[Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Steve Bosshard
Sounds like some of us 'elmers' may not be imparting information very well. At Ham Coffee the other morning a ham that operates HF, did not have a clue what a beverage antenna was. Maybe a matter of not imparting knowledge effectively, OR a matter of hams that already know everything. Steve N

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bob M.
"Hams that already know everything..." I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. They're the ones that tell you "All the connectors on that thing over there

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dale Pratt
Sometimes you wonder how some people get along & exist from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr You know where they came from " The Chicken Band " and are Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea How a repeater works & wouldn't understand if you told them . It isn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher Zeman
lol I really needed a good laugh this morning. Sar far, I've gotten several. hehehehe Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. > "Hams that already know

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher Zeman
It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's that turn people away. Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: "Dale Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:52 AM Subject:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dave VanHorn
>Yup, a sheet full of dots and > dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse > character to it's appropriate letter, number, or > punctuation. As far as I'm aware that's legal per the FCC. It's not up to the VE groups to arbitrarily tighten the requirements or change the testing procedu

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Christopher Zeman wrote: > It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham > radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's > that turn people away. Now, we all know the downfall of ham radio will be the 20WPM Extras *ducks*

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Synthesizer

2006-02-17 Thread Jim B.
I suppose I should brave the cold and go out to the garage and dig out the GLB 300 I have...it was set up for an MHT series Motrac. I ran it for years on a Motran. I don't remember if the I.F. in the H series rx was the same...8Mhz... I think I have the book too... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher Zeman
I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who display an obvious lack of technical knowledge will also play a role. I'm re

Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread roger.white
Yes, the antenna is Andrews (old dB Products) dB224JJ, made for 220 MHz. I never did find it on their website, but they still make it. I ordered mine thru Hutton Electronics here in Dallas. Hutton Communications, Inc. 2520 Marsh Lane Carrollton, TX 75006 (877) 648-8866 Fax: (877) 762-8274 E-m

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Jim B.
Bob M. wrote: > "Hams that already know everything..." > > I think I've met a couple of those. They're the ones who tell you to > scrape all that ugly protective copper coating off the 1/2 inch > Heliax before you solder the center pin onto it. > > They're the ones that tell you "All the connect

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Jim B.
Dale Pratt wrote: > Sometimes you wonder how some people get along & exist > from day to day . When I hear stuff like that on 2 mtr > You know where they came from " The Chicken Band " and are > Telling the world without knowing it . They have no idea > How a repeater works & wouldn't underst

[Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread Steve Rubeck
Hello all, I am still looking for a source of Motorola Micor Range 1 receiver cards. 406-420 MHz. I’d like to use these for repeater linking.   Or does anyone have a source for any power, low split UHF 406-420 range Micor Repeater stations? I had a few contacts however still lo

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread dalite01
This is where the rubber meets the road as to the "problem with Ham Radio" As it has been stated before, Ham Radio seems to gather the most self-centered, egotistical, elite minded group of people who are the poorest of communicators.. Each one should have been required to take a Semantics course

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud

2006-02-17 Thread Jay Urish
I guess this is Off Topic(tm) But I have to agree, I am seeing more of the CB'ers getting licensed and showing up on 2m. Here in Denton we have lidiot that I have finally given up on that just cannot figure out how to say his own callsign. He chronically quick keys and cuts himself off.. Now I a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: old mobile telephone systems

2006-02-17 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Yes, IMTS, and other modes on same system, is dead in USA. Verizon, old GTE, turned off theirs in 1994. I was working with a company to use the system, but they could not compete with the shirt pocket cel phones. Verizon at the time was using the system only for their execs giving free to the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT-Code speed.. was Radio quality

2006-02-17 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Mike, Know what you mean with the amazment of watching a high speed CW op (35 wpm is nothing). Have local friend who was ship op for years back to WWII and he is great for Field Day. About the only one whose log can be read. I use to work a lot of CW and enjoyed it, but never broke 25 wpm. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher Zeman
"I guess I am still waiting for the one that wires an echo mike to his icom IC-27H." I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet myself. I will admit, however, that I would be rolling on the floor laughing harder than I have in a long time. Just the thought of it has me laughing my you-know-what off!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: old mobile telephone systems

