I got my absentee ballot form today.
Bobbie
"You must fail in order to succeed"
I got up early this morning wondering who won the election--I heard LIL
WAYNE won is it true? lol
In the wake of what has been a monumental election process; may the man that
will bring America back, win!
In memory of: Tim Russert; Tim was born in Buffalo, New York to Irish American
Catholic parents Elizabeth (Betty), a homemaker, and Timothy Joseph "Big Russ"
Russert, a sanitation worker
Subject: Election Support
There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will
decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be the
president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. To
show our solidari
---Original Message---
From: Stuntman
Date: Sunday, November 07, 2004 20:43:12
To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
If you're going for a real flat tax with only charitable contribution deductions, it would work if the
Last time I was saying, "Let the system work." This time I'm saying,
"Let the system work." The electoral college still has to vote whether
Kerry conceded or not. "Let the system work" doesn't sound like whining
to me...!
What should I whine about? How about NOT
letting the system work. Like
Stacy
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy
yourself"
- Original Message -
From: Stuntman
To: QuadPirate ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:43
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] elect
by was 3 million and some change so Bush could've won the popular
> vote by almost 3 million and still lost the election there's
> something wrong about that.So this election really would've been a
> mess if that would've happened. Mark
> ---Original
gt; any ways.
>
> Mark
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Jim Lubin
> Date: Sunday, November 07, 2004 14:34:39
> To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
>
> Something we agree on, a flat tax. I say
Just for the heck of it, a good read which might open an eye or two:
http://www.brookesnews.com/040811bushwin.html
>
> It came down to Ohio's 20 Electoral votes deciding because they had
already
> called Arizona's 10 votes (where Bush got 55%, Kerry got 44%) and
> Arkansas's 6 votes (Bush 54%,
If all the polls closed at the same time then the media
couldn't call the East coast states while the West cost is still voting.
All votes would be counted at the same time so no single state would look
like it determined the outcome.
We heard it would come down to OH or FL based on polling info
Edwards decision.Now wouldn't have that been interesting? Mark
---Original Message---
From: Jim
Lubin
Date: Sunday, November 07,
2004 15:24:19
To: QuadPirate;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
It came down to Ohio's 20 Electoral votes deci
7;ve had a Bush
and Edwards decision.
Now wouldn't have that been interesting?
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Jim Lubin
Date: Sunday, November 07, 2004 15:24:19
To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
It came down to Ohio&
Wouldn't "look like" ... even if it did. That's
another problem of its own. We heard for weeks it would come down
to Florida or Ohio. So what we really would find out is:
"Was it OH or
FL" or whichever states it is that year.
Maybe it always was that way we just hear it quicker
ubject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Something we agree on, a flat tax. I say around a 35% flat tax for everyone and exempt the first $100,000. That sound fair to me. Only deductions are for charitable contributions to encourage giving. There can even be an option to pay more to the government.
y, November 07, 2004 14:25:30
To: QuadPirate
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Mark,
I agree... Bush did not win by 3 million votes in the US, he won by
130,000 votes (less than my city population) in Ohio.
I'm tired of my vote not counting... It re
I hear you Tod, I live in Ark and I felt the same way.
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Tod E. Santee
Date: Sunday, November 07, 2004 14:25:30
To: QuadPirate
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Mark,
I agree... Bush did not win by 3
change so
Bush could've won the popular vote by almost 3 million and still lost the
election there's something wrong about that.So this election really would've
been a mess if that would've happened. Mark
---Original Message---
From: Tod
E. Santee
Date: Saturday, November
Something we agree on, a flat tax. I say around a 35% flat
tax for everyone and exempt the first $100,000. That sound fair to me.
Only deductions are for charitable contributions to encourage giving.
There can even be an option to pay more to the government. During the
campaigning I saw several H
the popular vote by almost 3 million and still lost the election there's something wrong about that.
So this election really would've been a mess if that would've happened.
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Tod E. Santee
Date: Saturday, November 06, 2004 18:56:06
To: Jim
2004 7:56
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Jim,
First, this "church crap" should stay out of ANY official campaign material
and debates... And I'm an Evang. Christian!
Evangelical Christians alone? I doubt
it. How about the military and the people making more than $200,0
Jim,
First, this "church crap" should stay out of ANY official campaign material
and debates... And I'm an Evang. Christian!
Evangelical Christians alone? I doubt
it. How about the military and the people making more than $200,000/yr
that Kerry promised to tax more to pay for, among other things,
essage -
From: Jim Lubin
To: Tod E. Santee
Cc: Quad List
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:43
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Tod,So election 2004, 51% voted for the
person who won, 49% voted against.In 1992, 43.3% voted for the person who
won, 56.7% voted against.Going
Tod,
So election 2004, 51% voted for the person who won, 49% voted
against.
In 1992, 43.3% voted for the person who won, 56.7% voted
against.
Going by what you suggest the ballot could have said "Bush or Not
Bush". So no one actually voted for Kerry, 56 million
people voted only because they didn
At 09:42 PM 11/5/2004, Stacy Harim wrote:
I'm sorry. I guess ABC had
their facts wrong then because they mentioned in a few times that Gore
won the popular vote.
