From: "Marjolein Katsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> P.S. I personally wrote an extension for HomeSite: the PHP
> >expression builder; this is based on PHP3; a version for PHP4 is
> >planned. I'm also working on tools for even *better* integration
of
> >the PHP HTML help files with HomeSite. The cur
From: "Marjolein Katsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.php:
> "Note, that this is not the official version, and there can be
many errors and bugs to fix. The actual officical CHM manual can be
found at http://www.php.net/download-docs.php. This does not mean,
that this
At 22:12 2001-12-16 +0100, Egon Schmid wrote:
>From: "Marjolein Katsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[snip]
>> P.S. I personally wrote an extension for HomeSite: the PHP
>expression builder; this is based on PHP3; a version for PHP4 is
>planned. I'm also working on tools for even *better* integration of
Sander Roobol writes:
> > From http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.php:
> > "Note, that this is not the official version, and there can be many errors
> and bugs to fix.
> > The actual officical CHM manual can be found at
> http://www.php.net/download-docs.php.
> > This does not mean, that this is a sep
> From http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.php:
> "Note, that this is not the official version, and there can be many errors
and bugs to fix.
> The actual officical CHM manual can be found at
http://www.php.net/download-docs.php.
> This does not mean, that this is a separate project. This will be the
of
From http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.php:
"Note, that this is not the official version, and there can be many errors and bugs to
fix. The actual officical CHM manual can be found at
http://www.php.net/download-docs.php. This does not mean, that this is a separate
project. This will be the offici
> I didn't like the new format, because:
> - it is heavy. The pages take longer to open than they used to;
> - cute graphics are cute, but useless. I don't need them to learn or
> find the information I want;
> - that purple background is horrible. It gives the whole viewing
> area a darker aspect
I didn't like the new format, because:
- it is heavy. The pages take longer to open than they used to;
- cute graphics are cute, but useless. I don't need them to learn or
find the information I want;
- that purple background is horrible. It gives the whole viewing
Hi ,
I am using u r new Chm manual. It is very
handy and I love the way u guys do things.
Bye
Hari Yellina,
www.yellina.com
Just downloaded the development
CHM (Dec-4-2001). I haven’t used the first CHM, so I’m not sure if this is a
carryover or what.
Ummm, it’s really wide. Like,
Main » Function Reference » Array
Functions
makes me scroll right to see
the whole thing and I’m maximized
Howdy,
Just downloaded the development CHM
(Dec-4-2001). I haven’t used the first CHM, so I’m not sure if this is a
carryover or what.
Ummm, it’s really wide. Like,
Main » Function Reference » Array
Functions
makes me scroll right to see
the whole thing and I’m maximized at 1024 pixels.
HI
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
thank you for your work with PHP documentation CHM format. It's very useful
!!!
With my best wishes,
Andrey Sardak. Russia.
> GH> Now :) I have just comitted the end of the survey news
> GH> item to cvs.php.net one minute ago...
>
> I see. Waiting impatiently for results :)
Full result data is available on the CHM page:
http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.php
Goba
> I consider your idea to append comments under descriptions very useable,
> but I don't think I would like your graphical format, please let us have
> a chance to have an old design. It's more synoptic.
We will :) Actually you'll have the chance to choose from a graphical
or a non graphical fo
Hi all,
I consider your idea to append comments under descriptions very useable,
but I don't think I would like your graphical format, please let us have
a chance to have an old design. It's more synoptic.
Thanx
Martin
ICQ: 96881494
> 1. See what I get when double click on it (startpage.png).
We can see it without that screenshot. There is no opening
page in the third sample, sorry. It was my fault, that this
was not written on the page of the new chm manual.
> 2. See my notes (notes.png).
Please write your notes with word
> If a function has more than one usage (e.g.
> pg_connect) the title "Usage:" is displayed
> in the vertical middle (valign="middle" in
> HTML) instead of at the top (valign="top").
>
> STATUS QUO
>
> int pg_connect ...
> int pg_connect ...
> Usage: int pg_conn
> I like the idea that you have users notes at the buttom of every
> command. I was wondering if there is a way to keep those notes upto
> date since there are new users notes posted on www.php.net
We will host the user notes in a separate CHM, so you can
upgrade the user notes separately. We'll
Hello
The CHM manual for PHP is a very nice tool
when programming with PHP! Congratulations!
The third example is as good as perfect.
