Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Trouble building tkinter for Aqua

2023-12-07 Thread Ned Deily
TCLTK_CFLAGS C compiler flags for TCLTK, overriding pkg-config TCLTK_LIBS linker flags for TCLTK, overriding pkg-config -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.pyt

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Universal build launches as Intel on M1

2022-03-28 Thread Ned Deily
, the macOS installer assumes your app can only run as an Intel binary. https://github.com/thonny/thonny/blob/a9d12ba961eac875dc4a77ac1fb226baf5c3acc9/packaging/mac/Distribution.plist#L9 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Hi. I am having difficulty installing NLTK on my Mac (12.02.01). Is there anyone who can help?

2022-03-07 Thread Ned Deily
Sep 16 2021, 08:50:36) > [Clang 10.0.0 ] :: Anaconda, Inc. on darwin > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> from nltk.book.import * > File ""

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Hi. I am having difficulty installing NLTK on my Mac (12.02.01). Is there anyone who can help?

2022-03-03 Thread Ned Deily
On Mar 3, 2022, at 16:15, Ned Deily wrote: > On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:51, Robert Wasserman via Pythonmac-SIG > wrote: >> >> I’ve been learning pylon on my Mac and and am trying to install NLTK so I >> can try the examples in the NLTK text. >> >> The inst

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Hi. I am having difficulty installing NLTK on my Mac (12.02.01). Is there anyone who can help?

2022-03-03 Thread Ned Deily
probably more quickly solved via one of the general help forums out there. See https://www.python.org/about/help/. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/list

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Need M1 Mac to Test

2022-01-12 Thread Ned Deily
and libraries as needed to produce a single arch set of files. Of course, that assumes that any third-party libraries needed for the build of Python have to also have been built with both archs. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Need M1 Mac to Test

2022-01-12 Thread Ned Deily
rother said you guys didn't have one yet. Thank you for the generous offer. We do already have access to various M1 Macs for Python testing including this one already in our buildbot fleet: https://buildbot.python.org/all/#/workers/44 Perhaps some other Python-related project could use access.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Apple Silicon, anyone?

2020-07-13 Thread Ned Deily
needed for Big Sur even on current Intel platforms. I expect to publish here and elsewhere in the very near future a plan for how we will roll out Big Sur and Apple Silicon support in upcoming Python releases. -- Ned Deily n...@pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.8 (latest release)problem

2020-05-30 Thread Ned Deily
ke this problem was caused by a change a couple of months ago for Issue39885: https://bugs.python.org/issue39885 which had the side effect of disabling the cut and copy context menu items. A fix for that regression was just merged yesterday so the problem sh

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Upgrade to pip 9.0.3 (due to TLS deprecation)

2018-04-06 Thread Ned Deily
.org installers: https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3293#issuecomment-378468534 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: https://

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-09-17 Thread Ned Deily
On 2016-09-13 19:33, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >> On Sep 13, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Andrew Jaffe > > wrote: >> >> Aha! >> >> $ ls -lt /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/ >> total 0 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 157 31 Jul 02:36 Extras.pth* >> -rw-r--r--

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Installing python 2.7.9rc1 caused my frozen apps problems

2014-12-01 Thread Ned Deily
In article cacgdh2hh5cvykbbca+xf3+vkg_hvzbg8mqe7qaiti3ukxwv...@mail.gmail.com, Paul Wiseman poal...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 December 2014 at 23:57, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: [duplicate reply as the first seems to have disappeared] In article

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.2 as default version

2014-11-26 Thread Ned Deily
or modify symlinks in the framework bin directories (in /Library/Frameworks) and/or in /usr/local/bin. Whatever you do, don't try to modify or uninstall the Apple supplied system Pythons in /usr/bin and /System/Library/Frameworks.. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Package for building DMG installers from pip requirements

2014-09-18 Thread Ned Deily
to be signed rather than every wheel installer app. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] What does it take to run a GUI app?

