Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-12 Thread Rufus
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: IMO, the buttons need to be sized so that they appear no smaller than 1/2 the width of the former oblong buttons, or of a diameter that is equal to the height of the former oblong buttons. They also need to be placed far enough from the dialog box

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-12 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: IMO, the buttons need to be sized so that they appear no smaller than 1/2 the width of the former oblong buttons, or of a diameter that is equal to the height of the former oblong buttons. They also need to be placed far enough from the dialog box edge such tha

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-12 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus wrote: IMO, the buttons need to be sized so that they appear no smaller than 1/2 the width of the former oblong buttons, or of a diameter that is equal to the height of the former oblong buttons. They also need to be placed far enough from the dialog box edge such that a user doesn't risk

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Rufus
Philip Chee wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:17:11 -0800, Rufus wrote: IMO, the buttons need to be sized so that they appear no smaller than 1/2 the width of the former oblong buttons, or of a diameter that is equal to the height of the former oblong buttons. They also need to be placed far enoug

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:17:11 -0800, Rufus wrote: > IMO, the buttons need to be sized so that they appear no smaller than > 1/2 the width of the former oblong buttons, or of a diameter that is > equal to the height of the former oblong buttons. > > They also need to be placed far enough from the

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Rufus
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over othe

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's crap when y

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's crap when y

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-11 Thread Robert Kaiser
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's crap when you don't even use the

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Rufus a écrit : ...what's wrong with nicely shaped, user and hardware accessible, generic buttons? It's a browser suite, not a floor show... That's absolutely my point! I fund the current ones fit all those criteria. Others don't. It doe

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Rufus
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Wrong. EOM. No, it's not wrong. Everyone who dislikes the new progress dialog agrees. T

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Rufus
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's crap when you don't even use th

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Why are you so adamant on keeping your crap over other people's crap when you don't even use the thing?

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Wrong. EOM. No, it's not wrong. Everyone who dislikes the new progress dialog agrees. _

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Rufus a écrit : ...what's wrong with nicely shaped, user and hardware accessible, generic buttons? It's a browser suite, not a floor show... That's absolutely my point! I fund the current ones fit all those criteria. Others don't. It doesn't mean I'm right, j

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Rufus
S. Beaulieu wrote: Rufus a écrit : ...what's wrong with nicely shaped, user and hardware accessible, generic buttons? It's a browser suite, not a floor show... That's absolutely my point! I fund the current ones fit all those criteria. Others don't. It doesn't mean I'm right, just that I pr

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread S. Beaulieu
Rufus a écrit : ...what's wrong with nicely shaped, user and hardware accessible, generic buttons? It's a browser suite, not a floor show... That's absolutely my point! I fund the current ones fit all those criteria. Others don't. It doesn't mean I'm right, just that I prefer something diff

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Rufus
S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : Don't have to use the us stamp jum could put a solid block in place of the stamp. at least they don't exactly look like a 4 year old designed them. Just suggestions anyway Agreed! My point was more along the line of beauty/funtionality/looks being

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Rufus
Graham wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. So what? It worked! ...and if it worked, that means it wasn't "bad" in any way shape or form. So wh

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: As far as the Download Manager went We're talking about progress windows here, not the download manager. Robert Kaiser Download Manager progress, progress-progress...it seems to me it's an endemic implementation that needs to be addressed and corrected.

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread S. Beaulieu
Phillip Jones a écrit : Don't have to use the us stamp jum could put a solid block in place of the stamp. at least they don't exactly look like a 4 year old designed them. Just suggestions anyway Agreed! My point was more along the line of beauty/funtionality/looks being in the eye of the be

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Jones
S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : At least they don't look so cartoonish looking To me, they do. Plus, the stamp is very US-centric. S. changed the stamp to just a Green block with no markings. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmj

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Jones
S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : At least they don't look so cartoonish looking To me, they do. Plus, the stamp is very US-centric. S. Don't have to use the us stamp jum could put a solid block in place of the stamp. at least they don't exactly look like a 4 year old designed

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Graham wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. So what? It worked! Here is some suggested icons: http://www.phillipmjones.net/B

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread S. Beaulieu
Phillip Jones a écrit : At least they don't look so cartoonish looking To me, they do. Plus, the stamp is very US-centric. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamon

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Graham wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. So what? It worked! Here is some suggested icons: http://www.phillipmjones.net/Browser.png http://www.

