The opinion polls in Chechnya show (rebel leader) Aslan Maskhadov and (pro-Moscow
Chechen president) Aslan Kadyrov as being viewed with about equally phenomenal levels
of dislike. Maskhadov has an about 1% approval rating. It's rough being a warlord. :)
As I recall the polls showed more
1) I don't know how the hell Tahoo is going to compete with Yandex.ru and Rambler.ru,
which are entrenched in the Russian market and giant.
2) I don't get how computers are a luxury in Russia. Most everybody I know has one.
Hell, you can use one in an Internet cafe in Moscow for $1 an hour,
Chris Doss wrote:
The opinion polls in Chechnya show (rebel leader) Aslan Maskhadov and
(pro-Moscow Chechen president) Aslan Kadyrov as being viewed with about
equally phenomenal levels of dislike. Maskhadov has an about 1% approval
rating. It's rough being a warlord. :)
Is this an endorsement of
NY Newsday, March 28, 2004
How your job may go abroad
BY JAMES T. MADORE AND PRADNYA JOSHI
Staff Writer
The Bank of New York plans to send 250 technology jobs from Manhattan
and elsewhere in the country to India.
The accounting firm Marcum Kliegman LLP, with offices in Woodbury and
Manhattan, is
The US has taken steps to ensure it controls Iraq through its future army
even after it formally transfers political sovereignty to a civilian
government, reports todays Washington Post.
The Post says the US is creating an Iraqi defence department modelled on the
Pentagon, and is presently
NY Times, March 28, 2004
Mayor With a Mission
By ROBERT SULLIVAN
Jason West, the mayor of the little Hudson Valley village of New Paltz
who married 25 gay couples last month before receiving a court
injunction to stop, has been thinking about gay marriage for a long
time. In fact, immediately
Incidentally there is an interview with Kadyrov right here (edited by moi):
http://www.untimely-thoughts.com/index.html?cat=Aug%202,%202003type=3art=138. As far
as I know it is the only time he has ever been interviewed by a Westerner. It is
pre-2003 election.
You mean on the part of the Chechen population? Hard to say. My impression is that the
majority of the population is very tired of being caught in a cross-fire bewteen
trigger-happy, panicky Russian conscripts and jihadi nutballs and will accept anything
that will get them out of the situation.
Chris Doss wrote:
You mean on the part of the Chechen population? Hard to say. My
impression is that the majority of the population is very tired of being
caught in a cross-fire bewteen trigger-happy, panicky Russian conscripts
and jihadi nutballs and will accept anything that will get them out of
Wealthy individuals and corporations no longer need representatives
in Parliament or government to safeguard their interests and swing
votes. A few rich men sit in the Commons, including Archie Norman, the
former chairman of Asda supermarkets, and Michael Ancram, heir to the
Marquess of Lothian,
C'mon Chris, it's you who taught me that Moscow isn't Russia. Different
living standards, different access to technology, etc.
Joanna
Chris Doss wrote:
1) I don't know how the hell Tahoo is going to compete with Yandex.ru and Rambler.ru, which are entrenched in the Russian market and giant.
2)
Some experts see benefits being derived from outsourcing. Exporting
routinized jobs such as programming can lower costs for companies and
give them the cash to invest in higher-skilled, more innovative jobs in
the United States.
_
This is such a joke. I won't even comment about
is it possible that a lot of the out-sourcing is a substitute for importing skilled
workers (under the special visas whose name I've forgotten) to do the work here?
Jim D.
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joanna bujes wrote:
More interesting is the thesis that outsourcing is profitable for
hi-tech companies. I wonder how they figure out that profit. The very
large hi tech company I work for has outsourced a number of projects to
India and China. I know first hand that the results of this
Glad to hear it. If I told you the actual details of these disasters,
you would not believe it...plus it would take a lot of time.
The truth is they don't have a clue on how to manage intellectual labor.
They try to do it as it were an assembly line. Doesn't work. Offsourcing
Hi-tech means
joanna bujes wrote:
The efficacy of the capitalist model is more myth than fact.
Compared to what? It's hard to argue with its capacity to grow,
innovate, and produce cheaper commodities over the centuries - at a
high social and ecological cost, for sure, but I don't think you can
win the
Not really. Initially the H1 and L1 visas facilitated the temporary and
some permanent import of skilled workers. This was pre-Y2K era on-site
work. The work was largely low-end--maintenance, debugging, some nominal
systems integration. Physical presence was vital. Now with learning and
joanna bujes wrote:
The truth is they don't have a clue on how to manage intellectual labor.
