Well,
The House passed the Marriage Penalty-Child Tax Credit portion of Bush's tax
plan. However, they made one major modification which was to allow parents
who pay no income taxes to qualify for the child tax credit up to the point
they pay social security taxes. It also applied some of the
[Back in 1988 I was working for Goldman-Sachs. Robert Rubin was the vice
chairman and Jon Corzine was a senior partner. Shortly after receiving a
zero percent raise, I got a job as an independent consultant. Zero percent
raises were the messages delivered to highly skilled programmers and other
from the news summary of SLATE, Microsoft's on-line magazine: The [Wall Street
JOURNAL]
reports that Europe's hoof-and-mouth and mad-cow troubles have invigorated America's
horsemeat market. Europeans have apparently always had a taste for filly mignon, most
of
which comes from the U.S., and
I think it is more general than that. I have been in situations, some
dating back 20 years, some a lot more recent, where members of priveleged
groups (rich whites, male physicians, etc.) Told crude anti-black,
anti-semetic, anti-women jokes and if you didn't "go along" by laughing, the
response
One of the main writers for Marx Brothers films was Murray Ryskind, a
notable Hollywood right-winger. Harpo was a lot more left than Groucho.
Also, I guess it is well known that the Brothers introduced a lot a ad
libbing on top of the scripts they were given. By the way, I get some of
this from
Martin wrote: I get some of this from a book I picked up on the remainder table called
Ticky Dick and the Pink Lady. It is about the 1948 Nixon Douglas campaign. The book
could have used an edit,a lot of repetitive material. But also a lot of fascinating
information. A lot of the scum that
I think it is more general than that. I have been in situations, some
dating back 20 years, some a lot more recent, where members of priveleged
groups (rich whites, male physicians, etc.) Told crude anti-black,
anti-semetic, anti-women jokes and if you didn't "go along" by laughing, the
response
Right.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:9801] Re: RE: Re: A Fair Deal?
Martin wrote: I get some of this from a book I picked up on the remainder
table called
Ticky Dick and
Law as aggressive protector of private property.
Thanks to Les S. for this:
From slashhdot.org: "A Canadian court has ruled that a farmer growing
genetically modified canola without a license violated Monsanto's patent and
owes damages. Percy Schmeiser claims that the seeds blew onto his
Charles, it is worse than that. He has been breeding and collecting his own
seeds for decades, developing his own distinctive strains. He sued Monsanto
for contaminating his crops with the pollen.
Charles Brown wrote:
Law as aggressive protector of private property.
Thanks to Les S. for
Wierd, but the richest Dems in the Senate are among the most progressive,
within the low standards of that body.
Louis Proyect wrote:
[Back in 1988 I was working for Goldman-Sachs. Robert
Rubin was the vice
chairman and Jon Corzine was a senior partner. Shortly after receiving
a
zero percent
Why weird? In a system dominated by outside
corporate money, self-financed progressives are the only ones who don't need to
compromise with corporate interests in order to fund their campaigns and get
elected.
-- Nathan Newman
- Original Message -
From:
Michael Perelman
ECONOMIC NOTES
NEWS AND ANALYSIS FROM THE LABOR RESEARCH ASSOCIATION
http://www.LaborResearch.org
March 29, 2001
UNION TRENDS
Number of Major Strikes Doubled in 2000 (Mar. 29, 2001)
Rebounding from a record low in 1999, the number of strikes involving more
than a 1,000 workers doubled last
Why weird? In a system dominated by outside corporate money, self-financed
progressives are the only ones who don't need to compromise with corporate
interests in order to fund their campaigns and get elected.
-- Nathan Newman
I think the problem is in the term "progressive", which is what
Michael Perelman wrote:
Wierd, but the richest Dems in the Senate are among the most progressive,
within the low standards of that body.
