Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe

2001-04-25 Thread Kyle Zimmer
>From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: [biofuel] unsubscribe >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:14:40 +0100 > >please unsubscribe me from this group, >i was very keen on the fuels side of this newsgroup when i joined, im all >for self sufficiency, and

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread Dana Linscott
In MN quite a few fuel oil tanks for home heating are in home basements since it sometimes gets cold enough to gel fuel oil in the dead of winter. It would seem to me that Biodeisel would be even safer than fuel oil to store indoors. Our group has been looking into converting fuel oil furnaces to

Re: [biofuel] Too many posts? OT posts

2001-04-25 Thread Dana Linscott
We need to cooperate with each other. I have myself been guilty of going off topic on this group. I agree we must limit this. It is simple enough to erase the unneeded and redundant text when replying, as I have done here. It is also a simple matter to include the two letters OT in the subject

[biofuel] Re: more windpower

2001-04-25 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
"Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The rotor of the generator in CLearwater must be at least 30 > feet tall. > > It would turn slowly in low wind. I never tried to find out > who oned it or how much power it generated. But it was > certainly quite. That was the windmill on the St.

[biofuel] Fw: windturbines

2001-04-25 Thread stephen lakios
- Original Message - From: Paul Gipe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: stephen lakios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:34 AM Subject: Re: windturbines yes, some are available. call for info paul At 11:26 AM 4/21/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Are any of the non-operating turbines for

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-25 Thread Biofuels
Sorry, chaps and chapesses, but my original limerick verse was on topic - an aide memoir to the fact that wind power is unreliable/intermittent. But thanks for reminding me of a few more of the verses. I'll revert to my more usual monosyllabic responses, for the future - promise! T Biofuel at Jo

[biofuel] scam?

2001-04-25 Thread stephen lakios
Scam or no, they have been in operation in the Tehachapi wind farms for over ten years producing electricity. They also can be seen in operation at the huge palm springs wind farm. They are used on pleasure boats were space is a premium. Small 300 to 1,500 kw units mounted on a mast. stephen B

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
Dana Linscott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One of our members is also considering using the >glycerine component of BD production as home heating >fuel and so will need to have this type of setup to >keep it liquid. He has no room in his basement for the >tanks and so is planning on building an in

[biofuel] CREST.ORG's new website

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
New Website Offers Clean Energy Data, Facts, Employment Information Just in Time for Energy Crisis, CREST.ORG Launches with Over 3,000 Related Links WASHINGTON, DC, Apr. 23 -/E-Wire/-- Renewable Energy Policy Project (REPP-CREST) announced today the launch of a new resource website for jo

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
"Dick Carlstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >as staunchly as i support freedom, i also support respect for others, and >their rights. this is a discussion list, with albeit broad but well defined >subjects of interest. > >taking up other people's bandwidth with never ending discussions on a >lim

[biofuel] EPA study confirms health threat of fine particulates

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.eenews.net/Greenwire/Backissues/042301gw.htm#5 GreenWire EPA study confirms health threat of fine particulates A U.S. EPA review of new research on the health effects of fine particulates confirms the suspected link between soot and thousands of premature deaths each year, lending mo

Re: [biofuel] need help

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hello David >my name is david, chemical eng. student at state >polytechnic of bandung, indonesia. i'm doing the final >assignment to produce biodiesel. > >thanks for the information keith, i can understand the >answer. the only reason i ask, is just the cost of >pure methanol is expensive. it's

[biofuel] Re: OT posts

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
This seems to be an ongoing argument, on just what is mete for this list and what isn't, with little agreement between those with a broad definition of what pertains to biofuels, full eco- and other context and all, and those who, at their most extreme, want technical input on biodiesel, strai

Re: OT posts,was: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jerry >Hi Todd and All, > I have to go with Todd on this one. I'm about to >have to choose between staying with biofuel and the >gasifacation list I need to join. If the OT, political >on this list stays as bad as it's been I'll have no >choice. > I believe it hurts the biofuel

Re: [biofuel] REFINING VEGETABLE OILS

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi David Welcome back (belatedly) - glad you've got a nice new box. >Steve and others who are interested, > As this has a >little relevance to Biofuel aspects although moving off topic a bit, >further to Steves article dug out this basic ar

High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread Appal Energy
> In MN quite a few fuel oil tanks for home heating are > in home basements since it sometimes gets cold enough > to gel fuel oil in the dead of winter. It would seem > to me that Biodeisel would be even safer than fuel oil > to store indoors. Dana, Bio-d is considerably safer

