PAUL KRUGMAN: Bush's medical plan: Class warfare

2004-07-19 Thread Diane Monaco
Sunday, July 18, 2004 Bush's medical plan: Class warfare By PAUL KRUGMAN SYNDICATED COLUMNIST If past patterns are any guide, about one in three Americans will go without health insurance for some part of the next two years. They won't, for the most part, be the persistently poor, who a

Paul Krugman = Mark Jones?

2004-05-07 Thread Devine, James
OP-ED COLUMNIST/New York TIMES/May 7, 2004 The Oil Crunch By PAUL KRUGMAN Before the start of the Iraq war his media empire did so much to promote, Rupert Murdoch explained the payoff: "The greatest thing to come out of this for the world economy, if you could put it that way, would be

Re: Krugman on Greenspan and Bendien on Bujes

2004-03-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Joanna wrote: > It's funny how a rational centrist (Krugman) can sound like a raving > socialist these days. So what is the point of this ? This type of comment is useless in my view, and I will say why. What is the purpose, beyond trying to show how savvy or smart you are about

Re: Krugman on Greenspan

2004-03-02 Thread joanna bujes
It's funny how a rational centrist (Krugman) can sound like a raving socialist these days. Joanna Michael Pollak wrote: URL: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/02/opinion/02KRUG.html New York Times March 2, 2004 Maestro of Chutzpah By PAUL KRUGMAN T he traditional definition of chutzpah

Krugman on Greenspan

2004-03-02 Thread Michael Pollak
URL: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/02/opinion/02KRUG.html New York Times March 2, 2004 Maestro of Chutzpah By PAUL KRUGMAN T he traditional definition of chutzpah says it's when you murder your parents, then plead for clemency because you're an orphan. Alan Greenspan ha

[Fwd: [Marxism] Krugman and capitalist successes]

2003-12-01 Thread Louis Proyect
Original Message Subject: [Marxism] Krugman and capitalist successes Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:19:46 +1300 From: Philip Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the things ab

Re: Krugman on good news

2003-11-30 Thread Julio Huato
Paul Krugman wrote: "And there are signs of an economic takeoff in at least parts of India [...] every one of those development success stories was based on export-led growth." Then Michael Pollak made the following remark: "India wasn't. Exports are 10% of its economy, like

Re: Krugman on good news

2003-11-28 Thread Michael Pollak
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Krugman was quoted saying > Now we know that the club isn't that exclusive, after all. South Korea and > several smaller Asian economies have made a full transition to modernity. > China is still a poor country, but it has made astonishing progress. And > t

Re: Krugman on good news

2003-11-28 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Eubulides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Jeebus..] Quite intriquing that workers keep producing and producing, yet *we* appear to be in debt to other ruling classes of the world. I guess there's nothing left to do but to take over and run the means of production for ourselves. Wake up

Krugman on good news

2003-11-27 Thread Eubulides
[Jeebus..] [New York Times] November 28, 2003 OP-ED COLUMNIST The Good News By PAUL KRUGMAN I've heard it said that I should try, just once, to write something upbeat. Honestly, on the domestic front it's hard. Yes, the business cycle is looking up - but with the budget out

Re: Terrance McNally: Very good interview with Krugman

2003-11-17 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Good on you, LA ! J. - Original Message - From: "Michael Pollak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: [PEN-L] Terrance McNally: Very good interview with Krugman > Pen-l's favorite slagging target of y

Terrance McNally: Very good interview with Krugman

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Pollak
Pen-l's favorite slagging target of yesteryear now transformed into the intellectual's Michael Moore: URL: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17169 Michael

A Krugman book review

2003-11-05 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Review of BOoks, Volume 50, Number 18 · November 20, 2003 Strictly Business By Paul Krugman George W. Bush Bushwhacked: Life in George W. Bush's America by Molly Ivins and Lou Dubose Random House, 347 pp., $24.95 Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth b

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-02 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
"While conservative and liberal communities formulate their separate identities, [Americans] search for leaders to champion their way of life. They turn to pundits who are skilled in challenging opposing agenda's in the public realm. Conservatively, the Mainstream Personal Identifier (MPI) and libe

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-02 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Michael Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the working class can kiss my ass, i've got the > foreman's job at last... > michael hoover And now for a song about Mr. Block. First published in the 6 Mar 1913 edition (fifth edition) of the Industrial Worker "Little Red Songbook."

