Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-21 Thread william pimble
Hi Paul Just one of the many lurkers here. In the Washington DC area The Green Mountain Repeater Association has 2 repeater the the club calls W3GMR and K3GMR look them up and you will see the assigned trustees. Bill N3JBX Paul Plack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there any r

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-20 Thread Paul Finch
er@yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? Paul, How would that make the paper repeaters disappear? Also, I doubt if you could get any professional person to do that job for the dues collected. Paul _

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-20 Thread Paul Plack
]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? > Yes, we must humor the coordinators if we desire becoming coordinated. > The system used in some states is kinda behind the times compared to > others. And from what I have heard, in some a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-20 Thread Wayne
Yes, we must humor the coordinators if we desire becoming coordinated. The system used in some states is kinda behind the times compared to others. And from what I have heard, in some areas it is almost impossible to get coordinated. Some insist that you "must" join their group to even ge

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
el Ron & Paul's idea is a good one! -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 19 May 2008 07:19:33 PM PDT From: "Mike Mullarkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? > Well all of us commercial system operators have to deal with t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Nate Duehr
Paul Plack wrote: >  > You're probably right on the money part. > > In my admittedly limited experience, (four states, three different > coordinators,) one of the perks of being elected to some coordinating > bodies seems to be grabbing available pairs out of turn when they open > and/or pu

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Plack
m. If the coordinator wasn't a ham, that couldn't happen. Now, if the coordinator's brother-in-law was a ham...still might. - Original Message - From: Paul Finch To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread MCH
om > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2008 6:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? > > Joe, > > I know of some Hams who have talked to Riley about setting up standards > for coordinator

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread MCH
ich the term has >>> not had any meaning to the FCC since the "WR" callsigns went >>> away. As long as we use the terms the FCC expects in any official >>> communication with the agency itself, I guess it doesn't hurt to >>> humor the coordinato

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Finch
:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?  You know, Ron, you just gave me an inspiration. What if the coordinators themselves were not hams, and not eligible to operate ham repeaters? Imagine how many "paper repeaters" and how much

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Mullarkey
half Of Paul Plack Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?  You know, Ron, you just gave me an inspiration. What if the coordinators themselves were not hams, and not eligible to operate ham repeaters? Imagine ho

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Plack
rs instead of hams, and pay them out of the dues. Hmmm... 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Ron Wright To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? Joe, I know of some Hams who have talke

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Ron Wright
> >> 73, >> Paul, AE4KR >> >> - Original Message - From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? >> >> >>> There are quite a f

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread MCH
ng, though. > > 73, > Paul, AE4KR > > - Original Message - > From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? > > >> There are quite a few repeaters usin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Plack
l communication with the agency itself, I guess it doesn't hurt to humor the coordinators. Sure does make things confusing, though. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Repea

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-18 Thread Wayne
There are quite a few repeaters using club call signs rather than an individuals call sign. I used our club call sign on my first repeater, and am using my own on my repeater here. According to the application for coordination here in Texas, I will be the trustee of the repeater. Howe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
ith the FCC or try to interpret the regs with > undefined or incorrect vocabulary, misunderstandings arise. > > ("Remote base" comes to mind.) > > 73, > Paul, AE4KR > > - Original Message - > *From: *_MCH_ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mail

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-17 Thread Ron Wright
nal Message - From: MCH <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:24 PM <mailto:Repeater-Builder@ya

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
; > - Original Message - > *From:* MCH <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2008 8:24 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread Paul Plack
("Remote base" comes to mind.) 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? A licensee is a person who is authorized to do something. A trust

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread MCH
How could they stop it when they are still issuing vanity club calls (which a local club just got one of within the last month or so)? BTW, all licenses have trustees. All repeaters have trustees. All coordinations have trustees. When the time comes there is no trustee for any one of these, the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread MCH
A licensee is a person who is authorized to do something. A trustee is a person *entrusted* with something. (That's the legal definition of a trustee) That something could be a repeater or a coordination or a license, or any combination of these. In the case of my repeaters, I'm trustee of all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread Nate Duehr
Paul Plack wrote: > Are there any repeaters left using club callsigns? If so, those would be > the only repeaters which still have trustees. Lots of them Paul, on purpose even. Look up W0CRA or W0CDS. W0CRA = Colorado Repeater Association W0CDS = Colorado D-STAR Association In the former, it'

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread Ron Wright
ECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:13 PM <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]c

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Plack
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? Paul, I would think it would more correct to say the call on a repeater or other station is not necessarily the trustee. My call is on my repeater and I am also the trustee. 73, ron, n9ee/r

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Ron Wright
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:04AM <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Jim Brown
ould be the only repeaters which still > have trustees. > > Paul, AE4KR > > - Original Message - > From: Ron Wright > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coord

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread MCH
Every repeater has a trustee just like every license has a trustee. It may not be the same person, but often times it is. My local coordination entity requires that *IF* the trustee of the coordination is a club, the trustee is the trustee for the FCC license. Now, can we get off the semantics

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Bob M.
> - Original Message ----- > From: Ron Wright > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? > > > > > Huh? ALL repeaters MUST have a license > trustee!!! What ever ca

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Plack
trustee for it. Are there any repeaters left using club callsigns? If so, those would be the only repeaters which still have trustees. Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Ron Wright To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Smith
Awesome Font size Ron! -Steve - Original Message - From: Ron Wright To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination? I'm not sure the callsign of the repeater is the trustee. I as a trustee of m

