[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

I'm in for the long haul. I bought Moustache Bars from RBW for my REI XR way back in the early 1990's, so that must have been when Grant first put up a sign. When I was doored in 1997, I used the insurance settlement toward a custom-sized 65cm LongLow, which I still have, and love. Phil hubs,

Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Ride

Grant's 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 had a 54mm trail with 25mm tires. The 2022 Roadini had a trail of around 58mm but with a 5mm lower BB. The Cheviot (I can't find numbers for the Platypus) had a trail of 58mm with a 25mm tire (but obviously few people would run 25mm tires on that bike), but even

[RBW] Re: The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

I have one Riv that already does all this, but I'm cheating the premise of the thread cuz it's a custom I had built for the purpose. So I'll shift my answer to: What if I didn't have a car and part of the ride to go shopping included gnarly singletrack! Ok the answer is Gus Boots-Willsen. I'd

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried this type of brifter-like shifter/brake lever combo as cockpit option?

Hi Scott, These were actually introduced with Shimano's second run at RapidRise so you have the right idea combining the two: the idea is Dual Control is you could nudge the lever up or down on either side and get the same higher or lower gears. My rather vague recollection is the paddle was

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried this type of brifter-like shifter/brake lever combo as cockpit option?

Yeah, I had those on a fancy mountain bike for a while when I was still into that (next trail bike will likely be an Atlantis, so you can tell where my priorities are now). I didn't find them any better than trigger shifters, or even regular old thumb shifters, which are my preference now. I do

Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Ride

My Monday ride to Olema from San Francisco confirmed the magic of the Rivendell Ride over the 80 miles of mixed terrain and 9k in climbing. I’m grateful to finally have one. On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:50:47 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote: > Yeah...Grant has something going on there that first

Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Ride

Yeah...Grant has something going on there that first drew me with the X0-1 ...which is like a sports car...and then there is something really plush about the road bike and the A/R I have. Plush, but far from sluggish. I don't know how he does it either , even though he's written about it a lot

[RBW] Has anyone tried this type of brifter-like shifter/brake lever combo as cockpit option?

First off, I know they ain't pretty. But has anyone given these a go? Coming from the MTB world I've never run swept back bars (confession) and have always marveled at the different cockpit set-ups folks come-up with: shifters and brake levers here, there, and everywhere. MTBing junky stuff, I

Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Ride

Oh I haven't the first clue how Grant does it. There's something going on with the numbers and tubes that makes them ride like a Harley Softail on the straights AND a Ducati Panigale in the turns. It's bonkers! On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:51:31 PM UTC-8 J J wrote: > You hit it on the

Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Ride

You hit it on the head, Joe. Thanks for the thread. With all of your experience on a gazillion bikes, what do you think accounts for “the magical Riv ride he designs into these frames”? What makes it happen? > On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > This is an edited version of an

Re: [RBW] The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

My riding is 75% around town on a fixed gear, with the rest made up of mountain biking and some geared road rides. I would probably end up forgoing my mountain biking and get a Quickbeam as my Riv one and only bike. Eric On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 4:35 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > The threads on

[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

I go all the way back to the Bridgestone days, but my first Rivendell was a first generation Sam Hillborne, circa 2009. I have a soft spot for models from that era. I’m slowly warming up to the idea of longer chainstays though, so we’ll see if my currently-in-the-build-process Platypus ends up

[RBW] Re: The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

Ah, one bike topic—winter time must be upon us.  I’m also fortunate to have a bike for almost every purpose. But if I had to choose one, it wouldn’t be a Rivendell. Unfortunately, there is no lighter tubed, traditional Diamond frame bike with ~2.2” clearance available. I currently ride a

[RBW] Hillborne / Hilsen: touring capable?

