Re: [SLUG] Re: language jihad

2001-05-04 Thread Crossfire
Angus Lees was once rumoured to have said: \begin{Crossfire} Mason [aka HTML::Mason] is one of the two `embeded perl' systems for mod_perl. The other one is EmbPerl. [snip] HTML::Embperl is similar (in goal) to the others, but: To be fair to Mason, I'm going to compare against Gus'

[SLUG] UPS for linux

2001-05-04 Thread Martin Richards
Hi all, I'm looking at getting a UPS for a linux server, basically just for the box itself to allow a vaguely graceful shutdown with saves and no fsck nightmares. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on what would be a suitable choice, and advice on any solutions for linux that exist. At the

Re: [SLUG] UPS for linux

2001-05-04 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:07:05PM +1000, Martin Richards uttered: Hi all, I'm looking at getting a UPS for a linux server, basically just for the box itself to allow a vaguely graceful shutdown with saves and no fsck nightmares. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on what would be a

Re: [SLUG] UPS for linux

2001-05-04 Thread Chris MacKenzie
Steve Kowalik wrote: Also, I went out to buy a Netgear FA311TX or Intel EEPro based NIC today, and wound up getting talked into getting a 3com 3C905C-TXM. I was assured this is a reliable NIC with relatively low CPU demands and sustained high throughput. Does anyone have any comments on

RE: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action!

2001-05-04 Thread Jill Rowling
Free Software Experience Well my favourite Free Software Experience would have to be SAMBA+PERL+PHP+Apache. These have saved my bacon so many times I can't count. The set was installed at work by a wandering minstrel (read: helpful contractor) in an otherwise completely Windows shop. I have

RE: [SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?

2001-05-04 Thread Adam F. Bogacki
Muchas Gracias for your wisdom, Crossfire ! Unfortunately it is not so easy ... the whole goddam thing does not stay stable long enough to finish writing two words. I know ... I tried it. Adam Bogacki. -Original Message- From: Crossfire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 May, 2001

Re: [SLUG] UPS for linux

2001-05-04 Thread Dean Hamstead
Also, I went out to buy a Netgear FA311TX or Intel EEPro based NIC today, and wound up getting talked into getting a 3com 3C905C-TXM. I was assured this is a reliable NIC with relatively low CPU demands and sustained high throughput. Does anyone have any comments on these NICs? Is it a decent

Re: [SLUG] Looking for remote Sendmail Administrator

2001-05-04 Thread Jon Biddell
On Fri, 4 May 2001 12:23, Richard Pang wrote: Hi all, Anyone know of any web-based sendmail administration applications? I use Webmin and, while it doesn't handle EVERYTHING, is pretty damn good... www.webmin.com Jon - Please do NOT send

RE: [SLUG] Paste Buffer

2001-05-04 Thread Jim Hague
On 04-May-2001 Tony Green wrote: I'm looking for a CL tool that reads STDIN and places it into the paste buffer.. If you have WindowMaker installed, wxcopy(*) and wxpaste. (*) Which I note has benefitted from the attentions of one Luke Kendall of this parish. Wotcha, Luke. -- Jim Hague

Re: [SLUG] FYI - Net Banking on Linux - Not St George

2001-05-04 Thread Jon Biddell
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:47, Terry Collins wrote: If you are considering net banking under linux, avoid St George. Now forcing people to upgrade previously working versions of browsers. And avoid ANZ - they will categorically NOT support anything but IE/Netscape (no, the Evilware version of

RE: [SLUG] cdrom prob with vmware

2001-05-04 Thread Greg Hosler
kernel 2.2.15 has a known problem w/ the cdrom support. you should update yoru kernel from your distro's eratta updates. rgds, -Greg On 06-May-01 Joshua Burvill wrote: I was wondering if anyone might be able to give me a pointer with this. When I boot the vm from a windows/dos boot up

