[eventsource] Processing comments from the 10-Mar-2011 LCWD

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, April 21 was the comment deadline for the March 10 LCWD of the Server-Sent Events spec [SSE-LC]. Since that LC was published, I noted 1 set of comments and 1 new bug: * CfC: server-sent-events; 15-Apr-2011; Ian Clelland

[workers] Processing comments from 10-Mar-2011 LCWD

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, April 21 was the comment deadline for the March 10 LCWD of the Web Workers spec [WW-LC]. Since that LC was published, I noted 2 set of comments and 2 new bugs: * Adrian Bateman; 9-Mar-2011 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0877.html * Travis

[webstorage] Plan to address open Bugs?

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
? Original Message Subject:Re: [webstorage] Moving Web Storage back to Last Call WD Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:19:51 +0900 From: ext Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org To: Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch CC: Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com

Re: [webstorage] Plan to address open Bugs?

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Well, I guess the good news is that (at the time of this writing), there aren't 355 bugs ;). All - Inputs and proposals for these bugs are encouraged! On Apr/28/2011 2:33 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: What is the plan to address the following Web

Call for Test Suite Contributions (WebApps testing process now considered operational)

2011-04-27 Thread Arthur Barstow
/webapps/wiki/Submission (RSN, I will move the two previous test suite submissions in Mercurial to the new structure). -Art Barstow Original Message Subject:CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:02:16 -0400 From: Arthur Barstow

Re: [widgets] Dig Sig spec

2011-04-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Marcos, On Apr/25/2011 11:53 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: I've been reviewing and trying to implement the widgets dig sig spec and I'm finding that there is a lot of redundancies and inconsistencies with the way it is written. Although the conformance requirements are fairly clear, the

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Rafael, On Apr/22/2011 8:35 PM, ext Rafael Weinstein wrote: Myself and a few other chromium folks have been working on a design for a formalized separation between View and Model in the browser, with needs of web applications being the primary motivator. Our ideas are implemented as an

Re: [widgets] Dig Sig spec

2011-04-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/26/2011 7:40 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On Tuesday, April 26, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi Marcos, On Apr/25/2011 11:53 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: I've been reviewing and trying to implement the widgets dig sig spec and I'm finding that there is a lot of redundancies

[widgets] Proposal to update Dig Sig spec; deadline May 3

2011-04-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
. -Thanks, AB [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/0306.html Original Message Subject:Re: [widgets] Dig Sig spec Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:19:44 +0200 From: ext Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com To: Arthur Barstow art.bars

Re: [widgets] Widget Updates tests?

2011-04-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Thanks for the update Richard. Is this spec ready for LCWD publication? If not, what remains to be done before it is LC-ready? Also, I would appreciate any implementation data you can share so we can update [1] -Thanks, AB [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WidgetImplementation On

[widgets] Reminder: Last Call Working Draft of Widgets PC; deadline May 1

2011-04-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:22:35 -0500 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org Marcos would like to publish a new Last Call Working Draft of the Widget Packaging and Configuration spec and this is a Call

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
. Thanks, Adrian. On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:22 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: I agree the need for clear test suite status is implied and should be explicit. I've added a new requirement for this to [1]. As to how this requirement is addressed, perhaps we should adopt/re-use some existing good

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/18/2011 12:29 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Garrett Smithdhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: The superfluous, badly worded maladvice remains: Within each test one may have a number of asserts. Awkward wording to explicitly mention that such bad practice is

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
I agree the need for clear test suite status is implied and should be explicit. I've added a new requirement for this to [1]. As to how this requirement is addressed, perhaps we should adopt/re-use some existing good practice; otherwise perhaps we can use a Status/Readme file in each

Reminder: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Server-sent Events; deadline April 21

2011-04-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Server-sent Events; deadline April 21 Resent-Date:Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:36:09 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:34:08 -0500 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com

Re: Reminder: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers; deadline April 21

2011-04-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/14/2011 6:39 PM, ext Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Request for Comments for the March 10 Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-workers-20110310/ If you have any comments, please

CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
I have updated WebApps' testing process documents to reflect comments submitted to the initial draft process [1]. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to agree to the testing process as described in: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Testing http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Submission

Please use public-webapps-testsuite for testing discussions

2011-04-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
The public-webapps-testsu...@w3.org list is now operational: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps-testsuite/ Please use this list for WebApps' testing discussions. To subscribe to this list, send a subscribe e-mail to: public-webapps-testsuite-requ...@w3.org For discussions

[FileAPI] Seeking status and plan

2011-04-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Arun, Jonas - what is the status/plan for the File API spec? What remains to be done before the spec is LC ready? (Tracker shows 0 bugs and WebApps does not have a Bugzilla component for this spec). -Thanks, AB

Re: [FileAPI] Seeking status and plan

2011-04-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/11/2011 11:20 AM, ext Arun Ranganathan wrote: On 4/11/11 9:38 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi Arun, Jonas - what is the status/plan for the File API spec? What remains to be done before the spec is LC ready? Art: A few things need to be done: 1. There continue to be a few spec. nits

CfC: publish new Working Draft of Indexed Database API; deadline April 16

2011-04-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
The Editors of the Indexed Database API would like to publish a new Working Draft of their spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do so: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndexedDB/raw-file/tip/Overview.html If one agrees with this proposal, it: a) indicates support for publishing a new WD; and b)

[IndexedDB] Features not included in the first version of the spec

2011-04-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Jonas created a list of IndexedDB features that are not included in the first version of the spec. Those features are documented in the following wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/IndexedDatabaseFeatures Comments on this document are welcome. -Art Barstow

Re: RfC: WebApps Testing Process

2011-04-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/6/2011 6:33 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Garrett Smithdhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: | Within each test one may have a number of asserts. I don't agree. SRP applies to functions and also unit tests. Limiting test functions to one assertion keeps them

CfC: publish new WD of WebSockets API; deadline April 13

2011-04-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new Working Draft of the WebSockets API: http://dev.w3.org/html5/websockets/ Among the reasons to publish a new WD are: the last publication of this spec in w3.org/TR/ was over one year ago, recent discussions on this spec's LC readiness [1]

Re: RfC: WebApps Testing Process

2011-04-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/3/2011 6:31 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: I'm not sure we need to explicitly designate test suite maintainers. I'd be okay with not having specific maintainers, but then we need to figure out some good process for

Re: RfC: WebApps Testing Process

2011-04-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/6/2011 11:22 AM, ext Garrett Smith wrote: On 4/6/11, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On Apr/3/2011 6:31 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: [...] I think all of the substantive comments to date only affect

Please use public-test-infra list for testharness.js discussions [Was: RfC: WebApps Testing Process]

2011-04-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
Process Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:45:02 -0700 From: ext Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com To: Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com CC: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org On 3/31/11, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: 4. http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Harness

CfC: publish new WDs of File API: {Writer, Directories and System}; deadline April 11

2011-04-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus to publish new Working Drafts of Eric's two File API specs (last published about 6 months ago): 1. File API: Writer http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/file-system/file-writer.html 2. File API: Directories and System: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/file-system/file-dir-sys.html

Re: Web SQL Database specification

2011-04-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ I don't know why this e-mail dated 31-March-2011 just showed up in my Inbox today ... ] On Mar/31/2011 9:25 AM, ext Sylvain GREZE wrote: Hello there, I write this email to let you know about our surprise when we saw that the Web SQL Database is no longer part of the html5 specification.

Re: How to standardize new Offline Web app features? [Was Re: Offline Web Applications status]

2011-04-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
think that could help with making faster progress? -Michael On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Michael, All, On Mar/31/2011 6:18 PM, ext Michael Nordman wrote: I have in mind several

Re: Mail List Etiquette [Was: WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?]