Only thing I could find that could be
corrected:
If a function has more than one usage (e.g.
pg_connect) the title "Usage:" is displayed
in the vertical middle (
Hi,
I have downloaded the new CHM help manu for windows
and it's a great tool when developing.
Since I'm a new developer in PHP this tool came in
handy in many situation.
So, far I have yet to find any bugs with it. Though
I had to use www.php.net sometime to get more
flags on a command th
Well done...,
you might want to have a look to one of my tries at
http://www.kafkamedia.de/km/dyn/notes/index.php
where I tried to have a better look (e.g. syntax highlightning)
inside user-annotated-manual-notes.
There is a lot of stuff to change inside the user notes to get
compatible with any o
I have noticed that the Function handling functions are, for the most part,
missing their Usage:
call_user_func_array:
call_user_func:
unregister_tick_function
register_tick_function
register_shutdown_function
Thats all I found, thus far ;-)
> Currently it seems we will use this include technique for
> displaying user comments in the same window, while it is
> in another file:
> http://www.dansteinman.com/dynduo/en/source.html
> (see technique 2) With IE code only of course, no NS.
>
> > Will the doc be IE5+ compatible only ?
I just
> > Public discussion -> moved to the list.
>
> Also let Holget join in :))
Sorry Holger.
Goba
> > So you need DHTML to make links ? I'm really interested too...
> > But i think that's because i don't know how you generate the CHM doc.
>
> You can choose what mirror site to use for viewing the
> page online. Using http://www.php.net/ always won't be
> a Good Idea (TM), as it generates too
Putting this up on the list again :) Please use reply all to
reply to our letters, so other people can join in the
discussions :)
> > OK, how can you do a "See this page online",
> > "Report a bug on this page" functionality without
> > DHTML? Please inform me, I am really interested...
> > Sure!
> Public discussion -> moved to the list.
Also let Holget join in :))
> > > Did you actually looked at the content? There has also
> > > changed a lot. And it has already been discussed in the past
> > > the the design is not optimal.
> >
> > No, but i thought we only were talking ab
Public discussion -> moved to the list.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 01:21:28PM +0100, Yann Lohier wrote :
> > Did you actually looked at the content? There has also
> > changed a lot. And it has already been discussed in the past
> > the the design is not optimal.
>
> No, but i thought
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:56:46PM +0100, Gabor Hojtsy wrote :
> > > And please, don't use DHTML in the doc unless you REALLY know
> > > what you do (i have 3 years of daily and very intensive DHTML
> > > experience and i can assure that it's no use for a doc). This
> > > is the worst thing to d
> > And please, don't use DHTML in the doc unless you REALLY know
> > what you do (i have 3 years of daily and very intensive DHTML
> > experience and i can assure that it's no use for a doc). This
> > is the worst thing to do !!!
>
> What is wrong with DHTML here? Elaborate.
OK, how can yo
Did you actually looked at the content? There has also
changed a lot. And it has already been discussed in the past
the the design is not optimal.
However, what Gabor did was a great work. Even if many don't
like the new design (he even self says it could be better) he
pro
The new design is very bad.
You should use an arial or times font,
and only use greyscales.
I'm sorry but I think you really don't understand
what is a good documentation design.
Plans for next version are really, really awfull. I
think you want to prove to serious business companies that p
> Just a comment... the old CHM file scaled VERY nicely down to any screen
> resolution (I use 800x600).
>
> The new CHM file is too wide, and I have to manually scroll to the right,
> then scroll to the left again to see the beginning of the next line, then
> back to the right again to see the en
Just a comment... the old CHM file scaled VERY nicely down to any screen
resolution (I use 800x600).
The new CHM file is too wide, and I have to manually scroll to the right,
then scroll to the left again to see the beginning of the next line, then
back to the right again to see the end of tha
> You've probably already heard this but the link to download the new
version
> of the chm manual from Michigan is broken. It asks for a user name and
> password.
Oops... sorry :-)
It's fixed now. Thanks for reporting.
Sander
You've probably already heard this but the link to download the new version
of the chm manual from Michigan is broken. It asks for a user name and
password.
Oliver Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
16 listopada 2001 19:15
Emil Podrażka
GRAL www.gral.pl
ul. Politechniczna 7/8
80-288 Gdańsk
NIP: 584-100-15-90
Gadu-Gadu: 86854
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I love it. I've been shying away from using the original chm files, except
when the network to php.net was down, because the user comments really do
complement the documentation.
