On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:58:14 +0100, mike wilson wrote:
>> At one point I heard loud splashing and dad showed up with this:
>>
>> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
>
>Perca fluviatilis
Thanks for the determination Mike, that certainly looks like the one.
It s even better visible
Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Spent some time today shooting a grebe familty.
> Dad, Mom and three kids :-)
>
> At one point I heard loud splashing and dad showed up with this:
>
> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
>
> It was fed to the hungriest of the three kids,
> that had quite a
Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Spent some time today shooting a grebe familty.
> Dad, Mom and three kids :-)
>
> At one point I heard loud splashing and dad showed up with this:
>
> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
>
> It was fed to the hungriest of the three kids,
> that had quite a
In a message dated 3/27/2007 12:43:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Spent some time today shooting a grebe familty.
Dad, Mom and three kids :-)
At one point I heard loud splashing and dad showed up with this:
http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
It was fed to
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:10:48 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>Cool shot, nonetheless.
JvW>http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
Thanks Bruce.
I have a Manfrotto 393 bracket on order (the poor mans wimberley :-)
Will try again later this week using that, and the A* 300mm f/2.8 + 1.7x
co
Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Spent some time today shooting a grebe familty.
> Dad, Mom and three kids :-)
>
> At one point I heard loud splashing and dad showed up with this:
>
> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
>
> It was fed to the hungriest of the three kids,
> that had quite a
Cool shot, nonetheless.
--
Bruce
Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 12:43:06 PM, you wrote:
JvW> Spent some time today shooting a grebe familty.
JvW> Dad, Mom and three kids :-)
JvW> At one point I heard loud splashing and dad showed up with this:
JvW>http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=213
On 10/8/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something to cheer Frank up in his hour of misfortune 8-)
>
>
just catching up on this one now. oct 7 was my birthday. bruce was
that a birthday present just for me?
despite the subjects, it's a well composed, well taken photo.
-frank
Ask Frank.
Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
This pair of rats thought they were being so sneaky. I didn't have to
wait too long.
Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 AF, handheld
ISO 800, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1813.htm
May
Hi!
This pair of rats thought they were being so sneaky. I didn't have to
wait too long.
Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 AF, handheld
ISO 800, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1813.htm
May I ask you - why "rats"?
Thanks.
Bor
Bruce Dayton wrote:
This pair of rats thought they were being so sneaky. I didn't have to
wait too long.
Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 AF, handheld
ISO 800, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1813.htm
Comments welcome
Somethi
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
i thought they were gonna be real rats ... very disappointed ;-))
+1
CW
i thought they were gonna be real rats ... very disappointed ;-))
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Bruce Dayton a!
>
> This pair of rats thought they were being so sneaky. I didn't have to
> wait too long.
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1813.htm
- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton"
Subject: PESO - Gotcha!
This pair of rats thought they were being so sneaky. I didn't have to
wait too long.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1813.htm
You only thought they were being sneaky.
They work on the "walk softly and carry
I have read some of the comments on this photo Jostein, and i won't go
there,but i think
this is a
great photo.
Speaks volumns.
Dave
> Not a shooting style I'm familiar
with.
> Any and all comments are most welcome.
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault"
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:55 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Words of wisdom, considering who is controlling the media these days.
Problem with a statemen
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:55 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Words of wisdom, considering who is controlling the media these days.
>
Problem with a statement like that, is that every special interest
group or faction thinks that the media is being controlled by "the
enemy".
- Original Message -
From: "Graywolf"
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
And, my personal advice is quit letting the media tell you how to run your
lives.
Words of wisdom, considering who is controlling the media these days.
William Robb
Graywolf wrote:
I did, however, consensus is just general agreement, not absolute rule.
My comment was both humorous and gentle, and I apologised right there.
It also mentions in the FAQ that it was often violated, but that most of
us have the sense to shut up when someone goes off the deep end.