2014-08-22 Thread Ned Deily
is quite old and hasn't really been closely examined in a long time. There *might* be better ways to do it today. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python interactive segfaults on OS X 10.9 Mavericks

2013-10-28 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-13c89c.17244325102...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: SInce OS X 10.9 Mavericks is now out, people are running into a severe problem when using some Python interpreters interactively. The symptom is that the interpreter in interactive mode crashes after typing

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building extension modules with Xcode 5

2013-10-28 Thread Ned Deily
the install of the CLT and the new way to do it in 10.9 Mavericks is: xcode-select --install. -- Ned Deily n...@acm.org -- [] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python interactive segfaults on OS X 10.9 Mavericks

2013-10-28 Thread Ned Deily
/issue19426 Thanks very much, Michael, for noticing it! If you find any other problems, please open issues for them on the Python bug tracker if there isn't already an issue there. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building extension modules with Xcode 5

2013-10-25 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-81273c.19295024102...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: I'm really confused here. Using the current 2.7.5 64-bit installer (from May) on 10.8.5 with Xcode 5.0.1 works just fine for me. Perhaps you are seeing problems because you are trying to override Distutils

[Pythonmac-SIG] Python interactive segfaults on OS X 10.9 Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Ned Deily
, the transition to OS X 10.9 appears to be relatively problem-free so far. Please open issues on the Python bug tracker for any new problems you encounter (after doing a quick search to see if it has already been reported!). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building extension modules with Xcode 5

2013-10-24 Thread Ned Deily
) should continue to do the right thing and substitute clang if the compile it was built with is not present. In fact, Distutils explicitly blacklisted the llvm-gcc shipped with Xcode 4. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building extension modules with Xcode 5

2013-10-24 Thread Ned Deily
assumes you know what you are doing and honors the values you supply. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building redistributable binaries with Xcode 4.4+

2013-10-24 Thread Ned Deily
. It's not elegant. But it should work. I would like to add something to make that easier. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: https

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] avoiding system's easy-install.pth with custom distribution

2013-09-11 Thread Ned Deily
://bugs.python.org/issue15048 http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/2.7/Lib/site.py#l305 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org

[Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.0 alpha 2 available

2013-09-09 Thread Ned Deily
to the Python bug tracker. Thanks! http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.4.0/ http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ http://bugs.python.org -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org

[Pythonmac-SIG] OS X IDLE and Tkinter users: new releases of Tcl/Tk Python

2013-05-18 Thread Ned Deily
http://bugs.python.org -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Environment variable issues running py2app application

2013-04-24 Thread Ned Deily
` within an app bundle. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Query Regarding IDE for python for GUI Apps

2013-02-20 Thread Ned Deily
the development alpha builds, TM2 is also available through MacPorts. https://github.com/textmate/textmate/downloads -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bdist_mpkg question: python 3 support?

2012-12-17 Thread Ned Deily
given setuptools/Distribute a bad rep. pip makes some important simplifying assumptions; not supporting binary eggs is one of them. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting control over the Apple menu

2012-11-01 Thread Ned Deily
in the Python framework so that OS X treats the execution as from a full-blown app and certain gui features work. That Python.app bundle has the name Python in the plist. py2app, of course, creates a custom app bundle including an Info.plist with the app name you specify. -- Ned Deily, n

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting control over the Apple menu

2012-10-31 Thread Ned Deily
with tkinter menus other than possibly the application name. The code should work equally well in the interpreter or with a py2app-bundled app. Are you sure you are invoking the right interpreter if you are depending on the shebang line? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a 32 bit framework build in a 64 bit system

2012-10-16 Thread Ned Deily
, make, ld, and system include files into their conventional places within /usr. Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE Crashes when Prefs are accessed on Python 3.3 on OSX 10.8.2

2012-10-10 Thread Ned Deily
. As a result I am not sure what to do here. Look at the dump file I attached to the Tk issue. It has a complete debug trace through Tk including C line numbers. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=112997aid=3575664group _id=12997 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE Crashes when Prefs are accessed on Python 3.3 on OSX 10.8.2

2012-10-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article 50737897.9030...@codebykevin.com, Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote: On 10/8/12 5:34 PM, Ned Deily wrote: As far as I can tell, the problem is not fixed in the source tree. The problem is trivial to reproduce with Python and IDLE. Try it with your own build of Tk 8.5

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE Crashes when Prefs are accessed on Python 3.3 on OSX 10.8.2

2012-10-08 Thread Ned Deily
ActiveState has not yet been made. When they release a new version the crash should go away. It has not been fixed yet. The workaround at the moment is to revert to an older version of ActiveState, 8.5.11.1, as described here: http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE Crashes when Prefs are accessed on Python 3.3 on OSX 10.8.2

2012-10-08 Thread Ned Deily
In article 50734448.30...@codebykevin.com, Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote: On 10/8/12 4:22 PM, Ned Deily wrote: It has not been fixed yet. Is this statement based on a fresh checkout of the core-8-5-branch from http://core.tcl.tk/tk? Because my build of 8.5 dates from about

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app error

2012-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
to build extension modules on newer releases. Some of that support will be backported for upcoming 2.7.x and 3.2.x releases. BTW, for Python 3.3, the 32-bit-only installer Python supports 10.5+ systems (i386 and ppc). More details on all of this forthcoming. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyQT on Lion?

