Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride: wee dram optional

2020-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2011/jun/13/poem-week-g-k-chesterton On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:02 AM Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > “Bannockburn by way of Brighton Beach” is dead funny, and euphonious. And > dark, considering Bannockburn’s place in history,

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride: wee dram optional

2020-02-16 Thread Philip Williamson
“Bannockburn by way of Brighton Beach” is dead funny, and euphonious. And dark, considering Bannockburn’s place in history, which sets up the last verse pretty well. The rest of it I’ll have to google. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride: wee dram optional

2020-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
One of your best stories yet. I'm sorry you have no photos. To celebrate the anecdote, here is a poem first publishe din 1913 under the title "A Song Of Temperance Reform." The Rolling English Road By G. K. Chesterton Before the Roman came t

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-29 Thread lum gim fong
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Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-28 Thread Ryan Fleming
I hear you about accidents in traffic I've never enjoyed riding in heavy traffic at the best of times ...but next spring (since I don't ride in winter...prefer walking) I'm going to be even more attentive...not that I wasn't when I had my accident On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 12:22:58 PM U

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-26 Thread RJM
MTB single track and some double. Not terribly technical, but steep climbs are the norm. I've started doing a bunch of gravel riding too and have been shying away from riding in traffic. Too many incidents and a few deaths have me rethinking it. -- You received this message because you are su

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
My experience exactly. For a while, I tried watching TV shows, but already crappy shows just got crappier, and so much slower that they were painful to watch. That said, I have to acknowledge the others who do tolerate and even thrive on indoor training. If it works, good for you. If I lived in a p

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-25 Thread Ryan Fleming
I take it RJM means MTB single and double track On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 12:15:26 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > When you say "trail riding" are you referring to riding paved bike > trails, or to MTB single or double track? > > > On 11/25/2016 01:07 PM, RJM wrote: > > I spend a de

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
When you say "trail riding" are you referring to riding paved bike trails, or to MTB single or double track? On 11/25/2016 01:07 PM, RJM wrote: I spend a decent amount of time on the trainer throughout the year and actually like following workouts using it, which has helped me greatly now tha

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
It's been many years since I was last at a spin class, but they had a very mixed programme including sprints at a very high RPM, "hill climbing" with very high resistance, a lot of out-of-the-saddle work and one-legged drills. It was a very intense workout, and many of the skills transferred t

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
I am definitely beginning to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QEDb3xzdec On 11/24/2016 05:38 AM, Garth wrote: Maybe if you would cease yours you would understand . Ahahahahahahaahahahahaha! On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:46:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Tim

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-24 Thread Garth
Maybe if you would cease yours you would understand . Ahahahahahahaahahahahaha! On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:46:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Time for your meds, Garth. > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Garth > > wrote: > >> >> Riding is riding. >> >> Why is

Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

2016-11-23 Thread Patrick Moore
Time for your meds, Garth. On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Garth wrote: > > Riding is riding. > > Why is why. > > The two can't be mixed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride - Kindle Version - One Sale

2014-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
One sale to rule them all! Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:53 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Wow! I bought a hard copy when it first came out but for that price I > just b

Re: [RBW] Re: just ride sighting

2013-06-08 Thread cyclotourist
Awesome! Cheers, David On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hah! I think Riv might be a new house staging trend. Check this out: > > > http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1518-W-13th-St-The-Dalles-OR-97058/86346788_zpid/#hdp-photo-lightbox > > -Aaron > Vancou

Re: [RBW] Re: just ride sighting

2013-06-08 Thread Aaron Young
Hah! I think Riv might be a new house staging trend. Check this out: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1518-W-13th-St-The-Dalles-OR-97058/86346788_zpid/#hdp-photo-lightbox -Aaron Vancouver, WA On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > Liesl, > I would love to meet up - but I don

Re: [RBW] Re: just ride sighting

2013-06-06 Thread Seth Vidal
Liesl, I would love to meet up - but I don't live in Madison. My Little brother lives up there and me and the SO have talked about moving up there. We like the feel and the bike-ness of it. Not sure we can leave Durham, NC, though. It's a good problem to have, to love too many places. :) And onto

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride!

