Mushroom_3 wrote:
Andre's post above is very interesting; and for further MBA study
yesterday I was browsing a large John Lewis store in UK (large upmarket
chain with good electrical stock) and found a lonely Squeezebox radio
accessory pack for £4.95. (Now in my possession as a spare battery
Just bought some SBs. They are so neat... Then I read about a lot of
uncertainty about the future of SBs.
This annoucement by Logitech made me feel much better though:
Important for you to know, the Logitech UE Smart Radio can play
alongside your Logitech Squeezebox products, but will operate and
Not sure how they can call it an upgrade.
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Yes, the two different platforms, SqueezeBox and UE, can play along
side each other. As can your old AM/FM transistor radio play along
side both SB and UE.
Place all three different devices on a table and they are each playing
something, along side each other. What they won't do is be
Mushroom_3 wrote:
Not sure how they can call it an upgrade.
From obsolete to hope..
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From obsolete to hope..
Yeh , but they are not instantly obsoleted by logitech closing the shop
.
The are obsoleted when:
Something better shows up, but currently Logitech and all,others seems
to be playing dumb and dumber so not much can compete.
Enough new unsupported
AndreE wrote:
Interesting, very interesting case for the MBA strategy course :-)
Andre's post above is very interesting; and for further MBA study
yesterday I was browsing a large John Lewis store in UK (large upmarket
chain with good electrical stock) and found a lonely Squeezebox radio
Mushroom_3 wrote:
Andre's post above is very interesting; and for further MBA study
yesterday I was browsing a large John Lewis store in UK (large upmarket
chain with good electrical stock) and found a lonely Squeezebox radio
accessory pack for £4.95. (Now in my possession as a spare battery
Working for big software company and being engaged into portfolio
planning processes I might claim that I know what top management in such
companies expects.
Slimdevices was a niche company focusing on enthusiasts, as Xinthar and
many others also mentioned above, and Logitech is a box moving
I hadn't even considered that Logitech would receive a revenue share
from services like Spotify going through its servers.
It made sense to me that they would want power and control, but to what
end, I couldn't fathom. Of course it would be money. The puzzle
completes itself.
For some reason I
From the moment back in 2006 when Logitech acquired Slim Devices, it
seemed apparent that the Squeezebox line wouldn't fit into Logitech's
mass market business model to crank out huge volumes of cheap boxes.
Inevitably it was going to be forsaken.
Personally, I have no intention of abandoning my
I have owned a Boom for a while but only using it for internet radio via
MySB.com. Decided now that I'm going to run a NAS in the home and get a
touch. I just purchased a second hand Touch for 140 euros.
But it is dawning on me that I can better plan for the future. Touches
are on sale, they
On the topic of central server dependence.. I'm pretty outspoken on that
issue, even though I don't see all the ramifications yet.
My preference will *always* be a design that reduces dependency.
Dependency usually means vendor lock-in and a number of other things.
For instance I don't really
Squeezemenicely wrote:
Thanks Ben,
But from what you wrote, SBs actually made money, so why change it?
I'm wondering if anyone can shed more light on this. The short answer to
that question is of course that Squeezebox and Logitech were not living
in the same world. Squeezebox is an
Forgive my noob post please but Is eek advice. I bought a SB radio in
2009. ( I also have a SB receiver/controller.. never use the remote /
controller once apps showed up).
Anyway I woke up last night to my SB Radio making a ticking noise, just
like a metronome, and the SB radio will not power up
vibe2.0 wrote:
Forgive my noob post please but Is eek advice. I bought a SB radio in
2009. ( I also have a SB receiver/controller.. never use the remote /
controller once apps showed up).
Anyway I woke up last night to my SB Radio making a ticking noise, just
like a metronome, and the SB
vibe2.0 wrote:
Thank you for the reply. What does no local server access mean? Can you
not stream from a PC / MAC on the network to the unit?
You can stream music files via upnp but there's no equivalent to LMS
which let's you operate independently of Reciva - you can set up Presets
which
kamaran wrote:
Thanks any more comparisons or ad/disadvantages?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radiop=714295viewfull=1#post714295
Generally, IMHO, the biggest disadvantages with the new UE Smart Radio
platform is:
- No support for third party plugins or
Great help, thank you
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Radio
Hi all,
I have the option of picking up a bargain Logitech internet radio. Can
someone advise if I should go for one of these or pay (almost double)
for a rebranded UE internet radio?
