r you free of charge?
>
> Greg Farmer
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rich"
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
>
>
>
> If you request a USPS money order you c
er is good and then cash it for you free of charge?
Greg Farmer
- Original Message -
From: "Rich"
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
If you request a USPS money order you can go to the
% feedback on a number of
transactions and I have read their feedback... Apparently, I have dealt with
some honest collector/sellers.
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 06:50:14 -0700
From: john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
Actually it is totally unders
May 2012 06:50:14 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
>
> Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money order.
> There is a huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people w
hat
you will ever get your item?
John Robles
From: "Vinyl Visions"
Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
To:
Another
scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica
of a
Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $1
bles
From: "Vinyl Visions"
Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
To:
Another
scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of a
Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it
really wasn't w
ugh how do you know if you send cash that you will ever get your item?
John Robles
From: "Vinyl Visions"
Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
To:
Another
scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of a
Thore
plain
> you have caveat emptor on ebay too
> zono
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Zucca
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 1:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
>
>
> It isn't phono related but I b
Another scam related incident - I just "won" a music box that was a replica of
a Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it really
wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction because he/she
said that he/she was "not comfortable" accepting a Wells Fargo mo
Never "buy" anything from a zero feedback seller from anywhere... especially
Eastern Europe. I got scammed on repro high end needle tins, so watch out.
> From: phonol...@mac.com
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:19:36 -0700
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L]
ve caveat emptor on ebay too
> zono
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Zucca
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 1:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
>
>
> It isn't phono related but I bought a 1909-S V
hi bill et all
i had the same on ebay but it was the penny that was plain
you have caveat emptor on ebay too
zono
-Original Message-
From: William Zucca
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
It isn't phono re
y much.
> John Robles
>
>
>
>
> From: Randy Larson
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:04 AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
>
> Have you ever heard those stories of a guy responding to a Chevrolet for
&g
It isn't phono related but I bought a 1909-S V.D.B. cent at a flea market
some years ago for a "bargain" price ant when I sent it in to a
certification service it turned out to be an "added S mint mark" to a
plain, old 1909 V.D.B. cent.
On one hand, bargains do turn up in attics, yard sales, and f
30, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
Have you ever heard those stories of a guy responding to a Chevrolet for
sale in a barn somewhere for $100. Turned out to be a 67 corvette, I think
there was even a song about it. I always wondered if that would happen on
ebay. A week ago
Have you ever heard those stories of a guy responding to a Chevrolet for
sale in a barn somewhere for $100. Turned out to be a 67 corvette, I think
there was even a song about it. I always wondered if that would happen on
ebay. A week ago Sunday, A Victor I was posted on ebay for $330.00 but it
n
ce it's not an actual auction
> anyway? The only thing that counts is the last bid.
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:09:37 -0800
> > > From: john9...@pacbell.net
> > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
> > &g
than the other
hardware stores. So much for corporate ownership of local small businesses!
Art Heller
-Original Message-
From: john robles
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? Edison Belts at ACE?
Doesn't your Ace hav
I KNOW it's a scam. But doesn't the scammer seller still owe eBay the
commission? Or is eBay just too dumb to figure it out?
--Art Heller
-Original Message-
From: Vinyl Visions
To: phono-l
Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
You can only get them at the ACE hardware in Orange, NJ... :)
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> From: clockworkh...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 20:49:50 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? Edison Belts at ACE?
>
>
> The seller is highly suspect in all of thi
Look through his feedback, he is just finding stuff and throwing it up
for sale, has no idea what he is doing and if it is not in one of those
antique price guides he is lost.
On 03/04/2012 07:49 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:
The seller is highly suspect in all of this. I sent him/her an
ch 4, 2012 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
So the "high bidder" just crapped out on him. I thought that the eBay bid
was a contract that had to be honored. So much for the eBay contract.
Unless he himself put in the high bid??? If so he owes eBay the commission
Doesn't your Ace have the Genuine Edison Phonograph Parts endcap? :-)
John
From: "clockworkh...@aol.com"
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? Edison Belts at ACE?
The seller is
On 3/4/2012 8:24 PM, john robles wrote:
Hmm, shall we reconsider my original premise about shilling??
Shilling requires two bidders, the real one and the shill. Both would
show in the bid list.
--
Bill
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It's a scam...
> From: aph4...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 20:25:53 -0500
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
> So the "high bidder" just crapped out on him. I thought that the eBay bid
> was a contract that had
I think you are right, John. But fortunately for the original bidder, the
second guy exceeded his proxy bid.