[biofuel] Warning! Glycerin Combustion

2001-04-25 Thread Appal Energy
To all, We still are looking at binding glycerin with sawdust and using as a boiler fuel. However, we did stumble upon the possibility of acrolein formation as a product of incomplete combustion. Acrolein is absolutely unhealthy and I am positively an idiot for it not having redawned upon me be

Re: [biofuel] uk methanol source

2001-04-25 Thread Stephen Gerry
Check-out Hayes Chemical supplies find them in the yellow pages. Steve Gerry - Original Message - From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 24 April 2001 08:29 Subject: [biofuel] uk methanol source So who can supply Methanol at under £100 inc vat for 205 litres here in the uk? Ian [Non

[biofuel] Please revive the [snip]

2001-04-25 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
Can we please, Please, PLEASE revive the [snip]? Someone quoted the _entire_ digest in #385. -=*TWICE!*=- I have a cable modem and that's even a waste of _my_ bandwidth! Alan -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life.

[biofuel] Termites

2001-04-25 Thread oiledleather
Hi, I just heard that termite produce a lot of methane. Could you use termites to produce methane? Could termites have higher conversion rates? Maybe termites would allow methane to be produced without heat. I'm not a regular biofuel guy, so if I've said something completely ludicrous...

[biofuel] Re: UK Biodiesel tax update

2001-04-25 Thread Biofuels
Dateline Tuesday 24 April This evening, LibDem put forward an amendment to the Finance Bill 2001 to the effect that the tax rate for biodiesel should be reduced by 33p per litre, not 20p per litre, and also made the case for not delaying introduction until April 2002, as proposed by government in

Re: [biofuel] REFINING VEGETABLE OILS

2001-04-25 Thread David Reid
Hi Keith, Thanks for the thoughts. Will have a look at the sites you mention at some stage. Is much better with the new computer. As well as being that much faster it is so nice to have some room on my hard drive and the 128Mb of Ram makes playing around with graphic files that much

Re: [biofuel] REFINING VEGETABLE OILS

2001-04-25 Thread David Reid
Hi Keith, Thanks for the websites re the articles on fat. Dont think this topic can ever really be OT as it is related to health and they are Biofuels although others may regard them as unrelated (depends on your definition and interests I suppose). We are most definitely what we eat

[biofuel] Harold Bate's Methane Powered Car

2001-04-25 Thread Steve Spence
http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/batesmethane.htm Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-25 Thread Bryan Fullerton
Hi Keith, Check this out.. I have 3600 some odd messages UNREAD, 90% of it is from this discussion. I just skim the messages looking for stuff I am interested in and skip the poetry or the latest ongoing argument. I think most who leave are just "overwhelmed". I think they feel they need to r

RE: High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread Greg Yohn
Hi! I tried 50/50 Kersone/New Soy Bean Cooking oil in an oil burner. I would probably go 60/40 kero/oil for regular use. GREG -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:17 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: High Viscosit

Re: High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread David Reid
Hi Greg, Excuse my ignorance but what is Kersone? Is it a brand name or something else? B.r., David I tried 50/50 Kersone/New Soy Bean Cooking oil in an oil burner. I would > probably go 60/40 kero/oil for regular use. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/b

High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread k5farms
Kerosene is Number 1 diesel with winter protection UNTAXED, for home heating and cleaning. Currently selling for $1.75 compared to diesel at $1.43 at my local stations in MIchigan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Greg, > Excuse my ignoranc

glorb pike stealer Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
when problems of import cloud your mind rest your face in a fat behind it's like exercise, not much fun for some, lots of fun for others, but you live longer, and besides, you complain about bandwidth, didn't you send the entire digest with all the offending messages. the central limerick as i se

Re: High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread David Reid
Thanks; hadnt made the connection B.r., David > Kerosene is Number 1 diesel with winter protection UNTAXED, for home > heating and cleaning. Currently selling for $1.75 compared to diesel > at $1.43 at my local stations in MIchigan Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/

Re: High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Paraffin - Original Message - From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: Re: High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil? > Hi Greg, > Excuse my ignorance but what is Kersone? Is

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
those ARE the silliest ones. Ian wrote: > So basically the questions ive raised are a joke Dick? > see 14 15 and 18 > Ian -- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the newes

Re: [biofuel] Too many posts?