2006-02-17 Thread Jim B.
Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote: > I have 3 or 4 sets of crystals for the Micor for the system, but little > interest. I am sure Verizon and others are keeping the freqs because > once someone gets a commerical freq they are very reluctent to give it > up. > > ron There was an FCC audit

RE: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Finch
Don't you just love it!!! Tell them to give you a "S" meter reading when doing it! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:03 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repea

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you tried ebay? Just in the last few weeks, there was a set of three - 406-420 MHZ range UHF MICOR mobiles that went for $10 for the set of three.   Sometimes you have to go digging.   LJ -Original Message- From: Steve Rubeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Feb 16, 2006 10:22 PM To: R

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bob M.
I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can control, as long as they state that before the test begins, which was not done in the particular cases I was at. VEs can over-rule an answer sheet on a written test, and they can interpret some other things as well. If a potential test taker does

[Repeater-Builder] This is sure getting away from Enhancing the Art of the Mobile Relay

2006-02-17 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Please indulge me one more tidbit. Of off topic blather The object of the Morse test is to demonstrate the ability to receive Morse at 5 WPM, and then demonstrate comprehension. Taking 45 minutes to translate dots and dashes into text does not constitute the ability to receive Morse at 5WPM.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Perryman
We have a local examiner who not only requires 100% solid copy... he also requires you to send as well. The part 97 reg regarding this is pretty vague... so I guess it is open to interpretation. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: old mobile telephone systems

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Perryman
As I recall, the Commission used a computer routine to search the ULS database for records (LMR, STL and RPU) that had never filed a "construction notice". This was for many records, not just Part 22. As far as I know.. all those "active" records were cancelled as of Feb. 1, 2006 But rumor ha

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bob M.
I'm not sure the FCC regs require 100% solid copy, but that's how I had to earn my code test, and I think it was done by listening to a 7.5 wpm ARRL transmission too. The transmitting portion is optional and I haven't heard of anyone doing a transmit test in a long while. Bob M. == --- Mike P

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Finch
Hello Group, Yes, I was a Tech Plus for around thirty years. I had no real interest in HF, I like building and modifying radios into repeaters. I worked in the Two-Way and paging industry for 35 years and now own and operate (maybe it operates me) my own Two-Way radio sales and service shop. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: old mobile telephone systems

2006-02-17 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Regarding RCC Channels, some system operators use the VHF and UHF mobilephone channels for LTR trunking with interconnect. This is permitted under FCC rules except there is more reporting to the commission. I started in 1975 maintaining a GE IMTS system and also used a SECODE 2805 / VP1 system.

RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Finch
Roger, Here in Dallas? I live in Azle, Texas about 50 miles West and do a lot of business with Hutton. I did not know they stocked those antennas. If my friend does not come up with the dipoles I may have to buy one. I wonder if you can get a replacement harness, that the hard thing to build o

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Finch
Or turn up your squelch, I can't hear you is another one! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to comm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread dalite01
Try "Turn up your RF Gain, you arent using enough power to get into the repeater" David -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [R

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Richard
Or, as one local Ham advised another, "turn up your power, your audio level is low." The other ham was nearly full quieting into the repeater. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Friday, February 17,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread DCFluX
I was always taught to squeze the PTT button harder when your not making the repeater, which in theory gets more RF out of the finals. On 2/17/06, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or, as one local Ham advised another, "turn up your power, your audio level > is low." The other ham was nearly fu

Re: RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread roger.white
Yes, over off George Bush, just south of the freeway, off Marsh Lane. It took a little while to receive it, but I had the time to wait, since I ordered it in November and did not think we would go up the tower until the spring warm weather. This Monday was in the 70's and today, as you know is i

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial resul

2006-02-17 Thread skipp025
> I finally got the dB224 220 MHz antenna up on our > tower this past Monday. As you may recall, this tower > is self supporting, 450 ft. tall and our 220 MHz > repeater antenna location is at the 250 ft. height, the > tower being 25 ft. wide at this location. I made the > decision, based prima

Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial resul

2006-02-17 Thread roger.white
I agree. My other hobby is drag racing with my son driving and this statement is so true. I have relearned it many times! The old saying, "Do it right the first time", is so true. The 3 dB antenna I bought a few years ago is only $300 less than the dB224JJ up there now. Roger W5RD >One of th

[Repeater-Builder] Duol band commercial antennas

2006-02-17 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys, Hopefully someone knows the anser. Someone around here said there is a duol band antenna that'll work in the ham bands as well as commercial. Any idea if such thing exists? Someone told me there is a dipol that works great. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jed Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vis

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
OH, I JUST HAVE TO REPLY TO THISAs a technician..(Yes I checked before starting) The way that I see it is that If you wanted to get on HF enough, you would what ever it takes to get there even if you do have to learn the simple 5 words a minute to get there. Therefore I must assume that

RE: RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Finch
Roger, I was asking if you live in Dallas? I have been to the Hutton location several times, never been on the new George Bush freeway. I worked in Plano for many years and the commute on 635 to and from Azle was terrible, I hear it's much worse now. Paul -Original Message- From: Repe

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
Right you are Bob! We, at our VE sessions, state up front that you are not allowed to copy dots and dashes and then go back and decode them. YES you/We can dis-allow this kind of thing and any VE worth his or her weight will do it. Copying dots and dashes only prove that you can hear. --- In

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread N9WYS
Only thing about using mobile receiver sections in a SpectraTAC is that the mobile receivers do not have the preselector on the board itself.  Otherwise, it’s plug and play…   Mark – N9WYS   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
Huh? Micor receivers are Micor receivers, whether they're sitting in a mobile, station, or SpectraTAC chassis. Or in some cases, even in a PURC/MSF5000 receiver chassis. --- Jeff > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duol band commercial antennas

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
I'm not perfectly sure that I completely understand exactly where you are going with your question, but, a lot of amateure repeaters use commertial antennas that are not being used any more. example you can use an antenna on the 2 meter band from the VHF high band commertial band they are ajace

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread N9WYS
Well, the last VHF Micor I looked at had the preselector in a different location... Or maybe it was an "SP" run. If so, I stand corrected. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo Sent: Friday, February 1

Re: RE: RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread roger.white
Oh, sorry. I live in Murphy (basically on the east side of the Richardson/Plano city limits). The good ole days of a pleasant commute are gone. When I moved to Murphy in the mid 80's from the Garland ghetto, I could see the skyline of downtown Dallas from the end of our street. Now, all I see a

[Repeater-Builder] RE Failure to Communicate

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
Last week end I attended Hamcation in Orlando. We had a discussion about ARRLs proposed NEW Entry level license. They said that they wanted more questions on operationa and procedures. My response was that technician ticket was the perfect entry level license..We had just had a ten year old pa

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread hwingate
Perhaps we need a special license class for the 'really advanced' amateurs. Click here: (author unknown) http://webpages.charter.net/k4hal/license.htm > It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. > They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's t

[Repeater-Builder] Extra Super Hams

2006-02-17 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Hey, got a couple here that come close. W5POG, Poor Old George Erickson celebrated 70 years as a ham radio operator yesterday. Was first licensed at age 14. Don't know what celebrate means at age 84 but hope to find out. Also Arden Clinger, W5CCD truned 90 late last year. Both are reasonably ac

[Repeater-Builder] Midland 70-525B UHF

2006-02-17 Thread Rob
Cleaning the cellar and found a box of Midland 70-525B UHF radios. Currently crystalled for 458.125, no mikes or power cables. Anyone interested in these for use as links, etc.? Please contact me directly. - Rob Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://gr

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I guess I'm confused - I'm using a VHF MICOR mobile receiver (converted to 2-Meters) which is installed in a Spectra-Tac receiver chassis. I didn't see anything strange about the receiver  when I installed it.   I also used a UHF MICOR mobile receiver in another Spectra-Tac receiver chassis in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Jim B.
Christopher Zeman wrote: > I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of license. I > could have been MUCH clearer in my previous post. Poor attitudes from > members of all license classes will play a big part in it. The amateurs who > display an obvious lack of technical knowl

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bryan Fields
On Friday 17 February 2006 02:22 pm, hwingate wrote: > Perhaps we need a special license class for the 'really advanced' > amateurs. Click here: (author unknown) Well we have this now, it's called a GROL/w radar. It's a 150 question test out of a pool of like 1450 or so. Some times you just n

[Repeater-Builder] GE cable ??