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-02 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/02/03 8:34 AM >>> One of the titles of a chapter in Michael Moore's new book is "Death to Horatio Alger." His premise is that just the dream of someday becoming rich undermines class solidarity. It really is the all-American dream, the "rags-to-riches" story. Troy "Devine,

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-02 Thread troy cochrane
One of the titles of a chapter in Michael Moore's new book is "Death to Horatio Alger." His premise is that just the dream of someday becoming rich undermines class solidarity. It really is the all-American dream, the "rags-to-riches" story.   Troy"Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ravi

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-02 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ken: > I don't smoke... But I think yer a bit harsh on our dyslexic > lawyer friend. I have nothing against Justin, Ken. The problem is not him but the "contract theory", which is a direct consequence of "western rationality". And contracts require lawyers. If it is not Justin, there will be some

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Kenneth Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should definitely support your local loon Nazi's > right to smoke > tobacco. (tobacco doused in lots of pesticide) Mike B) = * "the Council Republic is not the culmination

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-01 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
> Why is it that we generate so much more interest discussing personalities > rather than ideas? If you don't know that, why are you a socialist ? J.

Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Hey Justin – I will take a re-peek at the Dennis case. But I believe Black (and Douglas) were strongly against it. I believe Rutledge and Murphy were replaced by conservative Democrats. And Frankfurter and Jackson were a kind of reverse of what Eisenhower felt about Warren and Brennan. I guess it

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Why is it that we generate so much more interest discussing personalities rather than ideas? Why when a person takes a contrary postion, do we -- not just on this list -- find a need to denounce the person in general. I just heard Studs Turkel -- tape delay -- interviewd on KPFA discussing Dan B

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Devine, James
JKS writes:>I'd be proud to defend the First >Amendment ina NAzi case too.< I wrote: >if the gov't cracks down on the Nazis, they crack down on >the Left, too, most often in a bigger way. A first >amendment defense of the Nazis is indirectly >defending the Left. From: Kenneth Campbell Elementary

Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread Carl Remick
From: andie nachgeborenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... Roosevelt tried to pack the court, and failed. One of the former bad guy justices switched his view and started supporting the New Deal Or as was said at the time: A switch in time saves nine. Carl __

The Court and Free Speech: Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread andie nachgeborenen
t; -- Steven Wright > > > >-Original Message- > >From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of andie > >nachgeborenen > >Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:04 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [PEN-L] In defence of

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-01 Thread Carl Remick
Carl, I smoked a pipe for several decades before quitting -- and I would be afraid to add up how many thousands of dollars (not covered by insurance) I have spent on repairing (partly) the damage it did to my teeth. Right now, I've got a large gap in the front of my mouth (upper) which has cost me

Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [PEN-L] In defence of Krugman > > >Actually, no. Roosevelt tried to pack the court, and >failed. One of the former bad guy justices switched >his view and started supporting the New Deal. The >Roosevelt era court mainly supported expanded govt &g

Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Actually, no. Roosevelt tried to pack the court, and failed. One of the former bad guy justices switched his view and started supporting the New Deal. The Roosevelt era court mainly supported expanded govt power to regulate business, not primarily enhanced free speech and civil rights. Its most not

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>JKS writes:>I'd be proud to defend the First >Amendment ina NAzi case too.< > >if the gov't cracks down on the Nazis, they crack down on >the Left, too, most often in a bigger way. A first >amendment defense of the Nazis is indirectly >defending the Left. Elementary, my dear Mr. Devine. :) You k

