Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Right, but since there are known bugs in Sierra perhaps MozServices is hitting one of them. In our case we hit a bug in poll() which is a bit surprising and apparently the bug is hitting Apple's own curl implementation -- see discussion here[1]... Dale [1]

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

2016-10-21 16:20 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov : > 2016-10-21 16:15 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > >> > I would kindly ask for patience. What is perhaps less clear is that >> this editor is in the critical path of the GT project and we are committed >> to

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Hi Dale 2016-10-22 1:20 GMT+02:00 Dale Henrichs : > Denis, > > Sierra seems to have some issues. A couple weeks ago one of our users ran > into a problem with Pharo3.0 and Sierra > Pharo works fine. When I first time load Sparta everything works well. I am not

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Denis, Sierra seems to have some issues. A couple weeks ago one of our users ran into a problem with Pharo3.0 and Sierra --- Esteban jumped on that pretty quickly, but then we discovered some additional issues with GemStone and Sierra -- in our case it was a known bug in Sierra and we are

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

2016-10-19 18:06 GMT+02:00 Aliaksei Syrel : > > It can be bootstrapped with the following script: > > Metacello new > baseline: 'Sparta'; > repository: 'github://syrel/sparta:v1.1/src'; > load: #file:core > > Strange crash detected. I just execute twice this script and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

On 10/21/2016 07:30 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: Dale, Am 21.10.2016 um 16:12 schrieb Dale Henrichs >: Norbert, I didn't realize that you were claiming that the new text model for Sparta was (potentially) inferior.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Actually you are wrong, its not hard to use C libraries from Pharo. UFFI is not a restart, its a continuation of Nativeboost , they are very similar. Pharo FFI, whether its the old FFI, Alien, Nativeboost or UFFI, is more or less the same. In the end an FFI is defined by C syntax , Pharo UFFI

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 07:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > The current (!) complaint is rather based on the fact that everything > regarding the graphics backend, widget and tools appears sometimes as an > indefinite loop of reinventing stuff and improving and never get the job

Re: [Pharo-dev] Git versions on CI slaves

On 21/10/2016 15:04, Damien Pollet wrote: On 21 October 2016 at 15:47, Pavel Krivanek > wrote: The main problem are the long-term supported Linux distributions like Debian or CentOS. Even Debian stable has git 2.1 so I'd say

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

> On 21 Oct 2016, at 17:19, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> >> On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:43, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>> I would kindly ask for patience. What is perhaps less clear is that this >>> editor is in the critical path

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

> On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:43, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Tudor Girba-2 wrote >> I would kindly ask for patience. What is perhaps less clear is that this >> editor is in the critical path of the GT project and we are committed to >> deliver an editor that actually works. We

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

2016-10-21 16:44 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > If I remember correctly on side scrolling the vm generates "ctrl + ←" and > "ctrl + →" keystroke events. Then some morph listens to them and switches > focus. > I hope with SDL it will be normal events

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > I would kindly ask for patience. What is perhaps less clear is that this > editor is in the critical path of the GT project and we are committed to > deliver an editor that actually works. We are still investigating > different paths, both on the low level (like with Rope)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

I can understand that adding an option may be complicated, and that's why I'm asking if anyone actually need this, because otherwise we can just remove that functionality. Uko Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > This has been a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

> On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Dale, > >> Am 21.10.2016 um 16:12 schrieb Dale Henrichs >> >: >> >> Norbert, >> >> I didn't realize that you were claiming that the new text

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

This has been a problem for a very long time, it also happens with the magic mouse. It feels like there should be an option to disable interpreting side scrolling. > On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:44, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > > If I remember correctly on side scrolling the vm

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

If I remember correctly on side scrolling the vm generates "ctrl + ←" and "ctrl + →" keystroke events. Then some morph listens to them and switches focus. Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:31, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-10-21 15:56 GMT+02:00 Yuriy

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Clement, > > Thanks for raising this question. > > In short, Sparta is inspired from Athens and it has a similar structure. > So, there is an in-image interface of the canvas, and there is a concrete > implementation

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

2016-10-21 15:56 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > Ok, > > there is a problem that when you use trackpad with pharo and you scroll > something strange happens. And it was documented that when you scroll > sideways it’s registered as ctrl + arrow click and it switches focus. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Dale, > Am 21.10.2016 um 16:12 schrieb Dale Henrichs > : > > Norbert, > > I didn't realize that you were claiming that the new text model for Sparta > was (potentially) inferior. > The other day you were expressing sadness about having to use the newer >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

I think that the concept of a LTS will become useful at one point. Like, every 3 versions or so. On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > Norbert, > > I didn't realize that you were claiming that the new text model for Sparta > was

