Thanks. The maxy fasty pair has been traded.
Rene
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> From: John McMurry
> To:
> Date: 12/23/2008 11:04:11 AM
> Subject: Re: WTT: maxy fasty with col de la vie
>
> Hi Rene,
>
> Have you found a trade yet?
>
> Cheers,
>
I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem, and I really really don't like the
looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't think
so.
The Atlantis comes with 15mm of spacers (I think) under the top nut. I
couild have shortened the steer tube up by that much and that might
have lowered
On Dec 23, 9:07 pm, John McMurry wrote:
> On Dec 23, 8:18 pm, Atlantean
> wrote:
>
> > I removed an Albatross bar from my Atlantis even though I liked it a
> > lot, simply because I could not get it low enough!
>
> A stem like this stem ought to help that situation:
>
> http://www.businesscycl
The threadless CT-80 below it is pretty...
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:07 PM, John McMurry wrote:
>
> On Dec 23, 8:18 pm, Atlantean
> wrote:
> > I removed an Albatross bar from my Atlantis even though I liked it a
> > lot, simply because I could not get it low enough!
>
> A stem like this stem ou
On Dec 23, 8:18 pm, Atlantean
wrote:
> I removed an Albatross bar from my Atlantis even though I liked it a
> lot, simply because I could not get it low enough!
A stem like this stem ought to help that situation:
http://www.businesscycles.com/tstem-nitto.htm
> Imagine that! It
> would have be
on 12/23/08 5:18 PM, Atlantean at softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote:
> So is this some kind of legislative process whereby we determine what
> kind of steer tube is right and proper for all, which then becomes the
> law of the land? Have I missed something? I thought I was joining a
> dis
That VO stem isn't half bad. As a rider that can never make up his
mind about bar setups the removable faceplate does offer a lot. But I
agree the selection of good looking threadless stems is fairly poor.
I've got a half tig, half lugged one from RBW like the one Jim linked
to. It gets a lot of
I just shipped a bike to a UPS customer center near the customer's
home. It was much cheaper than it usually is when I ship it to a
business or residential address.
I'd also recommend paying a bike shop that does mail order to pack and
ship the bike. The shop will generally provide a used box and
Between the 4th and 11th works fine for me...
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> I'm in Sonoma County until the 30th, but could do something after
> that.
>
> On Dec 23, 5:56 pm, Esteban wrote:
> > I'm interested, for sure. It would be nice to meet many of you in
> > person. I'
Last week, I gave a pretty good deal on a Chris King headset to one of
our most loyal customers and friends. His income is way down this year
because of the economy, and he appreciated the price break, even if he
didn't ask for it or expect it. It helped me because it was snowing
and -10F outside
I'm in Sonoma County until the 30th, but could do something after
that.
On Dec 23, 5:56 pm, Esteban wrote:
> I'm interested, for sure. It would be nice to meet many of you in
> person. I'm in SF until Jan. 4th - but if you guys get something
> together before then, I'll just make the next one.
On Dec 23, 6:50 pm, "PATRICK MOORE" wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:04 PM, John McMurry wrote:
>
> > How's your quill stem look when you pull it out every year for
> > greasing?
>
> > [snippo]
>
> > And if you don't pull it out every year? Good luck getting it out (if
> > you rode it at all
I'm interested, for sure. It would be nice to meet many of you in
person. I'm in SF until Jan. 4th - but if you guys get something
together before then, I'll just make the next one.
On Dec 23, 5:31 pm, "David Estes" wrote:
> http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/Route/stages/stage8.html
>
> BTW
>
> All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down
> all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for
> spacers. Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem system:
> http://www.nvocomponents.com/
>
> -Jim G
>
Their motion graphic gi
http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/Route/stages/stage8.html
BTW, any thoughts re. a SoCal coastal get-together in the upcoming days?
Between Boxing Day and the 12th I'm pretty much available...
DE
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Doug Peterson wrote:
>
> We've got to find a good long hill wh
So is this some kind of legislative process whereby we determine what
kind of steer tube is right and proper for all, which then becomes the
law of the land? Have I missed something? I thought I was joining a
discussion of possible ways to get a threadless fork on a Rivendell or
similar bike. Is t
On Dec 23, 3:18 pm, "PATRICK MOORE" wrote:
" I think, opine, consider, think, presume, and believe that Grant was
wholly altruistic in his offer, and I applaud, congratulate, en-kudo,
praise, commend, and acclaim it whole heartedly."
Agree 100% ... dismissing as a clever marketing ploy is way
To get your bikes around domestically, look into shipping via either Fed Ex
or UPS ground. Contact your motel & ask them to take delivery of your bike
& ship it so it gets there a day or 2 ahead of you. Then when you leave you
just re-pack your bike, & ship it home. Usually runs around $45-50 e
Considering the recent weather all over the country, I'd be inclined to cut
'em some slack. Hey, you've got great reading for the next snowstorm!
dougP
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Horace wrote:
>
> "Neither snow nor rain nor heat of day nor gloom of night shall stay
> these couriers from
On Dec 23, 12:49 pm, palin...@his.com wrote:
> Quoting jim g :
>
> > This one's certainly not ugly...
