Re: SMv2 feature request (rant)

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Jones
Alan Cummings wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Alan Cummings wrote: I've been using SM 2 for a couple of months now and have to say I've been very happy with it. (Ubuntu 8.04) But one thing that I do hate about it (and TB) is that I can't just select a message and press the space-bar to open and

Re: Address Not Found

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Jones
A Williams wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/6/2010 10:31 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: After installing SM2 this afternoon I keep getting the following error message for good few WEB sites, which with SM1 I have had no problems at all Address Not Found www.ebay.com could not be found. Please check

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Jones
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:35:40 +0100, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords

Re: Opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV.

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Jones
Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: When opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV. I receive the following error. There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or play. If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid. If you are trying to

Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool

2010-01-08 Thread Phillip Jones
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany

Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool

2010-01-08 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:38:05 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. I've installed MrTech and it didn't interfere with PDF Browser Plugin. And QuoteColors works as it should. Evidently

Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...

2010-01-08 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:54:43 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote: But then, how would a novice user even know that about:config even exists, if not for the advice of a knowledgeable user, or reading a detailed Knowledge Base article? Seems to me its not exactly the kind of thing

Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Devils_Advocate wrote: Rinaldi J. Montessirina...@senior.envision wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already?

Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, /Ray_Net/: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we

Re: Frustrated by lack of support by most Add-on projects

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Jesse Molina schrieb: I am a long-time Mozilla-suite and Seamonkey user. I'm very frustrated that many Add-on projects are not supporting Seamonkey. I've complained to project developers when I've found incompatible apps, but I really don't think Firefox developers care

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Martin Freitag wrote: Philip Chee schrieb: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: You will say the same after switching to SM 2.1 ? Unfortunately we may be forced to do that as well. Chrome seems to have lit a fire under the Firefox devs and they plan to abandon the 3.5 (Gecko

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: On 1/10/2010 12:13 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, /Ray_Net/: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not

Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:58 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 4:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.comwrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then

Re: SM 2.0.1 Mac - Mail/News Tabs.

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Martin Freitag wrote: Rufus schrieb: Just noticed that if one opens a new Tab in Mail/News from the Account/Server home page, the snap setting for the Preview pane is not remembered, however, if one opens a new Tab from the window with the Preview pane displayed, the position/state of the

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people compiling the kernel each month ... may be not this frequency, however we prefer to use a

Re: Frustrated by lack of support by most Add-on projects

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: One for example is the theme SkyPilot Classic. It was my favorite them but it has an issue with QuoteColors I've posted on the Projectit.com site's Forum and emailed support. It's as if the fellow That originated the site has abandoned the site

Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
JeffM wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: [...]sites[...]that use[ActiveX]. Yup. Site owners who insist on using junk that only *some* folks have is another case of stupidity that surfers have to deal with. Webmaster who don't know how to sniff for browsers properly has also been mentioned. Folks

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-10 Thread Phillip Jones
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 10/1/2010 16:07, Phillip Jones told the world: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:41:01 +0100, Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for this clear answer ... But we don't like to chenge, change and change again the versions this looks like Linux people

Re: Back to 1.18 - More

2010-01-11 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:07:33 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: Fortunately now that we have made the big move from the old XPFE backend to the new toolkit, subsequent upgrades won't be as traumatic. If things work out upgrades will be as seamless as Firefox

Re: Why wont SM 2 open my Mozilla profile?

2010-01-11 Thread Phillip Jones
Rick Merrill wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: Justin Wood (Callek)cal...@gmail.comwrote : On 1/9/2010 9:05 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: I need Seamonkey 2 to open my Mozilla profile from 1.1.18 to see all my stored passwords, but that profile doesnt show up in SM 2 to even BE opened. SM2

Re: Image permissions

2010-01-11 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/11/2010 12:14 AM, Rex wrote: Today I thought I'll try out the 'accept images from originating server only' (although I already use adblock). I opened my Twitter page, and all the user profile pics were blocked. Found that they were coming from a0, a1, a2, a3.twimg.com

Re: Image permissions

2010-01-11 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/11/2010 10:03 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/11/2010 12:14 AM, Rex wrote: Today I thought I'll try out the 'accept images from originating server only' (although I already use adblock). I opened my Twitter page, and all the user profile pics were

Re: Image permissions

2010-01-11 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/11/2010 10:03 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/11/2010 12:14 AM, Rex wrote: Today I thought I'll try out the 'accept images from originating server only' (although I already use adblock). I opened my Twitter page, and all