I take it after the FW update, the Logitech branded device is
essentially the same as the UE (excluding
I take it after the FW update, the Logitech branded device is
essentially the same as the UE (excluding battery) - could someone
confirm?
Confirmed. For more information about the differences (pro/con is in the
eye of the beholder :-)) you can check my first mail in this thread, page
1.
kamaran wrote:
Hi all,
I have the option of picking up a bargain Logitech internet radio. Can
someone advise if I should go for one of these or pay (almost double)
for a rebranded UE internet radio?
I take it after the FW update, the Logitech branded device is
essentially the same as
I think I said in this thread earlier that I wasn't sure if I should buy
a new SB.
Well, I just ordered two new SB Radios today to add to the one I already
have :) I'm going with one with the left channel, one with the right and
the last one, with the battery pack, will be mono. Too bad you
Mnyb wrote:
I think there are nigthly beta builds for NAS boxes and Linux but no
official build .
Maybe they want to get rid of this whole support issue ?
Butbas pascal say why downgrade ?
If you actually got over the threshold to understand the squeezebox
system you are better
jelockwood wrote:
I do actually also use the streamed radio support as well as the local
library support and was interested in the claimed improved ease of use.
I have managed to setup and use both with my existing Squeezebox Radio
but do find switching between both Internet and local
jelockwood wrote:
I use iTunes as my main music manager, keep all my music in Apple
Lossless and was responsible for the solution which allows Windows Media
Player and hence Microsoft Media Center to also be able to use and play
Apple Lossless.
I bought a Squeezebox Radio because it could
jelockwood wrote:
I use iTunes as my main music manager, keep all my music in Apple
Lossless and was responsible for the solution which allows Windows Media
Player and hence Microsoft Media Center to also be able to use and play
Apple Lossless.
I bought a Squeezebox Radio because it could
The bad things is that they made the upgrade irreversible ? Why ?
Totally senseless .
You can't try run and see what you think ?
I suspect it is due that they are currently very similar and Logitech
don't want to many UE radios going SB radio :~
But still a senseless thing to do , if some
There is no downgrade path because other than with the Squeezebox, the
UE Radio can't pull the firmware from a local server and there never was
downgrade capability within the same server version for a Squeezebox
pippin's
pippin wrote:
There is no downgrade path because other than with the Squeezebox, the
UE Radio can't pull the firmware from a local server and there never was
downgrade capability within the same server version for a Squeezebox
So it's a catch if you install a version of LMS again it would
Yes, but that would probably require a redesign of the upgrade process
both on the server and the client side plus some versioning
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So it's a catch if you install a version of LMS again it would not
conect and fetch that fw ?
That's the easiest downgrade route with a SB radio today .
Can't pull from local server and no SD slot ,hmm bugger .
Is the restore to previus version functionality equally
DaveWr wrote:
It may be prudent from your perspective, it's just hassle and expense
for Logitech. They have declared the future, and it doesn't include all
the support problems that downgrades etc might cause.
Dave
Yes exactly , a bit callous imo , but you get rid some of the hassle and
I use iTunes as my main music manager, keep all my music in Apple
Lossless and was responsible for the solution which allows Windows Media
Player and hence Microsoft Media Center to also be able to use and play
Apple Lossless.
I bought a Squeezebox Radio because it could also natively play Apple
erland wrote:
For the foreseeable future you will be able to continue using it the
same way you do today, the only difference it that you can't purchase an
additional new Squeezebox Touch and it's unlikely to get support for any
new streaming services.
Hello, I have a Squeezebox Touch, for 1 year, I am very happy with.
Someone may be explained if I continue using it for internet radios
escchar?, Or just serve as a watch, I'm very puzzled by what Logitech is
doing.
Thanks,
mbalari wrote:
Hello, I have a Squeezebox Touch, for 1 year, I am very happy with.
Someone may be explained if I continue using it to listen to internet
radio?, Or just serve as a watch, I'm very puzzled by what Logitech is
doing.