Gore did win the overall popular vote in 2000
George W. Bush - 50,456,002
Albert A. Gore - 50,999,897
Ralph Nader - 2,882,955
Bush
Jim,
I might suggest that the 19.0% for Perot was a vote against both Clinton
and G.H.W.Bush -- Not just Clinton. That might be considered a time
there was a "valid" 3rd Party Candidate. The Perot voters were definitely
voting against BOTH parties. There's no way you can honestly be convinced
From: "dave headman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [QUAD-L] election
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:38:22 -0500
4 more years of the same bullshit. the revernd g w bush will start by
appointing the most right wing religious nut job to replace that old fart
that&#
: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [QUAD-L] election
So because you appear to disagree with the outcome
of the election America is not a democracy? Since the votes are still
being counted, as of 11/4/2004 12:14 AMhttp://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004
Gore won the
overall popular vote for the nation but received more electoral
votes.
THouston
- Original Message -
From:
Stacy Harim
To: Quad List ; Tod E.
Santee ; Jim
Lubin
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:42
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
I&#
cy Harim ; Quad
List ; Tod E. Santee
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 12:31
AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Stacy, The Supreme Court put an end to the
recounts trying to find votes for Gore when Democrats were wanting to re-write
the rules of what constituted a valid vote. Bush won
Highest turn out since 1968.
http://www.idea.int/voter_turnout/northamerica/usa.html
this election was 59%, might end up higher
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/turnout.htm
At 09:23 PM 11/5/2004, Stacy Harim wrote:
Wasn't this the biggest turn out
in history for voting? I'm pretty
Stacy, The Supreme Court put an end to the recounts trying
to find votes for Gore when Democrats were wanting to re-write the rules
of what constituted a valid vote. Bush won Florida by 537 votes, giving
him enough electoral votes to win.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/m
aturday, November 06, 2004 12:10
AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Oh Tod, with a few minutes of research, I am happy
to report that dubious honor goes to Bill Clinton in 1992.1992
William J. Clinton - 44,909,889George
H. Bush - 39,104,545H. Ross Perot - 19,742,267V
Oh Tod, with a few minutes of research, I am happy to report
that dubious honor goes to Bill Clinton in 1992.
1992
William J. Clinton - 44,909,889
George H. Bush - 39,104,545
H. Ross Perot - 19,742,267
Votes against Clinton 58,846,812
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781450.html
2004 (Updated
hate them. Then you destroy
yourself"
- Original Message -
From: Tod E.
Santee
To: Quad List
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:49
PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] election
On the flip side, given the turnout, Bush had more people vote
against him than any other candidate
On the flip side, given the turnout, Bush had more people vote against
him than any other candidate in the history of the US. <--
It's all in how you look at it.
And, given that huge turnout resulted in a 51-49% divide, one would
be hard pressed to find anyone who could honestly call that a "Man
>- Original Message -
> >From:
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Jim
Lubin
> >To:
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>William
Willis ;
>
><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>hey-guys
> >Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:16 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] election
>
Actually in one of his last speeches before the election, the President
said he would support Civil Unions.
Adding equal protection to Civil Unions can be done by Legistlature,
all it requires is a Bill.
However defining marriage federaly would require an Amendment.
Stuntman
>
> George Bush pro
> >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>William Willis ;
> ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>hey-guys
> >Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:16 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] election
> >
> >Try democracy. The people voiced their opinion by voting. The
minority
al Message---
From: Boyd Jenkins
Date: Thursday, November 04, 2004 22:46:49
To: QuadPirate; Lori Michaelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Sure have! Thats what were exercising when we happily invite someone who hates this country, to the first boat outOn 11/4/
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Sure have! That’s what we’re exercising when we happily
invite someone who “hates this country,” to the first boat out
On 11/4/04 1:39 PM, "QuadPirate"
--
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<Snip> Have
Hi Tony,
I STILL wouldn't want to leave AMERICA. I would work within the system to change the laws and make it legal again. That is the American way!
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/4/2004 2:39:54 PM Eastern S
he results. Democracy indeed.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Lubin
To: William Willis ;
hey-guys
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] election
Try democracy. The people voiced their opinion by voting. The minority
live with the results.
I live in a "blue"
Democracy indeed. The "majority" ruled in Germany in 1940. They expressed
their opinions and the minority lived with the results. Democracy indeed.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Lubin
To: William Willis ; hey-guys
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: F
George Bush proposed the Federal Marriage Amendment. If it
had passed in congress then it would have needed to passed by 3/4 of the
states to be enacted. It failed in the senate and died.
This past election, 11 states did what John Kerry supported and voted to
decide what constitutes the legal d
ore people share my
views and values.
At 01:33 PM 11/4/2004, William Willis wrote:
There is a phrase for it:
Tyranny of the majority.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Lubin
To: QuadPirate ;
Lori Michaelson ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L
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Michaelson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:45
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
At 11:39 AM 11/4/2004, QuadPirate wrote:
I think River is very upset
because the country just slapped her in the face because of her
lifestyle.I'm not saying it's
t in the way of politics.