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-13 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: David E. Ross: Bug #214675 proposes to delete the Profile Manager. *EEKKK* It is being extensively discussed at mozilla.dev.planning. Too lazy. :) Hartmut I've read through the discussion. I think, as I am reading it, there will not be a

Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Tom Pamin wrote: MikeyG wrote: Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers Add-Ons that are out there? I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay with SM any longer. Is

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase

Re: Q about mail/news sorting

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Andrea Govoni wrote: Il 14/01/10 01:00, Bill Davidsen ha scritto: Andrea Govoni wrote: This is true for e-mails but not for newsgroups messages, AFAIK. So what's the point of having Sort by -- Received even for newsgroups and what does it actually do for newsgroups messages? It seems a bug

Re: Seamonkey and DirecTV login???

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/14/2010 12:21 AM, Martin Freitag wrote: Devils_Advocate schrieb: DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown, and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rufus: ...heh...us former DOS 1.0 users and FORTRAN coders get the concept, but actually use the Terminal window?..nahhh...not without guidance from above and beyond... Interesting. On my Linux with only icewm and no desktop i would be lost without xterm. And lots of it.

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-14 Thread Phillip Jones
»Q« wrote: Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones
»Q« wrote: Innews:mjqdnfxvpcrqxdlwnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: On Mac system while the actual system used is FreeBSD UNIX the Apple Mac Interface does all the UNIX commands and the UNIX is hidden. Not all of them, by far. It just does the stuff

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones
»Q« wrote: Innews:lradnsqnx61gxnlwnz2dnuvz_tudn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: /snip/ You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually read. Perhaps part of the problem

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones
Hartmut Figge wrote: David E. Ross: I was used to setting alias rm='rm -i' but I was working at a location other than my usual. I entered rm * Quickly realizing what I had done, I then entered CTRL-C But it was too late. I didn't lose all my files, but I lost too

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-16 Thread Phillip Jones
Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: Hartmut Figge wrote: user: enters command system: are you sure? user: yes system: really? user: YES system: would you like to reflect your decision? user: $§%$§ Hart *g* mut Well the Mac OS is not quite that way the first 3 step are accurate

Re: PDF Problem

2010-01-16 Thread Phillip Jones
Tom Pamin wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried the Adobe test page, it is possible the web

Re: PDF Problem

2010-01-16 Thread Phillip Jones
Tom Pamin wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-16 Thread Phillip Jones
Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: How Mac handles either download of software, update of software or Deleting Files: 1. Choose desired file to Delete, the empty into Trash. (Drag to Trash) 2 Go to Finder Menu Choose empty Trash ( or use Shift-command-Delete) 3 System: Are your sure you wish

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-16 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/12/2010 6:10 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Bug #214675 proposes to delete the Profile Manager. It is being extensively discussed at mozilla.dev.planning. I strongly suggest that any discussion of SeaMonkey impacts -- impacts on either the development or end users of

Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-17 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Windows as of 98 (last I saw close up) works click delete with application and it moves to Wastebasket. Then click on wastebasket and choose from menu item empty. There is no question. once you choose empty its gone. This is wrong. Windows always asks

Re: Can't enter this site w/SM 2.0.2

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: http://www.spruebrothers.com/ Can load the site, but clicking the enter store gets me a parsing error. I can get in with Safari and/or Opera. I assume it's an issue with the site, as I can no longer get into it with SM 1.1.18 either... Works for Me SM 2.0.2 Mac OSX.4.11 --

Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit : Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM 1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an opinion of what 'Form Filler

Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit : On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick. The exact name is Autofill Forms -- sorry for the mistake. Here's the link:

Re: mazdausa.com

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Lou wrote: I got a first one today. When I try to visit www.mazdausa.com with SM 2.0, I get the mobile phone version of the website. If I go with FF, then I get the standard version. I tried switching the user agent via the user agent swither extension to FF/Linux,

Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : Wanted to add a comment no version SM 2.0 but I can't speak French Why don't you post your comment in English, then? From what I can see, the page is all in English, same for the project page. So what is the problem? S. Because the page referred

Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:53:07 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 18 janvier 2010, Lucas Levrel a écrit : On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick

Re: SeaMonkey always starts as a BLANK PAGE

2010-01-18 Thread Phillip Jones
S. Beaulieu wrote: BearKing55 a écrit : SeaMonkey always starts as a BLANK PAGE even though I have preferences set to Home Page and www.Google.com! Are you sure you did, though? I know at some point, I thought SM was having this behaviour until I realised there is a roll-down menu in the

Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip Jones
David Wilkinson wrote: MikeyG wrote: Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno. I

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-22 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 For a newsgroup, i have positioned to Mark As Read Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run Match any of

Possible minor bug

2010-01-22 Thread Phillip Jones
I've just noticed a minor bug I've had to go to several websites (bank and such today - Pay bills - every one has to). I just noticed the padlock remains open even on secure sites Only the the background changes from white to yellow. This is on any https site. The padlock should change

Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-22 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I've just noticed a minor bug I've had to go to several websites (bank and such today - Pay bills - every one has to). I just noticed the padlock remains open even on secure sites Only the the background changes from white to yellow. This is on any https site

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/23/2010 2:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Phillip Jones
chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not have them set for off-line use. Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were useless on newsgroups

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Phillip Jones
Bernard Mercier wrote: Phillip Jones a utilisé son clavier pour écrire : chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not have them set for off-line use. Unless things have

Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Yes it turns out the theme I was using was the fault. which was the Orbit 3+1 2.0 is the fault. Please contact the theme author about that, I'm sure he's happy about bug reports and willing to fix them in further releases

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: NoOp wrote: On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: ... /snip/ Firefox = Fx http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html quote 8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it? Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox

Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: LCARStrek is, indeed, an acquired taste, but I have acquired it, and it works very well. Early Blue is a very nice basic theme. My mother in law really likes it. Heh, nice! Let me know if you spot bugs - it might take me a

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: NoOp wrote: On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: ... /snip/ Firefox = Fx http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html quote 8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it? Only the first letter

Re: EVANG: Hostway

2010-01-26 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/26/2010 10:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: After their latest site redesign, my hosting company's website won't let me login -- unless, of course I use The Other Browser. https://sitecontrol-sp.hostway.com/ Can anyone say what the problem is? W3C validator returns 8

Re: EVANG: Hostway

2010-01-26 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/26/2010 10:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: After their latest site redesign, my hosting company's website won't let me login -- unless, of course I use The Other Browser. https://sitecontrol-sp.hostway.com/ Can anyone say what the problem is? W3C validator returns 8

Re: SM 2.x: Mail Filter keeps getting disabled

2010-01-27 Thread Phillip Jones
Sqwertz wrote: Simple mail filter that looks for a word in the subject of an Inbox and puts it into a named local folder. It keeps getting disabled. If I tick the Enabled box, it works until SM gets shut down, then it unticks itself. I've deleted the filter and re-added it. Same thing. It

SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-27 Thread Phillip Jones
I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme. Well I clicked on the link I had saved. and went back to SailFish Bulletin Board. At first I didn't see any post. So I set to view post in Last

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-27 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme. Well I clicked on the link I had saved. and went back to SailFish Bulletin Board. At first I didn't see any post. So I set

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-28 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme. Well I clicked on the link I had saved. and went back to SailFish Bulletin Board

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-28 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 3:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme. Well I clicked

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-28 Thread Phillip Jones
S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : Its the best theme ever designed by anyone for SM, FF, or TB. What I've always very much disliked about it is the dark colour scheme. I just can't do it. Personally, I'd kill to get a SM version of Simple Green... as of now, I stick with Grey Modern

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 3:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-28 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 3:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-29 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 3:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot

Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned

2010-01-29 Thread Phillip Jones
John Doue wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: snip No I'll let it die. Sailfish has. No sense in beating a dead horse. I think Sailfish is letting the website die. Something must have happen to him because based on my reading his forums One day he was talking about doing updates and the next day

Re: Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups

2010-01-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Eric wrote: This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Any ideas? TIA Eric Is this happening on this server, another

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote: BeeNeR wrote: snip Absolutely. That is just one of the reasons I've used Netscape, Mozilla, and now SeaMonkey. Yes. When did the integration take place? Netscape version 3.0 or so? The first version I used was Netscape 3.0.a.Gold which I had to pay $35.00 Buck

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I don't know that I'd call it conspiracy, but in looking at Firefox, Safari, Camino, Google Chrome, and now SM 2.x there certainly seems to be a vast amount of code sharing/swapping going on... Chrome and Safari share code with each other but

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real estate in a way I wouldn't have considered until I'd

Re: rendering of a page

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Walter wrote: Please have a look at: http://www.dekalbtexas.org/ and note the overlay in several places. Is this a SeaMonkey problem or sorry HTML coding. In viewing the source, it is horribly bloated and I suspect it is there. Thanks. w. According to

