Hi Eddy,
NetBeans 5.0 RC1 was released yesterday with further improvements and
bug fixes, namely the ability to deploy/consume web services without the
Sun Application Server container and support for additional application
servers. So, it will be silly to give up on this great IDE. Besides,
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Actually I have a question about RIFE and NetBeans. How do you set a
project up so that the libraries it has have their sources linked to
it? Also, how do you link to
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
[snip]
I don't think it does. But it makes sense as free-from Ant projects will
come in a gazillion shapes, and there is no way NetBeans will be able to
tackle all of those.
Try
Ok, thanks, I'll keep that in mind when I play with it again.
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Actually I have a question about RIFE and NetBeans. How do you set a
project up so that
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 15:06 +, Eddy Young wrote:
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
[snip]
I don't think it does. But it makes sense as free-from Ant projects will
come in a gazillion shapes, and there is no
Hey all, I have been talking to Geert about an Eclipse Plugin for Rife. He seems interested in beginning development on it and wanted someone to get it started. I would like to fill these shoes and have a track proven record to do so. I have written a plugin that will probably perform similarly to
Eddy, This will definately be a joint effort involving many Rife developers/users. We should definately start brainstorming on things like the proposed file locations and such. We should all get on IRC at the same time or something. Just let me know when to be there and I'll make it so.
Take
Geert, Cool. I like this a lot. My plugin will probably only provide the mechanism to configure Rife instances, start/stop them and debugging the Rife applications. Once I learn a little more of what could be visualized, we could also visualize each instance's Rife components as well like I do
Thanks to Jeremy for making the offer. I don't see any objection to him
project managing this given his track record.
Regarding development of RIFE plugins, I think it should be a concerted
effort among the developers who take up the tasks. This would ensure the
plugins are consistent across
Geert posted a sort of roadmap here
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins; i think it's a good
place to start... like Geert, I'm prepared to put effort into this if
we can get it started.
-- eokyere
On 1/13/06, Jeremy Whitlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
I have been talking
Cool. I like this a lot. My plugin will probably only provide the
mechanism to configure Rife instances, start/stop them and debugging the
Hmm actually the starting and stopping of web applications is not
RIFE-related. It is the servlet container that is responsible for that.
How do
i don't think fixed file locations should be our major concern...
probably, we should think about what preferences we can add in to
allow people more flexibility with the system;
-- eokyere
On 1/13/06, Emmanuel Okyere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wowz... tons of reponses already... lol
On
i don't think fixed file locations should be our major concern...
probably, we should think about what preferences we can add in to
allow people more flexibility with the system;
Of course it's not the major concern, I was just warning to not go that
road. There's no reason why the plugin
Hi,
What I have been dreaming of since several years is to be able to
visually see the site structure and to be able to set breakpoints
and watch expressions visually on a running application. Like that
you can visually trace what is going on exactly and clearly follow
the data and logic
What I have been dreaming of since several years is to be able to
visually see the site structure and to be able to set breakpoints and
watch expressions visually on a running application. Like that you can
visually trace what is going on exactly and clearly follow the data
and logic flow.
Wow...a lot of stuff going on. Here are my comments:Geert, While the starting/starting of Rife isn't really a function of Rife, we will want to be able to start/stop and embedded container, like Jetty/Tomcat, to allow us to control the Rife environment. (This would also allow for us to debug Rife
Hi Jeremy,
thanks a lot for stepping up to jumpstart this effort.
We already started discussion possible features before the new-year and
put some things on the wiki here:
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins
I'm most interested in the first stage: facilitate regular coding. I
If you read Geert's latest blog entry
(http://rifers.org/blogs/gbevin/2006/1/13/visual_rife_eclipse_plugin)
you'll notice that Oliver has been working on a plugin as well... Would
yours integrate his functionality or would it already have the features
he's talking about?
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at
I just want to mention JHighlight, which we could use for syntax
highlighting of RIFE templates. It uses JFlex as a lexer and has full
support for creating syntax highlighted HTML files:
https://jhighlight.dev.java.net/
We can reuse the lexers and other parts if required for the plugin.
--
Geert, Sounds good. I do have to say porting my plugin to Rife would be quick but I don't mind doing that later. We can follow your model and based on user/developer needs, we'll make changes accordingly. To provide what you are looking for, we basically should do the following in Eclipse-speak:
Yes, but IIRC it also uses JFlex for the lexers. This means that the
lexers of JHighlight can be reused.
Jeremy Whitlock wrote:
Geert,
Wouldn't we just hook into the Eclipse syntax highlighter and
extend it for the Rife Eclipse types?
Take care,
Jeremy
On 1/13/06, * Geert Bevin*
Geert, Cool.Take care,JeremyOn 1/13/06, Geert Bevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but IIRC it also uses JFlex for the lexers. This means that thelexers of JHighlight can be reused.Jeremy Whitlock wrote: Geert,Wouldn't we just hook into the Eclipse syntax highlighter and
extend it for the Rife
Hi Eddy,
those lexers would be for RIFE-specific highlighting of template tags
for instance, like the yellow you see here:
http://rifers.org/03_numberguess/src/templates/guess.html.html
I have this setup in X-develop with a plugin since several months and I
really find it very helpful.
The
To both Geert and Eddy:Geert, That is exactly what I was thinking. The plugin would be a lot like Jumpstart in it's packaging and stuff and would allow for download and learn/develop capabilities. We could then either build upon this plugin to create our Rife IDE or we could have multiple plugins
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hi Eddy,
those lexers would be for RIFE-specific highlighting of template tags
for instance, like the yellow you see here:
http://rifers.org/03_numberguess/src/templates/guess.html.html
I have this setup in X-develop with a plugin since several months and I
really find it
Jeremy Whitlock wrote:
Eddy,
Eclipse provides that as well. What I mean by templates is to be
able to go to File New and see Rife stuff there that would create
template Rife applications ready for hacking for their business need.
We then would integrate into the content assist to
Hmmm... True, seems very useful. I will try to replicate this in
NetBeans as I'm pretty sure I saw a tutorial on how to define new syntax
highlighting rules.
I glanced over the NetBeans docs to do that once I think. It doesn't
seem to be hard indeed, if I recall correctly.
Mind you, I am
Hey all, Ideally, it would be nice to have a plugin structure that would be easily ported to the other main Java IDEs. (NetBeans and IntelliJ) Obviously things would change slightly and this might be a huge task but I think that this should be the approach. Obviously we would need developers that
Geert, Earlier this approach of my plugin was referred to as Jumpstart For Eclipse. That made me think and really, we have two options here:1) Port my plugin to Rife allowing for users to configure the plugin to manage multiple Rife instances.
2) Create a Server Launch Configuration like Web Tools
Yes, we are talking about the same thing. As I'm saying, if the IDE
already provides features to ease RIFE development that much, why
re-invent the wheel?
Eddy, I don't think we are re-inventing the wheel here, just adding to
what is already available to make it 'more easier' to move from
Well said!
On 13-jan-06, at 21:34, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
Yes, we are talking about the same thing. As I'm saying, if the IDE
already provides features to ease RIFE development that much, why
re-invent the wheel?
Eddy, I don't think we are re-inventing the wheel here, just adding to
what is
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