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
and only one ad per mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can set your delivery option to "digest". You will still get all > the > posts but all in one e-mail per day. You can skim thru a lot faster > and > delete it quicker. You will not believe how much faster and easier > this way > is. And yo

Re: OT posts,was: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
yes, you do make sense, but i figured it wouldn't go as far as it did, however if we show ourselves as humourless mad cows for diesel we're gonna chase off newbies anyway. i'll try to label my responses ot in the future. jerry dycus wrote: > Hi Todd and All, > I have to go with Todd o

OT web address [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
i wonder if they still run their dial-up bbs, it was rather fast and easy to use, i checked last year end, was able to connect. Keith Addison wrote: > http://www.execpc.com -- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 f

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
how about in sauna heaters, will it make funny noises and smells? -- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the newest stuff on my home site moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] lord

Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
WHAT? afraid of pop culture references? gee, watch some tv, your seriousness is gonna make your neck hurt. Kyle Zimmer wrote: > > i know, that's why i said it was impossible, sorta like don > kornholio. > > ARE YOU THREATENING ME!! aa aa oao aoggog > > aoogoggogoaog

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...even more ot

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
perhaps you can send the whole thing when you remember it to the joke of the day list. Biofuels wrote: > Sorry, chaps and chapesses, but my original limerick verse was on > topic - an > aide memoir to the fact that wind power is unreliable/intermittent. > But thanks for reminding me of a few mor

Re: [biofuel] CREST.ORG's new website

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
i thought you were going really far OT, imagine talking toothpaste in a list like this. Keith Addison wrote: > New Website Offers Clean Energy Data, Facts, Employment Information > Just in Time for Energy Crisis, CREST.ORG Launches with Over 3,000 > Related > Links > > WASHINGTON, DC, Ap

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
i think perhaps that would only apply to treated wood, and wouldn't the additives cause problems with the heater itself? Keith Addison wrote: > Someone suggested to me that the glyc might best be used as a binding > agent to make sawdust pellets for stoves. Todd mentioned mixing it > with sawdus

[biofuel] crude

2001-04-25 Thread stephen lakios
We ran sweet crude from the well to diesel gensets, in S. Arabia. Very little filtering. stephen Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [biofuel] Please revive the [snip]

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
odd that he was making stinky noises in response to bandwidth wasting. "Alan S. Petrillo" wrote: > > Can we please, Please, PLEASE revive the [snip]? > > Someone quoted the _entire_ digest in #385. -=*TWICE!*=- > > I have a cable modem and that's even a waste of _my_ bandwidth! > > > Alan > --

Re: [biofuel] Termites

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
termites do produce a lot of heat, it's for the queen and eggs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I just heard that termite produce a lot of methane. Could you use > termites to produce methane? > > Could termites have higher conversion rates? > > Maybe termites would allow methane to be produ

[biofuel] vehicles

2001-04-25 Thread stephen lakios
If you use diesel fuel for start up, I do not think a "small" amount of glycerine would hurt, in warm weather. The diesel fuel would act as a solvent. But in cold weather I have doubts. If only fuel injectors were at stake, I would'nt worry. They are very easy to take apart and/or rebuild, and onl

Re: [biofuel] do onto others...

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
"Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sorry, chaps and chapesses, but my original limerick verse was on topic - an >aide memoir to the fact that wind power is unreliable/intermittent. >But thanks for reminding me of a few more of the verses. >I'll revert to my more usual monosyllabic responses,

slap Re: High Viscosity Oils in Furnaces: Was Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

2001-04-25 Thread skaar
please don't berate him, he tries, like all of us. David Reid wrote: > Hi Greg, > Excuse my ignorance but what is Kersone? Is it a brand > name or > something else? > B.r., David > > I tried 50/50 Kersone/New Soy Bean Cooking oil in an oil burner. I > would > > probably go 60/40 k

[biofuel] M. Dewolf

2001-04-25 Thread stephen lakios
No it is not, it is a serious problem where ever large amounts of termites exist. They have been mentioned in national geographic, science journal, and many studies. Your problem, You would not be able to raise enough to do anything. Collectivly there are trillions of termites in billions of mound

Re: [biofuel] Termites

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
Most of the methane (about 1,000 millions tons a year) is made by micro-organisms in the mud in wetlands, lakes and sea beds, and termites and ants produce most of the rest, with cows coming next (damn, now we're back to Terry's limerick!). In the growth-decay cycle, something like two-thirds

[biofuel] Bill to boost alternative fuels, cars

2001-04-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.eenews.net/EEDaily/Backissues/042501d.htm Environment & Energy Daily Air Pollution/Transportation Senators float bill to boost alternative fuels, cars A bipartisan band of senators introduced a bill Tuesday to promote the use of alternative fuel vehicles and advanced car technologie