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Graham
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. So what? It worked! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@l

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Robert Kaiser
Phillip Jones wrote: EOM ??? End Of Message. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Do NOT kill the progress windows! I agree, even if I personally don't use them, I see why some people like them and really want to give those an experience that is functional, useful and well-designed at the same time. I just miss ideas on how to achieve that.

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Wrong. EOM. Robert Kaiser EOM ??? Please speak like a user instead of an Engineer or Developer. -- Phillip M.

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-09 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus wrote: As far as the Download Manager went We're talking about progress windows here, not the download manager. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seam

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Robert Kaiser ...then you haven't seen much. As far as the Download Manager went, and the the dialog boxes that appe

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus wrote: Just bring back what was - that was a good design. In fact it was probably the worst piece of crap I've ever seen in my life, design-wise. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lis

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Do NOT kill the progress windows! I agree, even if I personally don't use them, I see why some people like them and really want to give those an experience that is functional, useful and well-designed at the same time. I just miss ideas on how to achieve that.

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus wrote: Do NOT kill the progress windows! I agree, even if I personally don't use them, I see why some people like them and really want to give those an experience that is functional, useful and well-designed at the same time. I just miss ideas on how to achieve that. All they need t

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Benoit Renard wrote: Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Wrong. EOM. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozil

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: This is a subject that has been gone over from time to time. In most groups sniping is recommended. Don't shoot me! ...I'll pass you some ammo! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-se

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, a

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
dominique wrote: Philip Chee wrote, On 12/8/2009 10:31 AM: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. Almost all the SeaMonkey developers are actually against the mini buttons. The only person in favour of the mini buttons is, unfortunately, KaiRo, the pr

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. We all know that the current design isn't really good (though I am convinced i

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:58:14 -0800, Rufus wrote: I thought they wanted (and deserve...) feedback when they get it wrong? The itty-bitty buttons on the new Download panes are pretty clearly wrong. Particularly for laptop users. It was right before...make it right again.

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Rufus
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:01:02 -0800, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on this project. ...how a

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: This is a subject that has been gone over from time to time. In most groups sniping is recommended. Don't shoot me! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees tha

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread dominique
Philip Chee wrote, On 12/8/2009 10:31 AM: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. Almost all the SeaMonkey developers are actually against the mini buttons. The only person in favour of the mini buttons is, unfortunately, KaiRo, the project co-ordinator

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Kaiser
Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. We all know that the current design isn't really good (though I am convinced it's better than the ol

Re: [Snipping posts] was (Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.)

2009-12-08 Thread Daniel
NoOp wrote: On 12/07/2009 04:43 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: ... In that case, my space-bar is requesting profit sharing from you ;-P ... Most *support* Groups prefer no snipping what so ever so that threading can be maintained, to determine what steps in solving a problem

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:58:14 -0800, Rufus wrote: >>> I thought they wanted (and deserve...) feedback when they get it wrong? >>> >>> The itty-bitty buttons on the new Download panes are pretty clearly >>> wrong. Particularly for laptop users. It was right before...make it >>> right again. Tha

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-08 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:01:02 -0800, Rufus wrote: > Philip Chee wrote: >> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: >> >>> too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. >> >> Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on >> this project. > > ...how

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Rufus
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 5:58 PM, Rufus wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 12:23 PM, Rufus wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this proj

