MARK!
2012/2/6 Steven Desjardins :
> The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
> hearts of the PDML to toast.
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
>> impressive.
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2012 4:
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> William Robb
>
> On 05/02/2012 6:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> > The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
> > hearts of the PDML to toast.
> >
> Toast is, at least, universally in good taste.
>
On 05/02/2012 6:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
Toast is, at least, universally in good taste.
That put it a huge leg up over the K-01
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On 2/5/2012 6:44 PM, John Francis wrote:
To drag this thread vaguely back on topic, and to provide at least
a modicum of support for my claims of some knowledge in this area,
I offer this photograph (albeit using the Olympus, not a Pentax:
http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Marmalade.jpg
Here'
To drag this thread vaguely back on topic, and to provide at least
a modicum of support for my claims of some knowledge in this area,
I offer this photograph (albeit using the Olympus, not a Pentax:
http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Marmalade.jpg
[As you may surmise, I *do* like marmalade. But I'd
On 4 February 2012 04:11, steve harley wrote:
>
> i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
> designed to fail after a few years; almost all the ones built to last are
> 40-50 years old; someone gave me a KitchenAid toaster with a pretty flexible
> functional design, so
Another successful campaign by the Toast Marketing Board!
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:41:04PM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
> hearts of the PDML to toast.
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The hands down best is the kumquat stuff my mum makes.
On 6 February 2012 08:07, John Francis wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
>> >
>> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
>
> Hardly.
>
> It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, le
The ultimate disrespect for the K-01: it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
> impressive.
>
>
> On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 05,
The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
impressive.
On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
Hardly.
It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Sh
Amazon has both Duerr's and Elki's orange marmalade.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
>>>
>> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
>
> Hardly.
>
> It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, l
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
> >
> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
Hardly.
It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
the American publc by the likes of Smuckers
For the English, caramelized bread, is like snow to the Eskimos.
On 2/5/2012 2:28 PM, Bob W wrote:
I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
Very American. You'
Oh Bob!
Thanks; you made my day :)
Bulent
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2012/2/5 Bob W :
>>
>> I once wrote an
>
> I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
> ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
>
Very American. You're pretty much all wrong about toast. Here's the way it's
done in the civilised world.
When
On 05/02/2012 18:27, Bob W wrote:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
just
fine. It's
I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob W wrote:
>> i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
>> r
> i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
> rest
> >>> designed
> to fail after a few years; ...
> >>
> >> Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
> >> bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
> just
> >> fine. It's
On 05/02/2012 09:03, Bob W wrote:
On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed
to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bo
> > On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
> > designed
> >>to fail after a few years; ...
>
> Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
> bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 fo
Sigh. They just don't make cheap pieces of tin crap like they used to.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:24 PM, steve harley wrote:
> on 2012-02-03 17:02 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Charles Robinson
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great camera, but I still feel like I'm just millimet
on 2012-02-03 17:02 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
Great camera, but I still feel like I'm just millimeters away from throwing it
to the ground when I hold it up to take a photo. Slippery little devil!
You need a decent case. I found a very sl
> On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
> designed
>>to fail after a few years; ...
Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still wor
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> This sentence sits perfectly in the youtube link that Godfrey posted in
>> another thread:
>> http://youtu.be/4a-dR2V1-0Y
>
> Perfect observation!
I thought so too. ;-)
> Here's a silly thought... Rather than mounting the LCD based on the SL
On 3/2/12, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
>i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
designed
>to fail after a few years; almost all the ones built to last are 40-50 years
>old; someone gave me a KitchenAid toaster with a pretty flexible functional
>design, so
On Feb 4, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Bob W wrote:
>> But for my
>> personal ergonomics and the kind of photography I'm interested in, the
>> lack of an eye-level viewfinder makes it unusable.