Thanks,
For the foreseeable future you will be able to
erland wrote:
The issues only occurs when Logitech eventually decides to shutdown
mysqueezebox.com, but this is unlikely to happen anytime soon as they
will get in trouble if they shut it down while they still have devices
within warranty period. After mysqueezebox.com is shutdown, it
vining wrote:
i just installed the UE beta on a VortexBox and one of the 1st steps in
the web gui setup is to enter your MySqz.com account and pass so it
apparently needs it as well. From what i've seen using it so far there
isn't any noticable difference other than the name and an icon or
It's included, not built in. Same battery access as is in the SB
Radio you are already using.
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while we plan to offer an optional upgrade path for existing SB Radio
users, this will be limited to the Radio
...
Michael
Personnaly, I think it is a marketing error not providing an upgrade
path for oldier devices, at least for recent one like the Touch, since
it will
About the New UE Radio ,...I use my SB radio every night charge the
battery every day
If The battery is built in ,..how do I change it when it reaches its
cycle life ?
3rd party apps ,without these keeping the radio fresh with
different options its a big loss
I use some like
By all accounts the battery isn't built-in, it's seemingly just supplied
with it pre-installed, unlike the Squeezebox Radio.
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However, it doesn't really help if you only have Radios around. Even
syncing is not something that's a core feature for that little mono
unit
It is. Syncing is still there.
Now THAT would require Linux support, wouldn't it? Or was Linux just
forgotten in the list
mbg wrote:
Sure, but a bit less crazy because these are NiMH so would last longer
before needing replacement.
The specs for the UE radio don't list a battery under what's in the
box, and the CNET review says it's built-in
But the setup guide shows battery removal instructions, so I
craigm wrote:
Just found out today about this move to the UE platform. What sucks for
me about this is I wrote an article (published in the September 2012
issue of Linux Journal) which praised how forward thinking Logitech was
for keeping this platform open. On the front cover it states
Just saw the blue WiFi light come on my Squeezebox Duet.. Also checked
my Squeezebox Radio.. cannot connect to my squeezebox.com .. Tried to
type in the URL and the server is down!! I hope it's just for maint and
they aren't pulling the plug already..
If you would read the announcements on this forum you should know what
it is: scheduled maintenance and they warned about it days ago.
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dr1818 wrote:
In order to reach a webcaster, I need to use a webserver on my local
network to create a Squeezebox compatible playlist.
Will the UE firmware still allow the radio to reach the webserver on my
local network to get the playlist (port not forwarded to the Internet)?
Thanks
erland wrote:
One of the Logitech developers indicated that they would probably not
spend any time to ensure that SB Radio firmware would work with UE Smart
Radio hardware, if you want a SB Radio it's better to get SB Radio
hardware now while it still is available in some stores or on eBay
mbg wrote:
Thanks -- makes sense. I am still seeing some SB Radios in stores so was
just wondering whether it's worth grabbing one rather than wait for them
to be replaced with UEs... I guess the answer is yes :)
Having the battery on the UE would have been nice...
You can buy batteries
castalla wrote:
You can buy batteries for the SBR easily on amazon.
Thanks, I found one... any idea if the UE battery is integrated or
user-replaceable? From reading some reviews, I got the idea it was
integrated.
mbg's
Almost as crazy as Apple...
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As I posted in another thread
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95679-Radio-new-packaginghighlight=packaging),
Logitech launched recently an updated packaging for the Radio.
I bought one (only available in Red) a week before the UE announcement
as a present to a member of my family.
didjean wrote:
Back in July,
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95679-Radio-new-packaginghighlight=packaging),
I discovered that Logitech updated the Radio packaging.
I bought one (only available in Red) a week before the UE announcement
as a present to a member of my family. I
Just added the URL to favorites.
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Just found out today about this move to the UE platform. What sucks for
me about this is I wrote an article (published in the September 2012
issue of Linux Journal) which praised how forward thinking Logitech was
for keeping this platform open. On the front cover it states Stream
Your Music with
The thread is really long, so please forgive me if it's been asked
already... but does anyone know whether I can buy a UE Radio and use it
with the old Squeezebox LMS software, essentially as an SB Radio?
(downgrade?)
Or do I have to go and specifically look for an SB Radio to do that?
Thanks.
mbg wrote:
The thread is really long, so please forgive me if it's been asked
already... but does anyone know whether I can buy a UE Radio and use it
with the old Squeezebox LMS software, essentially as an SB Radio?
(downgrade?)
Or do I have to go and specifically look for an SB Radio to
didjean wrote:
UE Smart Radio has it's own software (UE Media Library - based on LMS
but with less options).
UE Smart Radio is not compatible with Squeezebox and LMS.
I guess what I was asking is... can you somehow install an old SB Radio
firmware on it, and then use it with LMS.
mbg wrote:
I guess what I was asking is... can you somehow install an old SB Radio
firmware on it, and then use it with LMS.
One of the Logitech developers indicated that they would probably not
spend any time to ensure that SB Radio firmware would work with UE Smart
Radio hardware, if you
In order to reach a webcaster, I need to use a webserver on my local
network to create a Squeezebox compatible playlist.
Will the UE firmware still allow the radio to reach the webserver on my
local network to get the playlist (port not forwarded to the Internet)?
Thanks
ButC wrote:
What about a free service like Deezer? That is the one I use the most.
no clue about Deezer. Most services, even free ones like Pandora,
require some handshake between LMS and the service (this is currently
done by mysb.com). But the good news is that it must be somewhat
garym wrote:
But the good news is that it must be somewhat possible, as triode's
spotify app would work without mysb.com and this is even a pay service.
That sounds good! I'll cling to that possibility, then...
Feels a little sad that I discovered Squeezebox this late, when they're
about to
http://youtu.be/CxVhh2KbkTM?a
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I don;t think anyone has asked what this means for the Alarm
functionality of the radio
has the UE radio resolved the issue of always getting the backup alarm?
As far as I was aware, the easiest way to avoid this was to setup a
local LMS server - hence minimising the risks of mysqueezebox
I hope for them they improved the reliability of their online platform
as the Smart Radio will have to be always connected to uesmartradio.com
even for local content...
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Someone send Logitech a memo - bade move - your lunch is gonna get get
eaten in the online radio biz:
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/183256/apple-radio-expansion-threatens-rivals.html?edition=51382
Osamede's
Osamede wrote:
Someone send Logitech a memo: bad move - your lunch is gonna get get
eaten in the online radio biz:
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/183256/apple-radio-expansion-threatens-rivals.html?edition=51382
Sometimes its better to focus on serving a niche that you can
Mnyb wrote:
semi large niche of part audiophiles ,music nerds ,computer hobbyist.
Who are you calling semi-large?!? I will have you know I am pretty
slim for someone who is part audiophile, part music nerd and part
computer hobbyist! :(
garym wrote:
Yes.
Thanks!... What is it then that one will loose, in terms of
functionality, when Logitech shuts down its servers, if one is running a
LMS server?
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ButC wrote:
Thanks!... What is it then that one will loose, in terms of
functionality, when Logitech shuts down its servers, if one is running a
LMS server?
Nothing for your own music. But Ability to access some of the paid
services (siriusxm, MOG, etc.) unless someone creates. 3rd party
garym wrote:
Nothing for your own music. But Ability to access some of the paid
services (siriusxm, MOG, etc.) unless someone creates. 3rd party plugin.
What about a free service like Deezer? That is the one I use the most.
Can't be arsed reading 45 pages but this is a bit of a disappointment,
no new colour Boom. Sounds like they fear the competition from Apple
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Who are you calling semi-large?!? I will have you know I am pretty
slim for someone who is part audiophile, part music nerd and part
computer hobbyist! :(
He , the niche is ( English is not my native language ;) )
Hi, I'm new to the forum and also new to the Squeezebox universe... I
bought my Squeezebox Radio and two days later found out that Logitech is
shutting the whole Squeezebox line down (more or less).
Two questions:
1. Will the sync between two old Squeezeboxes continue to work even
after
1. yes, if that works now it should work into the future, assuming you
are running a local LMS server and not relying on MySB.com online when
they do stop MySB.com
2. no, older players are not compatible with UE, only the newer SB
Radio is even upgradeable to UE
ButC wrote:
The local LMS server, is that the Logitech Media Server one is
installing on the pc for playing the music stored on it?
Yes.
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mherger wrote:
Could you please forward the full mail to michael at slimdevices dot
com?
Thanks!