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
M wrote: Mike C wrote: I'm sticking with v1.1.18 because of the add ons (mainly RoboForm). I'd be curious to see how many of you are also sticking with v1.1.18 for the time being. Reasons?? I'm sticking with 1.1.18 because I have the choice of using Javascript for mail and newsgroups. I'm

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: NoOp wrote: On 01/30/2010 03:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: »Q« schrieb: Mozilla Messaging inherited a lot of stuff from previous Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird developers, including a security model which hadn't been maintained for years and was no longer usable. And that the JavaScript we had in mailnews was a security problem

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Really? And early versions of Netscape were just simple browsers? I still have both Mosaic and Netscape on disk, including a version of the first Netscape w/support license. I suppose I could pull it out of the archives (shelf) and check it, but I seem to

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Really? And early versions of Netscape were just simple browsers? I still have both Mosaic and Netscape on disk, including a version of the first Netscape w/support license. I suppose I could pull it out of the archives (shelf) and check it, but I seem to

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
»Q« wrote: Innews:7rgdnrrlobixa_nwnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: If they want the silly tabs. Fine. If it makes people giddy using them That's fine as well Just please keep a way to turn the tab nonsense off. You need to satisfy all the users and not

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: No! No! No! No! No tabs in Email/ News that are enough of a PIA in the browser. If they are I want a switch to turn them off. We have never said that we will force you to use tabs at any time, and we don't plan to. Robert Kaiser Just make sure

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Funny how things change. everyone now has to emulate Internet Explorer to keep up. (Not necessarily the way it works under the hood.) Well, one difference is that many people nowdays don't use any desktop email client any more (either they use

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/31/2010 8:09 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Just want to keep making the point not everyone desires tabs. And make sure us people that don't, have the ability to customize the way we want. I may be the only one on the groups that does, but there are most likely unspoken

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:7rgdnrrlobixa_nwnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: If they want the silly tabs. Fine. If it makes people giddy using them That's fine as well Just please keep a way to turn the tab nonsense off. You

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Funny how things change. everyone now has to emulate Internet Explorer to keep up. (Not necessarily the way it works under the hood.) Well, one difference is that many people nowdays don't use any desktop email client any more

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: I have tabs turned off for now. But everything opens in new windows (which is better than tabs.) I'd like for it to re-use the current window. I know on SM 1.1.18 there were certain sites that forced new windows. but most would reuse the same window

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: ...hmmnn...newsgrouping is my biggest reason for wanting an integrated suite - best way to focus on information exchange with my hobbies. I fully agree, and a number of other SeaMonkey users probably do as well, I just wanted to explain why a large number

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Mike C wrote: Mike C wrote: I'm sticking with v1.1.18 because of the add ons (mainly RoboForm). I'd be curious to see how many of you are also sticking with v1.1.18 for the time being. Reasons?? I was hoping this thread would be kind of a polling just to get a handle on the numbers of

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 30/1/2010 22:50, Mike C told the world: I'm sticking with v1.1.18 because of the add ons (mainly RoboForm). I'd be curious to see how many of you are also sticking with v1.1.18 for the time being. Reasons?? I miss exactly *one* thing about 1.1.x:

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 31/1/2010 00:26, Phillip Jones told the world: Anyway it won't fly, everyone's mind is made up. Would be an interesting feature to create an extension that would put it back. But probably wouldn't get approval from the head big-wigs. Personally, I don't

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-01 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 01/31/2010 08:09 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:7rgdnrrlobixa_nwnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: If they want the silly tabs. Fine. If it makes people giddy using them That's fine as well Just please keep a way to turn

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: I have tabs turned off for now. But everything opens in new windows (which is better than tabs.) I'd like for it to re-use the current window. I know on SM 1.1.18 there were certain sites that forced new

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-02-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Its JavaScript not Java. Java is pretty secure now. Actually, Java isn't more secure than JavaScript, it's just that Java isn't used that much any more - and that Java runs in its own binary as a plugin and so it's the Java Runtime developers' job

Re: 1.1.18 or 2.x ?? (curious)

2010-02-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:12:13 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Its JavaScript not Java. Java is pretty secure now. Actually, Java isn't more secure than JavaScript, it's just that Java isn't used that much any more - Really? Perhaps you should tell Google

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/31/2010 12:35 PM, Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I don't understand why people complains about installing SM as a browser-only. If they don't want the mail or the news parts in SM, they can use their

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: /snip/ Phillip, I would be careful about making statements that you cannot backup, it will damage your credibility

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