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 17:24:17 -0800
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
> Hmm, shall we reconsider m
already placed automatic
bid. Luckily for the first bidder, the second guy outbid his ridiculous proxy
bid.Curt
> From: allena...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:33:51 -0500
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
> but how can a person bid agains
The seller is highly suspect in all of this. I sent him/her an email about the
belt tension pulley and have not heard back. What I find most enlightening is
that he/she states they went to ACE Hardware which has replacement belts for $7
(but didn't buy one) and leaves it to the buyer of this
So the "high bidder" just crapped out on him. I thought that the eBay bid
was a contract that had to be honored. So much for the eBay contract.
Unless he himself put in the high bid??? If so he owes eBay the commission.
What am I missing here?
---Art Heller
In a message dated 3/4/2012
Hmm, shall we reconsider my original premise about shilling??
From: Steve Andersen
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
The Standard is now re-listed at $999.99!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAT
You often see auctions with only one bidder, who is bidding against himself.
In reality, he is bidding against the reserve price, since he doesn't know its
amount.
Jim
On Mar 4, 2012, at 2:33 PM, allena...@aol.com wrote:
> but how can a person bid against himself if he is the only bidder?
>
Or one person and a reserve which he's trying to find.
--
Bill
On 3/4/2012 5:30 PM, allena...@aol.com wrote:
yes, but of course, it takes two to tango. (or to raise a bid)...
allen
---
In a message dated 3/4/2012 5:09:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
msprin...@gmail.com writes:
Two pos
The Standard is now re-listed at $999.99!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAT-1898-EDISON-STANDARD-PHONOGRAPH-WORKING-MOTOR-SEE-MY-VIDEO-110-YEARS-OLD-/160753917176?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256dae1cf8
Sold $1060
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item256d261325&
yes, but of course, it takes two to tango. (or to raise a bid)...
allen
---
In a message dated 3/4/2012 5:09:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
msprin...@gmail.com writes:
Two possible ways to get a long series from the same* bidder.
___
Phono
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of allena...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 2:34 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
but how can a person bid against himself if he is the only bidder?
In a message dated 3/3/2
but how can a person bid against himself if he is the only bidder?
In a message dated 3/3/2012 4:38:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
john9...@pacbell.net writes:
consecutive bids within a few minutes, bidding against himself each time,
and taking the price from $599 to $1000.
is the video that sold it though.
On 03/03/2012 07:43 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote:
Thanks for the compliment, Steve...
From: steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 18:36:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
where are these buyers when I am selling something
Thanks for the compliment, Steve...
> From: steve_nor...@msn.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 18:36:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
>
> where are these buyers when I am selling something?
> . It was the way he describ
gt; To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:52:34 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
>
> A two minute Standard with no horn, no crane and no belt for $1,060? The
> seller made out like a bandit... where are these buyers when I am selling
> something?
>
A two minute Standard with no horn, no crane and no belt for $1,060? The seller
made out like a bandit... where are these buyers when I am selling something?
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:09:37 -0800
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] e
rned
> is this - don't place a proxy bid for more than you are actually
> comfortable with paying, because someone will try to get you to your max.
> > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:04:39 -0500
> > Subject: R
;t place a proxy bid for more than you are actually comfortable with paying,
because someone will try to get you to your max.
> From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:04:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
>
> Act
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
> A yeah. I get it. I find it amazing anyone would bid that
> much for a Standard though.
>
>
>
>
> From: George Glastris
> To: Antique Phonogr
>
>
>
>From: Bill Taney
>To: Antique Phonograph List
>Sent: Sat, March 3, 2012 7:21:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
>It's probably someone who doesn't know what the machine is worth, they
>both have lots of feedback
to tell if you don't have both machines to compare.
Glenn
From: Bill Taney
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Sat, March 3, 2012 7:21:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
It's probably someone who doesn't know what the machine is wor
sure your Standards
were A models?
John
From: Bill Taney
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
It's probably someone who doesn't know what the machine is worth, they
both have lots o
A yeah. I get it. I find it amazing anyone would bid that much
for a Standard though.
From: George Glastris
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
No, he was bidding against
tique Phonograph List"
>Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:21 AM
>Subject: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
>
>
>> Check this out..here is an Edison Standard going for over $1,000 on
>>eBay.
>> The interesting thing is, one bidder placed 13 consecutive bids within
>&
No, he was bidding against someone else...but not catching up.
- Original Message -
From: "john robles"
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:21 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
Check this out..here is an Edison Standard goin
Check this out..here is an Edison Standard going for over $1,000 on eBay. The
interesting thing is, one bidder placed 13 consecutive bids within a few
minutes, bidding against himself each time, and taking the price from $599 to
$1000. I call shilling. What do you think??
