, David Röthlisberger wrote:
I fixed O2 to make it work in latest Pharo.
Please test.
Cheers,
David
I vote for fixing O2!
On 05 Jul 2010, at 11:16, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
It is not clear what we (or at least I) should do.
Maintaining two browsers is clearly not an option.
Cheers,
Alexandre
. Alexandre Bergel and David Röthlisberger as I am
aware. I cc'ed them.
Cheers
Mariano
The method Collection asSortedArray has been deprecated.
Use asArray sort
The method Collection asSortedArray has been deprecated.
Use asArray sort
The method Boolean and:and:and:and: has been deprecated
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package:'ConfigurationOfO2';
load.
((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfO2) project version: '1.0') load: 'Dev'
That gives me an error:
ah, there was an error in the dev spec group, I fixed this.
Mariano,
OR2PackageBrowser does not open, it lacks a defaultRootNode method
returning other than nil.
Is the focus mainly on the O2* browsers, or should OR2* also work?
How did you spot this problem? From within the O2 browser, OR2PackageBrowser
works.
OR2PackageBrowser is not meant to be used
Hi Adrian,
However, there are 6 undeclared classes referenced in the code.
ok, I fixed these undeclared references.
Also 2 tests have errors and one fails.
Which tests fail? I only got one error in a test which I fixed now.
Cheers,
David
On Jan 19, 2010, at 23:11 , Mariano Martinez
in my PharoCore-1.0-10505 image I had #testSmartGroupSwitch that failed and
#testExtensionNodes and #testStyling that errored.
ah, then probably I fixed the other test methods by fixing the undeclared
references.
Thanks,
David
On Jan 21, 2010, at 16:09 , David Röthlisberger wrote:
Hi
Hi Fernando,
Then i would ask the O2 developers, why is the fork needed? Just curious,
because if 02 copies a lot from OB, to add more functionality why that extra
features cant be part of OB?
We didn't fork O2 from OB for the longest time. Instead what is in O2 now was
just a
package
May be you can contact david probably on holidays to see how we can
make progress?
I know that we can publish in david repository so may be a lot of
the problems are simple glicth.
Having a configuration for O2 would be good.
What I am not sure, David, can you confirm
Anyway I think this is a real bug. Most people just download the image that
it is in the website. And that image has this bug. So I will let the bug
status as accepted.
Definitely:
- O2-Refactory has to be fixed to work with the latest refactoring code.
- O2 should remove
Same applies on the Pharo by Example book. Is it
already available as PDF or lulu.com book?
coming really soon.
I would like to hear about david too since there is an impact with the
browser.
What do you need to know exactly for the book, besides the things we discussed
yesterday?
OK then we should ask david if
- he addressed the check removal
- found the problems with the menus?
The check removal I addressed, but the menu problems not yet.
I will be away the next three weeks, I can't work on this during that period.
But I
will look at it when I'm back (Aug
,
David
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Cc: Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.ch
Subject: feedback
could you name
Lukas fixed OB too. So may be you should load the latest code.
I did that in the category based browser only, David probably has to
merge these changes into the package browser.
ok, I did so.
This means that we do not check for this scary selectors anymore on method
compile.
David
Stef
Hi Reinout
What is the status of the dev-image? As delivered the tools are broken
(because context menus on the source pane raise an UHE that is induced
by OB-Enhancements, issue 904), is it actively used by the main
committers or is the core image the place to be?
Even more
I was playing with compiledMethod and MethodReference and it would be
great if they could be more
polymorphic:
MethodReferencemethodClass
^ self actualClass
It will probably not do any harm, but why should a MethodReference be
polymorphic with a compiled method?
like that we
Hi Hernan,
thanks for your fixes!
Some comments of mine:
All the rest are OB related.
4) When pressing the mouse right button (on windows) I had a error
saying OBTextSelection does not understand #isClassNode, so I
implemented returning false. Again, I did not verify if an
Hi Alex,
When I load a Monticello package, I would really love to see it at the
top of the list. Maybe a we could have
1 - Modified packages
2 - Loaded Packages
3 - Base system
ok, I could do this.