They try to do it as it were an assembly line. Doesn't work. Offsourcing Hi-
tech means managing intellectual labor accross great geographical, cultural,
and sometimes linguistic divides. Not what I would
Doug Henwood wrote:
Compared to what? It's hard to argue with its capacity to grow,
innovate, and produce cheaper commodities over the centuries - at a
high social and ecological cost, for sure, but I don't think you can
win the efficiency argument from the left. It has to be on other
grounds.
Doug Henwood wrote:
Compared to what? It's hard to argue with its capacity to grow,
innovate, and produce cheaper commodities over the centuries - at a
high social and ecological cost, for sure, but I don't think you can
win the efficiency argument from the left. It has to be on other
grounds.
I
Compared to what? It's hard to argue with its capacity to
grow,innovate, and produce cheaper commodities over the centuries - at
ahigh social and ecological cost, for sure, but I don't think you canwin
the "efficiency" argument from the left. It has to be on othergrounds.
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I ask my students
what "Omission is often the greatest lie" means. I ask them if they are just
picking up a book for the first time, written by an author with whom they are
unfamiliar, how do you get a sense of that the author's ideological biases and
rhetorical intentions
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So you're punishing your students because most economic text books are
biased? If I were your
So you're punishing your students because most economic text books are
biased? If I were your student, I'd be pissed at you.
Joanna
Response Jim C: All texts are biased; the only persons not biased
(having preferences for certain outcomes, priorities etc) are those in
comas and/or without
The current explanation that job flight this response to improved technology races to
questions for me.
Virtually every economics textbook I have seen dismisses the idea that new technology
can destroy jobs. The most reputable counterargument came from David Ricardo in the
19th-century. Few
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Tomorrow, when I go
back to the classroom, as I have done on other occasions, each of my classes
will be told that during the course of the term, there will be four key lectures
whose content will most definitely be covered on exams. These lectures will be
total bullshit:
Michael Perelman wrote:
Supposedly, new technology lowers prices, which spurs new demand,
which reemploy as
the workers. I'm not saying I accept this argument, but I have not seen many
economists eating crow.
Several centuries of capitalist history are on the side of the
non-crow-eaters, no? I
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I give my students
the famous quote from Lenin (that's Vladimir not John) :"When it comes time to
hang the last capitalist, he is probably the one who sold the rope." I ask what
that means. Eventually, with some probing, they get the idea that what Lenin
meant through his
Supposedly, new technology lowers prices, which spurs new demand, which
reemploy as
the workers. I'm not saying I accept this argument, but I have not seen
many
economists eating crow.
___-
That's Panglossian political economy. The destruction or creation of
jobs is not a
Hi Michael,
I think the jury's still out on this one. In certain national contexts (usually
advanced capitalist ones), the economists are probably not eating crow.
(Basso's work shows that working-time is increasing in advanced capitalism) At
the global scale, (the only proper level to examine
That's fucked. You have all the power and you're using it to humiliate
your students. Great.
Joanna
Craven, Jim wrote:
Tomorrow, when I go back to the classroom, as I have done on other
occasions, each of my classes will be told that during the course of
the term, there will be four key lectures
cool it.
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 02:04:52PM -0800, joanna bujes wrote:
That's fucked. You have all the power and you're using it to humiliate
your students. Great.
Joanna
Craven, Jim wrote:
Tomorrow, when I go back to the classroom, as I have done on other
occasions, each of my classes
That's fucked. You have all the power and you're using it to humiliate
your students. Great.
Joanna
Response: I can see from your previous comments ( So you're punishing
your students because most economic text books are biased? If I were
your student, I'd be pissed at you. Joanna) that you are
That is the standard answer in the economic literature. What would have happened in
the post-World War II American economy without the federal government to prop up the
job market?
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:09:23PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:
Supposedly, new
Michael Perelman wrote:
That is the standard answer in the economic literature. What would
have happened in
the post-World War II American economy without the federal
government to prop up the
job market?
It's always some prop, isn't it? This idea that capitalism would have
failed 10, 40, 100,
My apologies, I thought you did not tell the students that some of the
lectures were bullshit.
Joanna
Craven, Jim wrote:
That's fucked. You have all the power and you're using it to humiliate
your students. Great.
Joanna
Response: I can see from your previous comments ( So you're punishing
your
Thank you. All of my exercises are designed to reward and teach those
who take an active interest in their education and to weed out--and deny
rewards to--those who don't. On another list, someone made the following
comment followed by my response. Please note that I am actually
diminishing my
I visited Jim Craven's classes (huge classes, and he has to teach a lot of
them to make ends meet) last December. The students were curious and asked
me good questions. They had an obvious affection for Jim and he for them
(Students wanted to see him after class, and he seemed overly
Certainly, I believe every word you say. His reaction to my
misunderstanding however spoke volumes too.