2006-02-17 Thread J Hughes
I have a bunch of new cables # 19D901864G3 There is only one plug at the end. What are they for ?? How much $$ ? Thanks K9JAC -- J Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher Zeman
Thank you! :) Chris N9XCR - Original Message - From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate. > Christopher Zeman wrote: > > > I don't think the downfall is going to be any particular class of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread radio5000
LMAO!!     In a message dated 2/17/2006 2:22:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://webpages.charter.net/k4hal/license.htm   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.   To unsubscribe from this group, send

[Repeater-Builder] Cables NKN6214B

2006-02-17 Thread J Hughes
I have 2 NKN6214B I know that they go to a Motorola Pac RT One is missing the silver plug to the control head. Anyone need them? Make me an offer -- J Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Buil

Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Morris
The JJ is mentioned on the Antennas page at repeaterbuilder, and the 224 data sheet is there too. At 06:10 AM 2/17/06, you wrote: >Yes, the antenna is Andrews (old dB Products) dB224JJ, made for 220 MHz. I >never did find it on their website, but they still make it. I ordered mine >thru Hutton

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Synthesizer

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Morris
At 06:09 AM 2/17/06, you wrote: >I suppose I should brave the cold and go out to the garage and dig out >the GLB 300 I have...it was set up for an MHT series Motrac. I ran it >for years on a Motran. I don't remember if the I.F. in the H series rx >was the same...8Mhz... >I think I have the book to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: old mobile telephone systems

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Morris
After the RCC systems died for years there were some local jammer hunters using the mobile side of RCC channel 24 as a secret coordination channel. They had programmed up some HT600s and MT1000s and were having a ball never used a callsign, and they never heard a complaint. Also the spacing be

RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Morris
At 08:52 PM 2/16/06, "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Roger, > >I am working on a 220 repeater as we speak and I am interested in this 220 >antenna you have. Is it actually a DB-224 that's tuned to 220 or is it some >other model that looks like a DB 224? > >I have a friend that builds a l

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3615

2006-02-17 Thread N5IUF
In a message dated 2/15/2006 1:55:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com writes: Message: 12           Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:16:24 -0600   From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: 220 MHz E F Johnson 529Hello,I got a wild idea to build a 220 MHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread N9WYS
Maybe I’m calling it something that it isn’t then…  I’m thinking of the solid aluminum block with screws and an antenna connection.  I was thinking that is the preselector.   I believe someone (more educated than I regarding the Micor) also told me information that at one point in tim

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Morris
At 02:15 PM 2/17/06, you wrote: Maybe Im calling it something that it isnt then&  Im thinking of the solid aluminum block with screws and an antenna connection.  I was thinking that is the preselector. I believe someone (more educated than I regarding the Micor) also told me information that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] dB224 220 MHz antenna up on large tower initial results...

2006-02-17 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Mike Morris wrote: > Check out West Marine, or any of the other marine supply houses. There > are a number of good products designed to keep water out of electrical > wiring. There's also an outfit called Del-City out of Chicago that lists many electrical items cheaper tha

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duol band commercial antennas

2006-02-17 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Once needed a combination VHF - 155.22 and UHF 463/468 antenna for a Med Control Base Station - Hustler in Mineral Wells, TX made some for me.  But these were for commercial and not ham.  I have often used a 155 Mhz db224 on 146 and had reasonable results - also with db420's.   Steve NU5D   On

[Repeater-Builder] VHF Seperation

2006-02-17 Thread KFD29
 Could anyone give me some advice regarding antenna seperation for a VHF Repeater...  Using TX of 152.000 and RX of 159.000, what would the min. vertical and horizontal be? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.   To unsubscribe fr

RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Seperation

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
The usual questions: How much transmitter power? What kind of transmitter and receiver? What kind of antennas? Are you using any other kind of external filtering, or trying to get by with just split antennas? What kind of feedline for each, and approximately how long?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Seperation

2006-02-17 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could anyone give me some advice regarding antenna seperation for a VHF > Repeater... Using TX of 152.000 and RX of 159.000, what would the min. > vertical and horizontal be? For what power level? Need to know your power level to know how many dB of separation you

[Repeater-Builder] re: Code/Ham License Classes

2006-02-17 Thread jrinnebraska
Just a quick aside--I'm a General Class, my wife is an Extra. When we took our tests a few years ago, my wife could have passed the 20wpm, but 5 was the only requirement. (She has a photographic memory and perfect pitch--only needs to hear something once to remember it)[do you think I can get

RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Seperation

2006-02-17 Thread dalite01
Commmshop reports that with these tx and RX freqa, power at 100 Watts, Receiver 12dB Sinad point .2uV : Duplexer or cavity will require 51.9 dB isolation to not degrade RX sensitivity Antennas separated 26 feet vertically of 314 feet horizontally will provide the required isolation. This will

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duol band commercial antennas

2006-02-17 Thread skipp025
Comtelco makes a dual band antennae and you might be able to order special frequency cuts... but the bandwidth might not be enough for ham and commercial operation. skipp > "Steve Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Once needed a combination VHF - 155.22 and UHF 463/468 antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: Code/Ham License Classes

2006-02-17 Thread Nate Duehr
jrinnebraska wrote: > One of the VE's commented that she was to be congratulated for > achieving the "Extra-Lite" class license, since she hadn't gotten the > 20wpm. Ahh... I'm sorry, I just gotta get this out... my story of my run in with an elitist idiot. (Side-note: I've had run ins with

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Code/Ham License Classes

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
I have a question for you Nate, Why is that when a OLD Extra mentions that they passed the 20 WPM exam that everyone who hasn't, passed it jumps on them like they are child molesters? As long as a person passes what ever exam required at the time, they are okay in my book for what ever class l

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Custer
N9WYS wrote: >Well, the last VHF Micor I looked at had the preselector in a different >location... Or maybe it was an "SP" run. > >If so, I stand corrected. > I have never seen a VHF or UHF Micor receiver without the helical preselector attached directly to the board. In the case of the VHF,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT-a special request

2006-02-17 Thread Mark A. Holman
Title: Info please Pager company I know filed chapter 11 later on I was at a BBQ at a TV XMTR Site noted a trailer parked outside the fenced in area, I asked the Engineer whats that ? his reply was Arches paging stuff removed from service.  all due to Motorolas stand of Jettison the FLEX Pagi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Place to by MRFXXX power devices

2006-02-17 Thread Mark A. Holman
Title: Message I never had a problem so far Dave w/ RF Parts shipping well thats UPS ( Brown package Car ) whats odd is that USPO had a package sent thru a package service and noted a big tear in a box, and I lost count of poly bag and a Note of sorry for the tear in the package. ole saying

RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Separation

2006-02-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
A proper answer to your question requires additional information- TX power and RX sensitivity.  If we assume that your TX power is 50 watts and the RX sensitivity is 0.2 uV, then the needed isolation would be around 49 dB.  You can achieve that isolation with two antennas separated vertica

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Synthesizer

2006-02-17 Thread Dr. Ron Johnson
Thanks Mike. That helps. Ron - Original Message - From: "Mike Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Synthesizer > At 06:09 AM 2/17/06, you wrote: > >>I suppose I should brave the cold and go out to the garage and di

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Code/Ham License Classes

2006-02-17 Thread Nate Duehr
I don't intend to continue this thread too much longer, since it's going quite off-topic, but just to clear up what appears to be a misunderstanding Coy... Coy Hilton wrote: > I have a question for you Nate, Why is that when a OLD Extra > mentions that they passed the 20 WPM exam that everyone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] old mobile telephone systems