Or considering a loaded package as a modified package, ie. showing it in the
same list at
Hi Alex,
Is there an easy way to capture windows related events such as
resizing and hiding ?
I was seeking for the same things just last week...
For collapsing and expanding using the tool buttons in the window's task bar,
the
methods #collapse and #expand of SystemWindow get executed.
ScriptLoader loadSuperOB in pharo #10300 is also broken.
Evaluate it and click on the UML diagram in the new browser
after selecting a class - crashed since class UMLEnhClassDiagram
is missing...
ok, thanks for letting us know.
We updated the diagram to use the new Mondrian for Squeak
Hi,
You can post the bug notification to omnibrowser-...@googlegroups.com and/or
upload
your patch to http://source.wiresong.ca/ob. Thanks.
Concerning this particular bug:
I don't understand what you mean with 'cancel button'? Where do you get such a
button, what is its behavior compared to
Hi,
Alex and me did some optimizations for the OmniBrowser framework.
We focused on optimizing the updating of browser windows upon code changes
(recompilation, recategorization, removing, doIts, etc.). Such browser updates
are
now an order of magnitude faster than before.
For details, have a
Hi Torsten,
Yes - it gives a #DNU for #longDescriptions after loading into the
newest pharo image (#10259)
But you can easily implement OBCodeTabPanel#longDescriptions like this:
longDescriptions
^#()
That should work for now...
yes, I did this change in my image in all OB
wiresong
project: 'ob';
install: 'OB-Algernon'.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:48 AM, David Röthlisberger
squ...@webcitas.ch wrote:
I am trying to see the senders of a message. I select
startsWith: in a
workspace - right button - extended
I am trying to see the senders of a message. I select startsWith: in a
workspace - right button - extended search - senders of it and I get
a wallback.
I cannot reproduce this.
What kind of image do you use? Looks like a pharo-dev; but which version?
Did you update it manually to 10256?
Hi Alex,
Each OBNode understand the message definition. In the first version of
OB, this definition method is supposed to return an instance of
OBDefinition or one of its subclass.
I saw a way to have a graphical object instead of the text pane. What
is the trick to achieve this?
What
Have you tried the following?
TransferMorph allInstances do: [:ea | ea delete]
or:
Utilities cleanseOtherWorldlySteppers
David
from
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-December/133369.html
HTH,
Adrian
On Mar 16, 2009, at 17:17 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
No,
I just wanted to fix the width of the mercury panel, but this doesn't seem to
work in
Pharo. The width specified for one component in table layout doesn't prevent
the next
cell to take the same space...
Don't know how to fix this, so I removed the fixed width. Now it works, but the
ugly
I just wanted to fix the width of the mercury panel, but this doesn't seem
to work in
Pharo.
It also doesn't work on Squeak 3.9.
For me it worked well, like a charm.
What was the behavior you got in Squeak?
What other packages have you loaded?
The width specified for one component in
What other packages have you loaded?
The whole dev-image, generated from scratch.
hm, maybe then it's actually caused by the interplay with another package that
I
haven't loaded.
I will look at that.
For the moment I'd say just use the versions in the Universe to build the dev
images.
- evaluate ScriptLoader loadOBApha in latest #10246
- open a new browser and use OBPackageBrowserAdapter
- in the browser select a package, then a class and click on the
UML Diag. in the button pane
You should see a red rectangle with a yellow cross (draing error)
due to a DNU on nil
- evaluate ScriptLoader loadOBApha in latest #10246
- open a new browser and use OBPackageBrowserAdapter
- in the browser select a package, then a class and click on the
UML Diag. in the button pane
You should see a red rectangle with a yellow cross (draing error)
due to a DNU on nil
Just curious: Did you load this versions by hand? Because those versions of
OB are
still alpha, so we have to expect dev-dev behavior in those. ;)
pharo-dev is now based on #loadOBAlpha.
ah.