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/7/2009 7:05 PM, Mark Hansen wrote: > On 12/7/2009 5:58 PM, Rufus wrote: >> Mark Hansen wrote: >>> On 12/7/2009 12:23 PM, Rufus wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: > On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: >> Philip Chee wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: >>> >>

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/7/2009 5:58 PM, Rufus wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> On 12/7/2009 12:23 PM, Rufus wrote: >>> Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: > Philip Chee wrote: >> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: >> >>> too...what's up with the interface guys work

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Rufus
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 12:23 PM, Rufus wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid o

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Leonidas Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Hartmut Figge schrieb: Martin Freitag: /snip/ Most *support* Groups prefer no snipping what so ever so that threading can be maintained, to determine what steps in solving a problem have been tried. If its in a groups where conversation is going on

[Snipping posts] was (Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.)

2009-12-07 Thread NoOp
On 12/07/2009 04:43 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: > Martin Freitag wrote: ... >> In that case, my space-bar is requesting profit sharing from you ;-P ... > > Most *support* Groups prefer no snipping what so ever so that threading > can be maintained, to determine what steps in solving a problem have

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Phillip Jones
Martin Freitag wrote: Hartmut Figge schrieb: Martin Freitag: PS: Dudes, delete the unnecessary quotes when answering (pleeeaaase), this is a mess here reading half a book on every post! On the other hand it saves time. When you have decided to skip such monsters instead of reading them. :)

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/7/2009 12:23 PM, Rufus wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: >>> Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: > too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Rufus
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on this project. Phil ...how about s

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/7/2009 12:01 PM, Rufus wrote: > Philip Chee wrote: >> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: >> >>> too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. >> >> Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on >> this project. >> >> Phil >> > > ...h

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Rufus
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on this project. Phil ...how about some common sense, then? -- - Rufus __

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Martin Freitag
Hartmut Figge schrieb: Martin Freitag: PS: Dudes, delete the uncecessary quotes when answering (pleeeaaase), this is a mess here reading half a book on every post! On the other hand it saves time. When you have decided to skip such monsters instead of reading them. :) In that case, my space

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Hartmut Figge
Martin Freitag: >PS: Dudes, delete the uncecessary quotes when answering (pleeeaaase), >this is a mess here reading half a book on every post! On the other hand it saves time. When you have decided to skip such monsters instead of reading them. :) Hartmut ___

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-07 Thread Martin Freitag
Phillip Jones schrieb: Leonidas Jones wrote: Found the problem go to about:cofig the following line should be: default userset browser.download.manager.showWhenStarting;true despite being set properly in preferences you will see: *userset* *browser*.*download*.*manager*.*showWhenStarting*;*fal

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: > too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on this project. Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from th

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program d

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Leonidas Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Sho

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Robert Kaiser
Phillip Jones schrieb: in SM2 Download Manager does *not* come up regardless of what is set. It has to be manually opened. In my 2.0.1pre builds, it always comes up (or is flashed to get attention when it is already open). I was under the impression that this is our default, and it should be,

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Rufus
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread David Wilkinson
Phillip Jones wrote: ... in 1.1.18 and below if something was started to download the Download Manager would come to the Front if you had to show Download Manager in preferences. This is not my experience. If download manager is not already open, then it is opened and comes to the front. Bu

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talki

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensi

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more t

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your state

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about tha

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-06 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Downloa

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-05 Thread Rufus
Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Downlo

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-05 Thread Leonidas Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Download Manager is used by a

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-05 Thread Jens Hatlak
Robert Kaiser wrote: Oh, and I was under the impression that this pref is set to true by default, but I might be wrong, like every so often. No it's not: One could get that impression, though, because the checkbox lo

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-05 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Download Manager is used by a

Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-05 Thread Robert Kaiser
Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Download Manager is used by almost everybody, in

Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.

2009-12-05 Thread Phillip Jones
I kept wondering why the download manager didn't kick in and come to front when you start a download. well I had to change this setting: browser.download.manager.focusWhenStarting;true It originally set to false which means you don't know you've even started a download until you actually open