I suspect that having this new format available should
help decrease some of the load hitting php.net :-).
> > There are some works paralelly on the way. We welcome you with a draft
if you
> > would like to show what you think would be good...
> >
> Are you at the PHP-Conference in Frankfurt next week? I will present a
> session on usability and interface design there. But it will be in
> German. :-( A
Hi!
Am 30.10.2001 19:38 Uhr schrieb Hojtsy Gabor:
> There are some works paralelly on the way. We welcome you with a draft if you
> would like to show what you think would be good...
>
Are you at the PHP-Conference in Frankfurt next week? I will present a
session on usability and interface desi
Hi,
I just checked out the new CHM beta manual, and think it's very cool. I have
a question about the user notes: will they be statically included or will
they be dynamically downloaded? It would be cool to have the latest update
each time you browse the page, but at the same time some people don
> > in a short time (although one of the goals of this new CHM is to show
how
> > many things can be using the current manual content as input).
>
> Just to note, with some transformations with XSLT, almost anything can use
> the current manual as input.
The majority of the transformation now don
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Hojtsy Gabor wrote:
> in a short time (although one of the goals of this new CHM is to show how
> many things can be using the current manual content as input).
Just to note, with some transformations with XSLT, almost anything can use
the current manual as input. And I'm l
> Comments on the Help chm;
> I think there are too many colours. The help manual is a daily
> workhorse, with blue, orange brown etc it becomes a little too
> busy and hard on the eyes.
>
> I also think it would be better to display the background image
> less, say only on the main heading pages
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Subject: [PHP-DOC] New CHM manual
opinions
Nice design on the new manual, I am one of those
looking forward to the inclusion of the user comments. As I was trying it out,
I noticed a couple of issues.
While it looks
> I am a freelance web developer from India and would
> like to submit a few samples.How do I do so?Can I mail
> them to this email address or link it to my homepage.
Please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or put it up on your web site,
and give the address of it.
Thanks,
Goba
Great work guys!
Having the online comments is great, there are so many
"gems" in them.
Comments on the Help chm;
I think there are too many colours. The help manual is a daily
workhorse, with blue, orange brown etc it becomes a little too
busy and hard on the eyes.
I also think it would be be
Nice design on the new manual, I am one of those
looking forward to the inclusion of the user comments. As I was trying it out, I
noticed a couple of issues.
While it looks great on screen, the layout is not
very scalable. When I browse through the help files, I like to keep the
contents/
Dear Sir,
I am a freelance web developer from India and would
like to submit a few samples.How do I do so?Can I mail
them to this email address or link it to my homepage.
Thanks and regards,
Hari
Nokia Game is on again.
Go to http://uk
The new CHM manual design (from http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.html) looks
nice overall, and I love the new features. There are just a couple of
things:
1. It loads slowly. I really like the speed I get with the last version of
the manual. I think this is partly because of the heavy graphics, and
> And one feature I would l really love to see is a link to the online
> equivilant of the each help page to see what new coments have been
> posted
This is part of the online functions section right now :)
> and drop down menus (they could just be combo boxes) to
> related help documents.
This
I have seen you
screen shots (for your new help) and I think that it looks great. I do not
think you need a professional web designer at all you are doing just
great. That said I am no professional web designer I am just an amateur
(student)(http://www.richardjameskendall.com
[all done in
HG> Do you think that online functions are useless for the common user?
Oh, I see.. Of course i't cool when you can just click and see the
latest information, especially about user notes, which can be added
often... That's right idea.
--
Best regards,
Olexandrmailto
>> Another idea is to make the fonts a point or two
>> smaller, since they are quite generously large. (At
>> least this is unlike some places where the code is
>> displayed in 6pt Eyestrain Monospace...) But these
>> fonts would still be very readable at a point or two
>> smaller.
HG> IMHO, i
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Hojtsy Gabor wrote:
> > It should point to
> > http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.30
>
> Corrected in XML format of the manual. Do not expect it to
> show up in CHM files for some days...
make that atleast two weeks... crappy tech service here...
r
> IMHO distributing the notes is the wrong way to go
> as it gets even less likely this way
> that a manual maintainer goes over the notes and
> tries to update the page itself
>
> *unless maybe* if we could get some sort of contributed
> notes rating system so that maintainers get a quick clue
>
> > Please set .chm mime type as bin. Is it impossible to download useable
> > chm documentation now.
