Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stephen wrote: > how were they mirrored? firmware or software? > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > > Gee, > > > > Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D > > drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives

Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
how were they mirrored? firmware or software? On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Gee, > > Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D > drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives? > > I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use

Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf

2010-06-21 Thread Technomage
On 6/20/10 10:05 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] it sounds all too sensational to me. However the alluding to corporate conspiracies is probably more true than not. However, unless there is real evidence to support the other m

Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf

2010-06-20 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 04:11:39PM -0700, keith smith wrote: > > Maybe you see this as "apocalyptic". However what if something like this were > to happen. Do you think it would be relevant then? > > I know Joseph and he is a very stable guy that you would want to live next > door > to you, es

Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf

2010-06-20 Thread JD Austin
This is one of those times I HOPE that this is just tin hat talk and nothing like that happens. Fortunately worst case scenario only happens once in a while! JD On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 17:06, Alan Dayley wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 a

Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf

2010-06-20 Thread Alan Dayley
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:05:48AM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: >> >> Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] > >        snip of tons of apocalyptic crap. > > Is this list moderated? If so, how did

Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf

2010-06-20 Thread keith smith
o has good intentions it is Joseph. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 6/20/10, Robert Holtzman wrote: From: Robert Holtzman Subject: Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 2:31 PM O

Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf

2010-06-20 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:05:48AM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] snip of tons of apocalyptic crap. Is this list moderated? If so, how did this get through? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you thi

Re: OT: Net Nuetrality and the World Cup

2010-06-13 Thread Nathan England
When I view it it shows Powered by Cox, but when I try to view any video it tells me it does not recognize my network. It is only because I am down here at the bottom of the earth... or so if feels sometimes! I select Cox from a list and then log in and I can view what videos they have, though many

Re: OT: Net Nuetrality and the World Cup

2010-06-12 Thread Dazed_75
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Kevin Brown wrote: > I have largely stayed out of the net neutrality debate as I don't really >> understand both sides. >> >> I do not have access to cable tv of any kind, but I have Cox for my >> internet access. When the Olympics were on I could not watch them

Re: OT: Net Nuetrality and the World Cup

2010-06-12 Thread Kevin Brown
I have largely stayed out of the net neutrality debate as I don't really understand both sides. I do not have access to cable tv of any kind, but I have Cox for my internet access. When the Olympics were on I could not watch them online because I do not have a windows PC, so NBC was off limits. W

Re: OT: Net Nuetrality and the World Cup

2010-06-11 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Neither. This is not addressed by net neutrality. ESPN has the rite to make private deals all they want. Net neutrality says that if NBC and ESPN both offer you the ability to watch world cup and ESPN has the "better" coverage for you but NBC gives cox a kick back then Cox can not block or degrade

Re: OT Malware scanners fail; Train users to minimize the risk

2010-05-29 Thread Bryan O'Neal
sorry - writing coherently takes time and effort - both of which I am using on other projects rite now :\ On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Bryan O'Neal wrote: >> >> no-script is silent now - it will block everything without asking. If >> you notice trouble in the page (like

Re: OT Malware scanners fail; Train users to minimize the risk

2010-05-29 Thread Eric Shubert
Bryan O'Neal wrote: no-script is silent now - it will block everything without asking. If you notice trouble in the page (like it won't render or some element you think should be there is not) you can go to the tray icon in the lower right of the browser and turn things on. A slightly less annoy

Re: OT Malware scanners fail; Train users to minimize the risk

2010-05-29 Thread Bryan O'Neal
no-script is silent now - it will block everything without asking. If you notice trouble in the page (like it won't render or some element you think should be there is not) you can go to the tray icon in the lower right of the browser and turn things on. A slightly less annoying method is to run y

Re: OT Malware scanners fail; Train users to minimize the risk

2010-05-29 Thread Dazed_75
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Technomage wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/28/malware_user_training/ > > I, too have been noticing a significant increase in troubled machines > lately > (including OS X, Linux and of course the usual Microsoft suspects). > Something > to keep an eye