Joanna
MICHAEL YATES wrote:
I visited Jim Craven's classes (huge classes, and he has to teach a
lot of them to make ends meet) last December. The students were
curious and asked me good
Doug Henwood wrote:
joanna bujes wrote:
More interesting is the thesis that outsourcing is profitable for
hi-tech companies. I wonder how they figure out that profit. The very
large hi tech company I work for has outsourced a number of projects to
India and China. I know first hand that the
I visited Jim Craven's classes (huge classes, and he has to teach a lot of
them to make ends meet) last December. The students were curious and
asked me good questions.
Michael Yates
A couple of years ago when I was on the phone with Jim a lot discussing
Blackfoot and related issues, I often
Certainly, I believe every word you say. His reaction to my
misunderstanding however spoke volumes too.
Joanna
Yes, it is a kind of Blackfoot thing. When attacked, and it is clear
that the attack comes from someone not having properly read and
understood that which they were attacking, then the
Since you clearly don't want to read the actual
poll, let me supply some highlights for you. These
results don't sound like they're coming from people
too terrified to speak their minds.
Doug
Here is one input from one of those from that part of
the world, who is not terrified to speak his
While Zizek's behavior is reprehensible, especially given that his teaching
duties are almost certainly minimal, it is not uncommon that when teachers get
burned out, they start to take short cuts. These are often indirectly encouraged
by the administration which cuts funding for teaching,
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While Zizek's behavior is reprehensible, especially given that his
teaching duties are almost certainly minimal, it is not uncommon that when
teachers get burned out, they start to take short cuts. These are often
indirectly encouraged by the administration which
ravi wrote:
i am not an expert on the matter, so this is just my opinion: i believe
the above effect is temporary. programming is not difficult and it is
well suited for outsourcing. those going through outsourcing disaster
will learn from their mistakes... already, i know of many fellow indians
http://www.swans.com/
March 29, 2004 -- In this issue:
Note from the Editor:The new Iraqi Constitution was heralded as a great
achievement just a couple of weeks ago but they forgot their own Bill of
Rights. So, the Coalition Provisional Authority, which represents the best
democratic
Yeah, that's an incredible salary. I know some top flight programmers
with eons of experience...none of whom make more than 130,000.
Joanna
The article is probably bullshit. It reminds me of those articles about
auto workers who make that kind of money, or other skilled blue-collar
workers. It
http://www.fundrace.org/
--
Yoshie
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php, http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
*
In a message dated 3/28/2004 3:28:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's Panglossian political economy. The destruction or creation ofjobs is not a technical function, but a social one. The expulsion oflabor power from the production process is essential to
You're saying that writing a program or creating a software product in
three different countries is no different than creating a pre-fabricated
house in three different countries: the roof in the US, the window
frames in China, and the walls in India. I think though that fitting a
pre-fabricated
The great, sort of, and humbling, definitely, thing about a market
economy is that it puts a dollar sign alongside all endeavors and makes
them equivalent in that great democracy of the world market where
lawyers, guns, and money make sure your vote counts because they're
doing the counting.
So
joanna bujes wrote:
You're saying that writing a program or creating a software product in
three different countries is no different than creating a pre-fabricated
house in three different countries: the roof in the US, the window
frames in China, and the walls in India. I think though that
Ravi wrote:
in some cases, this complexity is
willful... take the current obsession with XML and building layers and
layers on top of it.
Sounds like the project I'm working on, which combines websphere, XML,
Struts, java and javascript. It has taken me a year to figure out how all
the pieces fit
ravi wrote:
come on now. its not about your job against my job, and i am not trying
to defend indian programmers or some such identity group. if i do go
back, i hope i will be more empowered to participate in the real world,
rather than have to sit in a cube and write uninspiring software.
No,
Just finished watching the two hour documentary on CBC Newsworld by
Oliver Stone on El Commendante, Fidel Castro, which I understand was
commissioned by HBO but censored in the United States because it was not
critical of Castro. (It has been subtitled, Lunch with Fidel).
Actually, it was very
While Michael is undoubtedly right, university administrations reward those
who do research and slight teaching. But that is no excuse for teachers
to neglect their moral responsibility to teach properly and to serve their
students. I think Jim was once a student of mine and I hope he never
Zizek has a life-long sinecure and subminimal teaching duties. If the
story is true, there is no excuse. On the other hand, if such is his
character, perhaps it is best that students get to know him through his
books rather than in person.
Joanna
paul phillips wrote:
While Michael is undoubtedly
Well, yeah. There's no comparing Moscow and say Yakutia. They're different worlds.
It's like comparing New York and Appalachia. Worse.
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