[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
After some trial and error, I came across http://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 that describes a process of building gfortran using Xcode gcc-4.2 (available since Xcode release 3.1.1, at least --- current is Xcode 3.1.4 released Sept 2009). This will work on both PPC and Intel Macs running at

Re: [sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 09/10/10 07:36 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: So yes, it seems that g95 can be dropped this way, but this is a considerable amount of work. Dima, I would not waste any time on this - the gains do not warrant much work. The amount of work would decrease if we drop MacOSX 10.4 from the list

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: After some trial and error, I came acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 I mentioned this link in one of my (many) posts on this thread - sorry if I didn't highlight it more. that describes a process of building gfortran

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sep 10, 8:53 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: After some trial and error, I came acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 I mentioned this link in one of my (many) posts on this thread - sorry if I didn't

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Dave, On Sep 10, 6:48 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 09/10/10 07:36 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: So yes, it seems that g95 can be dropped this way, but this is a considerable amount of work. Dima, I would not waste any time on this - the gains do not warrant much

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 10, 9:34 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 8:53 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: After some trial and error, I came acrosshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42 I mentioned this link in

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
But, as I said, gfortran integrated with Xcode's gcc is available athttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42, so there is really no point in having g95 in Sage at all! Right, *if* it's easy to get this to play along with existing Xcode installations. If Sage can somehow detect this situation

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sep 10, 10:38 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 9:34 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 8:53 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 2:36 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: After some trial and error, I came

Re: [sage-devel] New PARI needs testing

2010-09-10 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Sep 7, 2010, at 03:09 , Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Hello sage-devel, As far as we know, there are no more remaining issues for the PARI update (#9343). We haven't had any doctest failures for a while now. The main issues recently have been with PARI not compiling properly on various machines,

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp://r.research.att.com/tools/gcc-4.2-5566-darwin8-all.tar.gz which will do the installation of 10.4u, whatever this means, Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, Apple's SDK with gcc42 and gfortran42. So yes, it's the missing gcc42 for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Sep 10, 2010, at 10:31 AM, kcrisman wrote: Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp:// r.research.att.com/tools/gcc-4.2-5566-darwin8-all.tar.gz which will do the installation of 10.4u, whatever this means, Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, I'll guess: 10.4

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread Tom Boothby
The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma for example, which is also an interpreted language, and this is the main reason that Magma is so popular in my research area (and clearly a reason that people

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sep 11, 1:31 am, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp://r.research.att.c... which will do the installation of 10.4u, whatever this means, Yeah, I'm not sure what this is either, Apple's SDK with gcc42 and gfortran42. So yes, it's

[sage-devel] Re: g95 - can we simply forget it exists?

2010-09-10 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 10, 2:31 pm, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 11, 1:31 am, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Buthttp://r.research.att.com/tools/#gcc42provideshttp://r.research.att.c... which will do the installation of 10.4u, whatever this means, Yeah, I'm not sure what this

[sage-devel] Group cohomology now even on t2 and with full doctest coverage

2010-09-10 Thread Simon King
Dear group theorists and friends of group theorists, we proudly present the new version 2.1 of the modular group cohomology spkg. Now, all classes, methods and functions in the Cython and Python code are covered by tests. Moreover, it builds and tests not only on sage.math and bsd.math (64 and

Re: [sage-devel] Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread William Stein
On Friday, September 10, 2010, Tom Boothby tomas.boot...@gmail.com wrote: The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma for example, which is also an interpreted language, and this is the main reason that

[sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread dmharvey
On Sep 10, 7:46 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, September 10, 2010, Tom Boothby tomas.boot...@gmail.com wrote: The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, even in the Sage interpreter. All of these things are fast in Magma for example, which is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:04 PM, dmharvey dmhar...@cims.nyu.edu wrote: On Sep 10, 7:46 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, September 10, 2010, Tom Boothby tomas.boot...@gmail.com wrote: The examples of slow things I gave are things that should be fast, even in the Sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How are mirrors chosen for sage -upgrade ?

2010-09-10 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 8, 1:03 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: If the ping time to boxen.math.washington.edu is an order of magnitude less than any other mirror ... I've coded this and back then I thought

[sage-devel] Re: Sage is embarrassingly slow

2010-09-10 Thread dmharvey
On Sep 10, 9:08 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: sage: type(matrix(Integers(3^5), 5, 5))  type 'sage.matrix.matrix_modn_dense.Matrix_modn_dense' sage: type(matrix(Integers(3^20), 5, 5))  type 'sage.matrix.matrix_generic_dense.Matrix_generic_dense' That certainly

[sage-devel] Re: How to deal with GAP's machine dependent random generator?

2010-09-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi Simon, On Sep 9, 10:23 pm, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: Hi Dima! On Sep 9, 2:44 pm, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: ... Nobody seems to be willing to review the ticket, however, as if the problem got resolved in a way that escapes me. The problem for my package

Re: [sage-devel] Re: OSX Clickable App

2010-09-10 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 at 10:13AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: It is. I've also been testing this - you should try out the very latest version: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/iandrus/ There are still a few things to work out, but what we need are *TESTERS* to track down dumb bugs (such as one