John Robles
PAT 1898 E
d, I am wondering why you couldn't just send the
obvious evidence and links to Ebay and Paypal, and have them take immediate
action against the crook.
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Back"
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:55:11 AM
S
Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:55:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Berliner - Do you think this is legit?
I did a quick google on a phrase from the auction description.
"Motor is fairly quite for this type of a machine."
I found this:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-
Sad to say, it (the Lithuanian Berliner) is not legit.
Allen
In a message dated 1/29/2012 12:55:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phonosju...@att.net writes:
Agreed. I knew it was of little financial risk, just perhaps a time issue.
I did call and speak to someone at Ebay based on
omething smells very fishy...personally, I'd try to cancel the sale
> now.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dennis Back"
>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Berliner - Do
quot;
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Berliner - Do you think this is legit?
I did a quick google on a phrase from the auction description.
"Motor is fairly quite for this type of a machine."
I found this
receptive.
Steve
> From: mtuc...@exemail.com.au
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:35:10 +1100
> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay
>
> Some eBay sellers will go to extreme lengths to market their items at high
> prices - note the extravagant claim in item 35051409
Some eBay sellers will go to extreme lengths to market their items at high
prices - note the extravagant claim in item 350514099736 that this ( 109)
is the earliest Fireside in existence.
I have number 83 and 90 is also listed. No doubt there are at least several
others below 109. Mike Tucker
eBay would rather you used PayPal, so they get a cut of the payment, but they
can't forbid local pickup for cash and there would be a huge outcry if they
tried. If you are concerned about a stranger coming to your house, set the
exchange up in a public place such as a restaurant or your place o
I recently sold an item on eBay for over $2000. The item will be picked-up at
my home rather than shipped. The buyer has offered to pay cash at the time of
pick-up. I searched eBay and I am not sure of what their current policy is
concerning cash transactions. Any advice in this matter is a
Wow, i'm hanging on to mine till it gets to $10,000 these babies are like
having gold...
> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 03:39:30 +
> From: bruce78...@comcast.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay "Special" - 1940's Mikiphone Po
It is the best deal for a seller I have seen in a long time.
> And that is the opening bid price, not a buy it now price. "SUCH A DEAL ".
>
>
> Check out this ridiculous listing, just in time for Christmas:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120816777670&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS
And don't you just love the wonderfully informative photos!
-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:32 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay "Special
And that is the opening bid price, not a buy it now price. "SUCH A DEAL ".
- Original Message -
From: "Vinyl Visions"
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:32:17 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay "Special" - 1940's Mikiphone Porta
Check out this ridiculous listing, just in time for Christmas:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120816777670&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_16978wt_2594
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"Very nice and a good piece to complete your phonograph and listening pleasure.
Owner pays shipping."
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220898483064&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_1202
_
: [Phono-L] Ebay at work
Exactly, you need to get the bidding started. I hope people will learn from
you, your excellence should show the way. Steve
> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:42:58 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay at
Exactly, you need to get the bidding started. I hope people will learn from
you, your excellence should show the way. Steve
> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:42:58 -0700
> From: john9...@pacbell.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay at work
>
> My experie
, October 28, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay at work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310353226375 This guy
started of this part at $12.99 having no idea what it was worth. It sold for
$229.49. So many people put things on eBay at top dollar and wonder why no
o: ;
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:29 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay at work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310353226375 This
guy started of this part at $12.99 having no idea what it was worth. It
sold for $229.49. So many people put things on eBay at top doll
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310353226375 This guy
started of this part at $12.99 having no idea what it was worth. It sold for
$229.49. So many people put things on eBay at top dollar and wonder why no one
bids. There was even one item that had a buy it now for
2011 18:01:58 -0400
> From: thatc...@mediaguide.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay does it again (delete if not interested)
>
> you can always download the image. Even in Firefox.
> Just right click "view Source"
> then downlo
et a program called SNAG-IT, which captures images without the l
in
> e. Snipping Tool is free - Snag-It is not - however you can find it for free
> on http://www.filecrop.com - and I am not endorsing that method, if you
> choose to pursue it...
>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 1
you choose
to pursue it...
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:01:58 -0400
> From: thatc...@mediaguide.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay does it again (delete if not interested)
>
> you can always download the image. Even in Firefox.
> Just right click &quo
you can always download the image. Even in Firefox.
Just right click "view Source"
then download the jpeg file.