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Sabri, yer gonna out live us all. Some Turkish hills thing. Worry not. I don't smoke... But I think yer a bit harsh on our dyslexic lawyer friend. You wrote: >Western rationality requires, or leads to, Justins of the world. Adults have the right to kill themselves, in any way they wish. As long

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-11-01 Thread paul phillips
deserve legal defence just as homocial murderers. No more, no less. But on the more important question of Krugman versus Stiglitz. To me there is no contest. Though I appreciate and forward Krugman's odd commentary, I tend to agree with his criticism is just neoclassic orthodoxy in critiq

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
After hearing Carrol's story and reminded of Mark Jones, I don't think my future looks that bright. Not a pipe smoker though, just cigarettes. Given my family history, most likely I will pass away because of lung cancer. Who says human beings are rational? What was that rationality of the Wester

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Eubulides
nent of which in the USA has > been protectionist officials of organized labor. If Krugman is not > advancing any kind of radical vision of change, neither are > "anti-globalization" activists and advocates of industrial policy and > strategic trade in the USA, whom Krugman criticizes. >

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
I think the problem with the Krugman phenomenon is not so much Krugman but the broader progressive movement. Because Krugman has written columns critical of the Bush administration he gets raised to the status of intellectual leader of the progressive movement--by progresives. Krugman came

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-10-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Carl, I smoked a pipe for several decades before quitting -- and I would be afraid to add up how many thousands of dollars (not covered by insurance) I have spent on repairing (partly) the damage it did to my teeth. Right now, I've got a large gap in the front of my mouth (upper) which has cost me

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-10-31 Thread Carrol Cox
Carl Remick wrote: > > > > No, as a pipe smoker I must say you're serving a worthy cause. In fact, I > think you should be serving in a pro bono capacity ;-) > Carl, I smoked a pipe for several decades before quitting -- and I would be afraid to add up how many thousands of dollars (not covered b

Re: Paul Krugman on GDP surge - additional comment

2003-10-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks. > An odd feature of the U.S. housing boom is that the rental index > hasn't gone up all that much - $46b gain between 2000 and 2001 > (latest available). The annual GDP tables have data on imputations - > specifically 8.21, at >

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Carl Remick
From: andie nachgeborenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I make my living in part defending tobacco companies, and I make a lot of money too -- not as much as Dees, but I'm getting there, if I stay here, I will someday. I must be a real scumbag. No, as a pipe smoker I must say you're serving a worthy cause.

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Michael Perelman
That is what I meant, but clearer than what I wrote. On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 01:08:20PM -0800, Devine, James wrote: > Michael Perelman writes: > >Stiglitz seems a bit different. He is much more of a pure academic who > was offended by the political hacks -- Doug would know better than I, but > t

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Devine, James
Michael Perelman writes: >Stiglitz seems a bit different. He is much more of a pure academic who was offended by the political hacks -- Doug would know better than I, but this is my impression. I also do not have the impression that he is someone who craves attention, although he does not shy awa

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Marty's note and many others are right on target. Krugman does not pretend to be a lefty. During the Clinton years, people attacked him here, and for good reason. Barkeley Rosser criticized his professional behavior -- quasi-plagiarism. Krugman attacks anyone who disagrees with him, o

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-10-31 Thread Devine, James
> > ravi: > > > michael moore when asked about his multi-million dollar new york > > > apartment responded that his blue-collar ex-neighbours (in clint > > > michigan) would be proud and happy for him. perhaps. me: > > On the Left, it used to be said that "nothing is too good > for the working c

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread joanna bujes
Wait a sec Justin. If you're making big bucks defending tabbacco, well that's understandable. Big tabbacco makes big bucks that they use to pay you. But if some guy is making big bucks from poor black people who think that he will defend them in discrimination/criminal suits and then spending all