Nathan wrote:
Why weird? In a system dominated by outside corporate money,
self-financed progressives are the only ones who don't need to compromise
with
Let me get this straight. Monsanto's private property is intellectual
property, essentially a legal fiction on par with M.'s corporate
personhood. The farmer's land is mere _real_ property, essentially also a
legal fiction but having a common law history going back many, many
centuries. So the
Intellectual property is old, too: Patents are in the constitution, and were
known (I am sure) for centuries before that. Property is a "fiction," but it
has a social objectivity that makes it quite real. --jks
Let me get this straight. Monsanto's private property is intellectual
property,
- Original Message -
From: "Louis Proyect" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But since one of the main
issues facing working people over the past 20 years has been downsizing, it
seems rather hypocritical for somebody associated with a firm that threw
out its own loyal employees and brokered deals that
At 08:25 AM 3/30/01 -0800, you wrote:
Let me get this straight. Monsanto's private property is intellectual
property, essentially a legal fiction on par with M.'s corporate
personhood. The farmer's land is mere _real_ property, essentially also a
legal fiction but having a common law history
What's progressive about a man, who along with
others in his firm and a handful of other arbtitraging firms "nuked" the Asian
financial system, putting millions into dire straits.
Ian
- Original Message -
From:
Nathan Newman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March
Although layoffs and bad employment practices better not disqualify anyone
as a progressive, since Nader, ACORN, and every labor union I know has
shitty internal labor practices. The boss is the boss, no matter what their
external politics. You'd probably do better citing the economic harm of
The court held that
regardless of whether he planted them deliberately or if he merely found
them growing on his farm, it was his responsibility to destroy the seeds and
seedlings or pay royalties.
I'm not familiar with Canadian patent law, but in general those bodies
of law that, grouped
On the ancient and long history of private property of different types especially in
European history, see Engels' _The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the
State_.
Private property is the legal crystalization of class exploitative relations of
production. So, it is the numero uno
- Original Message -
From: "Louis Proyect" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although layoffs and bad employment practices better not disqualify anyone
as a progressive, since Nader, ACORN, and every labor union I know has
shitty internal labor practices. The boss is the boss, no matter what
their
No, Goldman Sachs pays much better, with much better job security, and more
respect for their employees.
How do you know this? Aren't you aware of the racism of outfits like
Goldman-Sachs? Furthermore, it is silly to compare the treatment of staff
at ACORN with Goldman-Sach's downsizing. A
Speaking of remainder tables, I recently picked up a 4 volume set called "History of
Labor in the United States."
A number of scholars seemed took part in writing sections of it.
Volume 1 1918, 1946. "The 'first recorded [American] labour strike,' says Mrs. Van
Rensselaer (History of the
was: Re: [PEN-L:9817] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jon Corzine: Nation
Magazine contributor
Louis wrote:
I am for radical organizing in the streets but advocate that all Senators
be thrown in jail for crimes against humanity. All of 'em. Who was that
woman in "Tale of Two Cities" that knitted a scarf
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:20:44 -0500, Nathan Newman wrote:
As a number of conservatives have noted, we are reaching the point where a
majority of families will be paying no income taxes at all. This is
actually quite positive, since any appeals to cut all taxes "X percent" will
have no even
- Original Message -
From: "Louis Proyect" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, Goldman Sachs pays much better, with much better job security, and more
respect for their employees.
-How do you know this? Aren't you aware of the racism of outfits like
-Goldman-Sachs? Furthermore, it is silly to compare
The US non-profit sector is unique. Most other countries don't have so many
organizations of this type. Is this
sector about to undergo a wave of privatization?