On Mar 23, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Graywolf wrote:
It seems that many of us are so sensitive to perceived insults, and
weaknesses these days. Let's relax, no one says you have to read a
thread you object to. Skip it and go to the next. And, my personal
advice is quit letting the media tell you how to
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:39:20 -0500, Graywolf wrote:
> It seems that many of us are so sensitive to perceived insults, and
> weaknesses these days. Let's relax, no one says you have to read a
> thread you object to. Skip it and go to the next. And, my personal
> advice is quit letting the media tel
I did, however, consensus is just general agreement, not absolute rule. My comment was both humorous and gentle, and I apologised right there.
It also mentions in the FAQ that it was often violated, but that most of us
have the sense to shut up when someone goes off the deep end. My personal
op
Doug Franklin wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:15:55 +, mike wilson wrote:
This is *not* the place for political discussion.
Not guilty. I'm happy to discuss anything, anywhere, until consensus is
to stop.
The consensus around here for several years has been keep religion and
politics off the
>
> From: arnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi guys,
>
> As a religious jew, and being this picture is of religious jews, I'd like to
> point out something. I'm not sure when this picture was taken, but if it was
> taken recently the mostly likely explanation for the gun is simple. This
> friday (
only time that you will see religious jewish
children playing with guns in the street.
Of course, if the picture was take in September, then my experience is
wrong.
arnie
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: PESO:
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> dato: 2005/03/22 ti AM 01:15:13 CET
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> emne: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
>
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:36:46 -0600, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Frank,
> >
> > In the 50's, all of
Hi William
this website is *extremely* well made, have a look at the demo and how you
can expand photos.
Says nothing about the content, I did *not* read anything
greetings
Markus
>>>http://www.canada.com/regina/leaderpost/subscribe/leaderpost_howt
>>osubscribe.html
>>
>>
>>
>>William Robb
>>
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:15:55 +, mike wilson wrote:
> >> This is *not* the place for political discussion.
>
> Not guilty. I'm happy to discuss anything, anywhere, until consensus is
> to stop.
The consensus around here for several years has been keep religion and
politics off the list. It
I knew that comment would wake somebody up. :-)
On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Cotty wrote:
On 22/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
Children will be children
You rang ?
:-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> >
> > (Before leaving it, a point of correction: GWB isn't a Jr.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Are we talking family history or mental ability?
>
> William Robb
We're talking what the ma
On 22/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
>Children will be children
You rang ?
:-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
Children will be children.
http://www.canada.com/regina/leaderpost/subscribe/leaderpost_howtosubscribe.html
William Robb
Children will be children.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
>
>
>
> >
> > The consensus here has long been to avoid political disucussions in
> > general and
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
The consensus here has long been to avoid political disucussions in
general and cheap shots in particular. They almost always end in flame
wars.
Cheap shots are too much fun.
Don&
iam Robb wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "John Francis"
> > Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 09:47:21PM +, mike wilson wrote:
> >>
> >> [purely political posturi
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Before leaving it, a point of correction: GWB isn't a Jr.)
Are we talking family history or mental ability?
William Robb
Watch it, William. You'll get savaged by the Allingator.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "John Francis"
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 09:47:21PM +, mike wilson wrote:
[purely political posturing]
This is *not* the place for political discussion.
Not guilty. I'm
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Before leaving it, a point of correction: GWB isn't a Jr.)
Are we talking family history or mental ability?
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault"
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
The word "terrorist" hadn't entered the popular lexicon.
They were called freedom fighters back then. They only became terrorists
when they changed sides.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "John Francis"
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 09:47:21PM +, mike wilson wrote:
[purely political posturing]
This is *not* the place for political discussion.
Yup, must keep things properly compartmenta
On 22/3/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I'm
>argumentative by nature.
No say it's not true!
Cheers,
Cotty
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I wrote off list to this bozo but I was not particularly threatening.