[SLUG] Netscape - Profile managers

2001-05-04 Thread Andy Eager
Hi all,, First, Thanks to Jeff and others for info on setting up imap / postfix fetchmail. After an interesting couple of days setting it all up I now have the following questions regarding multiple users: a) Does anyone know if there is a Linux profile manager for Netscape similar to the

Re: [SLUG] Netscape - Profile managers

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andy Eager (PS: I'm going to write a nice easy howto about this if someone hasn't already. It all looked much harder than it was mainly due to so much daunting info about sendmail and so little about postfix) http://www.postfix.org/ has excellent documentation; a little hard to

[SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
It's been a while since I've had to do RedHat stuff. When I try and install a package and get failed dependencies, do I _still_ have to go and hunt down all the packages individually, install them (and their dependencies) one at a time until I have them all and THEN can install the package?

Re: [SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rev Simon Rumble Please tell me there's a better way! (and without X) rpm -Uvh every package listed here That usually gets it out of the way. :) Of course, if there are any dependencies missing from those in the list, you will be off hunting again. RPM will handle ordering for you.

Re: [SLUG] FYI - Net Banking on Linux - Not St George

2001-05-04 Thread David
I hate to advocate ANY bank, but Westpac's internet works fine on all of netscape/linux and netscape/mozilla/IE/mac. On Fri, 4 May 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:47, Terry Collins wrote: If you are considering net banking under linux, avoid St George. Now forcing people

Re: [SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:48:24PM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered: rpm -Uvh every package listed here That usually gets it out of the way. :) Of course, if there are any dependencies missing from those in the list, you will be off hunting again. RPM will handle ordering for you. Yes but I have

Re: [SLUG] FYI - Net Banking on Linux - Not St George

2001-05-04 Thread Morrissey
This should not surprise too much, legend has it that the former Westpac in-house IT team (it is now mostly outsourced) had an enlightened attitude to stabilizing the banks M$ Exch. servers. About 2 yrs back unable to get acceptable levels of uptime any other way, they decided that Exchang ran

Re: [SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rev Simon Rumble Yes but I have to go and FIND the damn things first! Why can't I just do apt-get install bugzilla and have it worry about the dependencies?!? Well, there's a lot of reasons for that, but least of all Red Hat. Bugzilla isn't exactly a packagable application yet... I

[SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
Okay you've probably heard me ranting and raving about RedHat recently. The problem is I've been forced to admin some RH systems and it's really been getting up my nose. I've just grown used to Debian quality. The reason for RedHat's continued success, I think, has more to do with history than

Re: [SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Greg Hosler
On 04-May-01 Rev Simon Rumble wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:48:24PM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered: rpm -Uvh every package listed here That usually gets it out of the way. :) Of course, if there are any dependencies missing from those in the list, you will be off hunting again. RPM will

Re: [SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh *Please* submit these to Red Hat's bug system. Even better, you've listed existing bugs in your document. Nice work. :) - Jeff -- Funny, I have no trouble distinguishing my mobile phone from the others because it's in my _own fucking pocket_! - Mobile Rage

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rev Simon Rumble http://www.rumble.net/redhatsucks.html * Fix the reference to DHCP; you're talking about dhcpd, and it's confused a number of readers thus far (it's right later on, but the header is confusing). The reason for this is by-design; Red Hat's non-interactive setup

Re: [SLUG] RedHat dependencies

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:04:31AM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered: *Please* submit these to Red Hat's bug system. Even better, you've listed existing bugs in your document. Nice work. :) Yes I'm well into the habit of checking/reporting bugs when I come across them. After all, they get fixed

[SLUG] Technical Reviewers Wanted (was: Crazy Book Review Action!)

2001-05-04 Thread Glenn Stephens
Since the user group has been discussing books, I was wondering if anyone in SLUG would be able to assist me. I am looking for other technical reviewers (2-3) for a book I am writing on Kylix that is coming out in a few months. The book is soley focused on the GLibC function calls, so I am after

[SLUG] iptables: configuring the kernel?