Heard yesterday on "Radio Times," a local call-in radio program: the Please Touch
Museum in Philadelphia, a
children's museum, has
I don't understand what the problem is. Is the suggestion that the WTO
will force the Candian health care system to partially privatize? Maybe
foreign-owned companies could then enter the market and compete for
part of it. Why would this threaten Canada and not Europe? I thought
they both had
NY Times, March 30, 2001
Business Ups and Downs at Internet Speed
By JOHN SCHWARTZ
As one of the brightest lights of the Internet revolution, Cisco Systems
has long been looked to as the company that not only supplies the equipment
that holds the Web together but also understands how
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/01 12:40PM
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:07:50 -0500, Charles Brown wrote:
Private property is the legal crystalization of class exploitative relations of
production. So, it is the numero uno
effective principle of bourgeois law and jurisprudence , today's exploitative form
Charles Brown wrote:
-
People owning stuff is personal property. The aim is not to abolish personal
property. Individual consumer goods would be personally owned.
Private property has the technical connotation of ownership of the social
productive means that are necessary to
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:48:02 -0500, Charles Brown wrote:
Private property has the technical connotation of ownership of the social productive
means that are necessary to production in a society with an enormous division of
labor or soicalization and specialization of the production process. The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/01 02:05PM
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:48:02 -0500, Charles Brown wrote:
Private property has the technical connotation of ownership of the social productive
means that are necessary to production in a society with an enormous division of
labor or soicalization and
Folks,
Later today I shall be unsubbing again from
pen-l for an extended period of time, probably longer
than my last absence. Work on a book and other
matters is simply pressing way too hard on me. Will
be on for a bit more for any immediate responses to
this message.
1) To
It is interesting that those who remain committed to socialism and/or
communism are hard-line conservatives whereas their opponenets are
reformers! It used to be that socialists and communists were leftists and
radicals.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
From: Stephen E Philion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:56:59 -0600, Ken Hanly wrote:
March 15, 2001
Nearly four fifths of Russians are nostalgic about Soviet Union
According to a poll conducted by the Public Opinion Foundation shortly
before the 10th anniversary of a referendum on the preservation of the
Soviet Union, the
I figured PEN-L would get a chuckle out of this...
-b
National Post (formerly The Financial Post)
Monday, March 19, 2001
THE FABULOUS BAKER BOY
Many observers of U.S. and international economic
affairs learn a lot from Paul Krugman, even if
they don't always agree with him. They may wonder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/01 01:52PM
Charles Brown wrote:
-
People owning stuff is personal property. The aim is not to abolish personal
property. Individual consumer goods would be personally owned.
Private property has the technical connotation of ownership of the social
Andrew,
Some blather from old Karl Marx on this one.
When a lot of people do not own capital, and
it is necessary to work with capital in order to
survive, then those who own capital will be able
to exploit those who do not and who must work for
them.
Barkley Rosser
- Original Message
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2001:
Both the total number of mass layoff events and the number of employees
involved climbed in February, reaching their highest levels for that month
since the data series began 6 years ago, the Bureau of Labor Statistics
reports. Mass layoffs --
Charles Brown wrote:
--
There is enormous division of labor and specialization in the historical
socialist states. It is pretty much the same level of divsion of labor as
the capitalist state it takes over from.
Miners only mine. They don't make steel , by and large. Doctors
At 01:23 PM 3/30/01 -0500, you wrote:
The show made the point that corporate philanthropy cannot be counted on
as before. Instead, a quid pro quo
will be required. Just as we've seen municipal stadiums renamed (from
Candlestick Park to 3Com Park, from
Hoosier Dome to RCA Dome), we are perhaps
David S. wrote:
Maybe I am just being dense. You defined "private property" (which you seek
to abolish) in your previous post as "Private property has the technical
connotation of ownership of the social productive means that are necessary
to production in a society with an enormous division of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/01 03:23PM
Charles Brown wrote:
--
There is enormous division of labor and specialization in the historical
socialist states. It is pretty much the same level of divsion of labor as
the capitalist state it takes over from.
Miners only mine. They
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/01 03:47PM
David S. wrote:
Maybe I am just being dense. You defined "private property" (which you seek
to abolish) in your previous post as "Private property has the technical
connotation of ownership of the social productive means that are necessary
to production in
--- Andrew Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Volume 1 1918, 1946. "The 'first recorded
[American] labour strike,' says Mrs. Van Rensselaer
(History of the
City of New York, II, 219), occurred in 1677, when
'the licensed cartmen . . . combined to refuse full
compliance when ordered to
On behalf of the WBAI Local Advisory Board, I have been asked to circulate
this statement by the board. Could you please disseminate it further.