In my estimation, my 2015 Sam Hillborne is pretty nearly the perfect touring bike for overnighters or multi-day rail trail trips. I have a Hilsen which is a bit more lively and a really nice mixed-surface riding bike. (Yes, I am spoiled.) I realize this topic has likely come up before: Every

[RBW] The Rivendell Ride

This is an edited version of an email I recently sent Grant, I wanted to post here cuz I think the magical Riv ride he designs into these frames is slightly under discussed..like we all know it and love it, then talk about other stuff like paint and parts. My comments are specifically about my

[RBW] Re: Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

I realize this is just a fun thought-exercise, but I think I can confidently say that they wouldn't even consider the idea. The reason being that Grant has made it clear that he doesn't like the proportions of small wheels on a big frame - even when "small" means 26"/559 wheels. I'd guess

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

Yes, changed stems:Soma Portola with 6cm extension TechnomicNitto Labarross with 10cm extension TechnomicBoth were raised pretty high but the Albatross is nearly the the minimum insertion line (1cm shy) while the Portola was about 4cm shy of min insertion line. I’m a heavy guy with long torso and

[RBW] Re: Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

I'm also just rambling. I'd certainly like to see one, my opinion is every style of bicycle would benefit from Grant's design abilities! On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 1:11:19 PM UTC-8 lconley wrote: > I was not thinking that it would be "mini". I was thinking that you could > get the

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

Abe, I forgot to ask, did you change the stem length going from the Soma Portola to the Albatross? Max On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote: > I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my Charlie, > but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my Charlie, but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't installed my grips yet, but after a quick 20m ride my hands/wrists made it clear that the angle wasn't working. Here is a photo of the process, I'll post the new setup once I

[RBW] Re: FS: Black Titanium B17 and Nitto S83 26.8

Hi, all: The saddle and seat post sold. Thanks! On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:31:14 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote: > Emailed you directly. > > -Danny > > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:20:41 PM UTC-6 ryanca...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hi, all: >> >> I'm hoping to find a home for a saddle and

[RBW] The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

The threads on Platypus versus [name] and using versus "saving" your Rivendell raises an interesting if (fortunately!) academic question: if you could have only 1 Rivendell as your only bicycle, and that Rivendell had to serve all purposes -- fast pavement, commuting, errand loads, at least light

[RBW] Re: Can I use my RB-1 parts on a new Riv?

Short answer, yes, mostly. I just did this from a 92 RB-1 to a 2022 Roadini (I needed/wanted wider tires, the RB-1 max is 28). The bars, stem, brake levers and bar end shifters came off intact and went on the Roadini. Cable stops, wheels, rear derailleur and crank as well. The Ultegra rear

[RBW] FS: Platypus 60cm - Choose Your Own Adventure

*FS: Platypus 60cm - Choose Your Own Adventure* This frame is a quick catch and release from another list member in efforts to thin the stable. This one just wasn’t for me! Selling this as rolling chassis, frame/fork or complete with some options. In excellent condition, one small ding in

[RBW] Re: Flyer vs. B67

So, after trying them all over the last couple months, I am (or, my hindquarters are…) happiest with the B67. It’s the perfect fit for my sit bones in the position I am in on the Platypus and doesn’t get in the way of anything while pedaling. Any helpful suggestions on divesting of the spares?

[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

TIres sold. On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:22:43 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote: > Hello, > > Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate > shipping. I can provide more photos of any of the items. Also happy to > answer any questions. > > *Nitto Bullmoose

[RBW] FS: Brooks Flyer aged tan

Like new condition purchased in August 2022 as I sorted out which seat worked best for me on my new Platypus. I ended up preferring the B67 so looking to part ways with this one. $110. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Winter Parts Bin Clear out

Lots of parts gone, here's what's left: 7) Suntour Cyclone 7000 Pedals - *$30 * --I had these in a previous post, they're now available again. Comes with Cateye cages attached. I have not tried to clean these up too extensively, some rust/beausage as shown in pics. Bearing spin smoothly. 9)

Re: [RBW] saddle angle and lower back pain

Is your saddle a new one and a Brooks? I used a great many different kinds of saddle before I settled on my choice (the original Flite) including many Brooks models. I found that Brooks saddles (and possibly Ideals and others of the type; I used mostly Brookses) require both more tilt and a more