2013-04-30 Thread clyde canter
I remember Turbos. I thought they were the best saddles ever. However when handlebar height equals or exceeds saddle height they become quite uncomfortable. For me at least. I can't convince my lower back to bend over that far for any length of time anymore. Never owned a Flite. My humble opinio

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride!

2013-04-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I find that the original Flites are the most comfortable - they disappear. Even better than original issue Turbos, which are a bit too rounded. Of all the Brookses, the Pro was the best, but I could not comfortably adjust the tilt, so after 12-18 months I sold it. B17s are too wide. On Mon, Apr 29

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Morgano
Funny when I was wrestling we called them squat thrusts, they were still a pain though, haha. But the most exerting exercise I remember was the duck walk where you obvioulsy squat down and walk like a duck but you have to hold you ankles while you do it, man everthing burned after a minute or two,

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride it!

2012-05-23 Thread cyclotourist
All those ladies can't be wrong! On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon in > a funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, "Yeh, that's > real popular... wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride it!

2012-05-23 Thread Bruce Herbitter
You mean my old digs of Far Rockaway will never make the grade? Some Genny Cream would be good right now (not available in the deep South where I pedal these days) On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Rick wrote: > > I love how all of Brooklyn is lumped in as hipster and cool. > > And that no amount

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride it!

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Morgano
I love how all of Brooklyn is lumped in as hipster and cool. Hilarious for those of us who live in the thoroughly uncool areas like Bay Ridge where Coors Lite rules, that is in south area of Bay Ridge. I live in an all Muslim area where you cant get beer or wine, or pork products for that matter bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-23 Thread Steven Frederick
Man, that's an effective analogy! I'm going to use that... Steve, make mine loafers. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Peter Pesce wrote: > Exactly. What if every shoe store in America only sold running shoes and > hiking boots? And the staff looked at you cross-eyed if you dared suggest > you

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My experience, too. Albuquerque has a very extensive cycling population among whom are many racers. I've "caught up" to or otherwise ridden with several of the higher level ones and they have been uniformly polite; one sponsored man telling me, "hang on, if you want." (I wanted but realized I could

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-21 Thread Peter Morgano
Peer pressure might be a big part of it but the same can also be said for the "fixie" or "29er" crazes. I know a few years ago my LBS was full of muscle heads who were interested in going down a hill really fast who how now gone back to the gym or tanning booths where they came from. For me it isn

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-19 Thread Justin August
Jim- Thanks! You're one of the folks who steered me and my family towards Riv and Surly. I just emailed GP because the Kindle version has his name as "Grant Persen" on the title page. Hopefully they fix it and push it out to us nonpaper folks. I wish I could have purchased an electronic version

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Corollary to Justin's excellent point of 'whatever makes you happy is nobody else's business', I think Grant is saying 'don't be bullied into conformity by popular bike culture, particularly by unrealistic racing fantasies'. Sometimes I think Grant likes to humorously needle even conformity wit

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-19 Thread Justin August
Shouldn't we all just be having fun when we ride? If 23mm tires and carbon is truly, in a zen way, fun for you: do it! Mirrors, panniers, bags, steel? Do it. 650b fixed gear 70s racer to townie conversion? Do it! (I do!) Much like underwear, as long as its not chafing others who cares what other

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Buy the Pacer frame and build it up as a 650b. It's a super bike (700c or 650b)! I'm sure the Cross Check and Long Haul Trucker are great bikes as well. I tell my friends to find one of those used on Craigslist as a great starter bike. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscrib

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Bruce Herbitter
A local riding buddy has a Riv'd out Surly Pacer and it is a dynamite bike. Originally done in black it was just powder coated custard at Spectrum and looks nice. Rides great too. Maybe he'll post a picture. Needs lugs though :) On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Jim, >

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I can't know her (or anyone else's!!!) motivation, desires, intention or financial situation, but it just seems that buying a good middle of the road do-everything versatile bike for a first "adult" bike is a good idea. Try it out in a bunch of different situations; club rides, commuting, CC to

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride on NPR's Morning Edition May 18

2012-05-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting; I see a trend away from "real cyclist = racer" and doubtless this NPR piece is both a sign and will be an encouragement of the trend. Interesting, too: first, that Grant hasn't managed yet to shed all his lowdown, racer-boy ways (I can sympathize, tho' I never raced formally -- slow m

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The woman in question didn't buy a bike from me yet, but the Pacer, Cross-check, and San Marcos were the three I showed her. Most of the problem is not "speed", but wanting to fit in with the clubby roadies she imagines she'll ride with someday. And those guys have preached a different sort of g

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Pondero
Totally on board with the ride for fun philosophy, but I also suspect that some of those in-training racer folks are actually having fun. That was me 10 years ago. But what fun is to me has changed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunc

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Preaching to the choir man, rode plastic bikes for years for how light and perceived "fast" they were. Always uncomfortable, now feel liberated on my 42s getting passed by team kit getting ready for the tour in their minds. On May 18, 2012 1:18 AM, "Allan in Portland" wrote: > Well, it's not a

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-17 Thread Peter Morgano
I think that part of the issue is racy weight conscious 25mm tire riders probably aren't looking at rivendell or surly since they have aspirations to be "fast" in the club. I banish them to madone land, hahaha. Sometimes you can't have it all, why not just 2 bikes that each serve a purpose they

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-17 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Geez Allan. I don't recall you mentioning the strip clubs to me last week. I ended up spending all my money at art museums and such. Sigh. I did however ride around Portland a bit, several times. A bike ride is a bike ride. :-) On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Allan in Portland wrote: > Don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-17 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I read the last issue of Momentum online after the Riv ad was linked. Is it always available online for free? Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To u

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-12 Thread Mojo
I am in the boonies of western Colorado so will not get to see the GGBT (great Grant book tour). But I am enjoying the book. Being a Riv member since 1995 I have heard most (all?) of it before. But still what a great viewpoint of a simple fun semi-exercise. He describes all the negative things

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-12 Thread Brian Hanson
The ride worked out well. Grant had to leave for the airport by 7:30, so we had to cut out the out and back to Golden Gardens, but the ride to the locks, and back along both sides of the canal was really pleasant. We didn't have much foot traffic to contend with when crossing the locks, and even

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I bought a '92 XO-1 in 1993 and at that point became aware of Bridgestone/Grant/the iconoclasm that became part of Rivendell. I joined the BOB in 1993, got on the early Riv mailing list in 1994 and ordered my first frame at the end of that year. I was pretty aware of what was on the mainstream mark

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2012, at 9:21 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Good points by Jim and Addison. Grant certainly was at the start of a > sea change over the last 10+ years in the bike industry True enough although Grant's impact goes back to the B-stone days and it just took a while for the larger industry

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Good points by Jim and Addison. Grant certainly was at the start of a sea change over the last 10+ years in the bike industry -- I remember when Rivendell was the only source (at least, the only one relatively easy to find) for Brooks saddles and Carradice saddlebags and one of the few voices promo

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-10 Thread Addison Wilhite
I had a similar reaction that I wrote about here after the 2012 NAHBS: http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/03/reflections-on-north-american- handmade.html

Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-02 Thread Bill Gibson
ETA for my paper-copy Amazon pre-order is Fryday. Oops, shouldn't announce that on the internets. Might attract Ninja cyclists... On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM, RJM wrote: > I had no idea it was coming out on Kindle. That is great news. > > > On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:43:20 PM UTC-5, EricP w