2011-04-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Yes I agree, as has been said before on this list, that comments are always welcome and let's all please make sure those comments are consistent with the principles to which I referred. -Art Barstow On Apr/1/2011 12:21 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Arthur

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/1/2011 3:39 PM, ext Glenn Maynard wrote: If SQLite was to be used as a web standard, I'd hope that it wouldn't show up in a spec as simply do what SQLite does, but as a complete spec of SQLite's behavior. FYI, the Web SQL Database NOTE says: [[

RfC: WebApps Testing Process

2011-03-31 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, During the 2011 TPAC meeting, I agreed to an action (action-611) to work with Chaals and WebApps' Team Contacts to define the group's testing processes. To that end, I created the following documents: 1. http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Testing - some high level goals, and links

Re: RfC: WebApps Testing Process

2011-03-31 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Mar/31/2011 10:04 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: On Mar 31, 2011, at 14:04 , Arthur Barstow wrote: 1. What is the level of uptake of testharness.js within the HTML WG and other WGs? If any of these groups provide usage information, what are the URIs? Do any WGs make testharness.js's use

Mail List Etiquette [Was: WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?]

2011-03-31 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is painful to read. WebSQL development died because SQLite, the most widely-deployed database software in the world, was too good? That sounds like a catastrophic failure of the W3C process. -- Glenn Maynard Hear. I am starting to think that Mozilla will step up and provide an

Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-03-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
, Arthur Barstow a écrit : This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of Hallvord's Clipboard API and Events spec: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html If you have any comments or concerns about this proposal, please send them to public-webapps by April 5

Re: websockets protocol getting solid - cross-reviews; deadline April 15

2011-03-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All - I see that Hixie already submitted comments and I encourage others, especially those that have participated in the implementation of the Web Sockets API, to also submit comments. All comments should be submitted to h...@ietf.org by April 15 at the latest. If anyone in WebApps wants

How many ways to save store app data?

2011-03-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, Louis-rémi's thread [1] on AppCache led to discussions about other storage related APIs including DataCache, Google Gears, IDB and the File * APIs. Are there are any good resources that describe the various storage APIs (from the app developer's perspective) and compare their main

[FYI] W3C Workshop: Identity in the Browser; Position Paper deadline 22 April

2011-03-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
Earlier today the W3C announced an Identity in the Browser Workshop May 24-25 in Mountain View CA US. The deadline for Position Papers is April 22: Identity in the Browser 24-25 May 2011 Mountain View, CA, USA Hosted by the Mozilla Foundation http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ As the

Re: Minor comments on Widgets

2011-03-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
Marcos - Addison's comments were submitted during the comment period of a proposal to publish a new LCWD of this spec. On Mar/17/2011 7:21 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: (accidentally hit reply instead of reply all, so sending again) On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Phillips,

[admin] TPAC2011 Oct 31-Nov 4 in Santa Clara

2011-03-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
The W3C staff is trying to determine which WGs will meet f2f during the Oct 31 - Nov 4 TPAC meeting week in Santa Clara, CA US. The general format for the week is the same as TPAC 2011: [[ Schedule for the week: Group Meetings: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday Plenary Day: Wednesday

CfC: to publish WG Note of HTTP Caching and Serving spec; deadline March 20

2011-03-16 Thread Arthur Barstow
://www.w3.org/TR/webdatabase/#status-of-this-document If anyone objects to this, please speak up by March 20 at the latest. -AB On Mar/3/2011 8:25 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi All, WebApps' Programmable HTTP Caching and Serving spec was last updated by Nikunj in January 2010. Since then, my

RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events; deadline June 1

2011-03-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Request for Comments for the March 10 Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-progress-events-20110310/ If you have any comments, please send them to the following list by 1 June 2011 at the latest: public-webapps@w3.org -Art Barstow

RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Server-sent Events; deadline April 21

2011-03-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Request for Comments for the March 10 Last Call Working Draft of Server-sent Events: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-eventsource-20110310/ If you have any comments, please send them to the following list by 21 April 2011 at the latest: public-webapps@w3.org -Art Barstow

RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers; deadline April 21

2011-03-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Request for Comments for the March 10 Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-workers-20110310/ If you have any comments, please send them to the following list by 21 April 2011 at the latest: public-webapps@w3.org -Art Barstow

Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Ian, Leigh, Dimitri, All, On March 11, the agenda of the so-called Hypertext Coordination Group [HCG] will include XBL [XBL] to continue related discussions they had during their Feb 11 call [Feb-11-Mins]. I wasn't present at that call but based on those meeting minutes and what Leigh said

Re: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers; deadline March 7

2011-03-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
terminate W4 as previously outlined. At this point, all dedicated workers owned by 'D' would be terminated leaving no orphans. ___ From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Barstow Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:31 AM

[widgets] CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Widget PC; deadline March 15

2011-03-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
Marcos would like to publish a new Last Call Working Draft of the Widget Packaging and Configuration spec and this is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ The changes since the last publication (26-October-2010) are summarized in the spec:

RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Ontology for Media Resource 1.0; deadline March 31

2011-03-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ Just WebApps ] Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to the Media Annotations WG. If anyone in WebApps wants to propose an official WG response, please do so ASAP, in reply to this email so the WebApps WG can discuss it. -Thanks, AB On Mar/8/2011

CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of HTML5 Web Messaging; deadline March 14

2011-03-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new Last Call Working Draft of the HTML5 Web Messaging spec based on the following version of the spec (copied from ED version 1.77): http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/publish/LCWD-webmessaging-201103TBD.html This CfC satisfies the group's

Re: CfC: publish a new Working Draft of DOM Core; comment deadline March 2

2011-03-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
list. -Art Barstow [DS] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0687.html [AvK] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0722.html On Feb/23/2011 11:20 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Anne and Ms2ger (representing Mozilla Foundation) have continued

Re: [postmsg] Is HTML5 Web Messaging ready for Last Call Working Draft?

2011-03-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
that harm implementations without having their ok # [21:21] Hixie so whether it's in LC or REC or ED doesn't make any difference to me or the implementors as far as i can tell :-) # [21:21] ArtB Hixie - ok; good to hear! ]] -AB On Feb/28/2011 3:09 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Hixie, All

CfC: to stop work on Programmable HTTP Caching and Serving spec; deadline March 10

2011-03-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, WebApps' Programmable HTTP Caching and Serving spec was last updated by Nikunj in January 2010. Since then, my attempt to determine the level of interest in this spec via the tread below (archived at [1]) received no real traction. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to formally

Re: CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events spec; deadline March 7

2011-03-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Mar/2/2011 7:07 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: The deadline for comments is March 9. The deadline for comments is March 7.

CfC: publish Last Call Working draft of Server-sent Events; deadline March 7

2011-02-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new Last Call Working Draft of the Server-sent Events spec based on the following version of the spec (copied from ED version 1.161): http://dev.w3.org/html5/eventsource/publish/LCWD-eventsource-201103TBD.html This CfC satisfies the group's

CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers; deadline March 7

2011-02-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new Last Call Working Draft of the Web Workers spec based on the following version of the spec (copied from ED version 1.276): http://dev.w3.org/html5/workers/publish/LCWD-workers-201103TBD.html This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to

[postmsg] Is HTML5 Web Messaging ready for Last Call Working Draft?

2011-02-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, Is the HTML5 Web Messaging spec ready for Last Call Working Draft? http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/ If not, what must be done before it is ready for LC and what is the time frame to complete the work? Bugzilla [1] reports one bug for this component without a Resolution and

[workers], [eventsource] Re: several messages

2011-02-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Feb/24/2011 8:50 PM, ext Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Given the information below, I think it would be useful to move this spec to a test-ready state. That is, publish it as a Last Call

WebPerformance WG and Visibility API, Yield and Continue, requestAnimationFrame

2011-02-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
FYI, the Web Performance WG [WebPerf] intends to add Visibility API, Yield and Continue, requestAnimationFrame to their Charter when it is renewed/updated (in the next month or two): See their recent meeting minutes for some details: http://www.w3.org/2011/02/23-webperf-minutes.html#item01

Re: [workers] Moving the Web Workers spec back to Last Call WD

2011-02-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hickson wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Regarding re-publishing the Web Workers spec [ED] as a new Last Call Working Draft ... Bugzilla shows one open bug [Bugs]: 11818 - As documented in the Creating workers section, a worker *must* be an external script. http://www.w3.org