>
> This sentence sits perfectly in the youtube link that Godfrey posted in
> another thread:
> http://youtu.be/4
ssage-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> John Sessoms
> Sent: 04 February 2012 13:21
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
>
> From: Matthew Hunt
>
> >> I think the main issue for most is that we were hoping f
On 4 February 2012 08:00, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
> From the looks of the camera I'd say he designs Japanese robots..
>
Pentax had already designed its own robots more than two years ago.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1255722321.html
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NPICS1/K-X_KOREJANAI_3
From: Matthew Hunt
I think the main issue for most is that we were hoping for something
perceptibly above a K-5, i.e., a new flagship, or barring that, a
mirror-less body that still had some significant compelling features
above a K-5. That does not seem to have happened.
It is widely rumored
On 01/02/2012 17:35, Darren Addy wrote:
This is clearly NOT the K-01. It has a viewfinder/prism.
Not a Mark! but as gut-wrenching a pair of sentences as you could
possibly read - related to photography, anyway.
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On 03/02/2012 3:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 2/3/2012 3:04 PM, Tom C wrote:
I think it's OK to be the cynic here. They put the designer's signature
on the product. When was the last time a camera manufacturer did that?
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To have any real significance (as opposed to importance)
On 2012-02-03 22:48, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
It really rubs me the wrong way when someone so obviously goes out of their way
to included in Mark's 2012 quotation list.
It was more in the vein of a sigh of relief. I haven't been able to
read even 20% of the PDML traffic for quite a wh
s
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On 2012-02-03 16:57, Charles Robinson wrote:
The best thing about the K-01, to me, is that it's so uninteresting that
I can delete PDML traff
On 2012-02-03 16:57, Charles Robinson wrote:
The best thing about the K-01, to me, is that it's so uninteresting that
I can delete PDML traffic wholesale and actually read the little that
remains.
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 15:12, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> I have never owned a cell phone camera (although I'll buy an iPhone 4S
>> sometime later this year, because it has a good camera and that nice,
>> big, sharp LCD to focus and frame wit
Quoting William Robb :
On 03/02/2012 9:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Pentax may have made a really good choice here. Or maybe not - time
will tell. But they probably didn't have the financial resources to do
anything else.
Yeah, a viewfinder was beyond them. Really, that's all this thing is
Quoting Mark Roberts :
William Robb wrote:
On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
"Hello Kitty" crowd to DSLRs.
The Kx/Kr were designed by camera
On Feb 3, 2012, at 15:12, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> I have never owned a cell phone camera (although I'll buy an iPhone 4S
> sometime later this year, because it has a good camera and that nice,
> big, sharp LCD to focus and frame with...).
Great camera, but I still feel like I'm just millimete
on 2012-02-03 12:38 Larry Colen wrote
Are the ergonomics not a lot closer to those of a cell phone camera, or a low
end point and shoot?
to me, it doesn't seem that they are; the controls are a little unsubtle, and
we fear they'll lack a refined feel, but the configurable buttons and the
numb
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Mark Roberts
wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>>> This is a camera designed for people who are used to taking photos with
>>> cell phones.
>>
>>That statement says more about your bias, Larry, than it does about
>>the camera or its intended audience.
>
> I don't
r
> me.
>
> Obviously aimed at a different group of users than most of the people on
> this list.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen"
>
> Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
>
&g
On 2/3/2012 3:04 PM, Tom C wrote:
I think it's OK to be the cynic here. They put the designer's signature
on the product. When was the last time a camera manufacturer did that?
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To have any real significance (as opposed to importance) one must
recognize the name of the designer.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> This is a camera designed for people who are used to taking photos with cell
>> phones.
>
>That statement says more about your bias, Larry, than it does about
>the camera or its intended audience.
I don't understand that statement, Godfrey. I think Larry's exactly
righ
>
> And they aren't going to like it because it doesn't make phone calls,
> play MP3's or have all sorts of cool apps.
>
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> I think it's OK to be the cynic here. They put the designer's signature
> on the product. When was the last time a camera manufacturer did that?