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

2016-10-21 16:15 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > I would kindly ask for patience. What is perhaps less clear is that this > editor is in the critical path of the GT project and we are committed to > deliver an editor that actually works. We are still investigating different >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Hi, > On Oct 21, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > > 2016-10-21 15:21 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > but at the rate we > > reinvent the wheel, I often fear that I will be retired from programming > > before we have a sane text model :/ > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

I have also problem in Finder when I scroll results for example… > On 21 Oct 2016, at 16:08, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > Hi Yuriy. > > I just want to say that I feel completely same. > And I am sure that problem with Nautilus. I am working on remote browser > where I

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Norbert, I didn't realize that you were claiming that the new text model for Sparta was (potentially) inferior. The other day you were expressing sadness about having to use the newer version of Metacello (which is *only* 3 years old), so I assumed that you were just being generally cranky

Re: [Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

Hi Yuriy. I just want to say that I feel completely same. And I am sure that problem with Nautilus. I am working on remote browser where I just use FastTable and never saw any problem with scrolling. 2016-10-21 15:56 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > Ok, > > there is a problem

Re: [Pharo-dev] Git versions on CI slaves

On 21 October 2016 at 15:47, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > The main problem are the long-term supported Linux distributions like > Debian or CentOS. Even Debian stable has git 2.1 so I'd say it's a non-problem. -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ]

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Hi Norbert, It is not ignored at all. Cheers, Doru > On Oct 21, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Dale, > > I was not arguing against evolution. I was refering to the fact that work of > others is mostly ignored just to come up with a potential weaker solution.

[Pharo-dev] Again about scrolling with a trackpad

Ok, there is a problem that when you use trackpad with pharo and you scroll something strange happens. And it was documented that when you scroll sideways it’s registered as ctrl + arrow click and it switches focus. Now it seems that on Siera it became worse because now I cannot normally

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

2016-10-21 15:21 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > but at the rate we > > reinvent the wheel, I often fear that I will be retired from programming > > before we have a sane text model :/ > > I would kindly ask for patience. What is perhaps less clear is that this > editor is in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Dale, I was not arguing against evolution. I was refering to the fact that work of others is mostly ignored just to come up with a potential weaker solution. Norbert > Am 21.10.2016 um 15:34 schrieb Dale Henrichs > : > > Norbert, > > It is also called

Re: [Pharo-dev] Git versions on CI slaves

The -C option changes the Git working directory and it is used in GitFileTree on general level. The main question that we need to answer is what version of Git (or libgit) will be supported and then take decision if we should update slaves or modify our code. The main problem are the long-term

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Hi Clement, Thanks for raising this question. In short, Sparta is inspired from Athens and it has a similar structure. So, there is an in-image interface of the canvas, and there is a concrete implementation through the plugin (based on Moz2D). To target a completely in-image rendering, it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Git versions on CI slaves

So what is the path to go? Shall we update the slaves to use the newer version or should we see how to remove that option? BTW, the -C option is in which git command? 2016-10-21 11:20 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek : > Hi, > > we have a problem with current

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

Norbert, It is also called evolution ... with each step forward new possibilities are revealed and often the old (current) way of doing things needs to change to better leverage these new possibilities ... and evolution is required[4]. Change is also painful and keeping up with an

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 4:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Denis Kudriashov wrote >> I look at code and it seems you implemented another one new text model? >> Why >> you not use TxText? > > Argh. I know it's bad form to complain about gifts, A bit :). > but at the

[Pharo-dev] Git versions on CI slaves

Hi, we have a problem with current MonticelloFileTree (and Iceberg) on our CI slaves because it requires option -C that was introduced in version 1.8.5 or something like so but our slaves have older Git versions (1.7). -- Pavel

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

On 21/10/16 04:00, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Denis Kudriashov wrote I look at code and it seems you implemented another one new text model? Why you not use TxText? Argh. I know it's bad form to complain about gifts, but at the rate we reinvent the wheel, I often fear that I will be retired from

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

On 19/10/16 18:06, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: Examples are on class side of: MozExamples, MozTextExamples Error: could not coerce arguments primSetAttributeEnum: anEnumValue index: anIndex ^ self ffiCall: #(void moz2d_filter_node_set_attribute_int(self, FFIExternalEnumeration anIndex,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Sparta v1.1

> Am 21.10.2016 um 04:00 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris : > > Denis Kudriashov wrote >> I look at code and it seems you implemented another one new text model? >> Why >> you not use TxText? > > Argh. I know it's bad form to complain about gifts, but at the rate we > reinvent

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