2012-07-20 Thread Ned Deily
There must be a common subset of architectures and the interpreter has to running in one of those common archs. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyQT on Lion?

2012-07-20 Thread Ned Deily
to the package manager's quirks but it will almost certainly pay off in the long run. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building Python 2.7 with ppc64

2012-05-06 Thread Ned Deily
if the deployment target is less than 10.5. Once you have built a Python, I would highly recommend that you run the full Python test suite, perhaps: python2.7 -m test.regrtest -w -uall,-largefile Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python completion in emacs fails on OSX

2012-04-17 Thread Ned Deily
readline. http://pypi.python.org/pypi/readline -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building numpy/scipy for python3 on MacOS Lion

2012-03-24 Thread Ned Deily
The deprecation warning isn't necessarily a problem but the compile error is. Sorry, I have no experience with scipy so I would only be guessing what the problem here is. Suggest you ask on the Scipy-User mailing list (http://www.scipy.org/Mailing_Lists). Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building numpy/scipy for python3 on MacOS Lion

2012-03-23 Thread Ned Deily
LDSHARED='clang -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup \ -arch i386 -arch x86_64 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk -g' But in the Distutils output I see: -arch i386 x86_64 -- Ned Deily n...@acm.org -- [] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyCon..

2012-03-10 Thread Ned Deily
In article 20120311020302.ga31...@illinois.edu, Nicholas Riley njri...@illinois.edu wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 04:56:26PM -0800, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 10 Mar, 2012, at 15:05, Chris Barker wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: I'm planning to sprint

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] (re)newbie py2app question

2012-03-05 Thread Ned Deily
could also try printing the value of sys.path when you are running in the debugger and when not. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

[Pythonmac-SIG] Fix for international characters in Tcl/Tk 8.5

2012-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
system Pythons nor by 32-bit-only python.org Pythons. More details here: http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] (re)newbie py2app question

2012-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
dig deeper into the errors and make your program work in 64-bit mode as well. Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h

2012-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
In article rowen-d2392e.14473313022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: In article nad-ffa1b0.21415009022...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article rowen-acaa42.11370509022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: I suggest you try

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyCon..

2012-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
/sprints/projects/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h

2012-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
PluginManager.framework). I'll fix it and try building matplotlib again. Thank you very much! Glad it helped. I've opened Issue14018 to add a check to the OS X installer build script to make sure that tkinter is linked as expected with the A/S frameworks. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h

2012-02-09 Thread Ned Deily
on 10.6 for any Tkinter applications due to the broken state of the Apple-supplied in Tcl/Tk 8.5.x in 10.6 (the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5.x is better in 10.7 but still behind the A/S version wrt critical fixes.) http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h

2012-02-09 Thread Ned Deily
. 2) how do I use 4.01. with distutils? For the any C++ modules, you may need to override the C++ compiler choice by using a CXX environment variable. What OS version are you trying this on, BTW? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New to list with issues

2011-12-30 Thread Ned Deily
an issue for this at bugs.python.org. Please include the original crash report traceback. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Which version of python on OSX Lion 10.7.2

2011-12-11 Thread Ned Deily
and, if you need to use easy_install, /usr/bin/easy_install-2.7 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 2.7 (Lion) and user site-packages folder problem

2011-10-05 Thread Ned Deily
http://bugs.python.org/issue7175 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] installation trouble

2011-08-27 Thread Ned Deily
need to reinstall Distribute for it. And just change the 3.1 to 3.2 in the export command above. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] translate applescript to appscript

2011-08-12 Thread Ned Deily
for a number of years but it was just fairly recently that I ran across that reference form somewhere. Perhaps we can persuade HAS to add an example to the appscript documentation. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] translate applescript to appscript

2011-08-11 Thread Ned Deily
(such as the /tmp folder) that are not visible to the Finder and so fail. Try this reference form: app(Finder).items[mactypes.Alias(/path/to/file)] -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Ownership of installed Python on Mac