Re: OT-ish: vertical keyboard options

2010-05-27 Thread stu
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Taylor, Kaia > wrote: This is not exactly about linux, I'm looking for opinions on vertical keyboard options. (My wrist is sore these days and I want to avoid carpal tunnel). I have looked at these 3 online: Just t

Re: OT-ish: vertical keyboard options

2010-05-26 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Anyone remember the Professional II Datahand keyboard? Now that had your six shooter idea down ;) On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Benjamin Francom wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Taylor, Kaia > wrote: >> >> This is not exactly about linux, I'm looking for opinions on vertical >> keyb

Re: OT-ish: vertical keyboard options

2010-05-26 Thread Benjamin Francom
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Taylor, Kaia wrote: > This is not exactly about linux, I'm looking for opinions on vertical > keyboard options. (My wrist is sore these days and I want to avoid carpal > tunnel). I have looked at these 3 online: > > $88 goldtouch > http://www.goldtouch.com/p-64-

RE: OT-ish: vertical keyboard options

2010-05-26 Thread Taylor, Kaia
Hey Eric, That six-shooter idea may be easy, using the kenesis with 20" tether cable and some clever velcro. http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C ode=KB700PB-us-20&Category_Code=FKBDPC It reminded me of another interesting customization http://www.instructab

Re: OT-ish: vertical keyboard options

2010-05-26 Thread Eric Shubert
Taylor, Kaia wrote: This is not exactly about linux, I'm looking for opinions on vertical keyboard options. (My wrist is sore these days and I want to avoid carpal tunnel). I have looked at these 3 online: $88 goldtouch http://www.goldtouch.com/p-64-goldtouch-adjustable-keyboard-black.aspx

Re: OT: ending unwanted threads

2010-05-25 Thread Nathan England
actually, to be more accurate for this list, OT should designate something that actually has to do with FOSS. ha ha! On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > Can we please just start using the OT: header in the subject line? > > On Mon, May 2

RE: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-20 Thread ChasM Marshall
ion quality control. Fujitsu is the same way. I'm saddened every time I see a PC with these installed. Future misery in these brands. (-: Chas.M. :-) > From: cryptwo...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:24:00 -0700 > Subject: Re: Ot hard drive stress test > To: nadi

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-20 Thread Stephen
I have been preferential with WD and Hitachi HDD's from when i ran support for a whitebox vendor (server and desktop) the lowest number of issues/RMA's were these drives. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Nadim Hoque wrote: > Hey, > > I am buying a new hard drive for my computer and I was wonderin

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-20 Thread Stephen
For long term stress I have used Bart's Stuff Test for Linux bonnie can be done in such a way as to loop for a given number of passes. bart's was easier. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Nadim Hoque wrote: > Hey, > > I am buying a new hard drive for my computer and I was wondering what are > som

Re: (OT) Re: Killing PLUG softly

2010-05-20 Thread unixprgrm...@gmail.com
Lyle, Brilliantly stated! Lynn On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > I agree, the OT thread stated above has gone on far too long and caused a > lot of unnecessary strife. > > as for the political (and human) situation we find ourselves in, this quote > seems most > approp

Re: OT: Penguins who ride..

2010-05-19 Thread Ken Bowley
I haven't fully decided if I will go or not. The cause is a great one, but the route is "redundant" for me, covering a lot of the same freeway that I travel every day between my house on the west side of town and my work at ASU. Of course if there is going to be a group of Linux users out there,

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Shubert
It should be mentioned that, while reliability differences between server and consumer lines are negligible, server lines typically have a longer warranty period (WD Black is 5 yr), while consumer lines are usually 1-3 years, depending on mfr and model. -- -Eric 'shubes' Joseph Sinclair wrote

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread keith smith
Okay, Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Eric Shubert wrote: From: Eric Shubert Subject: Re: Ot hard drive stress test To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 5:43 PM They're the more expensive ones. ;) Seriously though, f

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Brian Cluff
Unfortunately, I don't have any hard numbers, but my experience comes from the Desktop environment and the "server grade" drives seemed to do a little bit better than when I used consumer grade drives. Perhaps that handle power cycling better. I do wish I had kept really good notes though sin