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice oftargets

2003-10-31 Thread Carrol Cox
"Devine, James" wrote: > > ravi: > > michael moore when asked about his multi-million dollar new york > > apartment responded that his blue-collar ex-neighbours (in clint > > michigan) would be proud and happy for him. perhaps. > > On the Left, it used to be said that "nothing is too good for the w

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread ravi
andie nachgeborenen wrote: > My First Amendment prof was David Goldberger, who was > the ACLU lawyer in the Skokie-Nazi case. Sorry, youw > on;t find me condemning the Illinois ACLU for > defending the right of the Nazis to speak. I can ask > Colleen Connell (the Exec Dir of the Ill ACLU, anda > fr

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Carl Remick
From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jurriaan Bendien wrote: The question that needs to be asked is what we achieve by polemically writing off Krugman and calling him nasty names. Krugman is a very learned left-liberal economist capable of very good critical inquiry into the US econo

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of t...

2003-10-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Brian McKenna wrote: You have taught me so much -- via LBO and your radio show which I love to tune in via the net (I even once met you at the Socialist Scholars Conference in NY in the 80s. . .I believe on a panel w/ Kovel). . .but so as Cockburn taught me much. . . that's all a way of saying tha

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of t...

2003-10-31 Thread Brian McKenna
Doug, You have taught me so much -- via LBO and your radio show which I love to tune in via the net (I even once met you at the Socialist Scholars Conference in NY in the 80s. . .I believe on a panel w/ Kovel). . .but so as Cockburn taught me much. . . that's all a way of saying that I respect yo

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of t...

2003-10-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Brian McKenna wrote: I love Silverstein's work too. . .wanted to know more about your "shoot before aiming" remark, I assume about AC. . Yup, AC. Doug

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Louis Proyect
andie nachgeborenen wrote: How terrible, Dees makes soo much money, how dare he. People who work for good causesa re supposed to be POOR. You wanna guess how much Tigar makes? Or Kunstler made? I bet it wasa lot more than Dees. I wouldn't mind Dees getting big bucks if he was doing something usefu

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of t...

2003-10-31 Thread Brian McKenna
Doug, I love Silverstein's work too. . .wanted to know more about your "shoot before aiming" remark, I assume about AC. . . Brian McKenna

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread andie nachgeborenen
How terrible, Dees makes soo much money, how dare he. People who work for good causesa re supposed to be POOR. You wanna guess how much Tigar makes? Or Kunstler made? I bet it wasa lot more than Dees. Hey, Louis, I'm a corporate lawyer at a big law firm; I make my living in part defending tobacc

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Devine, James
JKS writes:>I'd be proud to defend the First Amendment ina NAzi case too.< if the gov't cracks down on the Nazis, they crack down on the Left, too, most often in a bigger way. A first amendment defense of the Nazis is indirectly defending the Left. Jim

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Louis Proyect
I invite pen-l'ers to look at the IRS forms for SPLC that are online at: http://www.splcenter.org/pdf/static/SPLC_IRS_990_2001.pdf It has total assets of $134 million! Dees makes $258,000 per year. The 3 people in charge of fundraising make a total of $300,000 per year. This is a big-time operati

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread andie nachgeborenen
My First Amendment prof was David Goldberger, who was the ACLU lawyer in the Skokie-Nazi case. Sorry, youw on;t find me condemning the Illinois ACLU for defending the right of the Nazis to speak. I can ask Colleen Connell (the Exec Dir of the Ill ACLU, anda friend) for your capitivating quote. I am

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread ravi
andie nachgeborenen wrote: > the ACLU and Amnbesty doesn't find that it's a > loser for fundraising purposes. > and to complete the circle: this is the same ACLU whose illinois chapter president was hanging out at a neo-nazi type gathering (captivating quotes on why the ACLU must truck with the ex

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Doug Henwood
andie nachgeborenen wrote: Silverstein might bother to learn something about the law before he starts to mouth off at lawyers who aren't doing what he thinks they ought. Postconviction capital defense is noble, but totally gruelling, emotionally exhausting, and extremely expensive. Ken knows what

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Silverstein might bother to learn something about the law before he starts to mouth off at lawyers who aren't doing what he thinks they ought. Postconviction capital defense is noble, but totally gruelling, emotionally exhausting, and extremely expensive. To give you an idea, in a non-capital cas

Re: In defence of Krugman ...

