Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 11 September 2006 02:26, Anthony L. Testi wrote: Hi Anthony! Once you understand liberal hate, you will have the answer. The C-crowd used to call it "spin". When the Ds do something, it is statesmanship, when the Rs do the *same* thing, it is lying. Of course, the president never sai

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 11 September 2006 15:13, Anthony L. Testi wrote: > Far from knee-jerk thou. I attempt to think about thinng Hi Anthony! Yes, I too attempt to think about thinngs. Every nnight. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscrip

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 11 September 2006 15:22, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Sep 11, 2006, at 2:38 PM, john harvey wrote: > > To lie means to knowingly make a false statement. A statement that > > is made, > > based on faulty information, is not necessarily a lie. > > To know that there is conflicting information

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Jerry Wolper
Anthony, Good to have you back. > Are (some) people upset because they think President Bush lied to them > for the reasons we went into Iraq? If so was it because they > belived what they think he said and felt that we should go, later > finding out that it was a 'lie' so felt betrayed? Or maybe

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan <> wrote: > Most conservatives aren't knee-jerk. Conservatism is the "thinking > man"'s philosophy, while Liberalism is the "feeling man"'s > philosophy. The last time I checked a knee-jerk doesn't require any > thinking. > > "I feel your pain" as opposed to "I understand what

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan <> wrote: > Just remember: Liberalism is a mental disorder. > > Do we try to understand the motivations of schizophrenics or do we > try to treat them with the proper medication? We should treat > liberals the same way. Mikie needs to get back on the Meds cycle again. I gues

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Stephen the Cook
john harvey <> wrote: > To lie means to knowingly make a false statement. A statement that is > made, based on faulty information, is not necessarily a lie. It's the > old truth tables from Logic 101. The conclusions he reached were the > same as the Democrats who were given the same information an

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, September 11, 2006 3:24 PM Ed Leafe wrote: > Correction: the war was declared over by President Bush in May 2003. >We are now an occupying army in a defeated country. Not according to one of my favorite sites, http://www.dubyaspeak.com: WILLIAMS: Do you have any moments of dou

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 11, 2006, at 2:38 PM, john harvey wrote: We are at war, get over it. Correction: the war was declared over by President Bush in May 2003. We are now an occupying army in a defeated country. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com _

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
I've probably told this story before, but I never forget being in San Francisco touring around looking for Haight-Ashbury. I'm walking around with my girlfriend and a fairly-expensive Nikon camera around my neck. A man in a dress came up to us with a black eye and asked whether he could take our

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 11, 2006, at 2:38 PM, john harvey wrote: To lie means to knowingly make a false statement. A statement that is made, based on faulty information, is not necessarily a lie. To know that there is conflicting information and to knowingly disregard information that fails to advance the

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
> the result is that most of my conclusions do seem to > land in the conservative realm. > > -Original Message- > >From: Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sep 11, 2006 2:59 PM > >To: ProFox Email List > >Subject: RE: [OT] Another Bus

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Anthony L. Testi
2:59 PM >To: ProFox Email List >Subject: RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie > >Anthony's the Foxpro list's Conservative Prodigal Son. > Welcome back, by the way. > Anthony L. Testi ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscripti

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Anthony L. Testi > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:42 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie > > 'We are at war, get over it." > Was that comment directed at me?

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread john harvey
If the shoe fits, go ahead and put it on. If not, discard the comment. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony L. Testi Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:42 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie &#x

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
t: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:30 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie > > Are (some) people upset because they think President > Bush lied to them for > the reasons we went into Iraq? If so was it because > they belived what they > think he sa

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, September 11, 2006 2:40 PM Michael Madigan wrote: >Oregon, Washington and California are liberal sewers, as you've no doubt know first hand. For some >reason the crazies gravitated there. It is the LEFT coast! 8-) David L. Crooks ___ P

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Anthony L. Testi
'We are at war, get over it." Was that comment directed at me? If so why? Anthony > -Original Message- >From: john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To lie means to knowingly make a false statement. A statement that is made, >based on faulty information, is not necessarily a lie. It's the ol

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Just remember: Liberalism is a mental disorder. Do we try to understand the motivations of schizophrenics or do we try to treat them with the proper medication? We should treat liberals the same way. There is a huge number of people who think the World Trade Center was rigged with explosives a

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread john harvey
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony L. Testi Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie Are (some) people upset because they think President Bush lied to them for the reasons we went into Iraq? If so was it because they belived what they thi

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Anthony L. Testi
Are (some) people upset because they think President Bush lied to them for the reasons we went into Iraq? If so was it because they belived what they think he said and felt that we should go, later finding out that it was a 'lie' so felt betrayed? Or maybe they 'knew' it was a lie at the start

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
gt; Of Ed Leafe > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:34 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie > > On Sep 11, 2006, at 1:03 PM, john harvey wrote: > > > Well, we ALL linked them together, but the > president never said it. > > I w

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread john harvey
Yep, old Bush is pretty smart for a dummy! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:34 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie On Sep 11, 2006, at 1:03 PM, john harvey wrote

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 11, 2006, at 1:03 PM, john harvey wrote: Well, we ALL linked them together, but the president never said it. I will grant that he and everyone else in the administration was exceedingly careful not to utter those exact words. However, if every time I spoke about you I mentioned "ch

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
; > John > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Michael Madigan > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:53 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie > > No one ever linked 911 with Iraq

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread john harvey
M To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie No one ever linked 911 with Iraq. That is not true --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 11, 2006, at 2:26 AM, Anthony L. Testi wrote: > > > The following quote from the online WSJ summerizes > my thi

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
No one ever linked 911 with Iraq. That is not true --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 11, 2006, at 2:26 AM, Anthony L. Testi wrote: > > > The following quote from the online WSJ summerizes > my thinking, but > > I am open to changing it. > > > > "This administration never said t

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Bill Arnold
> > > The following quote from the online WSJ summerizes my thinking, but > > I am open to changing it. > > > > "This administration never said that the 9/11 attacks were > > orchestrated between Saddam and al Qaeda," Bush said. "We did say > > there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein

RE: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, September 11, 2006 2:27 AM Anthony L. Testi wrote: >I'm wondering ( Not a joke, not a baiting ,really wondering. ) when/where did the President say that >Saddam had anything directly to do with 9/11? >From http://www.dubyaspeak.com/freshdubya.phtml: DUBYA: Imagine a world in which S

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Anthony L. Testi
Thank you Ed for providing this information. It will take me a day or two before I have the time to read it. Anthony -Original Message- >From: Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 11, 2006 8:01 AM >To: ProFox Email List >Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie > >

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 11, 2006, at 2:26 AM, Anthony L. Testi wrote: The following quote from the online WSJ summerizes my thinking, but I am open to changing it. "This administration never said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al Qaeda," Bush said. "We did say there were numero

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Madigan
He never did. You win the cupie doll. --- "Anthony L. Testi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About to step into a mine field, lets see how far I > can get before it blows up in my face... > > I'm wondering ( Not a joke, not a baiting ,really > wondering. ) when/where did the President say that >

Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

2006-09-10 Thread Anthony L. Testi
About to step into a mine field, lets see how far I can get before it blows up in my face... I'm wondering ( Not a joke, not a baiting ,really wondering. ) when/where did the President say that Saddam had anything directly to do with 9/11? Was it in the UN speech, or around that time? I've h