>
> --
>
> William Robb
To have any real significance (as opposed to importance) one must
recognize the name of the designer. If it had said Bertone or
list.
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From: "Larry Colen"
Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 2/2/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I just watched a small por
On 2/3/2012 10:57 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
I just don't see the point of the K-01. I mean, how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? With a
DSLR you brace the camera against your hand/head with
Bill,
I think you've found the magic bullet for Pentax Marketing!
A Pentax camera that's also a phone and that runs Apps on it's LCD.
'There's nothing like playing Angry Birds on my Pentax,
and you can make calls and take pictures too!'
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM, William Robb
On 03/02/2012 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
This is a camera designed for people who are used to taking photos with cell
phones.
With the DA40, it should be fine. Anything much longer than that,
you'll need to
use a monopod or a tripod.
And they aren't going to like it because it doe
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I just don't see the point of the K-01. I mean, how the hell are you
>> supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses? With a
>> DSLR you brace the camera against your hand/head with the other had
>> holding the lens and elb
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Cotty wrote:
> On 2/2/12, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the
>> K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera
>> before. At that point, I decided that my initial
on 2012-02-03 01:40 Bong Manayon wrote
Funny you should mention a toaster, I happen to need one. And yeah, a
toaster is a toaster is a toaster--so long they work there is nothing
really that compels me to any particular brand or model but as long it
is not ridiculously priced because it happene
steve harley wrote:
>on 2012-02-03 07:45 Mark Roberts wrote
>
>> There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
>> the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
>
>i dream of a world with lots of design and no "target markets"
Yep. That's a dream all right.
;-)
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on 2012-02-03 08:44 Mark Roberts wrote
I don't think that's important to the target audience for the K-01,
which is basically young iPhone owners
i think the goofytronic design is more aimed at the android owners
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On 03/02/2012 10:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
I'm not in the target demographic but it'll be interesting to see if
they like the looks of it. (I could be really cynical here and suggest
that simply having a "designer" associated with the product is as
important to these prospective buyers as w
on 2012-02-03 07:45 Mark Roberts wrote
There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
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William Robb wrote:
>On 03/02/2012 9:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Pentax may have made a really good choice here. Or maybe not - time
>> will tell. But they probably didn't have the financial resources to do
>> anything else.
>
>Yeah, a viewfinder was beyond them. Really, that's all this thing
On 03/02/2012 9:44 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Pentax may have made a really good choice here. Or maybe not - time
will tell. But they probably didn't have the financial resources to do
anything else.
Yeah, a viewfinder was beyond them. Really, that's all this thing is
missing.
That and look
William Robb wrote:
>On 03/02/2012 8:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
>> the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
>>
>Sadly though, take the cutesy signature off the bottom plate and you are
>left with a mirrorless camera that
Pentax sold a bunch of Kx's in Japan by making them in wild colors and
blister packs. Oly made a bunch of money with their retro designs and
admitted that the new e-PM1 was aimed at women who wanted a
fashionable camera. Given the that ultimate goal of Ricoh-Pentax is
to make money not cameras, w
On 03/02/2012 8:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
There's no *need* to change that: It's perfect for the market segment
the K-01 is targeted at (which ain't us).
Sadly though, take the cutesy signature off the bottom plate and you are
left with a mirrorless camera that mounts nothing but K-mount len
That may be true. However even cameras not aimed at us should be an
interesting option. Hell most pros from the film era didn't use a one
of the "professional" 35mm cameras, and even the lowliest member of a
systems line could be used as a second body. I don't see this being a
viable backup to a
On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> William Robb wrote:
>
>> On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
>>
>>> So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
>>> market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
>>> "Hello Kitty" crowd to
William Robb wrote:
>On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
>
>> So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
>> market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
>> "Hello Kitty" crowd to DSLRs.
>>
>The Kx/Kr were designed by camera designers, no a
On 03/02/2012 2:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
So the design people are excited about it, maybe they are the intended
market--not us, in the same way the multi-colored K-x/K-r opened the
"Hello Kitty" crowd to DSLRs.