>
> >http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529...
>
> No, not hardly! What is that luscious thing, anyway?
Custom Toei. Not mine, unfortunately.
-Jim G
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We've got to find a good long hill where we can watch. I went with some
people from LA last year to the top of a grade somewhere out maybe in
Ventura County. It was a circus & a lot of fun. The actual race group goes
by so quickly, even on a steep grade, it's pretty amazing. But it's one of
th
>>>Pull it out *every year for greasing*?
Blpfpht ppffft pop! crackle! Fwooom! That doesn't compute.<<
Thanks to Bill The Cat for weighing in on the topic..
I have to agree though, service bike parts as needed. Like most things, YMMV.
Regarding the now furious debate about
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:04 PM, John McMurry wrote:
>
>
>
> How's your quill stem look when you pull it out every year for
> greasing?
>
> [snippo]
>
> And if you don't pull it out every year? Good luck getting it out (if
> you rode it at all that year).
Huh? ***HUH* I've pulled quills
http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529941/
Gawd, that's even *pretty"!
IIRC, my brother had an old tandem frameset from the 1930s with a clamp on
stem rather like the pinch bolt system used on tricycles when I was a child.
Not elegant, but obviously not new, either.
No!!! I don't want steerer sticking up above my stem!!! Abominable! Won't do
it!!!
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM, jim g wrote:
>
>
> All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down
> all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for
> spacers. Or, if y
I think, opine, consider, think, presume, and believe that Grant was wholly
altruistic in his offer, and I applaud, congratulate, en-kudo, praise,
commend, and acclaim it whole heartedly.
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On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:41 PM, jim g wrote:
>
> On Dec 23, 12:15 pm, "David Faller" wrote:
>> Exactly! Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into
>> the "differences as improvements", when, in fact, the differences are only
>> differences. Most threadless stems are jus
I just don't see this as some kind of competition.
Threadless stems came about for several good reasons, and that should
not be a threat to anyone. Both systems have their advantages. Not
being able to find a steel road fork with a 1" threadless steer tube
is a bit like not being able to find a c
> Of course there are as many opinions here as there are contributors as
> to what is an improvement and what is simply something different. If
> you like things just like they were in '81 or so, I am delighted that
> you can find all the stuff to keep your bikes the way you want them.
I do not k
Can't access his site right now (some miserable weather in Wisconsin,
maybe it knocked down a power line) but it looks like something from
Jonnycycles.
I have a custom Jonnycycle threadless stem on my threadless fork bike.
(I went with brushed nickel rather than the bright chrome). It is
beautif
On Dec 23, 3:15 pm, "David Faller" wrote:
> Exactly! Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into the
> "differences as improvements", when, in fact, the differences are only
> differences. > Most threadless stems are just ugly. I suppose some are a
> tad lighter, but thi
Dunno, but I'll bet it cost more than a Technomic Deluxe! B-)
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Quoting jim g :
> This one's certainly not ugly...
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529941/
No, not hardly! What is that luscious thing, anyway?
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Please keep in mind that no one here has said they thought Riv should
abandon threaded forks; only that for those of us who could derive a
benefit from it (real or imagined), it would be great to have the
option of a threadless setup. Either as an option on a new Riv, or
from some aftermarket manu
On Dec 23, 12:15 pm, "David Faller" wrote:
> Exactly! Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into the
> "differences as improvements", when, in fact, the differences are only
> differences. Most threadless stems are just ugly. I suppose some are a tad
> lighter, but thi
I believe that it's not recommended to clamp threadless stems on threaded
steerers. Stress risers, catastrophic failure, that sort of thing.
Really, the 1" threaded setup is nearly as ubiquitous to Rivendell as
lugs--there are plenty plenty of bikes out there to choose from if the quill
stem'
Exactly! Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into the
"differences as improvements", when, in fact, the differences are only
differences. Most threadless stems are just ugly. I suppose some are a tad
lighter, but this was never the reason for the new design. And what'
On Dec 23, 11:53 am, Mike wrote:
> It seems to me that if you want a bike with a threadless headset that
> you might want to go with something other than a Rivendell. Unless you
> get a Legolas. There are tons of custom frame builders willing to make
> lugged frames with threadless headsets. And
Unless I'm missing something, there's no need to cut the threaded
portion off. One possible hiccup would be if the uppermost race
couldn't be slid into place over the threads, but I think that's
unlikely. The stem will then clamp quite happily over the threads.
In order to keep the geometry as de
Tried a bike this past year with a threadless stem; it was the largest
sized, and I could *not* find a production stem that brought the bars
within a cm of saddle height (cm to zero difference) that wasn't
stretched too far, or just incredibly ugly. Even then, I couldn't get
it to work. Maybe if t
It seems to me that if you want a bike with a threadless headset that
you might want to go with something other than a Rivendell. Unless you
get a Legolas. There are tons of custom frame builders willing to make
lugged frames with threadless headsets. And these with custom stems
look really nice.