Hm, not sure whether this is convenient. I mean every commit to the OB
repository has
to be
Damien, do you know where this selectors get defined? Is there an external
dependency
in DynamicProtocols, do we need to load something else to get these methods?
They are in the ClassSelectorsSet package on SqueakSource. I've just
integrated them inside OB-Enhancements.
Thanks, Damien!
ps: David, concerning the graph button bar in OB, I'll suggest showing
it only in the comment view.
It depends... I seldom press the comment button, except if there is a
comment in it, which is rare.
yes, I also think it would be too hidden there.
What would be possible is to add a
OB-Tools-dkh.62
OmniBrowser-dr.441
OB-Standard-dr.339
OB-Enhancements-dr.310
Just curious: Did you load this versions by hand? Because those versions of OB
are
still alpha, so we have to expect dev-dev behavior in those. ;)
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Hi Alex,
When I accept methods definition in OB, I have some printout:
ERROR: SAXCModule classsuperSenderSelectors
ERROR: SAXCModule classoverridesSelectors
ERROR: SAXCModule classconflictsSelectors
ERROR: SAXCModule classsuppliedSelectors
Maybe this is related to the dynamic protocol
Hi Cédrick,
As I need to draw a PERT diagram, I decided to give Mondrian a try.
I had a version (ported by Lukas [1]) used in OB which I started to
use and read doc (code doc :) ). And I saw that Alexandre (Bergel) is
working on improving another version [2].
So, which one to use
Hi
First of all, I did not authored this change. David did it. I guess
this was a request emanated by a bunch of people.
Yes.
Personally, the only reason why I am happy with the auto-focus, is by
pressing Cmd-T to run tests. I find this quite convenient to simply
accept a method,
of commands.
David
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
bschwab AT anest DOT ufl DOT edu
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Omnibrowser gets installed, where it should not. Where is the
definition of this Universe stored?
Without thinking and checking: ShoutOmnibrowser depends on
Omnibrowser, that's why OB is installed.
What I don't understand: Why does Universe load the OmniBrowser dependency when
there
is
What I don't understand: Why does Universe load the OmniBrowser dependency
when there
is already a newer version of OmniBrowser installed in this image? I think it
shouldn't do that. Does Universe not check whether the version number
installed is
higher than the latest one defined in
Hi Alex,
Apparently, what is loaded by ScriptLoaderloadOBAlpha cannot be
opened. OBPackageBrowsertopPanel DNU
It would be great to fix this...
I don't get this error.
The method you mention is in OBCodeBrowser in pkg OB-Standard, maybe this
package
didn't get updated when you loaded
: 'eCompletion';
addPackage: 'eCompletionOmniBrowser';
addPackage: 'eCompletion-Traits';
install.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2009, at 11:17, David Röthlisberger wrote:
Hi Alex,
Apparently, what is loaded
it was because he
has
locally changed something in that particualr package (I guess it was
OB-Morphic), so
that's why the package didn't get updated. But I guess this is not the case
here.
David
On 18 Feb 2009, at 11:51, David Röthlisberger wrote:
I obtained the error by taking a fresh a 10231
I just discovered that clicking on the icon near a testing method in
the browser launches the test.
Excellent!
:)
New day - new discovery! :)
yes, that's why life is interesting every single day. ;)
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When I load that in the latest image I get a topPanel DNU
I do not understand how to fix it.
See the latest two threads of Alex.
The problem lies not in OB, but in how it gets loaded. Something changed in
this
process, related to Universe, but we do not yet know what exactly.
David
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Alexandre Bergel
alexandre.ber...@inria.fr wrote:
Omnibrowser gets installed, where it should not. Where is the
definition of this Universe stored?
Without thinking and checking: ShoutOmnibrowser depends on
Omnibrowser, that's why OB is installed.
yes,
Looks threaded with Mail on OSX
With Thunderbird too (OSX).