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

I got some Shimano levers for my internal gear bikes from Peter White that have two position cable attachments for normal or linear brakes. The right side lever has an integrated thumb shifter for the 8 speed Shimano hub. I don't know if a non-integrated right lever exists. The Paul

[RBW] Re: Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

I was not thinking that it would be "mini". I was thinking that you could get the advantages of the long chain stays, long top tube and long wheelbase, in the overall length of a "normal" non-Riv bike. It would then be more usable when transporting on public transportation and easier to

[RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

Besides looking at photos of built Platys here (this thread ended up collecting quite a few from the last round), I've been looking at instagram photos tagged #rivendellplatypus

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

I think there is a small ducktail effect at the back of the saddle. It's quite old (it might be an early first generation) I wouldn't doubt if there's some stretch or sagg from years if use. You can see where I sit on the saddle as it's a bit more worn in the area. I may have just won the

Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

I wish I had tried flat bars (or nitto wavies) on the romanceur before I sold it. I did appreciate it's slow speed maneuverability, especially while climbing. it may have been a good compromise to drop bars vs swept backs! Maybe it would have mitigated some of the front wheel lifting off bumps

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:50:35 PM UTC-6 Mackenzy Albright posted a photo of his Riv with a Cambium saddle Interesting - from that angle it looks like the Cambium has some dip to it. All the other photos I've seen make it look like it runs straight along the top from nose to tail.

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

You're right... a bit more rail length on the Cambiums as the Brooks rails are notoriously short. This, along with the thickness of the leather, is one of the reasons why I really love the Berthoud saddles, but I still have a few B17 Specials that fit me like an old baseball glove, and I would

[RBW] Re: Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

I think it would be an interesting exercise and in the current "they all sell out" climate Riv would probably do ok with one, but you'd have to convince Grant there's a reason to own one. I had a VO Neutrino for a while, which I bought online, and was quite surprised to discover how

[RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

Here’s my build list: Frame & Fork: Rivendell Platypus, 60cm Headset: FSA Duron X1 Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood 113/68 Crank: Silver Low/Low w/guard 34x24 Cassette: Shimano XT 11-34 Pedals: MKS Bear Trap, Silver+Black Handlebars: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose Brake Levers: Paul Canti Levers, Polished

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:20:50 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > I suppose I didn't expect the rubber Brooks Cambium vs. a leather Brooks > (or other similar brand leather saddle) could be making the difference > here, but that's a good point. > I would expect a difference

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

Thanks!  On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:12:49 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote: > OK, I’ll start a new thread. Alan - great photos. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

Have fun, David! Looking forward to seeing yours take shape. On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:39:16 PM UTC-8 DavidP wrote: > Alan - I've been following your build and it's fantastic. > > Looks like I can get started on mine: > > [image: IMG_20221115_172729362_2.jpg] > > -Dave > > On Saturday,

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

I suppose I didn't expect the rubber Brooks Cambium vs. a leather Brooks (or other similar brand leather saddle) could be making the difference here, but that's a good point. Personally, I prefer leather, but I don't see a lot of difference in the pliability and cush of the rubber in the

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

OK, I’ll start a new thread. Alan - great photos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

[RBW] How are you building up your Platypus?

For those of us who have ordered a Platypus, and got a “raw” frame in a box, I’m interested in how people are building them up. I’m also interested in how previous Platy people from the last batch (raw plus Riv builds) have built up theirs. I’m coming at this from: This build is for my

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

I’ve been slowly building up my 60cm Platypus over the past few weeks as parts trickle in and I wait for delivery of the custom wheels. I’ve been posting some photos and comments on the build on my IG if anyone is interested. https://www.instagram.com/ecovelo.us/ On Wednesday, November 16,

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

Hijack away! I’m interested! I hope you get it all figured out and show us the photos!On Nov 16, 2022, at 2:45 PM, aeroperf wrote:Thanks, Scott.  That helps a lot.I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet.I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though.  I