>
> Yes, that should be done, although some browsers (like Lynx and Opera)
> handle it fine the way it is now.
On what server? weblabor.hu? Other testers seemed to download
it correctly. What b
> It should point to
> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.30
Corrected in XML format of the manual. Do not expect it to
show up in CHM files for some days...
Goba
Hojtsy Gabor wrote:
> Including user notes in the manual is a greatly requested feature. But
> as you can see on the download page, we plan to make it two (tha manual
> and the notes). So you don't need to download the notes if you don't want
> to.
IMHO distributing the notes is the wrong way to
> I saw the page about the new help file. You said you could need a new
> design. Is this still the case? If so, maybe I could help you out.
There are some works paralelly on the way.
We welcome you with a draft if you would
like to show what you think would be good...
Goba
> The tables and boxes contained in the righthand
> content window (user contributed notes, notes,
> warnings, see also) are too large to read on a
> 1024x768 res monitor without maximising the CHM.
>
> This is a problem for people like me, stuck developing
> on a laptop with a 1024x768 monitor (
> Ref: New CHM format of the PHP Manual at:
> http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.html
>
> >Note, that this is not the official version, and there can be many
> >errors and bugs to fix. The actual officical CHM manual can be found
> >at http://www.php.net/download-docs.php
>
> Is this to say that y
> Wonderful! This is exactly what I've been longing for on those occasions
> when www.php.net/my_question is inaccesible.
Hope we can get as much of the online content as we can, so people
can access things more quickly...
> I've been browsing the helpfile for a few minutes and what I've noticed
> hi, i downloaded the .chm manual from:
>
> http://www.php.net/download-docs.php
>
> i downloaded the .zip version and after unpacking file size is:
This was not the actual CHM file we would like you to test. :)
The test file can be found here: http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.html
Quite an unof
> HG> You have said nothing about the alternate grouping of function
properties,
>
> You know, I like the "old" layout. There is no useless elements. Every
> sign, every dot means something.
OK, I ask you the last time, please forget about all the images. The
function properties are grouped in an
, not before next week's end... Please be patient, it will be
on the homepage of php.net :)
Goba
- Original Message -
From:
hamus@work
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:55
AM
Subject: [PHP-DOC] New CHM manual
opinions
D
> It is GREAT. Thank you very much. I develop PHP on a win2k box and the CHM
> file makes browsing the documentation as easy as 1-2-3. Thank you very
much.
> One thing: I noticed that you get a horizontal scrollbar even when the
> window is fairly wide. I attached a screenshot of what I mean.
Thi
> As far as I know, previous (official) PHP documentation in .CHM format was
> compiled without indexes. So, it was not possible to use it for context
> sensitive help systems.. I hope now it will :-)
The actual ones you can download from http://wwwphp.net/download-docs.php
are with indexes. The
> I've found a little error in the str_replace function description, in
> the user contributed notes section, specifically under
> the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" contribute. The syntax of the code is not correct.
Please report errors in notes at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks. This info will be in the about
> I have tried the new PHP chm manual for 1 day. I like the new content a
> lot better, but I agree that the design could be improved.
>
> Here's my feedback:
>
> 1. The background bitmap looks tacky (enlarged, jagged, etc.). I don't
want to
> download unneeded images either. Just HTML please.
T
> I hate to seem like an amateur, but after downloading the file I cannot
> get it to open. I keep getting the following message:
>
> hh.exe has generated the following errors and will be closed by
> Windows. You will need to restart the program.
>
> Any ideas on how to fix the problem or inst
> >> .) Purpose, Usage, Availability: IMHO much better to read (except
> >> the brightened background image)
>
> HG> I'll think over that lightened background. After using the
> HG> manual for some hours, it seemed to me also, that it is not
> HG> the best to have it there. Also I am thinking of
Hi!
I saw the page about the new help file. You said you could need a new
design. Is this still the case? If so, maybe I could help you out.
Regards, Holger.
--
T H E S C R E E N C O L L E C T I V E
studio for interactive design
munich * reykjavik
> Please set .chm mime type as bin. Is it impossible to download useable
> chm documentation now.
Yes, that should be done, although some browsers (like Lynx and Opera)
handle it fine the way it is now.
Sander
Hello!
Please set .chm mime type as bin. Is it impossible to download useable
chm documentation now.
Thanks!
Peter Nemeth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
You've really done a good job with the beta CHM
version.
