I have selected hardware, controller, duplexer, antenna, and location.
SERA has provided me with available frequency pairs and a blank application.
What I CAN'T locate any information on is how to obtain a legal callsign for a
individually owned repeater.
Thanks,
Dean
KJ4LII
Dean, you have one: KJ4LII/R.
Discreet repeater callsigns have been gone for decades. The repeater's callsign
these days is typically the owner, another individual designated by the owner
as the licensee, or in some cases a club callsign.
Controllers are often programmed to appends /R to the
How about
KJ4LII? Should work OK.
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, redleg_8 redle...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: redleg_8 redle...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 440 Repeater Project
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 6:16 PM
Actually, the /R is not ALLOWED by FCC rules any longer.
Mike
WM4B
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:20 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 440 Repeater
USC 47 part 97 (FCC amateur service) rule 97.119(c) quoted below:
(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or
by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is
self-assigned,
'R' is assigned by ITU to European and Asiatic Russia.
Mike
WM4B
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:28 AM , Bob M. wrote:
USC 47 part 97 (FCC amateur service) rule 97.119(c) quoted below:
(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign.
Each indicator must be separated from the
I built a paint can 6 meter helical coil duplexer, and also built an 8
stub heliax 6 meter duplexer.
The mechanics don't seem all that complicated, but getting the rejection
and insertion loss you want can take a lot of messing with it.
The heliax was difficult to find. Traded a large tray of
Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote:
Actually, the /R is not ALLOWED by FCC rules any longer.
This is interesting, can you show us where in the rules this is?
§97.119 Station identification.
(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or
by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is
self-assigned, it must be included before, after,
The amp is a UHF PA off a mobile rig, and I needed about
50 feet of RG58U to attenuate the signal from the repeater
into the amp module.
Not good, probably better to bypass (not use) the 15 watt
amplifier and drive the external amp direct from the exciter.
Not a thing wrong with using a
I think the issue was that it's RG-58.
Mike
WM4B
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM , Al Wolfe wrote:
The amp is a UHF PA off a mobile rig, and I needed about 50 feet of
RG58U to attenuate the signal from the repeater into the amp module.
Not good, probably better to bypass (not use) the
The Russian Federation is a member of CEPT (European Conference of Postal and
Telecommunications Administrations) which has reciprocal operating authority
with the US. The CEPT document outlining operating
(http://www.erodocdb.dk/docs/doc98/official/pdf/TR6101.PDF) shows that the call
sign
Ask yourself these questions:
Is the indicator Self-Assigned? (Well, if the FCC didn't give it to
you, it MUST be Self-Assigned.)
Is the prefix assigned to another country?
If you answer yes to both these questions, the it IS specifically stated
in the rules.
We wouldn't be having this
At 5/4/2009 05:54, you wrote:
§97.119 Station identification.
(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by
any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is
self-assigned, it
Seems pretty black-and-white to me (unlike a lot of things in Part
97). Personally, I'm happy to do away with it. It shortens the ID a
bit and eliminates stating the obvious. ID'ing with /R is kinda like
like saying 'This is WM4B for ID' (as opposed to... ?).
I was not aware that some
in the rules this is?
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At 09:37 AM 5/4/2009, you wrote:
Ask yourself these questions:
Ask yourself this *ONE* question.
Is /R the way Russian stations identify themselves?
No? Then it is NOT an ASSIGNED identifier, nor is it an attempt to
confuse or hide identity.
It is, therefore, PERFECTLY LEGAL and APROPRIATE.
mwbese...@cox.net wrote:
'R' is assigned by ITU to European and Asiatic Russia.
Mike
WM4B
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:28 AM , Bob M. wrote:
USC 47 part 97 (FCC amateur service) rule 97.119(c) quoted below:
(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign.
Each
I've got a few myself and they ARE really that good. Easy to adjust, very
stable, solid as a rock. I'm using one as the gimmick capacitor in a Heliax
duplexer. Other than putting my hand near it, nothing seems to make it change
capacitance.
The only odd thing about them is their mounting
Thanks all for your inputs! Quick question: the programming software will go
down to the amateur band no problem? It won't lock you out?
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah...@... wrote:
At 01:40 PM 4/16/2009, ptt_pupil wrote:
Can anyone tell me how you can convert a
I have never had a problem getting either into the ham bands.
- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon May 04 12:16:27 2009
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
I have a few repeater related items FS:
ARR (Advanced Receiver Research) SP220VDG 220MHz GaAs Fet switchable
preamp. In like new condition with paperwork. One minor scratch on the
rear, otherwise appears new. Mounting screw holes and pwr connections
look like they were never used. Tested on my
Hi all,
I am in need of a 19D423249G1 board. I found out this is needed to make the PLL
exciter work on the lower end of the two meter band in the 145 range. This is
the Band-Pass board that plugs in the the GE Master II exciter.
I do NOT want the G2 board. My mistake.
73s
Steve W4SEF
I have a resolution to this issue. I am applying for a club callsign to use on
the repeater. There are several of us that will use it and we just have to go
thru the gyrations of setting up a formal club structure.
Actually, the callsign will be used on one fixed and one portable linked
Nightmare f-ing Hams! story from this weekend:
I went to a site this weekend, and the new Amateur repeater in the new
building the hams are moving into had 200' of 1/2 Andrews hardline on it
that I don't even know how it was operating... it looked like someone
had taken a ballpeen hammer to it at
This is one of those willful fabrications of gray areas that clutter rule
discussions. This is why nobody discusses remote bases in polite company
anymore.
With all due respect, Larry, your ONE QUESTION is a test unrelated to what
the rule says. The rule itself says it applies to the
I know a radio shop that does installs like that. It's been in business for
over 30 years.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:50 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ham installation
I'm in conversation with my O-O Coordinator now. He's digging his
archives for the 'official read' from the FCC, but seems to recall it
being described as being too gray to enforce, as written.
I stand by my initial assessment as the the legality of using /R, but
also understand that it's
Got one like that here too. It ain't just the hams that are amateurs!
Mike
WM4B
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:22 PM , Chuck Kelsey wrote:
I know a radio shop that does installs like that. It's been in
business for over 30 years.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message - From: Nate Duehr
Got one here too! Honestly you should see some of the
professionally installed repeaters with mobile radios screwed to
plywood, wires dangling everywhere, exposed electrical connections,
repeater buildings with rusty metal sheets for siding flapping in
the wind, bent leaning towers (installed
I am trying to hook up a remote base and a temp sensor to a Kendecom Mark 4,
anyone that can be of help will be greatly appreceated. I need all the info and
help I can get.
Thanks, Grady W4GLE..
At 12:17 PM 05/04/09, you wrote:
I am trying to hook up a remote base and a temp sensor to a Kendecom
Mark 4, anyone that can be of help will be greatly appreceated. I
need all the info and help I can get.
Thanks, Grady W4GLE..
What controller is in the Kendecomm now?
The stock one didn't do
On Mon, 4 May 2009, Nate Duehr wrote:
There are GOOD ham radio tenants, and bad ones... that's for sure.
If it were up to me, I'd have made ONE phone call to this guy saying
his repeater was no longer welcome at the site, disconnected it,
changed the door code, and set that mobiles in a
As long as the presentation is good (i.e. good/proper cabling, neatly
organized, etc) it really shouldn't matter whether the lessee is using
mobiles (like I do in my CDR500 [two CDM750s and duplexers in a steel
box] or a full-out purpose-built repeater system (like an MTR2000,
Quantar or whatnot).
Interesting read ,
In this part of the world the regulation regarding cable installs is very
stringent and as one licensed to do such things is a constant source of
amusement for me , just because you have an amateur license does not mean you
have to install like one :)
I know of commercial
At 06:07 AM 05/04/09, you wrote:
The amp is a UHF PA off a mobile rig, and I needed about
50 feet of RG58U to attenuate the signal from the repeater
into the amp module.
Not good, probably better to bypass (not use) the 15 watt
amplifier and drive the external amp direct from the
Mike,
I assume the purpose of the paint can is to act as a Faraday cage? Is it
attached to the common-point ground system or left freestanding?
73,
Mike
WM4B
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent:
On Mon, 4 May 2009 14:57:34 -0500 (CDT), Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us
said:
On Mon, 4 May 2009, Nate Duehr wrote:
There are GOOD ham radio tenants, and bad ones... that's for sure.
If it were up to me, I'd have made ONE phone call to this guy saying
his repeater was no longer welcome at
Does anyone have some cans from a db4030 or db4032 duplxer ?
Just need a couple cans and harness
Thanks!
Chris
Kb0wlf
I have a MVP Power Supply on a small repeater and the voltage is 17 V on
receive. VR1 is bad and not turning on the transistor to regulate it in
receive. The manual does not tell me a usable part number except from GE. Can
anyone give me the zener's voltage value or a suitable replacement?