2006-02-17 Thread Mark A. Holman
probably in South America according some 1995 info. I would have to contact my telcom rebuilder BTW any gondola lots of old rotarys around ?   I know this is OT but pse reply off list if you do know . mark h. JOHN MACKEY wrote: Is there anywhere that still has old 35/43 MHz, 150 Mhz, or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE DELTA S....SX

2006-02-17 Thread Mark A. Holman
How well are you familiar with Hex Decimal stuff ? I just finnishing this course and I'll be honest that was no peice of cake ! programming the Motorola 68HC11 is the course but if you could find programming software great. m. Coy Hilton wrote: OKAY you Delta guys, I picked up a couple r

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread numberone5call
As the VEC for the local ARRL affiliated VE team. All we are required to grade is the written test of ten questions given to the applicant. You cannot grade someones test by what they have on their copy sheet unless the failed the test and your are looking for 1 minute of solid copy. I've had p

Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb as mud

2006-02-17 Thread Mark A. Holman
11 Meter newbies   :-D   just 4 fun  ask them whats the diff between a Deviation and Modulation on the air and how they adjust the controls, I had a newbie said Overmodulated on the repeater he was immediatley put in place. I also use Kirchoff Laws and Thevins Theroem on people who try t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Mark A. Holman
I have talked to a ham he told me some of them went back to 11m.  however I guess their golden screwdriver did not get anywhere. Christopher Zeman wrote: It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3618

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Clarke
You'd be surprised how common that is! A corollary to this bit of boneheadedness is "We must be close because you are loud and clear"! Ranks right up there with " for ID" as a peeve. 73 de Tom/W4OKW ---snip--- Message: 25 Date: Fri, 17 Feb

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor Receivers WANTED

2006-02-17 Thread N9WYS
OK - sorry! I guess I should have both: 1- looked closer at what I was seeing and 2) not responded with information I personally hadn't corroborated. I truly stand corrected... But I *thought* I saw the preselector in a different location. Can I put the approach suit away now? :-) Mark - N9

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dave VanHorn
> It IS probably legal per the FCC, but do you think > they'd give you all that time to decipher the dots and > dashes if you went to an FCC office 30 years ago for a > code test? They'd laugh you right out of your chair. The rules were different then, and they don't apply now. However, I have se

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread mch
Actually, that's how I passed my tests (which was in front of the FCC - pre VEC days). I knew the test would be nothing to do with the 'small words', so when they sent "My name is Henry and I'm in Grand Forks, SD. The temperature is 78 degrees and sunny. ..." My paper had the following: Henry Gran

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3615

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Finch
Chris,   I have a 529/530 book, it's just not the correct vintage.  The book I have is the one with 3 helical resonators, all of my radios have 5.  It's close enough to do what I need.  I have everything working on the transmitter and receiver except the number 4 and 5 helical resonator in

OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Stephen Rice
I guess I will have to say something on this subject as it is coming down to the same arguments! Everyone in ham radio has an interest and for some that interest is CW, some it is SSB,FM,RTTY,PACTOR, Building, Operating, contesting, Sat work, Volunteers, and the list goes on and on! Stop beating

OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dave VanHorn
My point in this was the VE team arbitrarily changing the testing standards. We had one here who wouldn't allow farnsworth. The FCC determines what the questions will be, and what is and is not "legal" to pass the test. NOT the VEs. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on t

[Repeater-Builder] antennas for repeater w/o duplexer

2006-02-17 Thread kb1chu
I read with great intrest all the e-mails returned about info for my uniden repeater.I have researched the Repeater-Builder site and found a great deal of info but have an unanswered question. If I was to build four corner reflector antennas for recieve and the same for transmit would the vert

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
I have to side with Joe on this one. Having spent time as an Army communicator in some of the worst $#*!-holes on earth with lives on the line... it is the content of the message that has to be communicated. Not punctuation and grammar. It is not a complex mathematical formulae that you are send

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3618

2006-02-17 Thread Nate Duehr
Tom Clarke wrote: > You'd be surprised how common that is! A corollary to this bit of > boneheadedness is "We must be close because you are loud and clear"! > > Ranks right up there with " for ID" as a peeve. Lately the local crew of newbies has gotten into the habit of doubling so much with e