The Kx/Kr were designed by camera designers, no amount of marketing hype
could
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
>
> My, never has a Pentax generated such varied reactions.
In my books, this is a good thing. We can only hope that at least some
of the reaction and talk is happening in the general population.
K-01 specifics aside, Pentax is gaining more min
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Tom C wrote:
> I think the main issue for most is that we were hoping for something
> perceptibly above a K-5, i.e., a new flagship, or barring that, a
> mirror-less body that still had some significant compelling features
> above a K-5. That does not seem to have
B&H has it for pre-order. Good product images and specs for those interested.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Underpaid N. Overpentaxed
wrote:
> Mark!
>
> 2012/2/3 Steven Desjardins :
>> Look, Stan, if you're just going to be reasonable I'm going to have to
>> go over to the Pentax Forums for en
Mark!
2012/2/3 Steven Desjardins :
> Look, Stan, if you're just going to be reasonable I'm going to have to
> go over to the Pentax Forums for entertainment.
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:18 AM, William Robb
wrote:
>
> I suspect that it as far as industrial design students go, it could be a
> toaster and it would get attention because of who designed it.
>
My, never has a Pentax generated such varied reactions.
Funny you should mention a toaster, I happen
On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:18 PM, William Robb wrote:
> I suspect that it as far as industrial design students go, it could be a
> toaster and it would get attention because of who designed it.
Designer toasters have already been done.
http://www.bugatticoffeemachines.com/store/bugatti-toasters
On t
on 2012-02-02 20:55 Paul Stenquist wrote
I believe it's the same sensor but a different processing engine.
i'm mostly content to wait until people actually shoot with it to see whether
it's "better"; but as to whether the sensor is different, i see many casual
comments that assume it's the sa
That was my sense as well Paul. In any case, it reminds me of the K-X which was
clearly a lower-niche product but did some things (high ISO w/ low noise)
better than its then-current more expensive big brother. The K-01 is a
lower-niche product which apparently incorporates some software/firmwar
I believe it's the same sensor but a different processing engine. \
Paul
On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:32 PM, steve harley wrote:
> on 2012-02-02 19:49 Stan Halpin wrote
>> Good news: it is clearly a variation on the K-5,
>
> it has 16 Mp like the K-5, but from at least one source, it is not the same
>
on 2012-02-02 19:49 Stan Halpin wrote
Good news: it is clearly a variation on the K-5,
it has 16 Mp like the K-5, but from at least one source, it is not the same
sensor, and it's a different (new? upgraded?) processing engine; i assume that
is why it is said to outperform the K-5; we shall s
That explains the quality of some of your photos then...
;-)
cheers,
frank
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On 2/2/2012 6:49 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
Size: I don't really care if it fits in my pocket. I have never taken any
pictures with a camera in my pocket - I find it much better to have the camera
in hand without all of the clothing in the way.
Of course not. It works a lot better with the cam
MARK!!!
cheers,
frank
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
I don't rea
Look, Stan, if you're just going to be reasonable I'm going to have to
go over to the Pentax Forums for entertainment.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> This is true, larry, but these complaints typically come from
>>
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> This is true, larry, but these complaints typically come from
> different people. Most of the PDMLers are just fine with the K5, and
> OK with the Kr. The 645D is REALLY expensive, and the Q is a bit
> nichey for the price.
>
> This camera
This is true, larry, but these complaints typically come from
different people. Most of the PDMLers are just fine with the K5, and
OK with the Kr. The 645D is REALLY expensive, and the Q is a bit
nichey for the price.
This camera directly competes with the NEX 5N, which is about $700
with a kit
On 02/02/2012 7:12 PM, Bong Manayon wrote:
Interesting to note that in the school I teach, it gets more attention
from the industrial design students than the photography majors.
