Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-19 Thread Alan Jones
Thanks for the detailed response. I'm already on the Yahoo forum so if/when I get results I'll share them there. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Mike Monett wrote: > > > Alan, it is true that solder has a higher resistance than copper or silver. > > However, a good solder joint has much lower re

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Monett
Alan Jones wrote: > >Crimping requires a lot less skill than soldering, that was my point. I'm >not an electrical engineer but I've always used crimping for my speaker >building and car stereo projects. I've never experienced breakage of wire >strands, and have found crimped connections to be mu

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-19 Thread Alan Jones
Just a quick addendum, I'm not going to have the answers you need, I suggest a Google of "compare solder crimp" (without quotes) for more authoritative views on the subject. Alan On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Alan Jones wrote: > Crimping requires a lot less skill than soldering, that was my

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-19 Thread Alan Jones
Crimping requires a lot less skill than soldering, that was my point. I'm not an electrical engineer but I've always used crimping for my speaker building and car stereo projects. I've never experienced breakage of wire strands, and have found crimped connections to be much more reliable than my

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Monett
Alan Jones wrote: > >Hey Mike, does the design allow wire crimping instead of soldering? I think >the idea of soldering might turn away many potential users, but wire >crimping is simple, cheap and reliable. > >Alan > >On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Mike Monett wrote: > >> There are only three

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-19 Thread Alan Jones
Hey Mike, does the design allow wire crimping instead of soldering? I think the idea of soldering might turn away many potential users, but wire crimping is simple, cheap and reliable. Alan On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Mike Monett wrote: > > > There are only three solder joints, so pretty m

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net wrote: > > This sounds intriguing Mike. I can't wait to see the plans. > Hopefully someone that is not too knowledgeable in chemistry or > electrical engineering will be able to follow them and build their > own. Hi Anthony, Today I finally received

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread anthony . aquifer
ett" Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:27:34 To: Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Desulfurizing "PTFerrance" wrote: > Mike wrote, " I have had all these, and a low silver ion > concentration had little or no effect. But as soon as I was a

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
"PTFerrance" wrote: > Mike wrote, " I have had all these, and a low silver ion > concentration had little or no effect. But as soon as I was able > to learn how to dramatically increase the concentration, the > healing was immediate." > So you are basing all this on

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
Neville Munn wrote: > >Guess I better get in quick then . > >One would like to think that praps you could do one the courtesy of shedding >some light on those few points I raised earlier before you dissappear? > >All in the interest of furthering my knowledge, by those who appear to have >the kn

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Monett
Marshall wrote: > >On 9/15/2011 11:56 PM, Mike Monett wrote: >>Marshall, I would really like for you to do the thermal >>decomposition experiment for silver hydroxide. It is one of the >>easiest of all to perform, since it occurs at such a low temperature >>- bare

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-16 Thread Marshall
On 9/15/2011 11:56 PM, Mike Monett wrote: Marshall, I would really like for you to do the thermal decomposition experiment for silver hydroxide. It is one of the easiest of all to perform, since it occurs at such a low temperature - barely enough to cook hamburger, i

RE: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-16 Thread PTFerrance
From: Mike Monett [mailto:armor@gishpuppy.com] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Desulfurizing Marshall wrote: > So you are right, and every reference I can find is wrong. I guess > that is possible, but I have a hard time b

RE: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-15 Thread Neville Munn
intended. N. > From: armor@gishpuppy.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Desulfurizing > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:56:39 -0400 > > I will be wrapping things > up here very soon and moving over to the new forum. > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > SilverCentral >

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Monett
Marshall wrote: > So you are right, and every reference I can find is wrong. I guess > that is possible, but I have a hard time believing it. Here are > some more: >http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF >solubility = 13.3 ppm >http://www.vias.org/genchem

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-15 Thread Marshall
So you are right, and every reference I can find is wrong. I guess that is possible, but I have a hard time believing it. Here are some more: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF solubility = 13.3 ppm http://www.vias.org/genchem/solubility_product_table.html silver hy

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Sure And how long does it take for silver to visibly tarnish if left exposed to the air? Months How long would it take for enough environmental Sulphur to dissolve into a capped jug of distilled water to make any difference? Uh...won't happen, it's capped. Uncapped, try a few years. Od