2003-10-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Jim wrote: >Now PK attacks only the right -- because there isn't much of a Left left. This is a sign of the rightward shift of the middle. That is exactly it, couldn't have said it better and I am not even an American. Question I am raising is, what is the response to that. J.

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Marty wrote: The danger > comes of course because [Krugman] is not advancing any kind of radical vision > of change. What bloody danger, for heaven's sake ? Who is creating the danger ? When two million humans die in Iraq because of the total effects of war destruction and economic c

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Devine, James
ravi: > michael moore when asked about his multi-million dollar new york > apartment responded that his blue-collar ex-neighbours (in clint > michigan) would be proud and happy for him. perhaps. On the Left, it used to be said that "nothing is too good for the working class." This applied to folk

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread ravi
andie nachgeborenen wrote: > Like I said, he attacked one of the US's most > effective civil liberties lawyers, who has put real > hurt on violent hate groups that have (pardon me for > getting personal here) killed and injured my friends > and their family, because he's not an ascetic and > doesn'

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread ravi
Louis Proyect wrote: > andie nachgeborenen wrote: > >>Attacking left liberals has been Cockburn's forte. >>He's run a long time smear job on Morris Dees of the >>Southern Poverty Law Center, a man who has done more >>to put the Klan and the Ayran Nations literally out of >>business than anyone else

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael P. wrote me privately stating that he thought Cockburn had attacked Dees as well. Since I couldn't find anything in the Nation archives or Lexis-Nexis, I just assumed that Ken Silverstein was the only critic of Dees. I have just found a Cockburn attack on Dees. It is a pip! The Dees Money M

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Doug Henwood
andie nachgeborenen wrote: Dees doesn't -- but maybe they don't like up to Kenny Boy's high standards. Ken's beef with Dees is that the SPLC has accumulated a large fortune which it hardly spends on anything but doing more direct mail and adding to the fortune. It refuses to take on capital punish

Re: In defence of Krugman ...

2003-10-31 Thread Devine, James
I didn't get to finish my e-mail. Now it's finished. > Doug writes: > >No, he's [PK's] not a radical, or a Marxist, or social > democrat even. But he > >doesn't pretend otherwise. ... > > Bill writes: >... The fact that "he doesn't > pretend otherwise" applies equally well to George Bush --- so

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Like I said, he attacked one of the US's most effective civil liberties lawyers, who has put real hurt on violent hate groups that have (pardon me for getting personal here) killed and injured my friends and their family, because he's not an ascetic and doesn't expect the young ;lawyers whow ork fo

Re: In defence of Krugman ...

2003-10-31 Thread Devine, James
Doug writes: >No, he's [PK's] not a radical, or a Marxist, or social democrat even. But he >doesn't pretend otherwise. ... Bill writes: >... The fact that "he doesn't pretend otherwise" applies equally well to George Bush --- so what?< Bush pretended to be a "compassionate conservative" and all t

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Martin Hart-Landsberg
I think the problem with the Krugman phenomenon is not so much Krugman but the broader progressive movement. Because Krugman has written columns critical of the Bush administration he gets raised to the status of intellectual leader of the progressive movement--by progresives. Krugman came

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Louis Proyect
andie nachgeborenen wrote: Attacking left liberals has been Cockburn's forte. He's run a long time smear job on Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a man who has done more to put the Klan and the Ayran Nations literally out of business than anyone else, because Dees doesn't live a life

