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Subject: Re: K20D pictures
Scott opined:
That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the
others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example.
Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-).
I'm wondering
Funny. I sent this about 24 hours ago, and it's just showing up on
the list now. That's been happening a lot lately. No big deal, just a
curiosity.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
1. How long will it take for my hand to
On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48, David J Brooks wrote:
K20D will have to wait. I'm more interested in getting a good F2.8 or
F4 zoom for the horse ring. I plan to make the K10D the mane camera if
a lens comes out soon enough. However if i make money early on my
shows, i might have enough for both
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Subject: Re: K20D pictures
Scott opined:
That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the
others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example.
Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-).
I'm wondering
I'll post some high ISO stuff from the D300 then. It's comparable to
the K20D in performance in my opinion, with the K20D having an edge
only in resolution.
-Adam
On 3/6/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only banding I see is a streak of blue/violet, that is the edge of a
picture
That could be. My monitor is calibrated to match my printer output. It's by no
means high contrast.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K20D pictures
Scott
I got it yesterday. Strange indeed.
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Funny. I sent this about 24 hours ago, and it's just
showing up on
the list now. That's been happening a lot lately. No
big deal, just a
curiosity.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Not the first time...
Charles Robinson wrote:
On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48, David J Brooks wrote:
K20D will have to wait. I'm more interested in getting a good F2.8 or
F4 zoom for the horse ring. I plan to make the K10D the mane camera if
a lens comes out soon enough. However if i make money
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/03/07 Fri PM 12:30:36 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K20D questions
Funny. I sent this about 24 hours ago, and it's just showing up on
the list now. That's been happening a lot lately. No big deal, just
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48, David J Brooks wrote:
K20D will have to wait. I'm more interested in getting a good F2.8 or
F4 zoom for the horse ring. I plan to make the K10D the mane camera if
a lens comes out soon
Here goes, not all these answers are serious ;)
Peter
On 06/03/2008, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front
back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
Not before you have upgraded to the model after next
Yep. That's the kind of high ISO performance everyone can expect. But
some here apparently are placing more weight on the Dubai pictures
that were made with pre-release firmware. Strange logic. BTW, I find
ACR's default settings are not very accurate in terms of color
temperature with the
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front
back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
Dunno
2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's banding?
Yes it is.
Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal
viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at
1600. But to each their own.
Paul
It's clearly visible at the normal view
That's banding? HAR! Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal
viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at
1600. But to each their own.
Paul
On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote:
The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots
I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from
the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in
the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the
image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at
6400 would
I can't see any banding in the normal view and a bare hint of it at
100%. The 6400 output looks just as good as the excellent output from
my D300.
-Adam
On 3/6/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from
the *istD that
- Original Message -
From: David Savage
Subject: Re: K20D pictures
Odd.
On the normal view, in the LHS shadow detail is sticks out like
proverbial to me.
Bill it's your shot. Are you seeing the same thing?
Very slightly, don't find it objectionable, and I suspect treating
Odd.
On the normal view, in the LHS shadow detail is sticks out like
proverbial to me.
Bill it's your shot. Are you seeing the same thing?
Cheers,
Dave
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't see any banding in the normal view and a bare hint of it at
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: K20D pictures
I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from
the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in
the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: K20D pictures
I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from
the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in
the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the
image
Thee are wonderful results. At 6400, a usable image is a benefit; a
nice image is wonderful. And the one at 800 is striking.
I'm pleased with my K10D (even the JPEGS) but it's nice to know that
Pentax is actually moving forward with its camera design and producing
some nice stuff. I really
Trying to answer some :)
1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front
back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
Yes... bad habits die hard. I switched to K10D fom Z-1p and do feel
myself quite OK.
2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the
The answer is 42
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: K20D questions
1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front
back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
2.
Look at these two points together. I'm mainly a JPG shooter, but when
the lighting gets funny I switch to RAW. The raw processing of tricky
white balance is so good that it's worth the trouble.
I use the RAW
4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a
toddler in a
On 6/3/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed:
2. Why does it have to be so big?
I can't believe you guys!
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8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image
stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always?
The switch is labeled incorrectly. It should be Frank and Everybody
else.
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Tim Bray wrote:
1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front
back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel
significantly smaller in the hand.]
3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe
Seems it already is:
http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/6545/A%20Violent%20Purple/Better%20Days%20Will%20Come
http://tinyurl.com/2vqcjt
Doug Brewer wrote:
Tim Bray wrote:
1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front
back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying
well, there ya go
P. J. Alling wrote:
Seems it already is:
http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/6545/A%20Violent%20Purple/Better%20Days%20Will%20Come
http://tinyurl.com/2vqcjt
Doug Brewer wrote:
I dunno, but Violent Purple would be a good name for a rock band.