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Hi Simon
Using the latest pharo dev 10231dev09.02.1, I cant use the search bar
anymore. I got a OBEnhancementMetaNode(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #fan:
I fixed this in latest OBAlpha.
Can you check if it works for you too?
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#isActive would probably better be called #isVisible.
yeah, that's true.
So #isActive in the context of a command tells you whether this command is
present
for the given entity and #isEnabled whether it's also selectable.
For an example see 'redo' of OB-Refactory. If there is no redo-action
Also, note, that you need only one instance of such tree in image .
You don't have to build this tree over and over again for each browser
window on screen :)
In a way, yes.
But then OB would basically do what the system itself should do, namely
modeling
packages. I would rather invest in
When I create new class with a new subcategory for an existing
package, the OBbrowser is not refreshed (the subcategory is not listed).
Maybe this is something that could be easily fixed ?
This is probably because the class cats are cached now in OB...
I will have a look at that.
David
containing a halt, where we don't care about the senders of those messages.
David
On Feb 9, 2009, at 16:12, David Röthlisberger wrote:
Hi Oscar,
If I enable halos and explore the morphs, I see that the first one
has
as its model an OBImplementorsBrowser, and the second
To get this you need to update ImageForDevelopers and OB itself to the
latest versions.
Would be good if someone could test and harvest these changes.
Thank you for updating ImageForDevelopers. I saw you also updated the
Squeak branch, is that an error?
No, I also use this in Squeak.
Using the latest pharo dev 10231dev09.02.1, I cant use the search bar
anymore. I got a OBEnhancementMetaNode(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #fan:
Latest I check (10211), it works. Is it a known bug?
yeah, I'm aware of that one and will fix it soon.
David
Thanks David. Let me know, I am ready to test again
I fixed it.
You can give it a try using OBAlpha.
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Hi Igor,
OB is quite complex thing, and its hard to understand what it does for
outsider :)
I just identified a few points, which can improve rendering speed by a
certain amount:
[...]
- default.
60 ms
- with override in SystemWindowdrawDropShadowOn: aCanvas to do nothing:
51 ms
As for,
3.3% {2ms} ByteString class(String class)new:
Total count of ByteStringnew: calls during
GlobalCounter reset.
self fullDrawOn: World assuredCanvas.
GlobalCounter counters copy inspect
is 7146,
which again makes me look suspicious at OB here.. Hey! Are we drawing,
or
But again, there is no excuse in doing this each time you need a tree.
Thanks to system notifier we have a ways to determine when category
tree needs to be rebuilt, so it can be built once and stay cached
until user add/remove/rename category.
yes, right. Packages are cached for a long time
Igor Stasenko schrieb:
2009/2/10 David Röthlisberger squ...@webcitas.ch:
But again, there is no excuse in doing this each time you need a tree.
Thanks to system notifier we have a ways to determine when category
tree needs to be rebuilt, so it can be built once and stay cached
until user add
Hi Oscar,
If I enable halos and explore the morphs, I see that the first one has
as its model an OBImplementorsBrowser, and the second an
OBMethodListBrowser. Why not simply use the latter? I searched for
references to both, but did not immediately see how to change the
behaviour
The problem is that when you code in the core then you should not have
the other packages loaded
or they should saved in the pharo repository.
Damien could you modify the scriptloader to use the universe to load RB?
I modified it.
The reason why this method exists is that people can
- Apple+B does not work on methods anymore.
Yes
Apple-N neither on method list
Under which configuration?
I tested in pharo-dev 10205 using latest OB alpha. There it works for me.
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buttons etc.). These
buttons also.
ok, I will check that.
Thanks,
David
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*Sent:* Friday, 30 January, 2009 3:17:46 PM
*Subject:* Re
Running ScriptLoader loadOB fails at some point because it tries to load
http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/OB-Enhancements-dr.291
instead of http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/OB-Enhancements-dr.291.mcz
Fixed, thank you.
