the usual Minor 1000 on the boot
lid. Don't know whether it was the genuine 1,000,000th Minor or not, but
On 8/2/07, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, unleashed:
Wat is that, a Morris Minor?
Moggie Minor!
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On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:39:26AM +1000, John Coyle wrote:
When I lived in Wimbledon (South London for those who don't know it) in the
1960's, there was a pink Morris Minor lived in a nearby street that had a
badge reading Minor 100 instead of the usual Minor 1000 on the boot
lid.
Thanks John - I always wondered whether it was truly the 1,000,000th!
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On Fri
AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:39:26AM +1000, John Coyle wrote:
When I lived in Wimbledon (South London for those who don't know it) in
the
1960's, there was a pink Morris Minor lived in a nearby street that had a
badge reading Minor 100 instead
, Australia
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:39:26AM +1000, John Coyle wrote:
When I lived in Wimbledon
: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Made in England
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:39:26AM +1000, John Coyle wrote:
When I lived in Wimbledon (South London for those who don't know it)
in
the
1960's, there was a pink Morris Minor lived in a nearby street that
had
Hello!
yesterday I finished my first roll of Transcend SD. ;-) It did
accomodate 378 .PEF + 2 .jpg pictures during almost 3 weeks of shooting.
This is my favorite picture from the whole lot (~300kB):
http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo?authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028926238703324690
or if
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