--- On Wed, 10/6/09, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
> From: Kiran K Karthikeyan
> Subject: Re: [silk] pay up, or stay here
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 11:55 AM
> 2009/6/10 Kiran Jonnalagadda
>
> > Wouldn't this fall foul of bonded labour regulations?
> >
>
--- On Wed, 10/6/09, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
> From: Kiran K Karthikeyan
> Subject: Re: [silk] pay up, or stay here
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 11:55 AM
> 2009/6/10 Kiran Jonnalagadda
>
> > Wouldn't this fall foul of bonded labour regulations?
> >
>
--- On Wed, 10/6/09, Lahar Appaiah wrote:
> From: Lahar Appaiah
> Subject: Re: [silk] pay up, or stay here
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 11:35 AM
> A company would argue in court that
> the employee has special skills /
> knowledge that is needed for a prop
2009/6/10 Kiran Jonnalagadda
> Wouldn't this fall foul of bonded labour regulations?
>
> A friend of mine quit an IT major three months after joining, while still
> in his mandatory training period. His superior said she couldn't record it
> as a resignation. She'd get investigated for that, so s
A company would argue in court that the employee has special skills /
knowledge that is needed for a proper transition, and his breaching the
contract and quitting before 3 months would put the company to severe
detriment. They will also argue that the employee is a graduate who has
understood the
On 10-Jun-09, at 11:09 AM, Lahar Appaiah wrote:
4 Additionally, if they are serious about you staying back the 3
months,
they can get an injunction in court, enforcing the terms of the
contract.
Once a court passes an order requiring you to serve out your notice
period,
you will have to co
Yes, it's enforceable. What a company can do:
1. No relieving letter. (though a 'service certificate' is a requirement
under law).
2. They can terminate you for abandoning work, and can issue a letter
stating that you are terminated. When a background check occurs, they will
state that you have b
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Dr. John Marshall Johnson <
johnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > At a recent meeting in Bangalore on nosocomial infections, one prominent
> > surgeon from St. John's said that in this day and age it is ridiculous
> and
> > unnecessary to take off one's shoes before
I have been following that admirable practice for some time now. A detailed
scrutiny of any mail that might have caused offence would reveal that
irrelevant bits are ruthlessly weeded out, and the remainder helps others
place my message in the appropriate context. If I have been remiss in doing
so
--- On Wed, 10/6/09, Dr. John Marshall Johnson wrote:
> From: Dr. John Marshall Johnson
> Subject: Re: [silk] Indian foodies
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 10:09 AM
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:19 AM, ss
>
> wrote:
> > A lot of anglophone ("Macaulayite") Indi
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:45 PM, divya manian wrote:
> > troubles of living in India. But it amazes me that living in India can
> > be summed up in a slogan: "adjust please".
More so, if you live in Bangalore, my hometown where I was born, bred and
buttered.
"Adjust maadi" is namma bengaluru sl
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:19 AM, ss wrote:
> A lot of anglophone ("Macaulayite") Indians grow up with cultural
confusion. I
> had an alumni newsletter article about that too - but I'll leave that for
another time...
I for one, would like to read it. Do post it
johnson
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:57 AM, ss wrote:
> People still remove their footwear before entering a house in India.
Not everybody, I know of traditional families who were very strict about it,
BUT
one trip to the USA and they are walking with shoes/sandals all over the
house.
In our home, its a stri
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Thaths wrote:
>
>
> Don't you know? Every time .a bush shakes vigorously a baby is made.
If you have read this before, delete.
Two statues in the park suddenly come to life and look at each other with
delighted smiles. "Shall we go behind the bushes and do
On Wednesday 10 Jun 2009 8:15:14 am Venkat Mangudi wrote:
> But seriously, what does kissing have to do with our nation being a
> billion strong? If memory serves me right, adding to the population can
> be easily accomplished without kissing. ;-)
Are you talking about the difference between love
--- On Wed, 10/6/09, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:
> From: Abhijit Menon-Sen
> Subject: [silk] pay up, or stay here
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009, 8:23 AM
> Are employment contracts with "if you
> leave, you have to give three
> months' notice or _pay us three mo
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Kiran K
Karthikeyan wrote:
> When I moved to the US after 6th standard, Sex Ed was a total revelation.