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
> Krugman is not "left-liberal". He is a neo-liberal, appearing in > sharp distinction to the hard-core right-wingers that dominate public > policy presently. His critical inquiry is pretty shallow, consisting > mostly of currently calling Bush and his gang on their blata

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Jurriaan Bendien wrote: The question that needs to be asked is what we achieve by polemically writing off Krugman and calling him nasty names. Krugman is a very learned left-liberal economist capable of very good critical inquiry into the US economy and suggesting positive alternatives. I

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread andie nachgeborenen
poverty, unlike, uh, Cockburn . . . . Oops, I forgot, Cockburn lives pretty well. jks --- Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Krugman is very good at what he does. He's a sharp > polemicist, writes > very clearly about economics, and annoys the hell > out of the

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Bill Lear
On Friday, October 31, 2003 at 10:33:27 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes: >Krugman is very good at what he does. He's a sharp polemicist, writes >very clearly about economics, and annoys the hell out of the right. All true, for which he should be (and is, by me at least) applauded. >

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Krugman is very good at what he does. He's a sharp polemicist, writes very clearly about economics, and annoys the hell out of the right. No, he's not a radical, or a Marxist, or social democrat even. But he doesn't pretend otherwise. He's kind of like Anthony Lewis, only he wr

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread eatonak
I fully agree with the following view about Krugman and what to expect from him, politically and otherwise. Ahmet Tonak > > Krugman is not "left-liberal". He is a neo-liberal, appearing in > sharp distinction to the hard-core right-wingers that dominate public > policy pr

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-31 Thread Bill Lear
On Friday, October 31, 2003 at 04:07:09 (+0100) Jurriaan Bendien writes: >Alexander Cockburn, whom I traditionally respect and admire, now writes: > >"Krugman is a press agent, a busker, for Clintonomics. For him as for so >many others on the liberal side, the world only went bad

In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-10-30 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Alexander Cockburn, whom I traditionally respect and admire, now writes: "Krugman is a press agent, a busker, for Clintonomics. For him as for so many others on the liberal side, the world only went bad in January, 2001. If a Democrat, pretty much any Democrat conventional enough to win

Nailing Krugman

2003-10-30 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, October 30, 2003 CounterPunch Diary Paul Krugman: Part of the Problem By ALEXANDER COCKBURN Enter the world of Paul Krugman, a world either dark (the eras of Bush One and Bush Two), or bathed in light (when Bill was king). "What do you think of the French revolution?"

Krugman interview

2003-10-17 Thread Eubulides
http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=1460 The Worldly Philosopher Interview with Paul Krugman BY BARBARA BELEJACK

Krugman on Marshall Plan

2003-09-30 Thread Bill Lear
Today's Krugman: Funds were administered by an agency independent of the White House, and Marshall promised that priorities would be determined by Europeans, not Americans. What happened to the promise? Was it kept, or was the money spent to "encourage" people to vote f

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
Nomi: > PUHCA should not have been repealed. Doing so makes it > less likely any energy or utility company will focus on > low margin business like transmission. Stated differently, this goes back to what Diane was claiming. Electric power in transmission is a quasi-public good: High fixed cos

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
What I still do not understand is how you can have a free market in electric power provision. What is "free" about it ? As far as I can see, electricity supply operates on the basis of a guaranteed market and a more or less monopoly position, from which consumers cannot withdraw, and in which they

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-03 Thread Michael Perelman
>From a more unlikely source: Wessel, David. 2003. "A Lesson From the Blackout: Free Markets Often Need Rules." Wall Street Journal (28 August): p. A 1. "The blackout of 2003 offers a simple but powerful lesson: Markets are a great way to organize economic activity, but they need adult supervis

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-03 Thread Devine, James
Nomi writes: >Right. Deregulation with a) more responsible federal oversight and b) a set of rules which would create a 'more robust transmission system' equals regulation, period.< I tell my students in Money & Banking that the regulation vs. deregulation debate is a snare and a delusion. Rather