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

Thanks, Scott. That helps a lot. I’m going for Tektro linear pull V-brakes, but no decision on levers yet. I like the adjustable pull on those levers, though. I hadn’t run into that before. I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but “Who is getting a Platypus”? implies “and how are you going

Re: [RBW] Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

IIRC, the very first "Rosco Bubbe" was indeed a 20" mini / youth-proportioned Rivendell prototype. I have pics of it somewhere deep down in a hole. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/16/22, amillhe...@gmail.com wrote: > I think a mini-Riv would be cool. Lugs, long chainstays, fully eyeleted,

[RBW] Re: Winter Parts Bin Clear out

Update and some price drops. Open to offers as well. 1) Shimano 600 RD - *$20* --RD-6401, great shape. I believe this is short-cage. 2) Campy Veloce RD 28.6 - *$20* 3) Suntour DT Shifters - $15 4) Suntour Thumbies - SOLD --I had these in a previous post. In good shape, missing one of the

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

Thanks, shoji. My mind is still stuck in the side pull era of early Sams and Homers, so I need to get educated, and that helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > So this leads me to question the whole upwards tilt thing as it relates to > these types of Riv models and how folks ride them. I know everyone is > different, and there's always going to be those who prefer upward

Re: [RBW] Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

I think a mini-Riv would be cool. Lugs, long chainstays, fully eyeleted, 2”+ tires. I remember when Riv did a review of the rim brake Pugsley. I thought that would be a cool Rivendell model also. Best, Aaron in El Paso On Nov 16, 2022, at 07:03, lconley wrote: I have wondered what a

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

To Aeroperf: Brake levers depend on the brakes you want to install: cantilever or V-brakes use different levers (short vs long pull). The nicest levers I have are from Paul Components, but they're . Shimano brake levers for short or long pull are nice in my hand (probably better "value").

[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Susie Longbolts

Bump for price drop sitting around 3500 for the full build :) On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:15:56 PM UTC-6 Maxwell Seebeck wrote: > Hey folks! Unfortunately I will be parting ways with my beloved Susie. > I currently do not ride her as much as I should plus the N+1 factor is in > full

[RBW] Just thinking - Rivendell mini-velo?

I have wondered what a Rivendell version of a mini-velo would be like. A mini velo is a small tired, non-folding but full size bike like the VO Neutrino, BikesDirect also had one some years back. You could have the long Riv wheelbase and ride, without the actual total bike length being any

Re: [RBW] Re: A Few Thoughts About FS posts

I have similar thoughts. I am slowly selling off my way too large stash of bicycles. I have sold my two Sam frames on this site and also have an original model (quick releases, not through bolts) fat tired Crust Scapegoat that I was considering posting here when the time came. I basically

[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

I would fall mostly into the Golden Ager, but also the Proto Riv as you define them. I tried one longer chainstay Riv and we did not connect. I currently have a Hillborne which while a newer design for me is more old school, and a Saluki. I have had Riv Roads, a Custom, an AR, and the list

[RBW] Re: saddle angle and lower back pain

I am no stranger to back pain, have had it for over 30 years and 3 back surgeries. I ride my brooks level but not because of back pain but other issues as knee and leg pain and tilting the saddle up gives me numbness. I do ride my saddle lower than my bars which for me makes sense. . Also

Re: [RBW] For Sale: A23 Wheel set and Components from a 2020 Roadini build

My apologies for not being in compliance with the group norms and regulations. I will be removing and revising this post by the end of the day today. Thank you. Rob CollardBuffalo, NY On Nov 16, 2022, at 2:56 AM, Luke Hendrickson wrote:YupOn Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8 Brendan

Re: [RBW] saddle angle and lower back pain

I also tilt my Brooks up to keep me from sliding towards the nose. Angling too much gets me in the front, especially if forget to unweight at a pothole or bump (ouch! ). I find there’s a narrow opportunity for angle perfection. I look at pictures of my bike and I think the upward tilt is