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Joseph Sinclair
A statistical analysis was published on a variety of disk drive lines a few years ago with a sample size of well over 100,000 drives[1]. Other studies have shown negligible actual reliability differences between server and consumer lines across large populations. Quality on consumer drives tends

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Shubert
drives are made for servers? Keith Smith --- On *Wed, 5/19/10, Brian Cluff //* wrote: From: Brian Cluff Subject: Re: Ot hard drive stress test To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 5:20 PM I'll third on

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread keith smith
If I go to a place like http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=15&name=Hard-Drives  How do I know which drives are made for servers? Keith Smith --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Brian Cluff wrote: From: Brian Cluff Subject: Re: Ot hard drive stress test To: &

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Brian Cluff
I'll third on western digital, seagates are also pretty good, but whatever you do don't even start to consider Maxtor. They seem to have a near 100% failure rate. It's not if they are going to fail, but when. Also don't go with any hard drive manufacturers budget line or low end drive, try a

Re: OT: Penguins who ride..

2010-05-19 Thread Shawn Badger
I would love to go, but unfortunately the timing is bad :( Thanks for posting it though!! On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:43 PM, James Finstrom < jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > I know some members here ride motorcycles so I wanted to make you all aware > of a FREE motorcycle awa

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Shubert
The badblocks command is what the mkfs.ext3 command uses when given 2 -c flags. Not quite the same flags overall, but it gets the job done. Just be sure to use it before/when you create the filesystem. ;) Technomage wrote: badblocks in linux is an excellent stress test code: badblocks -f

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Technomage
badblocks in linux is an excellent stress test code: badblocks -f -t random -w -p 10 -s -v /dev/ this will do 10 passes of a random pattern in destructive read/write mode, indicate which blocks its writing and print any addition debug info. I have used this on all new drives to force the d

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Eric Shubert
I like WD as well. Their warranty exchange process is a breeze, and they also have a nice customer loyalty program that saves some $$ when replacing a drive that is out of warranty. AFA testing goes, I simply use mkfs.ext3 and use 2 -c flags. This does 4 complete cycles (1010, 0101, ,

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Shawn Badger
+2 on Bonnie++ I also tend to like the Western digital line for IDE/SATA drives. I have had a few bad ones (out of hundreds), but they tend to run well for me. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Alex Dean wrote: > > On May 19, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Nadim Hoque wrote: > > Hey, >> >> I am buying a n

Re: Ot hard drive stress test

2010-05-19 Thread Alex Dean
On May 19, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Nadim Hoque wrote: Hey, I am buying a new hard drive for my computer and I was wondering what are some good hard drive stress test and how long should I let it run for. I also do not mind what platform (windows, mac, or linux) it will run on. Speaking of hard

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-19 Thread JD Austin
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 05:40, Michael Havens wrote: > I'd like to see that paper If I could. > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Technomage > wrote: > > recently had to do a simple write up >> of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east. >> >> There is a pretty good procedure he

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-19 Thread Michael Havens
I'd like to see that paper If I could. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Technomage wrote: recently had to do a simple write up > of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east. > > > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 22:14, Technomage wrote: > put me on board as well. I have to work with 3 OS's here at home > (linux windows and OS X) and recently had to do a simple write > up > of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east. > > > On 5/16/10 1:29 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > >> A

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-18 Thread Technomage
put me on board as well. I have to work with 3 OS's here at home (linux windows and OS X) and recently had to do a simple write up of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east. On 5/16/10 1:29 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack

Re: (OT) Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread keith smith
Good Job! Keith Smith --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote: From: Lyle Tuttle Subject: (OT) Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 6:44 PM At 04:57 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote: This is perhaps th

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread keith smith
Excellent reference! Keith Smith --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote: From: Lyle Tuttle Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 2:24 PM At 01:02 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 01:02 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote: At 12:47 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote: So you are seriously telling me the DOJ stats, cited by the conservative CATO institute, are misinformation? I don't know yet...I did copy that info to one of the section leaders in the county Atty's office, and the immediate res

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread joe
While I agree that it is generally preferable to try to keep this forum as focused as possible on primarily Linux related topics ... on the other hand as long as the subject line clearly states "OT" ... then why not just let it run its course. Seems to me that the main thing is to just make sure

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:44, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration > but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented > and working. > This covers the above: http://www.ebaumsworld.