Thanks!
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OB buttons - David and I will get there eventually!
yep.
I integrated your patch, but it needs some fine-tuning.
There are still places where OB directly sets button colors. This is easy to
fix.
The bigger problem is that with your patch we get problems in all other systems
not
using
Hi Adrian,
Furthermore, In the OB Browser there are two types of blue buttons. It
would be nice to have a consistent style for buttons.
What exactly do you mean with two styles of blue buttons? One style for
instance / ?
/ class buttons and different one for browse, hierarchy, variables,
what you want for Polymorph or not.
It's enough when you load latest OB-Morphic to get it.
David
Found the correct one now... attached.
Regards, Gary.
- Original Message - From: David Röthlisberger
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To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Sent: Thursday, January
I meant the two different styles of blue buttons that you see on the
screenshot below.
Is this the latest version I am looking at?
no, can you execute 'ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha' to get the latest version?
David
On Jan 30, 2009, at 16:01 , David Röthlisberger wrote:
Hi Adrian
Hi Gary,
Not heard from David since I emailed on 30th Dec about getting OB to be
less hardcoded about direct use of model colours, along with having
buttons changed to PluggableButtonMorphPlus (to use enablement rather
than on/off state to indicate enablement)...
yep, sorry, I was busy
If I start from a core 10201, and apply updates to 10205, then do:
ScriptLoader loadSuperOB, and then
ScriptLoader loadEcompletion,
Maybe this is because loadSuperOB already loads eCompletion along with
extensions to
make it work in OB. Probably what happens when you load eCompletion a
OBClassAwareNodeallCategories depends on the class Vocabulary which
does not seem to be present anymore.
ok, I fixed this method to not use Vocabulary anymore. (OB-Standard-dr.383)
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Did you check whether other parts used Vocabulary?
ok, there was another reference that I removed as well.
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Hi Stef,
David in the latest OBAlpha I could not create a package I got a
iconsAt: DNU
yeah, this is fixed (see my other mail to the list)
Else if would be great that when we click on the icons we can rerun
the test from there or debug them :)
okay, this is done too.
You can click on any
I'm using 3.8.18beta1U, there it works:
http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/mac/Squeak%203.8.18beta1U.app.zip
David
Which VM should I use, and where can I find it?
I have been using Squeak 3.8.12beta4U.app
- on
On Dec 15, 2008, at 14:20, Damien Cassou wrote:
You could try with the latest VM
OBAlpha breaks on me when I want to define a new package.
Problems with icons
ok, thanks for letting me know.
There was a bigger problem behind this one, related to the tree.
It is fixed now, you can get the fix with #loadOBAlpha.
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Hi Stef,
I found a bug :)
when you let the mouse over a class icon (showing some broken tests)
DNU testMorePassedLabel
Thanks, fixed now.
Else if would be great that when we click on the icons we can rerun
the test from there or debug them :)
ok, I will implement this.
David
Hi Gary,
If David is up for it I'll be happy to work with him to help make OB more
Polymorph-friendly... just a few changes required to help things appear more
consistent.
yes, of course!
Just let me know what kind of changes need to be done and then we can
work on them together.
Cheers,
Hi Hilaire,
OB was using #isKindOf:orOf: but it's gone
thanks a lot, I commited your patch to OB-Standard-dr.379 at
source.wiresong.ca/ob.
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Hi Lukas,
Did you receive this? I got an error message from the mailing list.
The list's address changed to pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr for some
reason...
You asked me ...
Thanks for your feedback!
Lukas you should have a look
no super read
different super black
You're right, sorry about that.
Fixed.
okay, cool, thanks.
I updated Universe to OB-Enhancements 0.265 which also contains this fix.
Damien, I also updated OmniBrowser-Morphic to a newer version.