> Till then I had loosely associated babies to kissing and any one or a
> combination of the sun shining/birds chirping/dew falling off plants/plants
> swaying in t
2009/6/10 Venkat Mangudi
> But seriously, what does kissing have to do with our nation being a
> billion strong? If memory serves me right, adding to the population can
> be easily accomplished without kissing. ;-)
Though I'm sure its not the case here, an Indian exposed only to mainstream
Indi
Are employment contracts with "if you leave, you have to give three
months' notice or _pay us three months' salary_" clauses enforceable
in India? Or is it just intimidation?
-- ams, just curious.
Deepa Mohan wrote:
> Yeah, right, that's why we are a nation of a billion people! Probably one
But seriously, what does kissing have to do with our nation being a
billion strong? If memory serves me right, adding to the population can
be easily accomplished without kissing. ;-)
Venkat
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Kiran K
Karthikeyan wrote:
> 2009/6/10 Thaths
>> And the same goes to you too Lahar Appiah. Please do take the time to
>> trim your quotes in replies.
> I believe it is Appaiah. Appiah has some very nasty connotations/meanings I
> believe in most South Indian langua
2009/6/10 Thaths
> And the same goes to you too Lahar Appiah. Please do take the time to
> trim your quotes in replies.
I believe it is Appaiah. Appiah has some very nasty connotations/meanings I
believe in most South Indian languages and most definitely in Malayalam.
Kiran
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> Radhika,
>
> Could you please avoid top-posting and trim your replies?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting#Choosing_the_proper_posting_style
>
> Leaving the entire messsage below to make my point (you may have to
> choose "show quote
Radhika,
Could you please avoid top-posting and trim your replies?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting#Choosing_the_proper_posting_style
Leaving the entire messsage below to make my point (you may have to
choose "show quoted parts" in gmail to view it.
Udhay
Radhika, Y. wrote, [on 6/10/20
actully the middle initial makes it even more philosophical a question: Y.R.
Radhika! imagine the commotion it causes when i arrive in YVR (vancouver
airport!)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Radhika, Y. wrote:
>
> > i am an air force kid an
2009/6/8 ss
> A bit old - but nothing wakes me up like Pakistan
>
> http://www.pseb.org.pk/bulletin/spet2006/bulletin_details.htm
>
> Pakistan Software Export Board Bulletin
>
> I quote only the parts to cause heartburn...
Pakistani media is good fun. I turn to them for a good laugh now and th
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Radhika, Y. wrote:
> i am an air force kid and my name has stubbornly remained Yeddanapudi
> Radhika where Yeddanapudi is the village we hail from;-)
Just could NOT resist saying, I was wondering, Y Radhika! :
Deepa.
i am an air force kid and my name has stubbornly remained Yeddanapudi
Radhika where Yeddanapudi is the village we hail from;-)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Lahar Appaiah wrote:
> There have been tons of Appaiahs at Cottons, but none are related (to the
> best of my knowledge :-). Appaiah, th
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote:
> I figured the only way to remain sane was by joining the mainstream and
> leading an unhurried life.
>
> If this puts me in the category of those people who are mysteriously of
> lower productivity when in India, so be it. The price of add
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
>
>
>
> A friend recently asked me if belief in 'jhoota'/'yechal' meant that a
> person couldn't kiss another!
>
>
Yeah, right, that's why we are a nation of a billion people! Probably one
of our national songs would be "Jhoot oonchA rahEy ham
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
> Radhika, Y. wrote:
> > not tamil.
>
> Right. It is madras bhashai. I used to always hear it being referred to
> as "edathu" kai.
>
> Venkat
>
> I grew up in Calcutta/Kolkata...but perhaps I heard these terms (shOtthu
kai, peecha kai) from my
Udhay wrote:
Am I making sense?
Yes, but perhaps not the *same* sense to all of us.