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread keith smith
yan O'Neal Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 1:44 PM I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented and working.

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:25, keith smith wrote: > > I think you missed my point. My Point : Just because there is as much > crime last year as this year does not mean there isn't a problem. > > It's a sad truth that few people are ever swayed by logic when the issue is emotional and vice-versa

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented and working. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, JD Austin wrote: > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04, Bryan O'Neal > wrote: >> >> The whole point I would like to

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread keith smith
000 people. Hey but crime has not risen!    Keith Smith --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Ariel Gold wrote: From: Ariel Gold Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 12:45 PM I would be sur

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 12:47 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote: So you are seriously telling me the DOJ stats, cited by the conservative CATO institute, are misinformation? I don't know yet...I did copy that info to one of the section leaders in the county Atty's office, and the immediate response was one of surprise.and

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread Ariel Gold
truth turn off your TV and start reading the blogs. The > real truth is our there. > > > > > Keith Smith > > --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Ariel Gold * wrote: > > > From: Ariel Gold > Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts? >

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > > The whole point I would like to make is that truth depends greatly on > your point of view. Don't recite rhetoric, think in a logical and > scientific manor, don't cloud the issue, define the problem an

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread Bryan O'Neal
JD - Good I am taking this in a very light hatred manor - I was hoping it came across that way through email :) As for the American empire and current illegal activity; it does not justify the breaking of laws in any way - I was retorting to the "liberal" (or conservative not sure which it was) cu

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread James Finstrom
one makes a comment is > "Have you read the law?". I have and it is very tame. > > > Keith Smith > > --- On *Tue, 5/18/10, JD Austin * wrote: > > > From: JD Austin > > Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts? > To: &

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread keith smith
I agree.  The first question one should ask when someone makes a comment is "Have you read the law?".  I have and it is very tame. Keith Smith --- On Tue, 5/18/10, JD Austin wrote: From: JD Austin Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread keith smith
have no idea what is happening right here in our own community. If you want the truth turn off your TV and start reading the blogs.  The real truth is our there.    Keith Smith --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Ariel Gold wrote: From: Ariel Gold Subject: Re: OT ditching

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
All rhetoric aside... for anyone actually interested the text of the law fueling all of this debate you can read it here: http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 06:58, James Finstrom wrote: > Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the > issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of > arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt > those they are trying to p

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread James Finstrom
Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt those they are trying to protect. I am a fan of an eye for an eye but these boycotts end

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 21:41, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > Did you not even read you cited references? > Not that I am complaining. I think it was a bold move that paid off > very, very, well. But denying the nature of the conflict is like > saying the Civil War

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Ariel Gold
Sure, some of the radical rhetoric, on both sides, sounds scary, and I understand people are upset and angry. While I don't think a listserv lends to people understanding each other on a volatile issue like this, I thought I'd still share this link from the conservative think tank, the Cato Institu

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Indeed I did ;) On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Tim Noeding wrote: > Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how > the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads? > > from my DROID > > On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" > wrote: > > Did you not even read you cit

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Tim Noeding
Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads? from my DROID On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I called you

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I called your mama fat beat you up and then drove off down the street in your car after tossing you a few bucks and a pick of your naked sister out the window onto your limp body and then when the cops showed up made you say thank you a

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread JD Austin
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 20:12, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > Well... we did steal it from Mexico. In a style that is reminiscent of the > Romans but is still distinctly American. In truth it is an awesome tail of > we want it, we can make claim for it, we can take

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Well... we did steal it from Mexico. In a style that is reminiscent of the Romans but is still distinctly American. In truth it is an awesome tail of we want it, we can make claim for it, we can take it, and we are so cool the rest of the world will demand you apologize to us for making us take it

Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread keith smith
The Tucson Unified School District is teaching La Raza classes and they teach this is AZLAN and this part of the US was stolen from Mexico.  If you do not believe me Google both. I saw this type of festering mess in Cochise County in 1981 and 1982 when a group of radicals moved into Miracle Val

Re: [OT] ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Joshua Zeidner
people living elsewhere don't have a perceptual problem with Arizona. Last time I checked over 65% of the country is in total support of us. You need to stop watching the idiot box. -jmz On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 00:40 +, huerta...@gm

Re: [OT] ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread keith smith
Give us more detail.  In your opinion, what is the perceptual problem that others have and how does this thread illustrate that perceptual problem? Keith Smith --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Craig White wrote: From: Craig White Subject: Re: [OT] ditching Apple products due

Re: [OT] ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-17 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 00:40 +, huerta...@gmail.com wrote: > It should be marked as OT. The thread doesn't really have anything to do with > Linux anymore. it never did. It does however illustrate the perceptual problem that people living elsewhere have with Arizona. Craig -- This me

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread joe
How about WAG for win admin group? I cringe every time I see the name microslop --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mail

Re: (OT)Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

2010-05-16 Thread keith smith
I'm all for people being immigrated legally IF they want to embrace the American Dream.  However I do not want people here that believe we owe them something or think we stole this part of the country from Mexico. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s&feature=player_embedded#! -

Re: OT: facebook intrusiveness

2010-05-16 Thread joe
> What's the beef anyway? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvwtGPkAIQ I watched this video, but I don't understand what its point is or what action is necessary to do or to avoid whatever vulnerability was shown. What is a "metasploit" anyway? --

Re: OT: facebook intrusiveness

2010-05-16 Thread Lisa Kachold
What's the beef anyway? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvwtGPkAIQ On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:09 PM, wrote: > >> >> I don't use facebook much ... mainly only to respond to friends and family >> who send stuff to me. It just seems rather

Re: OT: facebook intrusiveness

2010-05-16 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:09 PM, wrote: > > I don't use facebook much ... mainly only to respond to friends and family > who send stuff to me. It just seems rather intrusive and confusing to me. > > Recently, facebook has been popping up a window that wants me to confirm > some links that it "th

Re: OT: facebook intrusiveness

2010-05-15 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 17:09 -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: > I don't use facebook much ... mainly only to respond to friends and family > who send stuff to me. It just seems rather intrusive and confusing to me. > > Recently, facebook has been popping up a window that wants me to confirm > som

Re: OT: facebook intrusiveness

2010-05-15 Thread Bryan O'Neal
To expand thier mass apieral they have, for your convenyance, assocaited everything in your profile (aka the music you like, places you worked, schools you attended, etc) withthose orginizations "fan" pages. Accepting (leveeing the link cheked) allowes you to see posts from those fan pages and give

Re: OT: free MPEG-2 decoder

2010-05-07 Thread Stephen
I third VLC :-) On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Craig White wrote: >> VLC >> >> I have used it on Linux but I know there is a version for every OS >> >> Craig > > I second VLC as a good choice.  Works well on Windows and has maybe > all the co

Re: OT: free MPEG-2 decoder

2010-05-07 Thread keith smith
Thank you and Craig White.  I downloaded it and it works great!! Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Alan Dayley wrote: From: Alan Dayley Subject: Re: OT: free MPEG-2 decoder To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 9:34 PM On

Re: OT: free MPEG-2 decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Alan Dayley
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Craig White wrote: > VLC > > I have used it on Linux but I know there is a version for every OS > > Craig I second VLC as a good choice. Works well on Windows and has maybe all the codecs known to man. I think. Alan --

Re: OT: free MPEG-2 decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 20:28 -0700, keith smith wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm running XP and need a free MPEG-2 decoder so I can watch DVD's. I > see there are some however who knows who to trust. > > Any recommendations? > VLC I have used it on Linux but I know there is a version for every OS

Re: OT: How to make a simple "vote-poll" ?