--
Thatcher Graham
Senior Field Engineer
Mediaguide
On 10/12/2011 3:58 PM, Dennis Back wrote:
It seems that ebay has done another update and it not a good one for the
consumer
It seems that ebay has done another update and it not a good one for the
consumer.
What is happening now is that when an auction is over (completed) ebay has now
removed the seller's pictures that were posted to the ebay server. The only
picture remaining is a very small thumbnail which is par
ph List"
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
>
>
>> My response as to how does he know it's factory was tongue in cheek. When I
>> hear stuff like that or only 3 know to exist I always ask or think who told
al Message -
From: "Jay Horenstein"
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Factory painted or not, I think it looks nice. If I wanted a gem, I would
quot;
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
My response as to how does he know it's factory was tongue in cheek. When
I
hear stuff like that or only 3 know to exist I always ask or think who
Phonograph List
Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2011 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
What is the purpose of continuing to beat this seller's description?
While we agree that it is highly unlikely the paint was applied at the
factory, the paint is good enough that a seller without
y done, but
it would be great at $400-500, not $1,200.
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> From: zonophone2...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 19:34:35 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
>
> HI STEVE
> I AGREE
> I HAVE SEVERAL COLLECTOR FRIENDS WHO HAVE ON
I have some "very rare" popcorn bowls or candy dishes that were made by Victor
and they look like real records... very rare because I haven't seen many of
them (thank goodness). Any takers for $600 before I list them on eBay and find
a sucker willing to pay $1,000?
I agree with you Greg Farmer.
- Original Message -
From: "The Farmers"
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
What is the purpose of continuing to beat this seller's description?
April 10, 2011 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
"He said that as far as he knows the paint was applied at the factor",
And where pray tell did he derive that knowledge from ? Me thinks very
strongly, that it is a figment of his vast imagination !!
- Original
aney.com wrote:
From: b...@taney.com
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Cc: "Antique Phonograph List"
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 9:12 AM
I would not assume he is trying to cheat anyone. The paint does look "aged" and
on the lid. This did
>> not come from the factory like that.
>>
>> From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>>> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:20:57 -0400
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
>>>
>>>
>
ge -
> From: "Steven Medved"
> To: "Phono-l"
> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 11:16:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
>> From: smst...@gmail.com
>> To: phono-l@oldc
2011 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
"He said that as far as he knows the paint was applied at the factor", And
where pray tell did he derive that knowledge from ? Me thinks very
strongly, that it is a figment of his vast imagination !!
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To: "Phono-l"
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 11:16:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
From: smst...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 11:16:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
> From: smst...@gmail.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
>
> Ward an interesting comment. How
the lid. This did not come
from the factory like that.
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:20:57 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
I found an auction for an Edison GEM, with rose flowered horn and decorated
case which matches and
As far as he knows is a very loaded statement. In other words within the realm
of his knowledge. He is either a cheat or knows very little.
> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
> From: smst...@gmail.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM -
priced at $1,700.00.
> Never mind that there are three others on ebay right now priced at around
> $350.00...
> John
>
> --- On Sat, 4/9/11, Rich wrote:
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> From: Rich
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
> Da
iced at around
> $350.00...
> John
>
> --- On Sat, 4/9/11, Rich wrote:
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> From: Rich
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
> Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 7:28 PM
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> He is also correct, it is original pain
> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
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>
> I found an auction for an Edison GEM, with rose flowered horn and decorated
> case which matches and appears to be old...
>
> Question: did Edison ever produce a machine with a flowered case to match the
> horn - sell
: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 7:28 PM
He is also correct, it is original paint. It is not a copy of paint, it
is original paint right out of a can and/or tube, and it is old. Now how
old is not defined. To some 10 years
the base - not a difficult task for an artist.
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
From: smst...@gmail.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Ward an interesting comment. How would the seller know that?
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ward Sandstrom wrot
the same design/style.
The horn had the same gold
scroll work added as on the base - not a difficult task for an artist.
> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:55:15 -0700
> From: smst...@gmail.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
>
> Ward an int
auction. Ward S.
> - Original Message - From: "Rich"
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> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:09 PM
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> Some of these enhancements were done in the early 50s, and
, April 09, 2011 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?
Some of these enhancements were done in the early 50s, and during the
depression to improve mail order saleability of used phonos. To tell what
you are looking at you would have to be doing paint analysis to date it.
Does not
Some of these enhancements were done in the early 50s, and during the
depression to improve mail order saleability of used phonos. To tell
what you are looking at you would have to be doing paint analysis to
date it. Does not realy look Factory though.
On 04/09/2011 11:23 AM, Steve Andersen wr
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