If he took it that way, I will wash my hands of him. If he would like I
will post my off list message, with one small excision. It was off list
because I used a four letter word to get his attention. I will also
post my fo
Scott Loveless wrote:
Neither was Cassius Clay, but we don't bitch about him. This is
rather politcally charged, don't you think?
To which Frank replied:
His reason for not going: "No Viet Cong never called me a nigger"
still resonates (with me anyway).
LOL.
Not exactly politically discharging, t
Scott Loveless wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:18:20 -0500, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is *not* the place for political discussion.
Thank you, John. As usual, someone else states my intention much more
tactfully than I. My apologies for any incitement.
Did _you_ get a threatening
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Frank wrote:
>>
>> I know, you aren't much of a tilt guy, are you Paul.
>
>I tilt every now and then
Me too, but only at windmills.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Frank wrote:
>
> I know, you aren't much of a tilt guy, are you Paul.
>
I tilt every now and then, sometimes to the degree where I spill my coffee. But
I attribute those occurances to senior moments.
Paul
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:06:08 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank,
> I have a big problem with what you've written below. You're completely wrong.
> The tilt hoovers .
I know, you aren't much of a tilt guy, are you Paul.
All politics aside, photography is what counts, ri
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:56:05 -0500, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:44:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <
> Neither was Cassius Clay, but we don't bitch about him. This is
> rather politcally charged, don't you think?
By the time he was drafted, his name was Mohame
Frank,
I have a big problem with what you've written below. You're completely wrong.
The tilt hoovers .
Paul
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:36:46 -0600, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Frank,
> >
> > In the 50's, all of us kids played WAR.
> > John Wayne was a box office hero in numerous
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:49:17 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A Hard Day's Night?!
>
> They showed that at a theatre here in Pittsburgh last summer. I'd never
> seen it before and was really knocked out by how good a *film* it is!
It's a ~great~ film!! Why, the Pentax content a
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:36:46 -0600, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank,
>
> In the 50's, all of us kids played WAR.
> John Wayne was a box office hero in numerous war stories.
> My dad served in WWII and my uncle Bill was off in the Korean war.
> By the time we got to the late 60's, i
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:18:20 -0500, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is *not* the place for political discussion.
>
Thank you, John. As usual, someone else states my intention much more
tactfully than I. My apologies for any incitement.
>
--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixt
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 09:47:21PM +, mike wilson wrote:
[purely political posturing]
This is *not* the place for political discussion.
Scott Loveless wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:44:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
Veitnam War: All of the blood,
mp;W pictures:-)
Yefei
>
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:07:24 -0800
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem, and a little rant
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Con
Jostein,
Not a shooting style I'm familiar with.
Any and all comments are most welcome.
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694
for me the boy on the right makes the shot (no pun intended). I can't
explain why, I just feel it so. This shot probably would stand on its
own even
Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:44:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT
> >
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:44:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusale
>
> From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/03/21 Mon PM 03:39:13 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
>
> Veitnam War: All of the blood, guts, mud, and misery; none of the glory.
>
> Everyone learned
Veitnam War: All of the blood, guts, mud, and misery; none of the glory.
Everyone learned from it except seemingly GWB, jr.
(Sorry, I could not resist the tagline)
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Fra
Cotty opined:
>
> FWIW tilt in a pic like this adds character.
>
Sometimes. But pictures like this -- with strong verticals -- are usually more
pleasing without the tilt. I wouldn't want to say for sure without seeing it
both ways.
Paul
> On 21/3/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:41:13 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> regarding> > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694>
>
> > I'd like to see this in B&W, or with a slight sepia tone. People shoot
> > too
> > much
Cool shot, I like composition and light, and very
fresh, relaxed facial expressions. Congrats
Albano
--- Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a shooting style I'm familiar with.
> Any and all comments are most welcome.
>
>
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694
>
> Tha
Frank,
In the 50's, all of us kids played WAR.
John Wayne was a box office hero in numerous war stories.
My dad served in WWII and my uncle Bill was off in the Korean war.