Thank you very much.
Andrew Norris WBAI LAB member
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The WBAI LAB comments on
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:17:44 -0800 (PST), Tim Bousquet wrote:
Isn't this somewhat ethno-centric? Or maybe
wage-labor-centric? Surely slave revolts can be
considered strikes. []
Yes, that's a great point. The books were written in parts dating from the 19th
Century to sometime in the 30s,
Letter: Horowitz's diatribe contains historical
inaccuracies
By John Hope Franklin
Here are a few things to bear in mind when reading the
diatribe on slavery and reparations that appeared in The Chronicle a few
days ago.
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:46:05 +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
[] However, even though "the transformation problem" is extremely boring, I
note that Barkley does not necessarily imply inverted commas around it. He
does not appear to think it can be dismissed, as I do, as an artefact of
I grant that the proportional imbalance in average personal incomes has increased
between rich and poor
countries over the last 40 years. Nevertheless, if the American economy grows, it can
help a lot of poorer
countries. Here's what The Economist recently said, anyway:
"Conventional
From time to time, we discuss the
marginalization of the left within the
university. Here's another example.
The Chronicle of Higher
Education
March 30, 2001
David Noble says he was rejected by
Simon Fraser U. over his anti-
technology views
By Jeffrey R. Young
This month, a
Andrew Hagen writes:
The Transformation Problem is in no way boring. IMHO it is at the crux of
the question of the validity of classical Marxism. It is unfair, though,
to judge Marx as a thinker who failed for this reason; Marx died before he
could finish editing volume 2, and far before
I haven't been following this thread (multiple apologies), but what was wrong
with Shaikh's solution? He offers a critique of the Bortkiewicz procedure and
proposes a method of transformation which reconciles the contradiction (of
Bortkiewicz/Sweezy, where the aggregate equalities assumed by Marx
Interspersed comments follow.
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:54:01 -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
I don't think that this is an accurate presentation of history or the
literature on this matter. I, for one, think that the so-called "New
solution" (which is hardly "new" at this point) solves all the issues.
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:57:06 -0600, Forstater, Mathew wrote:
I haven't been following this thread (multiple apologies), but what was wrong
with Shaikh's solution? []
The New Palgrave entry on "Transformation Problem" argues that the solution given in
Shaikh's 1977 paper did
not have total
I published an article pertaining to the transformation problem.
Someone posted a version of my Cambridge Journal article on the Web.
http://www.ucm.es/wwwboard/bas/messages/223.htm
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:49:08PM -0500, Andrew Hagen wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:57:06 -0600, Forstater,
Louis wrote:
I am for radical organizing in the streets but advocate that all Senators
be thrown in jail for crimes against humanity. All of 'em. Who was that
woman in Tale of Two Cities that knitted a scarf with the names of all
the aristocrats slated for the guillotine in it? Madame LaFarge!
Just to underscore the irony, how else could Corzine have raked in billions of
dollars, 80 million of which he would
later use in a progressive senatorial campaign, except by exploiting workers? It's
nice to get a few Jon Corzines
on our side, but clearly our strategy is to stop exploitation
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:07:50 -0500, Charles Brown wrote:
Private property is the legal crystalization of class exploitative relations of
production. So, it is the numero uno
effective principle of bourgeois law and jurisprudence , today's exploitative form of
productive relations.
The
Louis Proyect wrote:
Actually, the character who inspired this thread--one Joe Queenan--is a
frequent guest on the Don Imus show, which along with the Howard Stern
show, encapsulates what's wrong with mainstream humor. Unlike the Marx
Brothers, Mark Twain or Jonathan Swift, humor on these shows
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