I suspect that it as far as industrial design students go, it could be a
toaster and it would get attention bec
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>>True enough. But since the 60-250 is my most used lens, the fact that it will
>>undoubtedly be awkward with that lens is reason enough to make it a
>>non-starter for me. That's not to say it's a bad camera. It should p
Have a great day, Bill.
Cheers,
frank
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
I was sure that Knarf was offsetting me with his suckin
Quoting Mark Roberts :
Paul Stenquist wrote:
True enough. But since the 60-250 is my most used lens, the fact
that it will
undoubtedly be awkward with that lens is reason enough to make it a
non-starter for me. That's not to say it's a bad camera. It should prove to
be a good choice for some
From: William Robb
On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President too...
Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).
Be glad you don't live somewhere like Russia or France where they have both.
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PDML Pentax-Di
On 02/02/2012 5:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
All they
need is a shoe mount optical viewfinder and a lot of the objections to
the K-01 go away, or are greatly alleviated.
No reason why the Q-Finder can't go on. They already have the 31mm more
or less covered. As much as I detest electronic fin
On 2/2/2012 3:06 PM, Tom C wrote:
I understand the point you're making and in generally agree, BUT,
would you rather have a bunch of fanboys who worship Pentax and
therefore think they can do no wrong? I can buy a lot of 8" crescent
wrenches or other hand tools for the price of a K-01, K-5, y
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> We've all been looking it this backwards: The K-01 isn't a camera for
> all of us who already own Pentax lenses, it's a camera for newcomers
> to buy so they'll start acquiring Pentax lenses.
It's a gateway drug. Nice. Hope it works.
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-bm
On 2/2/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> You're taking a trip, and
>you want to have a spare body, but space is pretty limited. Besides, the
>K-5 is just a little too big to conveniently fit in a jacket pocket, or
>a fannypack, when you're walking around a strange city and don't want
> >imo it's very rare that a so-called designer ever produces anything
> other
> >than hideous crap. There are few exceptions - the Porsche-designed
> Contax
> >RTS being what. What they do is not design, but styling. Since form
> follows
> >function it requires a real designer to design the camera
>
> It seems that most everyone that complains about some feature or other
> are looking at the camera bodies and complaining that they don't do
> everything, rather than there are situations where a particular body
> works better than other ones.
>
> I like the Q, but the sensor is too small, and
On 2/2/2012 2:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
All the bitching about this camera that we're seeing here, on DP
Review and Pentax Forums is irrelevant because this camera is aimed at
people who, by definition, aren't in these discussions. This doesn't
mean the camera will be a success, but it sure
Paul Stenquist wrote:
>True enough. But since the 60-250 is my most used lens, the fact that it will
>undoubtedly be awkward with that lens is reason enough to make it a
>non-starter for me. That's not to say it's a bad camera. It should prove to
>be a good choice for some folks.
The target au
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>
> On 2/2/2012 1:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> Cotty wrote:
>>>
how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses?
>>>
>>> There's this
://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: "Steven Desjardins"
Subject: Re: K-01 is here...
Composing on the rear screen is just dandy with a tripod or monopod.
I use a monopod at the races and it works fine. Handholding a big
lens without an eye-level VF is just nut
On 2/2/2012 1:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
how the hell are you
supposed to use it with anything longer than (say) 150mm lenses?
There's this thing called a "tripod".
:-P
I see the grin, but to address this in practical term
Quoting "P. J. Alling" :
If I had a stable of DA Limiteds or old primes, I'd be pretty
interested (pending price and specs). But all of my lenses are on the
larger size, and I don't have an overwhelming urge to get a smaller
camera body for the DA* 300/4.
Maybe it would interest me for that re
On 2/1/2012 6:45 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
I've been afraid to chime in lest I be the lone philistine in the group (as
though my photography hadn't long ago pegged me as such), but I agree. It's
not so bad to my eye. I would happily carry it ri
On 2/1/2012 6:26 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
I think it looks fine, but what do i know... I like the looks of my volvo 240.
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