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2. Why does it have to be so big?
that's what she said...
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At 06:57 AM 7/03/2008, Christian wrote:
2. Why does it have to be so big?
that's what she said...
Really?
Isn't pointing and laughing normal?
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- Original Message -
From: Tim Bray
Subject: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice
I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically,
white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
the
ACR works fine. At least that's true for the version that comes with PSCS 1.
However, the eyedropper doesn't work. But I rarely use that. I set color
temperature to my liking. All the pics I've posted were RAW DNG files
processsed with ACR.
Paul
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I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically,
white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
the images. I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd
bet that
- Until Lightroom and Camera Raw are updated for the K20D
specifically, they cannot directly operate on K20D PEF files.
- The only way to transfer Pentax Photo Lab adjustment to Lightroom
is to render the RAW file as a TIFF or JPEG.
- Again, until LR and CR are updated, they have no
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D calibrations
in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me
know the
I get only a screen full of code from these. I'd like to see how one
of these shots responds to manual adjustment. Can you e-mail the pic.
Either one would be fine. As shot is better than run through lightroom.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM,
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get only a screen full of code from these. I'd like to see how one
of these shots responds to manual adjustment. Can you e-mail the pic.
Either one would be fine. As shot is better than run through lightroom.
On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D
calibrations
in Lightroom. Or put a
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or
two
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does that mean it will only work for horses and lions?
You got that one, eh.:-)
Dave
--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I plan to make the K10D
the mane camera if
a lens comes out soon enough.
Dave
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:30 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses
List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses will benefit from some fine tuning of the focal
point. Although it remains to be seen how accurate the DA lenses
might be. The kind of adjustments I'm making are quite fine
List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses will benefit from some fine tuning of the focal
point. Although it remains to be seen how accurate the DA lenses
might be. The kind of adjustments I'm making
:
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses will benefit from some fine tuning of the focal
point. Although it remains
P. J. Alling wrote:
The plane of focus at the focusing screen and at the sensor should be
the same otherwise why have a focusing screen. Send it back to Pentax
with a stiff note describing the problem and telling them you want it
fixed. They can't just adjust the software, the focusing
]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses will benefit from some fine tuning of the focal
point. Although it remains to be seen how accurate the DA lenses
might be. The kind
The autofocus adjustment will only alter the relationship of the lens to the
focal plane. In other words, you can't choose to adjust one end of the focal
length range and not the other. I don't own that lens, so I can't tell you if
it's a problem on my camera, but my DA 16-45 and DA 50-200 seem
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:17 AM, jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I mount the DA* 16-50 F2.8 on the K20D and focus on something far away,
the autofocus will move the focus point to just short of the 2 m. mark. It
won't focus to the infinity mark. If I manually focus to infinity, distant
Joe,
I get the exact same behavior with my DA* 16-50 on my new K10D when the lens
is set at 16mm. At longer focal lengths, the lens focuses just fine out to
infinity.
Interestingly enough, 2+ meters is the hyperfocal distance for a 16mm lens
set at F5.6 and a circle of confusion of 0.02mm
- Original Message -
From: Jay Taylor
Subject: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the
freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac.
Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble.
Time for a PC?
HAR!!
William Robb
, 2008 at 8:30 AM, William Robb
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I think most
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From: jtainter
Subject: K20D Misfocusing
I suspect that I have a defective K20D, and that I have to send it to Pentax.
You've had it for such a short time, you should be able to do an over the
counter exchange if it
is defective.
William Robb
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Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses will benefit
On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:07, Bob Sullivan wrote:
I've put two samples up on Photo.net.
They are basically DNG's converted to jpegs and compressed to 2-3
megs.
If you click on the photos you can go to a full sized image for each.
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=814433
The train
The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at
iso1600.
I have even seen it in iso800 shots!
Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :)
later
Owen
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From: Owen LaPrath
Subject: Re: K20D pictures
The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at
iso1600.
I have even seen it in iso800 shots!
Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :)
Like I said, it isn't there at 3200, 6400 is only
At 04:46 PM 4/03/2008, Wilko Bulte wrote:
Quoting Adam Maas, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:36:20PM -0500 ..
Nikon does lens data WAY better than Leica. Database in the camera,
enter your lens data, press a button and twirl a wheel to pick the
lens, no mod to the lens necessary. Of
So it seems the older F and FA lenses may have some fine tuning then.
Wonder what the A lenses will do, i have more of them than F and FA ones.