> All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down
> all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for
> spacers. Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem
> system:http://www.nvocomponents.com/
But then you either have ugly steerer tube protuding atop t
I have a new, 36-hole Velocity Synergy, non O/C, and
I have a new, 32-hole Velocity Blunt, non O/C, but I need a
new, 32-hole Velocity Synergy, non O/C. All 650b (or 584mm) sized.
I'd like to trade either rim, straight up.
I also have a new, 36-hole Mavic A719, 700c rim that I'd be happy to trad
On Dec 23, 11:25 am, "PATRICK MOORE" wrote:
> I've used, and adjusted, exactly one threadless stem in all my years of
> riding, and (1) I was hugely impressed with how easy it is to adjust; not
> only easy, but simple! But (2) I was also very disconcerted (and I realize
> that this is a purely pe
I've used, and adjusted, exactly one threadless stem in all my years of
riding, and (1) I was hugely impressed with how easy it is to adjust; not
only easy, but simple! But (2) I was also very disconcerted (and I realize
that this is a purely personal reaction) when I couldn't easily fine tune
the
Quoting George Schick :
>
> Now, this is not to imply that a similar thing couldn't happen to a
> threaded set up, but they're usually things you have to look for ahead
> of time anyway - are the top and bottom edges of head tube straight
> and parallel, is the crown race evenly seated, is the cr
Sold! Thanks for your interest.
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Like Jim, I'd take that bet as well. :-) I'm always on the active
lookout for Legolas in the wild, and to date have only seen them as CX
race bikes or road-ish/brevet bikes.
So how much were you considering waging? Perhaps a slice of pumpkin
pie, washed down with a pint?
Gino
On Tue, Dec 23
I was both impressed with Rivendell and touched by the offer.
Literally. I lost my job in May of last year - due to both company
restructuring and the economy. It had been slow at my employer for the
last year or two.
Unfortunately when the discount came down I couldn't afford to spend
the money
I can see valid points on both sides of this issue and I have bikes
with threadless as well as threaded steering tubes/stems. But one
thing found out the hard way about threadless that has made me a wee
bit leery - if you buy a cheapo threadless stem, and the bottom edge
of it (the part where it
on 12/23/08 8:20 AM, Atlantean at softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I understand why a lot of cyclists want to hang on to forged aluminum
> stems for aesthetic reasons. But like lugs, pneumatic tires,
> cotterless cranks, aluminum rims and dozens of other things, they were
> introdu
> Like cassette hubs, index shifting, dual pivot brakes, single rail
> saddles, and on and on, threadless forks have a certain inevitability
> about them because they are technical improvements. Yes, it's easier
> to raise and lower your bars within a narrow range with a quill stem,
> but that's t
Sorry to hear that Tim. I know you have all that old McNamara money
behind you, but let me know if you guys need any help with anything.
Personally, I found the discount to be a clever bit of marketing.
Discounts, even steep ones, aren't uncommon in the bike business this
time of year, and anybod
I understand why a lot of cyclists want to hang on to forged aluminum
stems for aesthetic reasons. But like lugs, pneumatic tires,
cotterless cranks, aluminum rims and dozens of other things, they were
introduced as a technical improvement. Forged aluminum stems are much
lighter than forged steel
> Hmmm. I wonder if Grant would sell a Legolas fork separately? Or are
> they "oversized" as well as threadless?
But won't the angles be different?
On Dec 23, 9:30 am, Atlantean
wrote:
> Cutting the threaded part off works just fine, if the steerer is long
> enough. In the case of my fixie, I d
> Even more sensible, IMO, would be to decide to get along with the fork
> that came with the bike, or if a threaded fork is a show-stopper, to
> get a different frame, one with a threadless fork. There are plenty
> enough of them.
I am on your side on this. As long as Nitto is making its wonde
Cutting the threaded part off works just fine, if the steerer is long
enough. In the case of my fixie, I did find a few threadless forks on
eBay and such some time back, but I was having trouble even finding a
new threadless steerer that's long enough for a 25" frame. Typical
9/8" threadless mount
Quoting JoelMatthews :
>
>> Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the
>> same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be
>> just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the
>> dimension of fork blades that th
Perhaps a bit off the wall, but couldn't you buy a threaded fork with a too
long steerer and cut the threaded bit off?
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On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:20 AM, rob markwardt wrote:
> The whole discount thing was a little unclear. I read it several times
> and still kind of thought it was a discount for all members who had
> been affected by the poor economy. Too many ifs, ands, and ors...
> (apostrophe or not?).
It didn't
shipping yr ride
to an lbs
is always an option
ive had many folks over the yrs
ask to ship to the shop
no charge for them to have it arrive and pick up
ive never had another lbs charge me anything for doing same
of course i dont ask em to assemble
nor do i ask to use their tools
take enuf to assem
> Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the
> same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be
> just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the
> dimension of fork blades that the bicycle was designed for.
E
Quoting rob markwardt :
>
> The whole discount thing was a little unclear. I read it several times
> and still kind of thought it was a discount for all members who had
> been affected by the poor economy. Too many ifs, ands, and ors...
> (apostrophe or not?).
Here's what they said:
1. You o
I though the Rivendell offer was generous in spirit and in practice.
What they were offering was clear. Seems odd to pick it apart...
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