Re: [eventsource] Moving Server-sent Events spec back to Last Call

2011-02-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hickson wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Regarding re-publishing the Server-sent Events spec [ED] as a new Last Call Working Draft ... 1. 11835 - EventSource must support cross-domain requests (ala CORS) http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11835 This will be supported

CfC: publish a new Working Draft of DOM Core; comment deadline March 2

2011-02-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne and Ms2ger (representing Mozilla Foundation) have continued to work on the DOM Core spec and they propose publishing a new Working Draft of the spec: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html As such, this is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new WD of DOM Core.

Re: Status of Selectors API Level 1 Candidate

2011-02-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Feb/22/2011 4:40 PM, ext Mike Taylor wrote: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/selectors-api-testsuite/003.html I get a 404. The above is missing and x and should be: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/selectors-api-testsuite/003.xhtml

Re: Testing Requirements

2011-02-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Feb/17/2011 5:04 AM, ext James Graham wrote: On 02/17/2011 09:55 AM, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: (I see that Art documented most of this in http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Testing_Requirements but thought this ought to be confirmed on the list) Is there some way to make put this

Re: [DOMCore] Rename to DOM Core?

2011-02-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne, PLH, All, Given we already have RECs for DOM Level {2,3} Core, the proposed name does seem a little bit odd, but if the naming convention going forward for other DOM specs will be level-less e.g. DOM {Range, Parsing}, then the proposal would be consistent with these later specs so it

Seeking pre-LCWD comments for Progress Events spec; deadline March 1

2011-02-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne would like to move the Progress Events spec to Last Call Working Draft (LCWD): http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/ Note the Process Document states the following regarding the significance/meaning of a LCWD: [[ http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#last-call Purpose:

[eventsource] Moving Server-sent Events spec back to Last Call

2011-02-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, Regarding re-publishing the Server-sent Events spec [ED] as a new Last Call Working Draft ... The latest ED does not explicitly identify any issues. Bugzilla shows two open bugs for this spec [Bugs]: 1. 11835 - EventSource must support cross-domain requests (ala CORS)

[webstorage] Moving Web Storage back to Last Call WD

2011-02-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, Regarding re-publishing the Web Storage spec [ED] as a new Last Call Working Draft ... Bugzilla shows no open bugs for this spec [Bugs] and the latest ED includes the following: [[ http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/#issues The use of the storage mutex to avoid race conditions

[workers] Moving the Web Workers spec back to Last Call WD

2011-02-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, Regarding re-publishing the Web Workers spec [ED] as a new Last Call Working Draft ... Bugzilla shows one open bug [Bugs]: 11818 - As documented in the Creating workers section, a worker *must* be an external script. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11818 What

Re: [webstorage] Moving Web Storage back to Last Call WD

2011-02-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
The Web Storage ED is actually: http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/

Re: [widgets] New version of PC Ready for pub

2011-02-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Feb/3/2011 2:15 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On 2/3/11 8:08 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: On Feb/1/2011 1:30 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: I have updated the Wigets PC spec for publication as a LC. This new draft specifies the defaultlocale attribute Is support for this proposed attribute

Re: [widgets] New version of PC Ready for pub

2011-02-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Feb/1/2011 1:30 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: I have updated the Wigets PC spec for publication as a LC. This new draft specifies the defaultlocale attribute Is support for this proposed attribute going to be added to the Widget object? (I don't see it mentioned in latest ED of the Widget

Re: [widgets] Questions regarding to Test Suite for the XML Digital Signatures For Widgets Specification

2011-02-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Marcos, On Jan/31/2011 2:18 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On 1/31/11 7:52 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Andrey - on January 26, Marcos proposed changing the c14n algorithm in [1] and [2] and notified the group in [3] that he updated the Editor's Draft [ED] to reflect his proposal. He included

[widgets] Questions regarding to Test Suite for the XML Digital Signatures For Widgets Specification

2011-01-31 Thread Arthur Barstow
Andrey - on January 26, Marcos proposed changing the c14n algorithm in [1] and [2] and notified the group in [3] that he updated the Editor's Draft [ED] to reflect his proposal. He included rationale in [1]. Marcos - in what way(s) does your proposal break the signer and validator conformance

What is happening with XBL?