2011-08-09 Thread Ned Deily
. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Ownership of installed Python on Mac

2011-08-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-758d69.12421609082...@dough.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article CAKCKLWxR4Ubyh4sQJoyuan7=jfdzx62trafvhenc6udpuec...@mail.gmail.com, Michael Foord fuzzy...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed Python on OS X Lion on two computers - one with Lion preinstalled

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Ownership of installed Python on Mac

2011-08-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article CAKCKLWwbY2DAywF=f_k=h9ovkhjjq+prkng60q9d5xte+vg...@mail.gmail.com, Michael Foord fuzzy...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 August 2011 20:42, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article CAKCKLWxR4Ubyh4sQJoyuan7=jfdzx62trafvhenc6udpuec...@mail.gmail.com, Michael Foord fuzzy...@gmail.com

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Ownership of installed Python on Mac

2011-08-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-12dcdd.14311109082...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article CAKCKLWwbY2DAywF=f_k=h9ovkhjjq+prkng60q9d5xte+vg...@mail.gmail.com, Michael Foord fuzzy...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe that is actually the case in Lion due to the changes pointed out

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Ownership of installed Python on Mac

2011-08-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-8cf749.14423009082...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article nad-12dcdd.14311109082...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article CAKCKLWwbY2DAywF=f_k=h9ovkhjjq+prkng60q9d5xte+vg...@mail.gmail.com, Michael Foord fuzzy...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Lion

2011-07-22 Thread Ned Deily
In article rowen-b7bd6d.12105422072...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: In article bd2a3e7e-aaad-42b9-a310-0b981498f...@mac.com, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 22 Jul, 2011, at 6:10, Aahz wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011, Ned Deily wrote

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app application fails with ImportError: No module named sysconfig

2011-07-22 Thread Ned Deily
in the latest Python 2.7 with how and when the real distutils.sysconfig is called. No doubt the change that moves the from numpy.distutils.misc_util import solves an import ambiguity somewhere so that the normal distutils.sysconfig is found and imported earlier. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-adc32d.17270820072...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: The 64-bit/32-bin python.org installers (current releases are 3.2.1 and 2.7.2) *should* work on 10.7 Lion. I'm not so sure about the traditional 32-bit-only ones (the 10.3+ ones). As with 10.6, I expect you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Ned Deily
preliminary results posted by tomorrow. http://www.python.org/download/ http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app application fails with ImportError: No module named sysconfig

2011-07-20 Thread Ned Deily
using binary installer I also noticed that the module with the failing import (distutils/ccompiler.py) is identical in numpy 1.5.1 and 1.6.1fc3. What version of Python 2.7 are you using? And, if you built it yourself, what ./config options did you use? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python virtual environments on OS X

2011-07-18 Thread Ned Deily
and test using a non-default framework location and the virtual env set up by ./python -m virtualize test_dir worked just fine, just as the original virtualenv does with framework builds. So while we may find some nits down the road, I think the general approach is fine. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app zlib import error

2011-06-23 Thread Ned Deily
. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app zlib import error

2011-06-22 Thread Ned Deily
-l ./Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/zlib.so file ./Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/zlib.so otool -L ./Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/zlib.so and stating exactly which py2app options you are using to build the app. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] OSX 10.5 and 64-bit Python

2011-05-05 Thread Ned Deily
. The current top of trunk for 2.7.x is here (and these files are more up-to-date than the 2.7.1 released versions): http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/76a2354aa427/Mac/BuildScript You'd have to tweak the script a bit to get *just* 64-bit Intel, if you need that. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] improving interactivity in scripts

2011-05-04 Thread Ned Deily
for input? I've found the Vanilla library easy to work with to build simple dialogs, but more complex stuff as well. http://code.typesupply.com/wiki/Vanilla There's also the venerable CocoaDialog: http://cocoadialog.sourceforge.net/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Extension module compile fail, due to isysroot param pointing to sdk without certain headers. Any tips?

2011-05-02 Thread Ned Deily
previous reply. Then you shouldn't need to modify setup.py so you can easy_install or pip. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Extension module compile fail, due to isysroot param pointing to sdk without certain headers. Any tips?