By the time we got to the late 60's, it was the Vietnam era...
and I didn't want to play war anymore.
We all grew up just fin
On 21/3/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Now that you mention it, I don't understand how I could have
>overlooked the tilt myself.
FWIW tilt in a pic like this adds character.
Cheers,
Cotty
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_
Thanks, Paul.
Now that you mention it, I don't understand how I could have
overlooked the tilt myself.
I don't agree about the cropping...:-)
Cheers,
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: &quo
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> My wife, for example, won't watch a B&W movie;
>
>Wow! That's a pretty extreme position to take.
>
>She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull?
A
Cotty wondered;
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694
I like it. Maybe mono?
Thanks mate.
I tried mono, and it didn't appeal to me.
Like Shel thinks B&W, I'm stuck thinking in colour, I think. :-)
Jostein
muted in-camera settings, so they
always have to be "developed" into TIFFs or JPEGs for sharing.
Jostein.
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:20 AM
Subject: RE: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem, an
>>> She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull?
>
>> No, no, and no. Nor Citizen Kane, for that matter.
>
>> To her, colour is important. The absence of colour outweighs
>> just about everything else; she can't see through it to the
>> story beneath, because the lack of co
On 21/3/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Boys always play with guns and cars, and girls always play with dolls.
Until they grow up a bit more when boys play with girls, usually in cars.
And older still when boys play with guns.
And finally, sadly, the boys play with dolls.
Hi,
>> Not a shooting style I'm familiar with.
Then I can't wait to see what you do when you practice!
> Don't get me wrong, Jostein, this is a very powerful image, and a
> terrific (if depressing) photo.
[...]
> Very strong image!!
Yes, I completely agree. It wouldn't look at all out of place
Hi,
>> She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull?
> No, no, and no. Nor Citizen Kane, for that matter.
> To her, colour is important. The absence of colour outweighs
> just about everything else; she can't see through it to the
> story beneath, because the lack of colour
Very nice, Jostein. You captured the atmosphere nicely. Boys like shooting -
guns, cameras, whatever...
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 20. marts 2005 21:55
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:47:41PM -0500, frank theriault wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > My wife, for example, won't watch a B&W movie;
>
> Wow! That's a pretty extreme position to take.
>
> She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a
Casablanca has been restored for DVD. The original sound was nowhere near
as good as that on DVD. If you want to see something really neat, rent
"The Day The Earth Stood Still" and watch the Special Feature where they
compare the original film with various restored incarnations.
Shel
> [Origi
OTOH, last week I watched the latest DVD incarnation of Casablanca. It was
gorgeous, picture quality and sound wise, so I guess it was not the recording media
that was the problem. The local cable station here plays lots of old B&W
movies, they are unwatchable no matter how you adjust the set.
g
In the thirties and forties color was VERY expensive and complex to shoot,
and B&W was used often for cost reasons, not for artiustic concerns. This
was true to a lesser extent in the fifties and sixties. Shooting color in
its early years requirted incredibly bright, hot, and expensive lighting,
a
Hi!
I'm hoping that this was a toy gun, but even if it was, given what we
in North America are presented with on the news WRT violence and
terrorism in Jerusalem and Israel, if kids are playing with guns, I
find that very disquieting.
Frank, I may be risking starting a flame here, but I hope the
Hi!
Not a shooting style I'm familiar with.
Any and all comments are most welcome.
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694
Thanks for looking.
Cool shot. Many things can be said about this one. I have a question to
the honored community of PDML...
Does anyone notice that two b
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:46:55 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In all honesty, Markus, I'm still learninmg about color film.
To be honest with you, while there are many reasons that I shoot B&W
(which I won't bore this list with right now), one reason is that I'm
still learning a
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:33:49 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some later films, notably of the film noire genre of starting in the
> late 30's into the mid 50's, eschewed color for artistic reasons.