2001-05-04 Thread Phillip
thx for your reply, mr. 'Crossfire'Anyway, anybody could tell me which module in the kernel configuration Ihave to set 'Y' and which one is'M' I'm a newies in Linux, I've tried to change the modules, but stilldoesn't workAnybody cantell me how to recompile kernel with the best way?What I

Re: [SLUG] Why RedHat sucks

2001-05-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:08:08AM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered: * Fix the reference to DHCP; Done. confusing). The reason for this is by-design; Red Hat's non-interactive setup hasn't really fit this in well (it could certainly be fixed to operate more like... the Debian packages

[SLUG] internet connection and bind

2001-05-04 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
All, I am not sure whether there is a solution to this. Assume a machine with a ppp device and an eth0 device. When the internet connection goes down, the machine loses that IP Address of the ppp connection, with that goes the HOSTNAME, too. The ethernet card is still up, with that there

Re: [SLUG] resolv.conf

2001-05-04 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:22:52PM +1000, Steven downing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Don't pon and poff (or ppp-up / ppp-down ) rewrite this so you can have different name servers depending on the connection you bring up. So if your connection dies, poff doesn't get a chance to re-write the

Re: [SLUG] internet connection and bind

2001-05-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jobst Schmalenbach Is there a way telling for example bind to be based on the eth0 device instead of being based on the ppp0 device? How do you mean 'based on'? You can use the listen-on BIND directive to have it attach to a given interface's IP address. You'll need to explain

[SLUG] zsh talk slides up

2001-05-04 Thread Andre Pang
hello all, i've _finally_ put the slides to my zsh talk which I gave at the Sydney Linux Users' Group meeting in March at: http://www.algorithm.com.au/talks/zsh/zsh-talk.html please let me know if you have any questions about ... anything. preferably zsh-related, though :). --

[SLUG] Microsoft spreading viruses?

2001-05-04 Thread Heracles
Has everyone seen this little gem? http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,5081825,00.html Seems Microsoft is sometimes a little careless ;-0 Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?

2001-05-04 Thread Crossfire
Adam F. Bogacki was once rumoured to have said: Muchas Gracias for your wisdom, Crossfire ! I'm actually sorry about my reply - I was in my usual early morning bad-mood and was extremely annoyed that nobody (except Colin) had suggested to boot single, which actually should have been the first

Re: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action!

2001-05-04 Thread David Kempe
* Linux for Windows Addicts: A 12-Step Program for Habitual Windows Users Please email back to the list with: - Your favourite Linux or Free Software related quote. Hey I found a favorite quote. It's actually Linus quoting Newton so I hope it counts. In response to a recent MS exec

Re: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action!

2001-05-04 Thread David Kempe
Sorry but i forgot a link to the article I was reading: http://web.siliconvalley.com/content/sv/2001/05/03/opinion/dgillmor/weblog/t orvalds.htm Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

RE: [SLUG] UPS for linux

2001-05-04 Thread Bernhard Lüder
Hi, You may also want consider SOLA. Firstly they are Australian made Secondly they have software for various OSs Thirdly their software works Fourthly their support is also reasonable. I am using their 520 model and it works great on NT as well as RH6.0 and SCO. I haven't had to use the

Re: [SLUG] FYI - Net Banking on Linux - Not St George

2001-05-04 Thread Ben Donohue
I always thought that the reason it was called Exchange was that after you bought it and it didn't work, you could take it back and *exchange* it for something else! :-) ben Morrissey wrote: This should not surprise too much, legend has it that the former Westpac in-house IT team (it is now

[SLUG] gesture based input

2001-05-04 Thread Conrad Parker
I recall a thread about this a while ago (or was it chatter at dinner?); this may have already been mentioned, but there is a project called wayV for doing gesture based input. Check it out at: http://www.stressbunny.com/wayv/ it seems to have quite a few modes of operation and is

Re: [SLUG] gesture based input

2001-05-04 Thread Peter Hardy
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:16:11PM +1000, Conrad Parker wrote: I recall a thread about this a while ago (or was it chatter at dinner?); this may have already been mentioned, but there is a project called wayV for doing gesture based input. Check it out at: