t;> > Recently we have an observation that really puzzled us. We have two
>> > instances of Solr, one in stand alone mode and one is a single-shard
>> solr
>> > cloud with a couple of replicas. Both are indexed with the same
>> documents
>> > and ha
> solr
> > cloud with a couple of replicas. Both are indexed with the same
> documents
> > and have same solr version 6.6.2. When issue the same query, the solr
> > score from stand alone and cloud are different. How could this happen?
> > With the same data, software
21:19
> To: solr-user
> Subject: Re: Different solr score between stand alone vs cloud mode solr
>
> Short form:
>
> As docs are updated, they're marked as deleted until the segment is
> merged. This affects things like term frequency and doc frequency
> which in turn
single-shard
> solr
> > cloud with a couple of replicas. Both are indexed with the same
> documents
> > and have same solr version 6.6.2. When issue the same query, the solr
> > score from stand alone and cloud are different. How could this happen?
> > With t
servation that really puzzled us. We have two
> instances of Solr, one in stand alone mode and one is a single-shard solr
> cloud with a couple of replicas. Both are indexed with the same documents
> and have same solr version 6.6.2. When issue the same query, the solr
> score from
score from stand alone and cloud are different. How could this happen?
With the same data, software version and query, should solr score be
exactly same regardless of cloud mode or not?
Thanks,
Wei
On 2/23/2018 2:28 PM, Hodder, Rick wrote:
> Combining everything into one query is what I'd prefer because as you said,
> one would think that with everything in the same query, the score would
> organize everything nicely.
I don't recall writing anything like that. How did you infer that from
, February 23, 2018 10:41 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: SOLR Score Range Changed
The difference seems due to the fact that default similarity in solr 7 is
BM25 while it used to be TF-IDF in solr 4. As you realised, BM25 function is
smoother.
You can configure schema.xml to use
Land)
Searching for 750 rows has hits that are all focused on Consolidated (seemingly
because the number of words causes the SOLR score to go up into a higher range
for all Consolidated results, as mentioned in my previous email.) Searching for
all 3 things at the same time doesn
The difference seems due to the fact that default similarity in solr 7 is
BM25 while it used to be TF-IDF in solr 4. As you realised, BM25 function
is smoother.
You can configure schema.xml to use ClassicSimilarity, for instance
On 2/22/2018 9:50 AM, Hodder, Rick wrote:
I am migrating from SOLR 4.10.2 to SOLR 7.1.
All seems to be going well, except for one thing: the score that is coming back
for the resulting documents is giving different scores.
The absolute score has no meaning when you change something -- the
I am migrating from SOLR 4.10.2 to SOLR 7.1.
All seems to be going well, except for one thing: the score that is coming back
for the resulting documents is giving different scores.
The core uses a schema. Here's the schema info for the field that i am
searching on:
When searching
I would like to stress how important is what Erick explained.
A lot of times people want to use the score to show it to the
users/calculate probability/doing weird calculations.
Score is used to rank results, given a query.
To give a local ordering.
This is the only useful information for the end
> faraz.fall...@googlemail.com>:
> >
> >> Oki but If ID Just make an simple query with a "where Claude" and sort
> by
> >> a field i See no sense in calculating a score right?
> >>
> >> Am 01.12.2017 16:33 schrieb "Aman Tandon"
4:38 nachm. schrieb "Faraz Fallahi" <
> faraz.fall...@googlemail.com>:
>
>> Oki but If ID Just make an simple query with a "where Claude" and sort by
>> a field i See no sense in calculating a score right?
>>
>> Am 01.12.2017 16:33 schrieb &
e right?
>
> Am 01.12.2017 16:33 schrieb "Aman Tandon" <amantandon...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Faraz,
>>
>> Solr score which you could retrieved by adding in fl parameter could be
>> helpful to understand the following:
>>
>> 1) search relevan
Oki but If ID Just make an simple query with a "where Claude" and sort by a
field i See no sense in calculating a score right?
Am 01.12.2017 16:33 schrieb "Aman Tandon" <amantandon...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Faraz,
>
> Solr score which you could retrieved by adding
Hi Faraz,
Solr score which you could retrieved by adding in fl parameter could be
helpful to understand the following:
1) search relevance ranking: how much score solr has given to the top &
second top document, and with debug=true you could better understand what
is causing that score.
2)
Hi
A simple question: what are the most common use cases for the solr score of
documents retrieved after firing queries?
I dont have a real understanding of its purpose at the moment.
Thx for helping
g made, maybe it could solves the problem.
Thanks for your help!
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n some way) the default rank solr provide
> us with the ratio of documents so unrelated documents will be penalized
> while those with higher ratio values will be overrated.
>
> Greetings, and thanks for your help.
>
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to a topic are being ranked as high as documents related. So,
>in
>order to penalize them we are trying to use the ratio or term
>frequency/word
>length.
>
>Nevertheless we aren't able to find a practical way to make it.
>
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to find a practical way to make it.
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hat is about faceting, word
> selection and so on.
>
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. To establish a threshold of minimums,
so that, we are trying to use hit ratio to modify score.
After we rank on that topics, all work after that is about faceting, word
selection and so on.
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lated documents will be penalized
> while those with higher ratio values will be overrated.
>
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cuments so unrelated documents will be penalized
while those with higher ratio values will be overrated.
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, however. Could this be due
to some indexing issue with the DIH?
Thanks,
-Rick
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:40:18 -0700
> From: hossman_luc...@fucit.org
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Solr debug 'explain' values differ from th
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:17:04 -0700
: From: Rick Sullivan <r...@ricksullivan.net>
: Reply-To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
: To: "solr-user@lucene.apache.org" <solr-user@lucene.apache.org>
: Subject: RE: Solr debug 'explain' values differ from the Solr score
:
: After so
the problem using SolrCloud 5.5.0, Solr 5.5.0 (not cloud), and Solr
5.4.1.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
-Rick
From: r...@ricksullivan.net
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Solr debug 'explain' values differ from the Solr score
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:34:30 -0800
Hi,
I'm seeing behavior
em to agree. However, in the final score I receive, that
document's score has been adjusted down.
The relevant debug response information can be found here:
http://apaste.info/mju
Does anyone have an idea why the Solr score may differ from the debug value?
Thanks,-Rick
immagine when i searching i get this result
>> doc1 score =8
>> doc2 score =6.4
>> doc3 score=6
>> doc8score=5.5
>> doc5 score=2
>> i wana to change solr score threashold .in this way i set threashold for
>> example >4
>> and then i didn't get doc5 as
doc1 score =8
> doc2 score =6.4
> doc3 score=6
> doc8score=5.5
> doc5 score=2
> i wana to change solr score threashold .in this way i set threashold for
> example >4
> and then i didn't get doc5 as result.can i do this?if yes how?
> and if not how i can modified search
hi all,
i wanna to know about solr search relevency scoreing threashold.
can i change it?
i mean immagine when i searching i get this result
doc1 score =8
doc2 score =6.4
doc3 score=6
doc8score=5.5
doc5 score=2
i wana to change solr score threashold .in this way i set threashold for
example &g
score =6.4
doc3 score=6
doc8score=5.5
doc5 score=2
i wana to change solr score threashold .in this way i set threashold for
example >4
and then i didn't get doc5 as result.can i do this?if yes how?
and if not how i can modified search to don't get docs as a result that
these docs have a lot dista
Hello,
I would like to use the Solr score distribution to pick up most relevant
documents from the search result. Rather than top n results, I am
interested only in picking up the most relevant based on statistical
distribution of the scores.
A brief study of some sample searches (the most
Hello Nicholas!
you can specify a function query as a main query where you can operate with
DVs, then you can use regular tfidf score from arbitrary query as one of
the arguments in the functional query see an example in
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FunctionQuery#query
have a good research!
On
Hi Mikhail,
Thank you very much! I'm using eDisMax by default, I think I will need to
change it to defType=func and pass all the query parameters (fq mainly) to
the sub query right?
Nicholas Ding
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Mikhail Khludnev
mkhlud...@griddynamics.com wrote:
Hello
Hi Nicholas,
you can use sort by function feature of solr.
sort=sum(
mul(query(field:TfIdfQuery),x1),
mul(x1,v2))
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:23 PM, Nicholas Ding nicholas...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Mikhail,
Thank you very much! I'm using eDisMax by default, I think I will need to
change
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Nicholas Ding nicholas...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Mikhail,
Thank you very much! I'm using eDisMax by default, I think I will need to
change it to defType=func and
I wonder why do you ask, because the given link has three examples of
including edismax into the
Thank you so much, Mikhail! It works perfectly.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Mikhail Khludnev
mkhlud...@griddynamics.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Nicholas Ding nicholas...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Mikhail,
Thank you very much! I'm using eDisMax by default, I think I will
Hi,
Currently, I'm trying to implement a ranking algorithm on Solr to include
TFIDFSimilarity score into a formula.
Ranking = TFIDFSimilarity Score * X1 + V1 * X2 + V2 * X3 + . + Vn-1 * Xn
Basically, the values of Vn are stored in DocValues, I can access them in
customized Function Query.
Hi All,
I need a specific score mechanism.
I would like to sort my results based on customize scoring field.
scoring for example -
1. If this is a new object - 100
2. Edited - 80
3. Recent search - 50
4. Opened - 40
and some more actions...
And then when execute a
How are you storing this information in your documents?
Regards,
Alex
On 16/07/2014 5:03 pm, Shay Sofer sha...@checkpoint.com wrote:
Hi All,
I need a specific score mechanism.
I would like to sort my results based on customize scoring field.
scoring for example -
1. If this
: Alexandre Rafalovitch [mailto:arafa...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: Solr score manager
How are you storing this information in your documents?
Regards,
Alex
On 16/07/2014 5:03 pm, Shay Sofer sha...@checkpoint.com wrote:
Hi All,
I need a specific
Shay this presentation I gave at apachecon and dc solr exchange might
be useful to you:
http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/o19s/hacking-lucene-for-custom-search-results
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Good.
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I will send the debugQuery. They are exactly the same.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Raymond Wiker rwi...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you sure that SOLR is rounding incorrectly, and not simply differently
from what you expect? I was surprised myself at some of the rounding
behaviour I saw with
Are you sure that SOLR is rounding incorrectly, and not simply differently
from what you expect? I was surprised myself at some of the rounding
behaviour I saw with SOLR, but according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding , the results were valid (just not
the round-up-from-half that I naively
When doing complex boosting/bq we are getting rounding errors on the score.
To get the score to be consistent I needed to use rint on sort:
sort=rint(product(sum($p_score,$s_score,$q_score),100)) desc,s_query asc
str name=p_scorerecip(priority,1,.5,.01)/str
str
Thanks for your replies.
I am actually doing the frange approach for now. The only downside I see there
is it makes the function call twice, calling createWeight() twice. And so my
social connections are evaluated twice which is quite heavy operation. So I was
thinking if I could get away with
Hi ,
As per this post here
http://grokbase.com/t/lucene/solr-user/131jzcg3q2/how-to-round-solr-score.
I was able to use my custom fn in
sort(defType=funcq=socialDegree(id,1)fl=score,*sort=score%20asc) - works,
but can't facet on the
same(defType=funcq=socialDegree(id,1)fl=score,*facet
: 'score' is a pseudo-field, i.e., it does not actually exist in
: the index, which is probably why it cannot be faceted on.
: Faceting on a rounded score seems like an unusual use
: case. What requirement are you trying to address?
agreed, more details would be helpful.
FWIW: the only way
On 17 September 2013 18:31, Mamta Thakur mtha...@care.com wrote:
Hi ,
As per this post here
http://grokbase.com/t/lucene/solr-user/131jzcg3q2/how-to-round-solr-score.
I was able to use my custom fn in
sort(defType=funcq=socialDegree(id,1)fl=score,*sort=score%20asc) - works,
but can't facet
do you think?
A big THANKS in advance
Álvaro
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: With this approach now I can boost (i.e. multiply Solr's score by a factor)
: the results of any query by doing something like this:
: http://localhost:8080/solr/Prueba/select_test?q={!boost
: b=rating(usuario1)}text:grapafl=score
:
: Where 'rating' is the name of my function.
:
:
the map in the ValueSource. Then my floatVal method would just
be a 'get' from my map.
I'm so close!
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Thanks A LOT!
Regards,
Álvaro
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see
how could it be user-customized... :(
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does not have to be necessarily the docID. It can be some other
field. Anyway, even in that case, it's still a 'docKey' which I can't see
how could it be user-customized... :(
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:
http://www.slideshare.net/thelabdude/boosting-documents-in-solr-lucene-revolution-2011
...
: Start by looking at Solr's external file field and
Rather then using ExternalFileField as imspiration, i would suggest you
look at implementing a custom ValueSourceParser...
+ a
FunctionQuery is a solution to my problem...
Any hint?
Thanks!
Álvaro
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is a solution to my problem...
Any hint?
Thanks!
Álvaro
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combined score.
What do you think?
A big THANKS in advance
Álvaro
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On 18 January 2013 18:26, Gustav xbihy...@sharklasers.com wrote:
I have to bump this... is it possible to do it (round solr's score) with any
integrated query function??
Do not have a Solr index handy at the moment to check,
but it should be possible to do this with function queries.
Please see
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On 18 January 2013 19:18, Gustav xbihy...@sharklasers.com wrote:
Hey Gora, thanks for the fast answer!
I Had tried the rint(score) function before(it would be perfect in my case)
but it didnt work out, i guess it only works with indexed fields, so i got
the sort param could not be parsed as
: Not really. The percentage given in other search packages is fairly
: bogus. You have to do a global batch analysis of all of the index to
: get a true scale for relevance.
Exactly...
https://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ#Why_Aren.27t_Scores_returned_as_a_percentage.3F_How_Do_I_normalize_Scores.3F
on (ranking and search fields)
formula, but please allow me to tell you that Solr score can help us to
define this document is relevant or not in some cases.
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It will never return no result because its relative to score in previous
result
If score0.25*last_score then stop
Since score0 and last score is 0 for initial hit it will not stop
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You are right Mr.Ravish, because this depends on (ranking and search fields)
formula, but please allow me to tell you that Solr score can help us to
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use this.
If I always have that x% threshold in place , there may be many queries
which would not return anything and I certainly do not want that.
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To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 5:59 AM
In my application logic, I want to
implement the ranking (scoring
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of two scores. However, by using boosted query, I lost the power of dismax
query which can search across multiple fields.
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0 to NOT_A_FIXED_NUMBER
To allow better combination of text match my functions, I want the text
score to be normalized between 0 1. Is there any way I can achieve that
here?
Thanks
Sid
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: Perhaps you can solve your usecase by playing with the new eDismax
: boost parameter, which multiplies the functions with the other score
: instead of adding.
and FWIW: the boost param of the edismax parser is really just syntactic
sugar for using the BoostQParsre wrapped arround an edismax
to NOT_A_FIXED_NUMBER
To allow better combination of text match my functions, I want the text
score to be normalized between 0 1. Is there any way I can achieve that
here?
Thanks
Sid
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:To allow better combination of text match my functions, I want the text
: score to be normalized between 0 1. Is there any way I can achieve that
: here?
It is achievable, but it is not usualy meaningful...
https://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/ScoresAsPercentages
-Hoss
(body:softwar engin in 339), product of:
1.0 = tf(phraseFreq=1.0)
5.3680387 = idf(body: softwar=34 engin=223)
0.109375 = fieldNorm(field=body, doc=339)
/str
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= fieldWeight(body:softwar engin in 339), product of:
1.0 = tf(phraseFreq=1.0)
5.3680387 = idf(body: softwar=34 engin=223)
0.109375 = fieldNorm(field=body, doc=339)
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Hello,
I would like to cut solr score to 3 or 4 digits .
Indeed I would like to be able to sort by score, then by another critria (
price for example).
So if two docs have score of 1.67989 and 1.6767, I would like to sort them
by price.
Do you have any idea how I could do that ?
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM, squaro marclebe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I would like to cut solr score to 3 or 4 digits .
Indeed I would like to be able to sort by score, then by another critria (
price for example).
So if two docs have score of 1.67989 and 1.6767, I would like
On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM, squaro marclebe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
I would like to cut solr score to 3 or 4 digits .
Indeed I would like to be able to sort by score, then by another
critria (
price for example).
So
, squaro marclebe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I would like to cut solr score to 3 or 4 digits .
Indeed I would like to be able to sort by score, then by another critria (
price for example).
So if two docs have score of 1.67989 and 1.6767, I would like to sort them
by price.
Do you have
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:
I don't there there is an existing way to round them. But it will be a
useful contribution if you can write a function query for rounding.
Look at http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FunctionQuery
What did you have in
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Walter Underwood
wunderw...@netflix.comwrote:
I think what you want to do is add in a function query that gives
values in that range.
The scale function won't work in this use-case because it will give you a
double in the given range. So you cannot do sort by
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar
shalinman...@gmail.com wrote:
Yonik added a way to use the score of a query in function queries with
SOLR-939. Look at the query function on the wiki. Some very cool things
are possible now :)
Sorry, that should have been SOLR-1046
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar
shalinman...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Walter Underwood wunderw...@netflix.com
wrote:
I think what you want to do is add in a function query that gives
values in that range.
The scale function won't work in
?
Anybody knows about it?
Please help me.
with Regards,
Santhanaraj R
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about it?
Please help me.
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Hi, everyone!
As we known, solr uses lucene scoring.
This score is the raw score. Scores returned from Hits aren't
necessarily the raw score, however. If the top-scoring document scores
greater than 1.0, all scores are normalized from that score, such that
all scores from Hits are uaranteed to be
Solr returns the raw score, not the Lucene Hits normalized one.
It's trivial for the client to normalize if desired - take the top
scoring document, if it's greater than 1.0 then scale all scores
based on that.
Erik
On Oct 26, 2007, at 2:53 AM, zx zhang wrote:
Hi, everyone!
As
: It's trivial for the client to normalize if desired - take the top scoring
: document, if it's greater than 1.0 then scale all scores based on that.
this is why doclists include the maxScore in their output as well, to
make it easy to normalize scores even if you are using pagination (or
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