2011-01-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ Bcc: set to: public-fo...@w3.org ; please set Reply-To: to just public-webapps@w3.org ] XBL Fans, In case you missed it, about a week ago, Anne van Kesteren wrote a nice blog about some of the recent activities with XBL including pointers to some related work by Dimitri Glazkov (e.g. Use

CfC: publish new WDs of Sever-sent Events, Workers and Storage

2011-01-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
It appears the Editor Drafts of the December 2009 Last Call Working Drafts of Sever-sent Events, Web Workers and Web Storage, have changed enough such that their next publication is a new Working Draft (not a Candidate Recommendation). As such, this is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish new

The Emperor's New APIs: On the (In)Secure Usage of New Client-side Primitives

2011-01-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie recently mentioned to me the following paper from UC Berkeley that includes some analysis of the Web Storage [webstorage] and HTML5 Web Messaging [webmessaging] specs. The Abstract: [[ http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~sch/w2sp2010ena.pdf Several new browser primitives have been pro- posed

Re: Bug reports from jessica.w3.org?

2011-01-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jan/12/2011 5:55 PM, ext Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Axel Rauschmayera...@rauschma.de wrote: Why do we get these? Could we have opt-in and not send them to the mailing list (at least the majority of them which seems to contain nonsense)? You can just have your

Re: clipboard events

2011-01-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Hallvord, All, During last November's TPAC meeting, we briefly discussed [1] the Clipboard Operations spec [2] (last published by the Web API WG in 2006 [3]). The general consensus then, was that it would be abandoned given there was no active editor and some related functionality is being

Re: Call for Editors for Server-sent Events, Web Storage, and Web Workers

2010-12-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Doug Schepersschep...@w3.org wrote: But we are looking for more than someone to just push TR copies, we want someone who (like Ian) understands the issues, and knows how to help drive progress through consensus and technical expertise, and who can dedicate

Re: Seeking status of Server-sent Events, Web Storage and Web Workers

2010-12-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
[Issues] http://www.whatwg.org/issues/ [Bugzilla] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/query.cgi?format=advanced On Nov/29/2010 4:21 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Arthur Barstow wrote: Ian - regarding the following specs that ended LC on June 30, do you have some type of comment

[eventsource] Some data re Server-sent Events LC

2010-12-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Re event-source spec, a few weeks ago I: reviewed the Bug list, reviewed e-mails submitted to public-webapps re the Dec 2009 LC and compared the LC version with the latest ED. I did not review WHATWG Issues for this spec [Issues] because I didn't know it existed. = Bugzilla: 4 bugs filed: 3

Re: Structured clone in WebStorage

2010-12-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Nov/29/2010 9:59 AM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: On Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:01 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: For over a year now, the WebStorage spec has stipulated that Local/SessionStorage store and retrieve objects per the structured clone algorithm rather than strings. And yet there

Widget Embedding [was: Re: [widgets] running widgets in a regular web page ???]

2010-11-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Peter - as Nathan alludes, there have been threads related to web application embedding on this list. WebApps has a Widget Embedding deliverable in its charter and currently, work on this item has not started. Earlier today I created a document for this subject and it includes links to

Seeking status of Server-sent Events, Web Storage and Web Workers

2010-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
for Workers/Storage/Event-source that HTML5 Editor workload is the block and ask for volunteers (Web Applications Working Group) http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/597 On: Arthur Barstow Due: 2010-11-08 If you do not want to be notified on new action items for this group, please update

Last Call of WOFF File Format 1.0; comment deadline December 14

2010-11-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
Earlier this week, the Web Fonts WG published a LCWD of WOFF File Format 1.0 and Chris Lilley suggested WebApps review this spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-WOFF-20101116/ This LC has a normative reference to CORS and and a normative requirement for the spec's UAs re CORS: [[