I hope by adjusting my K10D i did not throw things out of wack. But
then again i panic about things like that,:-)
K20D will have to wait. I'm more
OK
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pentax Photo Lab processed shots may look less noisy, but they lose detail as
well. If you saw the 1600 ISO shots I posted, I think you'd have to agree
that they're coparable to ISO 400 K10D shots in terms of noise -- with no
I think most lenses will benefit from some fine tuning of the focal
point. Although it remains to be seen how accurate the DA lenses
might be. The kind of adjustments I'm making are quite fine, and the
difference isn't critical for most subjects. About the only place
where it comes into
Quoting Adam Maas, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:36:20PM -0500 ..
On 3/3/08, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Timber, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:23:01PM +0100 ..
Paul,
You really want me to go totally broke? I am trying to surmount the
temptation, but
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment
I think most lenses will benefit from some fine tuning of the focal
point. Although it remains to be seen how
On 3/4/08, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Adam Maas, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:36:20PM -0500 ..
Nikon does lens data WAY better than Leica. Database in the camera,
enter your lens data, press a button and twirl a wheel to pick the
lens, no mod to the lens
On 3/4/08, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/4/08, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Adam Maas, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:36:20PM -0500 ..
Nikon does lens data WAY better than Leica. Database in the camera,
enter your lens data, press a button and
On 3/4/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 04:46 PM 4/03/2008, Wilko Bulte wrote:
Quoting Adam Maas, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:36:20PM -0500 ..
Nikon does lens data WAY better than Leica. Database in the camera,
enter your lens data, press a button and twirl a wheel
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave,
It's essentially the same setup as the SR lens length input, just with
quick access stored items and max aperture. Quicker than the Pentax
setup, but similar.
As I thought. But I do like the idea of a in camera
Thanks for posting these, Bob. I remember the Downers Grove train station from
my days in Chicago.
I'm thinking that the K20D is more resistant to sensor bloom than previous
Pentax digitals. My 400/5.6 and A2X-S combination was very bad in that regard
with both the D and the K10, but I didn't
This is pretty interesting. I've never really noticed any BF or FF
problems, but I tend to use my FA 20-35 or my 50 1.4 in daylight. Dof
probably saves me. I'd be really curious to know how much this
adjustment differs from, say, one FA 50 1.4 to another.
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, it is interesting. I'm going to recheck my FA50/1.4. The target I used
with my FA35/2 was better than the one I used previously, so it was easier to
pick the best frame. But in picking the best frame, the difference is so
slight, I have to go to at least 100% magnification of a hi-res
Charles,
The tree was taken with the A 20/2.8 lens.
Because of the conditions, making the station sharp was a problem.
Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:07, Bob Sullivan wrote:
I've put two samples up on
Does that mean it will only work for horses and lions?
--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I plan to make the K10D
the mane camera if
a lens comes out soon enough.
Dave
Never miss a
I don't use the new Pentax software much, but it does produce cleaner
results now than the first version, just not as sharp as other
converters I've been using. (I find the interface clunky as well).
Paul Stenquist wrote:
To be fair, I should add that I haven't tried the Pentax software
On 3/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for posting these, Bob. I remember the Downers Grove train station
from my days in Chicago.
I'm thinking that the K20D is more resistant to sensor bloom than previous
Pentax digitals. My 400/5.6 and A2X-S combination was very bad
Thanks Ken. Were it not for the very obvious advantages in terms of
noise, I could have done without it. But it is certainly proving a
worthwhile investment.
Paul
On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Nice captures all Paul.
In brief, due to reduced noise at high ISO, the new
Paul,
You really want me to go totally broke? I am trying to surmount the
temptation, but you make it very hard :D Couldn't you just post images
to show something bad about the K20D to save me from running dangerously
low on money? :D
All the pictures are very impressive. As I read on a german
Quoting Timber, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:23:01PM +0100 ..
Paul,
You really want me to go totally broke? I am trying to surmount the
temptation, but you make it very hard :D Couldn't you just post images
to show something bad about the K20D to save me from running dangerously
On 3/3/08, Timber, discombobulated, unleashed:
If Pentax manages to make this sensor
with Full Frame and releases a K2D with the same pricing policy (so
cheaper than Nikon's D3 and Canon's 1D series... maybe somewhere around
Canon EOS 5D?) then I believe the two giants could have a very
I expect a K2d the K1 was the mz-d re-badged, or possibly badged
because the mz-d never did have an official name.
Cotty wrote:
On 3/3/08, Timber, discombobulated, unleashed:
If Pentax manages to make this sensor
with Full Frame and releases a K2D with the same pricing policy (so
On 3/3/08, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Timber, who wrote on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:23:01PM +0100 ..