I may have a somewhat different perspective on this, being an relatively
untraveled American. My meatspace experience has never introduced me to
a Udhay, a Madhu, or a Bonobashi. From here, I can't tell if a
There have been tons of Appaiahs at Cottons, but none are related (to the
best of my knowledge :-). Appaiah, though (like all other Coorg names) is a
given name, and not a surname. The 'traditional' Coorg naming system is AB
Name, where A is the 'Family' name, B is your dad's name, and Name is the
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Lahar Appaiah wrote:
> There have been a few left handed 'South Indian" cricketers, such as WV
> Raman, Venkatapathi Raju, etc, but not enough to make an impact. Islam, on
> the other hand, has produced a clutch of talented left-handed cricketers-
> Wasim, Saeed An
I used to have a fairly settled quiz team, but haven't quizzed for months
now, and suspect that I have been kicked out.
Why don't you try the KQA group on Facebook and see if you can get a
partner?
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
> Dear all,
> Would anybody on this list in
On Tuesday 09 Jun 2009 7:54:11 pm . wrote:
> subziwallah or the local bania's
> (shopkeepers?) would be deeply offended if i gave them money with the
> left hand.
Actually it is impolite to do that.
In the UK sniffing was impolite. Blowing your nose loudly was fine.
Stepping over the stretched
On Tuesday 09 Jun 2009 7:54:11 pm . wrote:
> the indian obsession with the right hand
Just for you: In 1999 I wrote an article for my alumni newsletter that I
reproduce here:
Toilet thoughts
When one is young, one takes for granted the experiences that one is
subjected to, and accepts rules
the Great chestnut served up in an Indian avatar.
The west takes its revenge on India for the Panchatantra.
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Subject: Re: [silk] Indian foodies
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 5:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Deepa Mohan wrote:
>
> "Chee, chee, peecha kaiyAle kudukkAthEy..."
>
> The left hand IS the Peecha Kai.
i am hearing this for the first time
--
.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Deepa Mohan wrote:
>
>
> This is one of the few practices for which I have found a logical and valid
> reason.
the indian obsession with the right hand is not restricted to just
food. on numerous ocassions the subziwallah or the local bania's
(shopkeepers?) would be
"Crazy Crazy Nights" is an excellent song, and is a particular favorite of
mine, but it falls rapidly downhill from there- 2nd best is the disco-ish
and insipid-after-3-minutes "I was born for loving you".
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Kragen Javier Sitaker
wrote:
> > KISS is also an American h
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:41:50PM +0530, Lahar Appaiah wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Pranesh Prakash
> wrote:
> > A friend recently asked me if belief in 'jhoota'/'yechal' meant that a
> > person couldn't kiss another!
>
> This whole kissing thing is a Western concept, and is against
Have you heard the old fable of the priests and the cat?
There was this guru whose hermitage had a pet cat in it. Once, the guru was
praying / performing a sacrifice when the cat, chasing a mouse, ran into and
upset his sacrificial vessels, flowers etc.
So the guru ordered his disciples to tie
Next you'll say kissing has been set in stone in our culture for centuries.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Mahesh Murthy wrote:
> Unless you think what the sculptures at Khajuraho show or the texts of the
> Kama Sutra say are against Indian culture, kissing has been very much a
> part
> of our c
I've always believed that most traditions are rooted either in logic, or in
what was most convenient to the people who set the traditions at that time
(and which would, presumably, have been logical to those people). Obviously,
over time, they've gained the added halo of being an integral part of
'
On Tuesday 09 Jun 2009 4:41:50 pm Lahar Appaiah wrote:
> This whole kissing thing is a Western concept, and is against Indian
> culture. I agree with Pranesh that if someone really believes in our
> traditions, they should not kiss.
While we get rid of kissing, could we also get rid of the "missio
You must be kidding - I tried hard to find some satire in your piece but
couldn't!
Unless you think what the sculptures at Khajuraho show or the texts of the
Kama Sutra say are against Indian culture, kissing has been very much a part
of our culture for millenia.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:41 PM,
> > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:47:36PM -0400, Bruce Metcalf wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Sorry, have to ask what is "jhoota"?