Stacy
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy
yourself"
- Original Message -
From: QuadPirate
To: Lori Michaelson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:39
PM
Subje
Let's hope that doesn't happen. If Houston should ever read that... and
believe it, he'd have to leave our country. Whereyat Houston??
W
In a message dated 11/4/04 4:51:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I've thought about this...what if the make ORAL SEX illegal??? It has
been
in many sta
In a message dated 11/4/2004 2:39:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Have you guys ever heard of Freedom of speech?
If you don't like our countries write of Freedom of speech maybe you should go elsewhere because there's nothing more American than speeking your mind without pe
There is a phrase for it: Tyranny of the majority.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Lubin
To: QuadPirate ; Lori
Michaelson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
At 11:39 AM 11/4/2004, QuadPirate wrote:
I think River is very
Come on you guys,
We so need to get over all this election crap
before someone really gets their feelings hurt. This is America the
greatest nation in the world we need to pull together now more than ever, this
is going to lead to a civil war and thats exactly what the terrorist
won't. Ca
At 11:39 AM 11/4/2004, QuadPirate wrote:
I think River is very upset
because the country just slapped her in the face because of her
lifestyle.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong it's just different.
If the country said the disabled were limited to only marry another
disabled person you guys migh
damn near run into walls fearing to actually come in contact with me.
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Lori Michaelson
Date: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:34:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
At Wednesday 11/3/2004 09:00 PM, you wrote:
If you hate this count
At Wednesday 11/3/2004 09:00 PM, you wrote:
If you hate this country so
much, why
dont you haul your sorry ass out of it?
Precisely! We take too much for granted! Don't like our
ways? Go elsewhere!
Lori
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] election
If you hate this country so much, why
don’t you haul your sorry ass out of it?
Boyd
-
On 11/3/04 1:17 PM, "River Wolfe"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hate this country right now. Regardless of wha
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Are these sarcastic comments possibly bringing out the true colors of you
guys? I have not made one remark about or to anyone personally for their
feelings about this election. Great that I am upset and wheels mark about
I am special because I made a comment
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Bon’ Voyage!
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On 11/3/04 3:38 PM, "dave headman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<Snip> i wish i could move to australia, they seem sane down there.
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Great!
-
On 11/3/04 1:55 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
< Snip> I am pretty upset about it myself
Keep your eyes on Alan Keyes, a carpetbagger who came to Illinois this late
summer to run against Obama, a winner. Even the local Republican Party in
Illinois went into hiding when Alan Keyes showed up. Keyes, was the sacrificial
lamb, yet won 20% of the Illinois vote. Now that he has paid hi
ay, November 03, 2004 5:43
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
ah, we are talking about different things. I'm
talking about Congress you are talking about the state
legislatures.JimAt 02:28 PM 11/3/2004, you wrote:
You are looking at the seats and
not the states. http://abc
unless you hate them. Then you destroy
yourself"
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:26
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
These words , sounds like
Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:57
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] election
Bush won the election by the largest number of
votes in the history of the country. The Republicans gained a larger majority
in both the House (234) and the Senate (55).At 11:55 AM 11/3/2004,
Stacy Harim wrote:
You
Thanks Marikay, I needed to hear that ;-) Feeling better right now, Kerry gave a wonderful concession speech, I resisted listening at first. Too hard. I'm glad I listened, because it reminded me why I think he's such a good and honorable man. I actually grew up in TX and was born in GA, into a
4 more years of the same bullshit. the revernd g w bush will start by
appointing the most right wing religious nut job to replace that old fart
that's about to die on the supreme court. rolling back the clock 200yrs.
if anybody thinks he will reach out to those who didn't vote for him,
or don't bel
3/2004 1:55:53 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: River Wolfe
To: quad
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] election
> I hate this country right now. Regardless of what some of the JERKS on > this list may want to believe, the election was aga
Bush won the election by the largest number of votes in the
history of the country. The Republicans gained a larger majority in both
the House (234) and the Senate (55).
At 11:55 AM 11/3/2004, Stacy Harim wrote:
You are right. The people
that voted for Bush, especially in Ohio, voted on moral gr
pray that good ol' Jed doesn't run next. It
would be more like an Empire than a democracy at that point.
Stacy
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy
yourself"
- Original Message -
From: River Wolfe
To: quad
Sent: Wed
I hate this country right now. Regardless of what some of the JERKS on
this list may want to believe, the election was again stolen by the
BUSH EMPIRE. Today, I went for a CAT SCAN and it was all I could do
to even talk to the people there. This is election is a PERSONAL
indictment against
OK Silas,
I'm done anyways heck I've already voted but you don't have to read them just delete them.
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Silas Shelburne
Date: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:49:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [QUAD-L] Election!
Hello everybody,
In a message dated 10/28/04 11:50:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. Silas
>>
LOL, just take a rest my friend knowing that in 2 years you will have state
elections and then in 4 years, we will do this all over again. Hope that you
continue to st
Hello everybody,
Am I the only one thats sick of all this political
shit, its all you hear on tv and the computer. All this bitching back and
forth ain't going to sway anybody one way or another, hell you already know who
your going to vote for. (Just my opinion ) Thanks for letting me ge
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