Re: Request for Last Call review of RDFa Core 1.1; deadline

2010-11-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Manu, Thanks for the heads-up on the RDFa API plan. WebApps does not have regularly scheduled calls so your RfC was a good way for you to ask WG members and the WebApps community at large for comments. If anyone has comments and/or questions regarding the following LC: RDFa Core 1.1:

[widgets] Draft agenda for 18 November 2010 voice conf

2010-11-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is the draft agenda for the 18 November 2010 Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion before the VC on all of the agenda topics via public-webapps is encouraged (as it can result in a shortened meeting). Please address Open/Raised Issues and Open Actions before the meeting:

CfC: Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events; deadline Nov 29

2010-11-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne has addressed all of the open Actions and Issue for Progress Events [AI]. As such, he proposes it be published as a Last Call Working Draft and this is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/ This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the

Re: Discussion of File API at TPAC in Lyon

2010-11-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Nov/11/2010 11:52 AM, ext Arun Ranganathan wrote: While I look forward to the minutes from the WebApps meeting, The minutes from File* discussion are: http://www.w3.org/2010/11/02-webapps-minutes.html#item16 http://www.w3.org/2010/11/02-webapps-minutes.html#item17 -AB

[widgets] No call November 11

2010-11-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
I have a non resolvable conflict on November 11 so there will be no widgets call that day. A higher priority item is completing the round-trip comment loop from the I18N WG's comment on the September 7 Widget Interface LCWD: http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-widgets-apis-20100907/

Re: CfC: to publish Web SQL Database as a Working Group Note; deadline November 13

2010-11-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Nov/6/2010 6:09 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Arthur Barstow wrote: [...] suggested the spec be published as a Working Group Note and this is Call for Consensus to do. I support this in principle. OK. I can't commit to providing the draft, though. A few months ago I

Widget packaging spec: make it clear in the Abstract or Intro that PC widgets != UI controls

2010-11-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
/2008/webapps/track/actions/593 On: Arthur Barstow Due: 2010-11-08 If you do not want to be notified on new action items for this group, please update your settings at: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/users/7672#settings

CfC: FPWD of Web Messaging; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
...@nokia.com ACTION-598: Start a CfC to publish a FPWD of Web Messaging (Web Applications Working Group) http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/598 On: Arthur Barstow Due: 2010-11-08

CfC: to publish Web SQL Database as a Working Group Note; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
/2008/webapps/track/actions/606 On: Arthur Barstow Due: 2010-11-08

[DataCache] Status and plans for Programmable HTTP Caching and Serving?

2010-11-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
Applications Working Group) http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/600 On: Arthur Barstow Due: 2010-11-08 If you do not want to be notified on new action items for this group, please update your settings at: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/users/7672#settings

Notes from WebApps' 1 November 2010 Gathering

2010-11-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
in the Abtract or Intro that PC widgets != UI controls [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-11-08]. ArtB ACTION: caceres notify PF WG when the PC Conformance Checker is published [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2010/11/01-webapps-minutes.html#action02] trackbot Created ACTION-594 - Notify PF

Agendas for WebApps' Nov 1-2 f2f meeting

2010-10-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, I now consider the agenda for WebApps' meeting on Tuesday November 2 as confirmed and the agenda items for that day have not changed for a few weeks: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2010#Tuesday.2C_November_2 On Monday November 1, the widgets group will meet with WAI's

Re: Replacing WebSQL with a Relational Data Model.

2010-10-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Keeane, Jeremy, All, Thanks for starting this thread Keean. I agree with Jeremy that a API on top of IndexedDB, WebSQLDB, etc. would be interesting (e.g. performance data). It's also not clear to me (ATM) that such an API should necessarily be put on WebApps' standards track. As always,

[widgets] Draft agenda for 21 October 2010 voice conf

2010-10-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is the draft agenda for the October 21 Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion before the VC on all of the agenda topics via public-webapps is encouraged (as it can result in a shortened or canceled meeting). Please address Open/Raised Issues and Open Actions before the

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