What is the GE part number?
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Charles Lowery clow...@va.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MVP Power Supply help
I have a MVP Power Supply on a small repeater and the voltage is
knew a radio shop in Sarasota Fl that did that kind of work on a repeater
system on an 640 foot tower 800Mhz.
good job.
- Original Message -
From: Barry
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ham
Sorry I should have included it.
19A115528P6
Thanks
Charles, NM4V
Quoting Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com:
What is the GE part number?
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Charles Lowery clow...@va.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009
New London has the GE part available for $1 ea.
Still looking for a cross.
Chuck
- Original Message -
From: clow...@va.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MVP Power Supply help
Sorry I should have included it.
No luck on a cross. Sorry.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MVP Power Supply help
New London has the GE part available for $1 ea.
Still
If my memory serves me correctly.
The cross reference number is a 1N4736A ZENER DIODE.
73, Geoff, G8DZJ.
The funny/sad thing is I've seen professional installs that are on the same
par as that also. It's hard to believe people get away charging for these type
installs and stay in business. In fact I was at one of my work sites today
installing a PDR3500 as a temporary repeater and saw a similar
This could get real interesting, real fast, since the big difference between
SCRRBA and TASMA band plans is whether the 70cm repeater inputs should be
above or below the outputs. They are opposite polarities!
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Jeff
I have to agree that the first version Mototrbo XPR series repeater looks to
be a set of mobile radios just like the crap ICOM puts out called D-Star.
However, they have the board that upgrades the MTR2000 repeater to make it
TDMA and that is a real repeater. It would be hard to find anything that
Kris,
There's a bit of disinformation in your message. The GR1225 contains a
full-duplex R1225 transceiver, which includes a controller inside the single
chassis. The others are pairs of mobile radios.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
At 01:52 PM 5/4/2009, you wrote:
With all due respect, Larry, your ONE QUESTION is a test unrelated
to what the rule says. The rule itself says it applies to the
additional self-assigned identifier separated by the /, so the
question is the conflict posed by R, not /R. If the / was
included
Thanks Mike. I'll file that trick away for future use!
Mike
WM4B
_
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE:
Larry,
I hear ya, and this is probably what the folks who consider this vague and
unenforceable refer to.
I'm sure we'll be hearing /R for years to come. In fact, before it goes out
of use, I expect to start hearing new Technician-class licensees start asking
on-air, Hey...what's that wierd
Paul,
I've actually HEARD comments about CW ID's (not on any of my systems
thankfully. but up in the ATL area) from several repeater users. Something
about not being able to tell what repeater they're on. (I guess the
frequency isn't a good enough clue.)
Kinda makes me want to take
Eric,
I think you are referring to the differences between northern and southern
California 440 coordination administered by SCRRBA and NARCC. The northern
coordinator is NARCC (Northern Amateur Relay Council of California -
http://www.narcc.org/). Northern CA is low output and southern CA
LOL...this is the real point of APRS. We need to display callsigns on the front
of the user's radio!
You know, like D-Star, only analog...
- Original Message -
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B)
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:47 PM
Subject: RE:
There was one nationwide (minus the polarity) until NARCC changed...
Joe M.
wa6vpl wrote:
Eric,
I think you are referring to the differences between northern and
southern California 440 coordination administered by SCRRBA and NARCC.
The northern coordinator is NARCC (Northern
Totally agree with Nate, Hams can talk great distances using the least
expensive means. and have seen my fair share of ham and commercial installsm
usally revolves making the sale at any cost. this is the 2-way radio industry
everyone is cutting everyones prices.
Personally hams should be the
Oops! You're absolutely correct. Must be that continuous loss of brain
cells that teetotalers keep warning me about...
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wa6vpl
Sent: Monday, May 04,
Hi all
I am having a problem with my repeater. It is a MSF5000 440 UHF 110W. I was
told that it might have crystal hairs in the TX duplexer. People are telling me
that I need to disassemble the duplexer and clean it with a toothbrush to get
the crystals out and use a nolock on the adjustment
At 5/4/2009 17:46, you wrote:
This could get real interesting, real fast, since the big difference between
SCRRBA and TASMA band plans is whether the 70cm repeater inputs should be
above or below the outputs. They are opposite polarities!
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
TASMA has a 70 cm bandplan?
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