Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Bob Carr
- Original Message - From: Chris Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes Hi Chris, Have you tried the sugar catalyst for yourself yet? Looking forward to reading your

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread John Beale
Looking in Prof Lin's publications, you can see a few references that appear to be about the catalyst. If you are like me and were wondering about the chemistry behind it, then perhaps check out this one: http://snipurl.com/q4no from Journal of Catalysis, 2003. (If you don't have a

Re: [Biofuel] NAIS - a possible plan??

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mary Lynn A couple of weeks ago, I was requested to join a list no2nais4horses although I am not a horse person .. animals in general, yes .. mostly companion animals .. but not specifically horse. Well, they're quite nice but they can be a bit dumb. But Did you ever see a dead donkey? LOL!

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread John Beale
Searching the Des Moines Register website, I found this article: http://snipurl.com/q4m4 Searching the Iowa State University website, I found this article: http://snipurl.com/q4mj It says on the second article that the catalyst is made of calcium and sand, not sugar and sulfuric acid. -John

Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Mark` Cookson
Thanks for that again, are there alot of people makeing biodiesel in the UK? It is something that I have only heard on the news abit. How far are you from completeing your system has it took along time to put together, has your mate got the same system as yours. I know it sounds very nosey of

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Keith, I just had occasion to visit the JTF site to refresh my memory re: reprocessing. (Why? see Water in Recovered Methanol Post) And was flattered to find this quote: For anyone starting out or still in the RD phase of scaling up and tweaking the process to improve quality, disregard

[Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mark Thanks for that again, are there alot of people makeing biodiesel in the UK? There are lots of people making biodiesel in the UK and there have been for years. From Terry de Winne: http://www.biofuels.fsnet.co.uk/bandwagon.htm Allied Biodiesel Industries (UK) The Trade

Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Doug Foskey
For chemical feed, have a look at some of the Medical Infusion Pumps: they will feed up to about 1L/min. The Gemini pumps are now becoming superceeded, so may be worth looking for (These are the ubiquitous Blue box pump that were seen in Hospital scenes on TV). These could be good for injecting

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Keith, Just in case people weren't around during the time the list suffered from the denial of service and mail flooding time let me tell that when we changed servers it was me, Gustl Steiner-Zehender, who called for donations to defray costs not you. I handled the money and saw

[Biofuel] jelly and jellybiofuel question

2006-05-07 Thread Michael Redler
My (future) brother-in-law and I were cleaning his garage and came a cross A LOT of warped dry wall.To my knowledge, dry wall is composed mostly of gypsum, a very soft mineral composed of calcium sulfate dihydrate, with the chemical formula CaSO4ยท2H2O (thank you Wikipedia). We already

Re: [Biofuel] jelly and jellybiofuel question

2006-05-07 Thread pan ruti
Very good project , surely this can work too, as gypsym is better on rather than lime But need experimentar workThanking yousdPannirselvamMichael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My (future) brother-in-law and I were cleaning his garage and came a cross A LOT of warped dry wall.To my

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Hakan Falk
Gustl, You are absolutely right, I remember that you were not alone and you had strong support from me among several other members on the list. I have never heard Keith request or ask for donations, on the contrary, he have always supported the biodiesel community, without asking anything in

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread JJJN
Thank you for the information John it is helpfull now to get reading. Best Jim John Beale wrote: Looking in Prof Lin's publications, you can see a few references that appear to be about the catalyst. If you are like me and were wondering about the chemistry behind it, then perhaps check

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread mark manchester
Hakan, Gustl, Keith, and all, As in a marriage, there's a shaking of the rugs occasionally on a list, where there may even be tears. It's shocking to see good people find such frustration, but it does, and I hope the fresh air is flowing in now. Dear members. How can it be that we are so rough

Re: [Biofuel] jelly and jellybiofuel question

2006-05-07 Thread Bruno M.
a good question from Mike, ( and indeed drywall gypsum is Calcium Sulfate dihydrate ), but not a useful answer from Pani-Very-good-project -surely-this-can-work-too-Ruti, who seams to be not hindered by any knowledge. It I'll not work, it is not because something contains calcium that the

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread Steve Racz
Here is the article online (using snipurl!) http://snipurl.com/q4st If the catalyst is reusable, but only 20 times, what happens then? Can the catalyst be recycled? The details are vague but it seems that this is intentional as it seems Mr. Lin and his colleagues and especially the University

Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Chris Bennett
Bob Carr wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst continuous processes Hi Chris, Have you tried the sugar catalyst for yourself yet? Looking forward to

Re: [Biofuel] Please read

2006-05-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Keith, indeed your story is very enligthening,a little footnot i like to add: The South African government when seeking to establish the "black cantons"came to Canada to learn about Canada's First Nation's reservationsystem... Since it was such a huge "success" in the eyes of

[Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
just received Fritz Poll: Strong U.S. Support for Bombing Iran An Internet poll sponsored by NewsMax.com reveals that Americans are overwhelmingly in favor of the United States undertaking military action to stop Iran's nuclear weapons program. Nearly 60,000 people have taken part in

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Appal Energy
Mark, How can it be that we are so rough on each other sometimes? Humans tend to create their own hell all by themselves. Just because they choose to do so doesn't mean that everyone else should join them in the sulfur pit, or pig pit as the case may be. Perhaps it's unavoidable: No.