Certainly, even into the 70's and later, a very few films were shot in
B&W, and
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My wife, for example, won't watch a B&W movie;
Wow! That's a pretty extreme position to take.
She can't watch Casablanca? To Kill a Mockingbird? Raging Bull?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -He
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:54:36 +0100, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a shooting style I'm familiar with.
> Any and all comments are most welcome.
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Jostein
>
Hmmm...
I don't know what others thin
Just because someone extols the virtues of tonality does not mean that the
subject is not paramount in their eyes.
What do you mean "at the time they were made?" B&W films are still made.
You are mistaken about B&W movies. Citizen Kane, for example, was made in
what, 1941 or so? Watch that movi
Among color negative films Portra NC is quite neutral.
> In all honesty, Markus, I'm still learninmg about color film. I sorta like
> Fuji Superior for being neutral (not Reala), and Sensia and Provia seem
> OK, but not having tried many films, my opinion has little value. There
> were some ni
Some later films, notably of the film noire genre of starting in the
late 30's into the mid 50's, eschewed color for artistic reasons.
John Francis wrote:
There was a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek there. But it's
by no means uncommon to hear people going on about the rich tones
in the print,
There was a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek there. But it's
by no means uncommon to hear people going on about the rich tones
in the print, etc., etc., and ignoring the actual subject.
With B&W movies, though, there are often other factors at work.
Movies shot in B&W used equipment without the
In all honesty, Markus, I'm still learninmg about color film. I sorta like
Fuji Superior for being neutral (not Reala), and Sensia and Provia seem
OK, but not having tried many films, my opinion has little value. There
were some nice color films, like Kodak Ektar and Supra 100 that seemed
pretty
Gotta laugh at that (not at you, John) for so often the comment made about
B&W photography is that it allows the viewer to concentrate on the subject
without the distraction of color.
When watching some movies on DVD, I turn off the color.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: John Francis
>
> M
Hi Shel
I agree with you and wrote it in one of my last emails that most of the
first prints I receive today look oversaturated for me. BTW, which color
film seems to be the most "honest" regarding "color fidelity" for you then?
I'm sure **I** did not *absolutely* need a computer to make good phot
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 05:05:50PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> We will not come to agreement on this.
Nope. People are different.
My wife, for example, won't watch a B&W movie; the absence of
colour really interferes with her ability to concentrate on the
subject. I don't go quite that
Every photo you see here has been "processed on a computer" and even the
color pics have been "adjusted". Is there really so great a difference
between adding a hint of tone to a B&W photo and adding saturation to
color, or enhancing certain areas of a photograph? Or is a hint of sepia
any diffe
I did a Q&D convert to B&W, and, to my eye, it looks better than in color.
But then, I learned to shoot and process B&W, I generally "see" in B&W, and
in many instances find color to be a clutter and a distraction in
photographs. I like B&W movies as well. Why? Well color photographs
~may~ be m
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>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem, and a little rant
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>>Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
regarding> > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694>
> I'd like to see this in B&W, or with a slight sepia tone. People shoot
> too
> much color, perhaps because it's what they're used to seeing, or because
> it's simpler to do (es
If I were to rotate it, I would fill in the gap at the bottom with the clone
tool to avoid cropping the foot. I might even add a bit extra. It's a simple
fill job.
Paul
> Just rotating it a bit to straighten the verticals would require a little
> trimming. I don't think this pic can stand muc
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>>Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:55 PM
>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: Re: PESO: "Gotcha" - Jerusalem
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>>Fun pic, good grab. I'd rotate it to straighten a central
>>vertical, then crop it tighter. But others
"Was it real? Can't imagine that there's much of a "cowboys and indians"
or "cops and robbers" culture there."
Scroll down below the picture and see the comment.
I don't know if ones this young are allowed to have bullets. Pretty
appalling if they are.
Good catch, Jostein.
OT: I visited Israel
That's two of us on that account ;-))
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Cotty
>
> >http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2213/display/2790694
>
> I like it. Maybe mono?
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