--
Michael
Done
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E.g. I sent a mail to support and look at their answer:
You will not have to be conected to the internet to play music on your
local network as there will be a similar program to the Logitech media
server for the
UE smart radio.
Could you please forward the full mail to michael at slimdevices
erland wrote:
Or they are just trying to avoid/silence bad reviews/press related to
their new UE Smart Radio products, future will tell if these statements
also means that they understand and act based on the feedback.
But I agree that it's a positive sign that they read your blog, the
didjean wrote:
As I said previously, we should keep explaining them their mistakes...
We should contact them via their different channels. They need to know
we are unhappy!
E.g. I sent a mail to support and look at their answer:
You will not have to be conected to the internet to
reinholdk wrote:
This only shows that the support people don't know their products good
enough.
Exactly. They have to understand that they don't know what they are
talking about!
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I love my Squeezebox Radio and Touch, especially since I got iPeng for
my iPad ! I want to throw in another vote to make the Touch compatible
with the new software
mherger wrote:
If existing SB Radios get the same software update as the UERadio,
does
that mean they can no longer
Can someone move the iPhone connector chat to a different thread?
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FYI - Apple updated the adapter info stating it does support Analog
Audio.
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Sorry to bring the iPod dock talk here. It just seemed like another
stunningly stupid move by another company much like what's been going on
with Logitech. As others have mentioned, it's come out that there is a
DAC in the adapter, so that puts that all to rest.
To bring this back on topic, I
Well, after tweeting my blog post to @LogitechUE, I got two replies...
@SueChastain We read your article and thank you for your feedback. We
are listening
@SueChastain Thank you for your feedback on the Smart Radio, we listen
to our customers
So, FWIW, they are listening. Let's give them
MeSue wrote:
Well, after tweeting my blog post to @LogitechUE, I got two replies...
So, FWIW, they are listening. Let's give them an Ultimate Earful!
If they were really listening, then a senior manager with the company
would come out with a statement directed to SB customers recognizing
maggior wrote:
To bring this back on topic, I find that the Logitech situation doesn't
upset me as it once did because my setup is pretty much where I want it
already. With the flexibility the Andriod squeezebox player affords me,
I find that I have less places I really need a squeezebox.
MeSue wrote:
Well, after tweeting my blog post to @LogitechUE, I got two replies...
@SueChastain We read your article and thank you for your feedback. We
are listening
@SueChastain Thank you for your feedback on the Smart Radio, we listen
to our customers
So, FWIW, they are
Yes, time will tell. It may not have come across, but I'm still
skeptical. Probably not a bad idea to keep hitting them over the head,
though.
Just noticed my page is #2 in Google for Squeezebox dead.
(Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. Please pardon any typos!)
Apple has jumped on the bandwagon to annoy audio afficianoados with
their new Lighning connection which replaces the traditional iPod dock
connector. They've removed the analog line-out, so all existing speaker
dock systems will not work with the new iPods. Pure genius!
Cue up Rodney
Ikabob wrote:
I have heard that they have created adapters.
They did, but apparently the adapters don't carry the analog line-out
signal.
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Hi all,
I wrote a blog post attempting to summarize all the information from
this thread and other sources about the Squeezebox and Smart Radio. I
felt like needed a follow up to the love story I wrote about Squeezebox
less than a month ago. Anyway, some of you may find it useful to have
all the
maggior wrote:
Apple has jumped on the bandwagon to annoy audio afficianoados with
their new Lighning connection which replaces the traditional iPod dock
connector. They've removed the analog line-out, so all existing speaker
dock systems will not work with the new iPods. Pure genius!
maggior wrote:
They did, but apparently the adapters don't carry the analog line-out
signal because there is no such signal to be had on the new Lighning
connector to adapt.
I know this is off-topic, but the timing of this coming on the heels of
Logitech phasing out the Squeezebox was
You can as well read Apple's product description, they explicitly state
that audio is not supported by the adapter
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which means you are paying $30 instead of $20 for a cable. Just
does not make sense.
Makes perfect business sense - kerrrchin!
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You can as well read Apple's product description, they explicitly state
that audio is not supported by the adapter
Then what does this adapter do besides make you part with money? $29
for an adapter or $19 for the right cable. Any device that you would
dock the iphone with I
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