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike Hey, I just wanted to put in my $.02 about Steve Spence. I was a member of both wastewatts and 12VDC - both moderated (or owned) by Steve Spence. I invited him to speak at my local section of ASME, of which I chair. He was well received and found to be entertaining by the

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Thankyou Gustl You're right, I didn't think of that. It was a great help at the time. I didn't think of it because I'm sure these guys are talking about the Please support Journey to Forever button on the pages at our website, which takes you to a donations page. I wandered into Infopop a

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi dee hi Todd Yo dee ho Keith, This offlist stuff these folks do here happens especially if anyone mentions Aleks's Foolproof acid-base method, they really hate Aleks, though they've never encountered him in any way. He's at Journey to Forever but they're not, you see. (They hate Todd

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan Gustl, You are absolutely right, I remember that you were not alone and you had strong support from me among several other members on the list. I have never heard Keith request or ask for donations, on the contrary, he have always supported the biodiesel community, without asking

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom Keith, I just had occasion to visit the JTF site to refresh my memory re: reprocessing. (Why? see Water in Recovered Methanol Post) And was flattered to find this quote: For anyone starting out or still in the RD phase of scaling up and tweaking the process to improve quality,

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
And the winner is...we interrupt this program to bring you this important message...oh man, N...but unfortunately yes, we seldom hear the rest of the story (of the story that really matters). Thanks Keith for this post. Mike You're welcome Mike. Nonetheless I hope it doesn't happen

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread Mike McGinness
John, It says the particles are made of sand and calcium. The actual catalysts are attached to the surface of the particle and the active catalyst compound is not described (except to call them mixed oxides). I say catalysts because they mention having both acid and base catalysts on the same

[Biofuel] Get well Hakan,

2006-05-07 Thread Doug Foskey
Hakan, I hope you are feeling better. You are one of the stalwarts of the list. I always look forward to your postings. regards Doug On Monday 08 May 2006 1:08, Hakan Falk wrote: Gustl, You are absolutely right, I remember that you were not alone and you had strong support from me among

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-07 Thread Hakan Falk
Fritz, Have a strong feeling of dejavu and this time I will save the info in a special place. Pre Iraq, I saw similar figures and also some support on this list. Today it is overwhelming negative numbers in support for the Iraq war and approval ratings for the president. Maybe I should frame

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread mark manchester
Todd, thanks for your response. I read you very often and I respect your views SO MUCH, but here, you just look angry. Wait, let me read it again. Oops, I don't know if this changes anything, but we have a gender confusion here that I should rectify. Actually, that brings to mind a funny

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-07 Thread Michael Redler
Maybe the high fructose corn syrup and beef lobby subsidies that makes us the fattest country in the world, also contributes to short term memory loss,an even bigger killer in the US.(BTW) Do you think Steven Colbert stays awake at night, worried that he'll run out of material - even if he

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-07 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hakan, indeed dejea vu, once the propagandamachine works as fine as it does in the US,all out war is'nt far away! The whole polemic about the communist threat BS, it was and is always the migthy US who uses Nukes to intimidate the rest of the world! I dispise them for it and can not help to

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread JJJN
Mike, I think you have hit it on the head, The sugar catalyst is plays the role of the Acid in the two stage reaction but I don't think it will complete a reaction all on its own. And the fact that it is reusable is on its own a benefit but unless times and temps are increase beyond the layman

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-07 Thread robert luis rabello
Fritz Friesinger wrote: Poll: Strong U.S. Support for Bombing Iran I think this illustrates how effective the propaganda machine in the US has become. To a certain extent, insulation from the consequences of our bellicose attitude contributes to the problem. robert luis rabello The

Re: [Biofuel] New Biodiesel Catalyst

2006-05-07 Thread JJJN
Hello Steve, Yea it a bummer to see our think tanks beg, but the bottom line is if they start producing the catalyst for sale, chances are we can buy it, not so different than going to your local chemical supply and buying KOH eh? I think Mr Lin is trying to use his minute in the limelight to

Re: [Biofuel] distilling fuel/reactant ethanol

2006-05-07 Thread bruno
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[Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-07 Thread Ryan Pope
I attempeted to post this last week. Didn't come through due to glitches of some sort. *-*-*-*-*-*-* I made my first small batch last Wednesday, and it turned out OK; I thought it had a little too much soapiness, so I reprocessed it. 100ml methnol, 3.5g NaOH, 1.5hrs, as per directions.

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-07 Thread MK DuPree
Hi Fritz and everyone...polls...hmmm...can anyone tell me more about "NewsMax"? Who owns and controls this website? Fritz, have you asked anyone at NewsMax how this poll was conducted?What are the demographics of this poll?I see on their homepage as of today, Sunday, May 7, just after 7pm

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-07 Thread JJJN
Ryan, You should spend the next evening reading. Not just spots but all of it. Then start at the beginning, this is not for the weak willed you will get an education and have made many many small batches before you come out of the cloud. (as I call it anyway) Its all at the site. But my

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Jason Katie
ok, obviously i touched a bare nerve of which i know nothing about, and apologize for bringing up bad memories. sorry folks. jason - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Manick Harris
Hello Keith, all u DIY members, Keith is only keeping focus on present BD technology. I did not keep focus long time ago and threw away mother liquor without reading up on subject first. When the prof, thecelebrated R.A.Robinson saw zero yield of product, he pulled me up. I was asked to give up

[Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-07 Thread D. Mindock
I think this poll shows how the short term memory of Americans is totally lacking. Also it shows how effective the propaganda machine of BushCo is. In a word, terrorfying. Peace, D. Mindock P.S. We have met the enemy and he is us. Poll: Strong U.S. Support for Bombing Iran An