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-03 Thread nomi prins
t of the very companies it's supposed to > be policing. Enough said. -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eugene Coyle Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Krugman on faux ferc fines This is a

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-03 Thread Bill Lear
On Tuesday, September 2, 2003 at 22:04:44 (-0400) Michael Pollak writes: >... > There is a theoretical case for a deregulated electricity market. But > making such a market work, it's now clear, requires at least three > preconditions. First, it requires a robust transmission system, yet >

Re: Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-02 Thread Eugene Coyle
This is a good column by Krugman but he still hasn't gotten over his training. He argues that there is a theoretical case" for electric market deregulation when there is no such case. If you study enough Micro theory you are screwed for life. Gene Coyle Michael Pollak wrote: The New

Krugman on faux ferc fines

2003-09-02 Thread Michael Pollak
The New York Times September 2, 2003 Another Friday Outrage By PAUL KRUGMAN W hen the E.P.A. makes our air dirtier, or the Interior Department opens a wilderness to mining companies, or the Labor Department strips workers of some more rights, the announcement always comes late on

Re: Krugman contra Cheney

2003-03-27 Thread soula avramidis
Is Mr cheney trying to keep his youngest daughter from joining the human shields in baghdad? I have read that in two nespaper clippings.  Ian Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

Krugman contra Cheney

2003-03-27 Thread Ian Murray
[New York Times] March 28, 2003 Delusions of Power By PAUL KRUGMAN They considered themselves tough-minded realists, and regarded doubters as fuzzy-minded whiners. They silenced those who questioned their premises, even though the skeptics included many of the government's own analysts.

Re: Krugman

2003-03-26 Thread Michael Pollak
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Devine, James wrote: > it's part of PK's attack on the Bushists That's Bushits! Bushits! It makes more sense when you say it out loud. Michael

RE: Krugman

2003-03-26 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36121] Krugman it's interesting about Krugman and how he shows how the meaning of a concept can actually go from being reactionary to sort of progressive -- depending on the socio-political context. I'd say that the key concept in PK's columns these days is

Krugman

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Krugman seems to be getting stronger and stronger. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/25/opinion/25KRUG.html -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Krugman contra Greenspan part II

2003-02-14 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34734] Krugman contra Greenspan part II It's amazing that anyone who's half-intelligent, such as Greenspan, would like Ayn Rand (though her novels do have "narrative pull," the ability to induce us to keep reading if we skip the speeches).* How could a

RE: Krugman contra Greenspan part II

2003-02-14 Thread Max B. Sawicky
On this score I think G-span is more right than Krugman. Of course in the present context G is helping whatever Bush wants to do, but the same reasoning would apply to a Dem who wanted to build temples of social welfare. We've been past the point of no return before, and returned. Ac

Krugman contra Greenspan part II

2003-02-13 Thread Ian Murray
[the Ayn Rand quote is hilarious, as it's the law of identity, or in information theory, redundancy.] [New York Times] February 14, 2003 On the Second Day, Atlas Waffled By PAUL KRUGMAN Dear Alan Greenspan: After reading your recent testimony, I'd like to share some Objectivist

Krugman contra Greenspan

2003-02-06 Thread Ian Murray
[New York Times] February 7, 2003 Is the Maestro a Hack? By PAUL KRUGMAN It's probably wishful thinking, but some people hope that the old Alan Greenspan - the man we used to respect - will make a return appearance next week. During the Clinton years Mr. Greenspan became an icon of f

RE: the Krugman advantage

2002-11-26 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:32552] the Krugman advantage it's an okay article, but I sincerely doubt that PK will receive the Nobel Prize in economics. His NYT column is in some ways a consolation prize. Not only is PK controversial (doing a job that economists aren't supposed to do), bu

Re: the Krugman advantage

2002-11-25 Thread Michael Perelman
The article was excellent. I am delighted that he is bashing the right, just as I am saddened by the recent recruits to the right that we have discussed earlier. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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