2011-05-01 Thread Ned Deily
/ccompiler.py http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/5395f96588d4/Lib/distutils/unixccompile r.py -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Ned Deily
in .bash_profile.pysave PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin:${PATH} export PATH Hope that helps! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Ned Deily
the framework bin directory is where Distutils-installed script files get installed. Another potential change for 3.3. That said, they're minor annoyances and I've not come forward to fix any of them. And the resulting python works nicely. I guess that's the most important part :) -- Ned Deily

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can't import pyserial- after installing with easy_install on OSX 10.6.6

2011-03-21 Thread Ned Deily
on this machine to try anything further, though. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Framework Python and X11

2011-03-10 Thread Ned Deily
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and .so files

2011-03-06 Thread Ned Deily
OS X installer still available from python.org here: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.5.4/ ), but the normal place for it to be looking for site-packages is: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-pack ages -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and .so files

2011-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
of easy_install for it (either setuptools or Distribute) and then re-install any other 3rd-part packages that you need, like py2app and PyQt. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app with wxpython

2011-02-21 Thread Ned Deily
to ensure the 2.5 bin directory comes first (note, that Apple ships its own version of Python 2.5, linked in /usr/bin, in both OS X 10.5 and 10.6). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] The time module

2011-02-21 Thread Ned Deily
of Python 3. It is known to be buggy and is no longer supported. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app with wxpython

2011-02-20 Thread Ned Deily
. That sounds very suspicious. On OS X installs, bin/python and bin/pythonw are supposed to be identical. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [ann] py-appscript 1.0.0 final release

2011-02-06 Thread Ned Deily
! +1.0.0 ! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE not working

2011-01-30 Thread Ned Deily
: http://bugs.python.org/issue10974 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to get a Mac OS X version of Tcl/Tk rather than X11 version.

2011-01-27 Thread Ned Deily
://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.6/ It uses Aqua Tk 8.4 and is 32-bit only. Note that 2.7.1 and 3.1.3 (soon to be 3.2) are the current versions of Python. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

2011-01-16 Thread Ned Deily
is broken on OS X 10.6 but there is hope that it will get unbroken now that ActiveState has started packaging a reliable version of the patched Cocoa-based Tk 8.5 which works in both 32- and 64-bit modes. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

2011-01-16 Thread Ned Deily
you first dive in. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Escaping commandline strings

2011-01-04 Thread Ned Deily
/subprocess.html -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] python3.2 osx build

2011-01-03 Thread Ned Deily
...? Yes, unfortunately, 3.2b2 has not appeared yet. FWIW, the beta 1 installer is still available here: http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.2/python-3.2b1-macosx10.3.dmg anyone know? or know if there will even be an rc1 build for osx released? I'm sure there will be an rc1 installer. -- Ned

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Accessing the iTunes database directly?

2010-12-14 Thread Ned Deily
preferences or possibly by temporarily changing the music files' permissions. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] utf-8 using python 2.6.1 (os x 10.6.4)

2010-12-13 Thread Ned Deily
and then the python.org 64-bit python 2.7.1 which is currently linked with editline. If the problem is duplicated there, please open an issue on the python bug tracker (bugs.python.org). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?

2010-12-02 Thread Ned Deily
, 10.3.9 - 10.6, Tcl/Tk 8.4, etc). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to add appscript module to a pyobjc project?

2010-11-18 Thread Ned Deily
cpath.pyc RuntimeError: Bad magic number in .pyc file If you do need to support 10.5, try installing appscript with python2.5, too. $ /usr/bin/easy_install-2.5 appscript -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Select application version

2010-11-08 Thread Ned Deily
any luck (Local applicatoin Disk:Applications:... not found) Use a POSIX path to the application: app(/Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft Word.app) http://appscript.sourceforge.net/py-appscript/doc/appscript-manual/07_app licationobjects.html -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] os.getcwd() returns lower case current working directory

2010-11-03 Thread Ned Deily
-calling-pythons-os-getcwd -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] MySQLdb on OS X 10.6

2010-10-30 Thread Ned Deily
of the DATABASE_ variables. First, make sure your MySQL server is up and running and that you can connect to it using one of the standard MySQL command line programs like mysqladmin5 using a valid MySQL user name and password. Then edit settings.py appropriately. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] MySQLdb on OS X 10.6

2010-10-26 Thread Ned Deily
/local/bin:$PATH You'll find more suggestions and details by searching on StackOverflow. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pyobjc with appscript

2010-10-25 Thread Ned Deily
://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/greg.ewing/python_gui/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

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