Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Meera
> > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Sirtaj Singh Kang > To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:09:27 +0530 > Subject: Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls? > > On 10-Apr-11, at 2:39 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta wrote: > >> If women keep aborting, abandoning, and killin

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Aadisht Khanna
On 10-04-2011 10:31, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > On 10-Apr-11 10:21 AM, Aadisht Khanna wrote: > >>> in a situation where *muscle power* is of monotonically decreasing >>> importance to survival, why would the sex ratio be as skewed as it is? >>> >> >> Hysteresis. > > Fair enough (as far as it goes),

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Aadisht Khanna
On 10-04-2011 23:08, Shoba Narayan wrote: > I didn't know the meaning on monotonically and hysteresis and looked them > both up. I think the lag is at the tipping point, isn't it? Might it become > what somebody (Bernhard I think) talked about-- dowry flipping genders? The > future of this sad

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread ss
On Sunday 10 Apr 2011 11:08:12 pm Shoba Narayan wrote: > Shoba Narayan > http://shobanarayan.com/ > Shoba I just read your impassioned piece that was missing from my inbox. You wrote >Economists have long tried to explain the “missing women of Asia”, and you also write about this >In Usilampa

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread ss
On Sunday 10 Apr 2011 11:07:26 pm Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Bah. Try telling your inlaws that you'd much rather your wife stayed > with YOU for 3 months after the delivery .. doesn't work, it gets > classed under "privilege" > > Tough enough to convince them (successfully) to take her along

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Sunday 10 April 2011 03:50 PM, Bernhard Krieger wrote: Udhay, how much of a "financial burden" do you expect your daughter will be when she comes into marriageable age in, say, 15+ years considering the current sex ratio and considering that the topic will be more prominent in the 2020s? A f

[silk] Springcleaning some of my books - free to a good home

2011-04-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
There's a bunch of books (several dozen) I deem surplus to requirement and plan to give them away. I don't claim they are any particular quality - a lot of them are random "read once and throw away" thrillers from the usual authors, but there might be a few other gems there too - nonfiction type s

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Ingrid Srinath
On 10 Apr 2011, at 08:40, "Anish" wrote: >> Having said that, I'm not sure what >demographic she comes from in India; >> she's almost certainly not representative. >AIUI her parents are doctors >> in a small town, so relatively affluent. > > Some states are different from others, Kerala has po

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Shoba Narayan
> On 10-Apr-11 10:21 AM, Aadisht Khanna wrote: > > >> in a situation where *muscle power* is of monotonically decreasing > >> importance to survival, why would the sex ratio be as skewed as it is? > >> > > > > Hysteresis. > > Fair enough (as far as it goes), but the length of lag is a matter o

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Bah. Try telling your inlaws that you'd much rather your wife stayed with YOU for 3 months after the delivery .. doesn't work, it gets classed under "privilege" Tough enough to convince them (successfully) to take her along after the delivery rather than right after the "seemantam" ceremony (8th m

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Radhika, Y.
> > Shiv: Har, Har, Mahadev (my favorite ACK quote;-))!!! > Just a quick note to document how this "culture" cannot be ignored as local tradition. When I was pregnant with Himadri in 2009, I went for a routine ultrasound at 21 weeks that my obstetrician advised due to my "geriatric" age of 41. At

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread ss
On Sunday 10 Apr 2011 2:39:11 pm Stephanie Das Gupta wrote: > Women have proven they can do just as well as men, if not better, in > many levels. Why should we feel that women or girl children are so > insignificant that they can just be tossed away. > Apart from making it a criminal offence to

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Bernhard Krieger
Am 10.04.2011 13:36, schrieb Udhay Shankar N: On 10-Apr-11 3:50 PM, Bernhard Krieger wrote: Udhay, how much of a "financial burden" do you expect your daughter will be when she comes into marriageable age in, say, 15+ years considering the current sex ratio and considering that the topic will

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Anish
>Having said that, I'm not sure what >demographic she comes from in India; >she's almost certainly not representative. >AIUI her parents are doctors >in a small town, so relatively affluent. Some states are different from others, Kerala has population inversion. There is a huge divide across Indi

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 10-Apr-11 5:09 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: > I have a depressing prediction. Over an extended period, the reduced > supply of suitable brides will cause the roles to be reversed and girls > will become a more precious commodity than boys. Until that happens, the > attitude of Indian men towar

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On 10-Apr-11, at 2:39 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta wrote: If women keep aborting, abandoning, and killing their girl children, where will that leave the population? And the boy children who these mothers are so adamant to save, who will take care of them? Who will they marry? Will the men take

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 10-Apr-11 3:50 PM, Bernhard Krieger wrote: > Udhay, how much of a "financial burden" do you expect your daughter will be > when she comes into marriageable age in, say, 15+ years considering the > current sex ratio and considering that the topic will be more prominent in > the 2020s?

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Alaric Snell-Pym
On 04/10/11 07:48, ss wrote: [interesting and depressing things] I suppose the overriding theme here is that unmarried daughters are seen as a strain on family resources. So one solution would be better career prospects for women, right, so they can come home with bundles of cash and thereby mat

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Bernhard Krieger
Am 09.04.2011 14:06, schrieb Udhay Shankar N: Udhay (happy parent of one child, a daughter) Udhay, how much of a "financial burden" do you expect your daughter will be when she comes into marriageable age in, say, 15+ years considering the current sex ratio and considering that the topic will

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta < stephaniewhitin...@gmail.com> wrote: > If women keep aborting, abandoning, and killing their girl children, where > will that leave the population? And the boy children who these mothers are > so adamant to save, who will take care of them? Wh

Re: [silk] Why do we hate our girls?

2011-04-10 Thread Stephanie Das Gupta
On 04/09/2011 05:36 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Shoba says this was a tough piece to write. It was tough to read as well (and not because it was poorly written, I hasten to add). Yes, I agree India needs to save our girls. The future of our boys, and indeed our civilization, depends on it. Til