You know, from the Indian standpoint, a chef who puts a ladle/spoon into some
food to lift out some gravy and then sips the gravy and puts the same
ladle/spoon back in the grav
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 16:07, Deepak Misra wrote:
> It is basically understanding what is a good conductor of "yechal" or
> "Ointha" as we call it in Oriya.
> Whatever is fixed is not while what is not fixed is. So plates clearly are
> while kitchen counters are not.
In some orthodox tambram hou
This whole kissing thing is a Western concept, and is against Indian
culture. I agree with Pranesh that if someone really believes in our
traditions, they should not kiss.
To add to that, kisses are also referred to as "x". "X" is also the symbol
for wrong (as opposed to the tick mark, which is the
The modern traditionalists are the sort who also insist that ancient india had
everything from airplanes (pushpaka vimana) to atomic bombs (brahmastra etc etc
- must have got that idea from the cheesy fireworks displays in the Ramayana /
Mahabharata TV soap operas)
> P.S. I hope 'pseudo-science
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
> Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Indrajit Gupta
> wrote:
> >> Jhoota - touched by another, typically by mouth, making it impure for
> consumption by another.
> >
> > The Tamil equivalent is "yechal" i.e saliva - i
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 16:01, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:47:36PM -0400, Bruce Metcalf wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry, have to ask what is "jhoota"? Is that like feng shui for food?
>>
> Food partially eaten by someone else. Or any item in which someone else's
> saliva may be mixed.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 15:21, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
> Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Indrajit Gupta wrote:
>>> Jhoota - touched by another, typically by mouth, making it impure for
>>> consumption by another.
>>
>> The Tamil equivalent is "yechal" i.e saliva - in ver
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:47:36PM -0400, Bruce Metcalf wrote:
>
> Sorry, have to ask what is "jhoota"? Is that like feng shui for food?
>
Food partially eaten by someone else. Or any item in which someone else's
saliva may be mixed.
Devdas Bhagat
Usman Sadozai wrote:
>> > Hi, nice to have another U on the list! Welcome, Usman. (Do
>>> you call an
>>> American a USman?)
>>>
>>> Deepa.
>
> (yes, if he is a USmale). thanks Deepa :-)
Welcome to Silk, Usman. And unlike some "people", you do not top post. I
think we will get along finely, now!
You want your head to spin a lot more .. here's how to do it.
http://bhargavasarma.blogspot.com/2009/04/aachamana-vidhi-its-significance.html
Even your periyaval wouldn’t do it this rigorously I think.
srs
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From: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.n
Radhika, Y. wrote:
> not tamil.
Right. It is madras bhashai. I used to always hear it being referred to
as "edathu" kai.
Venkat
Deepa Mohan wrote:
> For Brahmins (only men of course) , after sitting down at the palm leaf, and
> after the meal has been served up to the rice part (before the sambar) it is
> mandatory to take a palmful of water, take it around the leaf clockwise
> three times with the water dribbling around
Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Indrajit Gupta wrote:
>> Jhoota - touched by another, typically by mouth, making it impure for
>> consumption by another.
>
> The Tamil equivalent is "yechal" i.e saliva - in very traditional
> households it is common to never let the li
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Lahar Appaiah wrote:
> There have been a few left handed 'South Indian" cricketers, such as WV
> Raman, Venkatapathi Raju, etc, but not enough to make an impact. Islam, on
> the other hand, has produced a clutch of talented left-handed cricketers-
> Wasim, Saeed Anwa
> This is one of the few practices for which I have found a logical and
valid
> reason. Since Indians use water and not toilet paper, the left hand is
used
> for such cleaning and hence never used for ingestion.
wouldn't a left-handed kid naturally want to lift the lota/jug with the left
hand? fo
There have been a few left handed 'South Indian" cricketers, such as WV
Raman, Venkatapathi Raju, etc, but not enough to make an impact. Islam, on
the other hand, has produced a clutch of talented left-handed cricketers-
Wasim, Saeed Anwar, Zaheer Khan, etc. Does this mean that left-handed South
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