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Ron Wright
Huh? ALL repeaters MUST have a license trustee!!! What ever callsign it ID's with is the trustee, whether club or not. I agree each license has a trustee and only a person can be a trustee. A club can own I guess one can say a callsign and a designated officer of the club can desingate the t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread wd8chl
Ron Wright wrote: > > I'm not sure the callsign of the repeater is the trustee. I as a > trustee of my ham station can have another ham use my station using > their callsign. If operating outside their license, but within mine > they must include my call with theirs, but if repeater is operat

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Ron Wright
I'm not sure the callsign of the repeater is the trustee. I as a trustee of my ham station can have another ham use my station using their callsign. If operating outside their license, but within mine they must include my call with theirs, but if repeater is operating within say a Tech's li

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread Bob M.
According to 47CFR97, a trustee is the licensed person of record for club stations. Repeaters can be operated by any class license (valid for the frequency, of course). While the person who's callsign is on the repeater's ID could be considered a trustee, there's no requirement for that title as f

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread wd8chl
Bob M. wrote: > Regarding trustees: club stations certainly need one. > I think it's just customary even for privately owned > repeaters to have trustees, even if it's in name only, > and it could certainly be the station owner, but it > doesn't have to be. A repeater could be owned by a > novice

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread Ron Wright
Depends on the repeater coordinator(s). Most as long as the repeaeter stats (freq, location, height, power) do not change they care less whose call is on the repeater or who owns it. Some do not allow coordination to be transferred, same repeater, but different owner must be recoordinator,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread Bob M.
Trustee issues aside, if the repeater moved, then it should be re-coordinated. But again, it depends on your area's coordination guidelines. Some are real sticklers; others don't care what you do. Regarding trustees: club stations certainly need one. I think it's just customary even for privately

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread MCH
Depends on the coordinator's policies. Joe M. w2drh wrote: > I think I must be confused. I was under the misapprehension that if > one modified the physical location (moved the repeater), had their > license expire, moved out of the area (where direct control of the > repeater was not possible),

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread Dave
How can there be a trustee for a privately owned repeater? I understand the necessity for a group owned or club owned unit. When it is coordinated under a single ham as owner, his call has expired, and it is not even at the listed site, I would think that presents a problem. Am I wrong? Bob

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread Bob M.
It probably varies according to the guidelines of the coordinating group in the repeater's coverage area. Certainly if the footprint changes (emitter moves, changes power, antenna, feedline, height, antenna type, etc) you will probably need to resubmit paperwork to that effect. In some areas, repe

[Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread w2drh
I think I must be confused. I was under the misapprehension that if one modified the physical location (moved the repeater), had their license expire, moved out of the area (where direct control of the repeater was not possible), or modified the system, that the coordination would be canceled or n

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coordination Thread (Please Read- Do Not Reply)

2007-01-26 Thread DaveH
THANK YOU KEVIN! - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater Builder Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coordination Thread (Please Read- Do Not Reply) Recently, I asked you folks that are participating in the now lengthy

[Repeater-Builder] Coordination Thread (Please Read- Do Not Reply)

2007-01-25 Thread Kevin Custer
: Repeater-Builder Coordination http://groups.yahoo.com/group/repeater-builder-coordination/ Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DO NOT reply to this message on the list. Personal Mail always welcomed. Regards, Kevin Custer List Owner

[Repeater-Builder] Coordination Group

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Finch
Kevin and Group, My apologizes, I saw your email requesting this thread to stop but I saw this as a need for all Hams. I am a 440 Coordinator in Texas, I set up a group for the discussion of these problems. Please read the requirements and rules below, if you can't live with them please don't jo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination question for the seasoned owners

2007-01-19 Thread mch
Does your coordinator have the access info to try it for themselves? What are they basing the decoordination on? Not on the air? Joe M. Coy Hilton wrote: > > HI Gang > I have had one of my 2 meter repeaters coordinated as a closed > repeater for at least two years. Three times last year I was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination question for the seasoned owners

2007-01-19 Thread Jay Urish
In congested areas this is going to be a fact of life. All your coordinator wants probably is a quick on air demo. Is the guy local? He should already know the PL tones etc. Coy Hilton wrote: > > > HI Gang > I have had one of my 2 meter repeaters coordinated as a closed > repeater for at leas

[Repeater-Builder] coordination question for the seasoned owners

2007-01-19 Thread Coy Hilton
HI Gang I have had one of my 2 meter repeaters coordinated as a closed repeater for at least two years. Three times last year I was sent a email asking if the repeater was on the air and three times I answered "yes" each time. I had even had a on going discussion about having multiple transmi

[Repeater-Builder] Coordination Discussion

2006-01-28 Thread Kevin Custer
Folks, Please move the Coordination Discussion to the new forum designed for such topics: http://repeatercoordination.org/ Thanks... Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from thi

[Repeater-Builder] coordination blues

2006-01-27 Thread Jay Urish
Sounds like something the TXVHFFM Society would do... They don't even want to share data with the other coordinating body in TX. TGundo 2003 wrote: > This is from the March 2005 MIARC newsletter (I have *** the names to > protect the innocent) available for public viewing on their website: >