One small problem:
The tables and boxes contained in the righthand
content window (user contributed notes, notes,
warnings, see also) are too large to read on a
1024x768 res monitor without maximising the CHM.
This is a problem for p
> sorry bout that, since i DL the pdf version at the same time
> got a little mixed up.
> t.
OK.
But about the CHM file, you say that the file is 1,856,192 bytes large. Is
that still correct? If so, you should try downloading the file again because
it should be larger than this. It should be 2.376
> hi, i downloaded the .chm manual from:
> http://www.php.net/download-docs.php
> i downloaded the .zip version and after unpacking file size is:
> 1,856,192 bytes
How can you download a .zip version of the .chm manual? There is none. (it
would be useless anyway, because .chm is already pretty st
Ref: New CHM format of the PHP Manual at:
http://weblabor.hu/php/newchm.html
>Note, that this is not the official version, and there can be many
>errors and bugs to fix. The actual officical CHM manual can be found
>at http://www.php.net/download-docs.php
Is this to say that you're putting t
Wonderful! This is exactly what I've been longing for on those occasions
when www.php.net/my_question is inaccesible.
I've been browsing the helpfile for a few minutes and what I've noticed
is that the width of the manpage changes a lot. For example the "ClibPDF
functions" and "HTTP functions" pa
the strange thing: other help files (default/and not default)
work fine, this prob. occurs only with this specific .chm
maybe i should have mentioned that...
and no, i havent installed any external, 3rd party, odd andor strange
versions of htmhelp.
but i can try to copy from a freshly installed
Short answer: your HtmlHelp installation is broken.
Long answer: There is none. Try to fix it by updating it (but,
afaik, there aren't any updates for w2k about HH) or get some
trusted bianries from friends.
However, I wonder what could have done this. Tried to install a
separate HtmHelp version
hi, i downloaded the .chm manual from:
http://www.php.net/download-docs.php
i downloaded the .zip version and after unpacking file size is:
1,856,192 bytes
im not sure what info you need to debug,
heres some general stuff from the windows properties window:
i am using:
Microsoft Windows 200
I've found a little error in the str_replace function description, in
the user contributed notes section, specifically under
the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" contribute. The syntax of the code is not correct.
Aside of this, I think it would be useful to add the possibility to
collapse the user contributed
I've found a little error in the str_replace function description, in
the user contributed notes section, specifically under
the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" contribute. The syntax of the code is not correct.
Aside of this, I think it would be useful to add the possibility to
collapse the user contributed
It should point to
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.30
Sander
- Original Message -
From: POLIN spa
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:30 AM
Subject: [PHP-DOC] New CHM manual opinions
Dear PHP staff,
first of all compliments for the
Dear PHP staff,
first of all compliments for the developement of
the PHP manual into chm format.
I downloaded it and I'm using it
strongly.
I would like to advice you about a broken link that
I found inside the manual.
Please goto -->>
-- Function Reference
HTTP functions
-- header
Dear Author,
Hello! I'm Hamus Lee who is a
PHP user in Hong Kong. Your New CHM Manual is really great, All my friends and
me also feel glad for the new feature especially the "User Comment" included in
the new version. Will it have more version such as MAC or PALM
version?
Also,
Hello,
I have tried the new PHP chm manual for 1 day. I like the new content a lot better,
but
I agree that the design could be improved.
Here's my feedback:
1. The background bitmap looks tacky (enlarged, jagged, etc.). I don't want to
download unneeded images either. Just HTML please.
2.
Hello!
As far as I know, previous (official) PHP documentation in .CHM format was
compiled without indexes. So, it was not possible to use it for context
sensitive help systems.. I hope now it will :-)
Peter Y. Sobolev
http://www.enlight.ru/frog
It is GREAT. Thank you very much. I develop PHP on a win2k box and the CHM
file makes browsing the documentation as easy as 1-2-3. Thank you very much.
One thing: I noticed that you get a horizontal scrollbar even when the
window is fairly wide. I attached a screenshot of what I mean.
Thanks agai
I like the new chm model you are building.
I have been trying to install on an nt system, and this makes it much easier to
unerstand what the configuration is supossed to be.
I hate to seem like an amateur, but after downloading the file I cannot
get it to open. I keep getting the following message:
hh.exe has generated the following errors and will be closed by
Windows. You will need to restart the program.
Any ideas on how to fix the problem or instructions of so
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