2010-05-03 Thread joe
Thanks James. I'll check this out. > Quick + Easy = google docs, stores forms in a spreadsheet and > is embeddable with little effort --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change yo

Re: OT: How to make a simple "vote-poll" ?

2010-05-03 Thread James Finstrom
Quick + Easy = google docs, stores forms in a spreadsheet and is embeddable with little effort On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM, wrote: > > How can I make a simple "vote-poll" to make the mockup > shown at the following link work (as simple and concise > as possible) so I can add it to my website

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Stephen
I use a combination of Google voice and my cell, i do have a landline as well so i can avoid the cost of a teenager with a cellphone and i use my land-line via Cox, and for the price its very cheap. There are also a number of voice mail services and similar packages. they can take several lines m

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread joe
faxzero.com > What fax service does he use? I've searched for a fax service like that, > but have never found one. > Thanks, --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail s

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread AZ Pete
I asked him and he said the service he used was bought out by myfax.com. He said he was grandfathered in at a lower price. But, feel free to check out their current service. Peter Eric Cope wrote: What fax service does he use? I've searched for a fax service like that, but have never found one

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Eric Cope
What fax service does he use? I've searched for a fax service like that, but have never found one. Thanks, Eric On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:10 AM, AZ Pete wrote: > I have Cox for Internet, Phone and Cable. > > Several months ago I was getting irritated with the high cost of the land > line phone

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Daniel Stasinski
> Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL service? I'm using Cox for internet. On top of that I use SkypeIn/SkypeOut for my phone service which runs $60 a year total. To keep it simple, I only give out my Google Voice number. I use efax.com for faxes. Near the end o

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread joe
> If you have a cell phone, consider dropping the land line phone > service entirely. I have Qwest DSL, with no phone service. > > If you think you need a phone line for fax, reconsider your faxing > needs. Try life without fax. When you need to send a fax, there are > services that will likely co

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread AZ Pete
I have Cox for Internet, Phone and Cable. Several months ago I was getting irritated with the high cost of the land line phone portion of my bill. What I did was to get a Google voice number, which provided me with free long distance and voice mail (as well a many other excellent features - al

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Eric Cope
VOIP? On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > j...@actionline.com wrote: > >> Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL >> service? >> >> Qwest has just raised their rates and I think some of the charges are >> unreasonable, particularly for voice mail an

Re: OT: Telephone land line and DSL alternatives?

2010-04-30 Thread Eric Shubert
j...@actionline.com wrote: Are there any alternatives to Qwest for land-line telephone and DSL service? Qwest has just raised their rates and I think some of the charges are unreasonable, particularly for voice mail and the portion of the DSL service that goes to M$ (which is the most irritating

Re: OT: digital camcorder that has frame stabilization

2010-04-28 Thread Micah DesJardins
Probably overkill for posting to YouTube but I bought a Sony HDR-CX150 and I'm pretty happy with it. $550 out the door over at Best Buy, it has 16GB internal Flash plus an SD card slot for additional recording time. It will do 2+ hours in HD on internal memory and battery life is around that time

Re: OT: digital camcorder that has frame stabilization

2010-04-28 Thread Mike Schwartz
My (cheap) Kodak camera, might not be the kind you want, but it does use an SD card (very easy "plug in" type) for memory, and I literally have used it with a tripod before, and it has both optical zoom and, a decent number of pixels (for still pictures at least) so that you can do some digital "da

Re: OT: digital camcorder that has frame stabilization

2010-04-28 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Not too specific, since it's hard to do that without more information, but the Canon Vixia line of HD camcorders are excellent and most models record both to internal SSD and removable flash cards (the internal is faster, and for short clips at higher quality you can record to internal then copy

Re: OT: digital camcorder that has frame stabilization

2010-04-28 Thread Eric Cope
I'd recommend something that records to digital media (SD cards, hard drive) rather than tape. SD Cards allow for variable data rates (constant quality), allowing data rates to increase (reduced compression) during high activity. Tape driven cameras have constant data rates, meaning when things wit

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