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Fundamental question. Where is the *sulphur* coming from that makes the silver "tarnish" to start with ? AgOH [Silver Hydroxide] isn't black..it's whitish to tan. [look it up] AgO is formed when oxygen encounters a silver ion...and it is yellowish, to brown, to black depending on how dense

RE: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-14 Thread Neville Munn
[The current silver ion generators do not produce > a high enough concentration to be useful in fighting them.] # I'm not going to buy into any arguement with you lot, but this sounds a tad absurd to me. Popular opinion from all and sundry in the public domain implies home made LVDC generato

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Monett
Marshall wrote: >On 9/14/2011 9:42 PM, Mike Monett wrote >> 7. The black stuff that forms on the electrodes is silver >> hydroxide, AgOH, not silver oxide, Ag2O. >> Your statement is incorrect. >> You cannot produce silver Oxide, Ag2O, by using electrolysis. > As I point

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-14 Thread Marshall
On 9/14/2011 9:42 PM, Mike Monett wrote 7. The black stuff that forms on the electrodes is silver hydroxide, AgOH, not silver oxide, Ag2O. Your statement is incorrect. You cannot produce silver Oxide, Ag2O, by using electrolysis. As I pointed out before, Silver Hydroxide and Silver

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Monett
Update to complete the reply to my previous post. > Ode Coyote wrote: [...] >> I don't know why sulphur would be a problem unless you live down >> wind of a coal power plant or something and leave your distilled >> water, or electrodes open to the air for a long time. >> The bl

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Monett
Ode Coyote wrote: > You can do the same thing by wrapping the electrodes in foil with > a little salt water or vinegar...any conductive liquid. > What that does is make a battery effect that strips a layer off > the silver by ionization and deposits it on the aluminum. > That's

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-14 Thread Ode Coyote
You can do the same thing by wrapping the electrodes in foil with a little salt water or vinegar...any conductive liquid. What that does is make a battery effect that strips a layer off the silver by ionization and deposits it on the aluminum. That's how the silver bandaids work...the silver

RE: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-13 Thread Neville Munn
Thanks for that Mike. I take your point of course, and rest assured, I do not use rainwater normally, only when I consider it more beneficial or practical to do so for a given *temporary* health related issue. You may be right regarding the contamination and acids removing the ions out of s

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Monett
Asif Nathekar wrote: > Hi Mike, Just to clarify you mentioned that to clean the silver > electrodes, use the voltage from the generator and the aluminium > strip should be the anode or positive and the silver should be on > the cathode or negative. > If I have understood this

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Monett
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Mike, thank you for an interesting and informative post. I was > wondering if putting the electrodes in the sonic cleaner which I > use for my liposomal Vit C would be any good for cleaning them. I > did it once with my old ones but they went a peculi

Re: CS>Desulfurizing [GishPuppy]

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Monett
Neville Munn wrote: > This is the first clear confirmation I've heard regarding the two > distinct types of EIS/CS! - Oils ain't just oils! or EIS/CS ain't > just EIS/CS! > And this is why if I consider a particular health issue needs to > be hit hard and fast, I use rainwater,

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-13 Thread Asif Nathekar
Hi Mike, Just to clarify you mentioned that to clean the silver electrodes, use the voltage from the generator and the aluminium strip should be the anode or positive and the silver should be on the cathode or negative. If I have understood this won't that release the aluminium from the strip?

Re: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-13 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi Mike, thank you for an interesting and informative post. I was wondering if putting the electrodes in the sonic cleaner which I use for my liposomal Vit C would be any good for cleaning them. I did it once with my old ones but they went a peculiar flat colour so I discarded them for the new

RE: CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-12 Thread Neville Munn
several days if necessary. Thank You Mr Monett. N. > From: armor@gishpuppy.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:38:35 -0400 > Subject: CS>Desulfurizing > > To All, > > Many people have commented on the drop in conductance after the brew

CS>Desulfurizing

2011-09-12 Thread Mike Monett
To All, Many people have commented on the drop in conductance after the brew is finished. It can be quite significant, and can reach 40% to 60% of the original strength in the first 48 hours after the cs is put in storage. This can greatly reduce the effectiveness of the cs, especially when t