David
On 3 Dec 2008, at 16:59, David Röthlisberger wrote:
Thanks, Alex, but shouldn't
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to make sure that I fully understand your email. Are you suggesting the
history feature should be integrated into the Standard SUnit?
I haven't got the time to check what is in [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet. I hope
to do
Thanks, Alex, but shouldn't it read:
ifSUnitSupportHistory: aBlock
(TestResult includesSelector: #updateResultsInHistory) ifTrue: [aBlock
value]
Because in your version aBlock never gets executed, not even when
#updateResultsInHistory exists.
Can you check?
David
The comment is:
I can loadOBAlpha in a 10166dev 08.11.6
I also tested loadOBAlpha in a fresh pharo0.1-10166dev08.11.6 and it works fine
too.
So what is the exact problem you get?
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Just download a latest pharo-dev image. Then file-in (not through MC)
a .st file which having a package not-yet existing in your image.
And then try to find this package in package browser , or one of the
classes in it.
System browser sees it, package browser don't.
ok, I could reproduce
I cannot predictably reproduce the bug.
It happens really when editing class having traits with OB.
We tried with
TCloneTest -{#foo}
and it did not break (we though that if we put a wrong selector this
could be the problem
but this was not). I breaks when you put a real selector
You need to have your package defined as a Monticello package. Otherwise
it's just a class cat, which is visible it the 'unpackaged' package of the
package browser.
Could you check if this is the case in your image?
That's the problem, its not visible anywhere, even in 'unpackaged' package!
change them whenever someone has better icons.
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I loaded the fix of John for the menu
and the changes for SUnit icons and my image freshes when I open the
Package browser and run the tests
in 10162
which tests? All tests?
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why are we forced to click on a method category to define one?
We could click on the class and paste a method body
then select a category...
yep, that would be something...
right now apple-F is linked to look for a class in the class category.
but this would be great to have it working
Hmm, an image, which you just sent me (10157ready.image), starts
without any problems on my windoze box. No 100% CPU load, all is just
working as always.
Looks like the bug is VM/platform dependent, or you gave me wrong image?.
The only platform dependend thing I added is the native menu on
I would be happy to see a highlighting fixed, because sometimes it
highlights wrong portion of text instead of actual send.
Also, if look senders of #self. - in OB its not highligths text at all :(
yeah, I know, this should really get fixed.
David
2008/11/12 David Röthlisberger [EMAIL
May be this was me but I often ask for senders and I get the implemented
method.
May be etoy curiving is driving crazy :)
Or your method is recursive :-)
Probably it's that, because I never get the implementing method when I search for
senders.
David
Can you check and see if it was in your code or a mistake we did?
ah, I see what happened.
We had Kerala loaded when we committed this SUnit version, but Kerala overrides
method in SUnit such as TestResultrunCase:, so those methods didn't get committed.
Very bad.
I committed a new version
So let me know when I can load again and integrate your extension.
Could you please check with SUnit-DavidRoethlisberger.42 in
http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo and execute ScriptLoader class loadOB?
Then after it would be great to have a button to run the tests and
yes, we should have
However there is something strange, the following method has disappeared
from the image (I tried with an Core 10133 updated):
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
TestResultrunCase: aTestCase
[...]
Is there any reason for this? Our extension on storing results will have
Hi Stef,
as you as the SUnit extensions are integrated, you just need to load OB.
Any OB load method in ScriptLoader can be used for this as this
extension is also in the stable OB version now.
David
can you tell me what I should do to get the icons showing the status of
tests in your
Hi,
during the recent days we worked hard on OmniBrowser to extend, improve and
stabilize it.
We also improved the loading process of all required packages to run OmniBrowser
(system and package browser).
In the latest version of ScriptLoader you will find three load methods for OB:
Hi Alex,
Installing a mc package already does some pretty sophisticated
pattern matching in the method InstallerMonticellomcThing,
What this mcThing is supposed to return? a few doits in a workspace
shows that it returns an MCVersionLoader.
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How should I use Installer to load the
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