Paul,
You really want me to go totally broke? I am trying to surmount the
temptation, but you make it very hard :D Couldn't you just post images
to show something bad
I didn't even try to install it. Don't plan to do so. The only Pentax
software I use is the Remote Assistant. The rest is useless IMO.
Pal
On Mar 2, 2008, at 12:18 AM, Jim King wrote:
Jay Taylor wrote on Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:18:57 -0800
Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I
No. It's still crap software.
There are only two reasons to use PPL ...
- So you can obtain the same JPEG rendering as the camera produces.
- Because it's free.
To the first, if that's what I wanted, I'd make the image processing
settings on the camera and not waste my time with post
Well I think the the Pentax software handles the high ISO (1600+) shots better.
I took some at ISO 3200 in mixed WB lighting adjusting the white
balance in ACR introduced some interesting noise. The same shot
processed in PhotoLab was much better.
I hate using PPL though. It's slow, has an
To be fair, I should add that I haven't tried the Pentax software
since the first version that came with the *istD. Am I missing
something? That first version delivered noisy results and didn't
allow for stretching the dynamic range like ACR does. The results
were not pleasing. I didn't
Paul:
That first photo is really terrific, and all of these experiences with
the K20D is making life very difficult for me: I just cleared out most
of my debt and the urge to buy the camera is, how shall we say,
strong. The only thing keeping me from buying one is the image of my
wife
Thanks Micah. Sorry to tempt you:-). I had to sell a bunch of stuff to come up
with it. And if I had done my income tax return first, I might have had to
pass. Good thing I didn't do that:-).
Paul
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From: Micah Kleit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul:
Noise is a slight bit noticeable on #3. Don't know if I could lift this
combination, let alone shoot and adjust focus at the same time.
I did sort of expect slightly more detail, but with the 2X T/C the
inadvertent rapid scene movement would have been extremely difficult to
overcome even at the
Hi Jack,
Yes, the noise is noticeable on number three. It's the result of underexposing
to preserve the highlight detail. Number two is basically the same shot exposed
at about meter reading, but the bright highlight on the front of the bird burns
out. A function of the light. Deail looks
Nice captures all Paul.
In brief, due to reduced noise at high ISO, the new camera is giving
me long-glass capability that I didn't have with any of the other
Pentax digitals.
HMM thought I could do without the 20D. I'm not so sure now. Maybe I can
get some depth with my 600?
Kenneth
I just shoot DNG. No problem.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the
freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac.
Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or
Do you have the latest version of Adobe's Camera RAW installed?
Adobe's usually very good about keeping up to date on the various RAW
formats, and PEF has been around for a while nowin fact, Lightroom
can read all the PEFs from my old *stD
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jay Taylor [EMAIL
It's not updated for the K20D yet.
-Adam
On 3/1/08, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have the latest version of Adobe's Camera RAW installed?
Adobe's usually very good about keeping up to date on the various RAW
formats, and PEF has been around for a while nowin fact,
The K20D .pef formt is different enought that ACR doesn't know what to
do with them.
I'm waiting for an Adobe update as ACR doesn't seem to handle the RAW
files as well as the supplied Pentax software (urgh)
Cheers,
Dave
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do
ACR works splendidly with the K20D DNG files.
Paul
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The K20D .pef formt is different enought that ACR doesn't know what to
do with them.
I'm waiting for an Adobe update as ACR doesn't seem to handle
Not IMO.
Pics processed with Pentax Photo lab, especially high ISO shots, have
their noise controlled much better
Shame that the program is such a PITA to use.
CHeers,
Dave
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ACR works splendidly with the K20D DNG files.
Paul
Pentax Photo Lab processed shots may look less noisy, but they lose detail as
well. If you saw the 1600 ISO shots I posted, I think you'd have to agree that
they're coparable to ISO 400 K10D shots in terms of noise -- with no loss of
detail. They're all ACR processed. I have never seen any
Jay Taylor wrote on Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:18:57 -0800
Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the
freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac.
Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble.
I also had problems with the Pentax installer for PPB/PPL v3.5 which
Anthony Farr escribió:
The early Pentax DSLRs had IR cutoff filters in front of their imaging
sensors that nevertheless transmitted enough near IR light to make a useful
IR exposure with an R-72 or similar filter. Can you assert that the IR
cutoff filter over the AF sensor is more absolute in
My D is up on ebay, so I have to buy now. I need a backup. And I
think the price of *istD cameras may fall in the next couple of
months at least as much as that of the K20D. I think it will be long
past June before the K20D is cheaper.
Paul
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