Mother Nature Belongs at the Bargaining Table
Throwing the nation over the climate cliff will make our current
fiscal challenges look like a minor bump in the road.
by Jill Stein
Published on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 by OtherWords
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/05-8
Extreme Drought
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/12/06-0
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Kyoto Protocol on Life Support
by Stephen Leahy
DURBAN, South Africa - The United States has become the major
stumbling block to progress at the mid point of negotiations over a
new
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> From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Biofuel] Kyoto program `gutted' by Tories - Toronto Star -
> 2007.02.15
> Sent: 16 Feb '07 01:18
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> http://www.thestar.com/News/article/182027
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> Key office that invests in g
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/182027
Key office that invests in green projects in developing countries down
to two staff
February 15, 2007
Allan Woods
Ottawa Bureau
OTTAWA-The Conservative government has gutted a key office set up under
the Kyoto protocol that allows Canadian companies to
I am involved with sophicated analyser equipment for the petrochemical industry and even with their 100's of thousands of dollars worth of analyser equipment they still have laboratories doing tests. As Kieth says, "don't hold your breath"
Besides just flipping a switch takes out all the fun of b
Someone just posted this on another list:
>I would love to buy a complete system to make the B100,
>something idiot proof and as simple as running a washing machine just add
>the soap and out comes B100 ready for the tank, no measuring, titration,
>filtering, washing or checking the PH. Anyone kn
Some pictures here of Kyoto City's biodiesel plant:
http://www.e-revo.jp/new/sisetu-sinnsetu.html
Technology provided by Revo International (Japanese company), plant
built by Hitachi Shipping company (official English name not known).
The plant "can make" 5,000 litres of biodiesel a day.
The co
02, 2005 15:36
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
> Greg, jet fuel could be made from a number of sources such
> as fossil natural gas or coal, or better from renewable
> sources. basically any source of carbon and hydrogen as
> found in num
ng to
cause an increase in the cost of flying.
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 15:47
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Hello Greg and all.
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> Hello Greg and all.
>
> I disagree with some appreciation about the cost of flying because the
fuel
> cost incr
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> Hello Greg and all.
>
> I disagree with some appreciation about the cost of flying because the
fuel
> cost increase th
Sorry about the delay, I been busy with illness and the furnace
installation.
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From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:51
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/
I notice you didn't respond to this - the discussion on your claim
that the end of fossil fuels will mean the end of the fight against
world hunger (below).
You have to do some studying Greg, you've got this all wrong...
So here's a bit more for you.
http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Wee
an AvGas because they have no lead in their
composition,
providing for a more environmentally friendly fuel. Neiva has registered
the name "AvAlc"
(Aviation Alcohol) in Brazil for use of this new fuel.
Regards.
Juan
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I'll snip most of this...
Couple of points: I've never heard anyone but you proposing that we
need to sequester the last 200 years of human carbon emissions.
> >OTOH, I am sure, that there is currently a disturbing
> >trend, that needs to be delt with, be it short term or long term.
>
> D
Best wishes
Keith
An important point which often gets missed is that we are adding to the
atmosphere gases of known properties: they cause the atmosphere to retain
heat.
And, if the atmosphere didn't already contain gases which retain heat,
the Earth would be very much colder than it is.
T
Keith,
It is absolutely clear that many actions should have been taken
yesterday and that it is no excuse for not doing it today. Doing it
tomorrow will be too late to avoid more major disasters.
Yes, I guess that's right... But if we leave it till tomorrow we'll
have to do it anyway. Fur
Sorry for not getting back sooner, it's been a little hectic in the last
couple of days.
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From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:10
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- noth
Rick, world oil discovery crosed production headed down about 1981.
Production must follow discovery, and it won't take too long. Discovery
now runs under 40% of production; most years around 25%.
For any given well and field, production beyond a certain rate reduces
the total amount of oil recov
Hello All ;
>From my understanding of this design, the sealed tank
(biodigester) was sealed so that it could generate the
pressures to inflate the tubes. There was another
(seperate and different) tube wrapped around the tank
to absorb additional heat from the compost pile to
provide heated wat
Keith,
It is absolutely clear that many actions should have been taken yesterday
and that it is no excuse for not doing it today. Doing it tomorrow will be
too late to avoid more major disasters. It is scandalous that US did not
sign Kyoto and that they are not on the forefront of the people/
Rick,
Before the Iraq war, the cushion in oil production was around 2 bn barrels
a day. The war consumed the cushion and ever since, the oil production has
been on the top of what is possible. The failure of getting the expected
higher production from Iraq and instead severe problems of getti
Thanks so much for your response. It address a question I have
been curious about. You say we are at or near the peak of
production of oil. Is that because the amount of oil given the
present reserves can not be extracted faster or is it because it is
not profitable to extract it faste
Thanks so much for your response. It address a question I have been
curious about. You say we are at or near the peak of production of
oil. Is that because the amount of oil given the present reserves can
not be extracted faster or is it because it is not profitable to extract
it faster
Rick,
Interesting, especially since many now realize that we are at, or close to,
the peak of oil production. It is not possible to reach larger levels of
pollution from oil, than the current levels. US who use 25% of the worlds
energy resources, will not have possibility to grow and will pro
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From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 07:29
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
I am keeping the perspective, the carbon was around in one fo
An important point which often gets missed is that we are adding to the
atmosphere gases of known properties: they cause the atmosphere to retain
heat.
And, if the atmosphere didn't already contain gases which retain heat,
the Earth would be very much colder than it is.
There are many secondary
AntiFossil
Mike Krafka USA
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap
> Hello Rick
>
> >Dear Keith,
> >
The good thing is China and Southeast Asia is the people there seem to
like and be happy with small fuel efficient cars and bikes. Chris.
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Thanks for the references and your viewpoint. Both are really helpful.
Rick
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Rick
Dear Keith,
You are right of course. I should study the whole treaty rather
than rely on what I read about it. Also, my thanks to you for
untangling my sentence about Republ
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From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 07:29
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
>
> In one form or another yes, but which form, and for how
I think the problem is not the current levels of consumption but the
change in rate of consumption. China and Southeast Asia are undergoing
a huge increase in their rate of consumption of oil, a rate that in the
long run is unsustainable.How long do you think over half the worlds
popula
Dear Keith,
Thank you. I couldn't remember if it was just bacteria or a
combination of bacteria and termites. I don't follow the sealed
container. How did he renew the material in the container? Was the
pile around the container just to supply heat for the process or was
it fed into th
Dear Keith,
You are right of course. I should study the whole treaty rather
than rely on what I read about it. Also, my thanks to you for
untangling my sentence about Republicans.
Um, sorry, wearing my editor's hat in the wrong place, but I was
tempted by the idea of using spontaneous
-down, centralised, corporatist practices that are inimical to
local economies and the poor. Most of the so-called benefits of
fossil-fuel-based economics go to "the few who have far too much" -
it's just waste, and the costs are horrendous, whether in human terms
or environmental.
Rick,
You did nor read my post about this China-propaganda by US, therefore I
will repeat it.
"140 countries, which is around half the countries in the world and who
represent more than 55% of the pollution with greenhouse gases, have signed
the Kyoto protocol. US with 4+% of world populati
Thank you. I couldn't remember if it was just bacteria or a combination
of bacteria and termites. I don't follow the sealed container. How did
he renew the material in the container? Was the pile around the
container just to supply heat for the process or was it fed into the
container s
You are right of course. I should study the whole treaty rather than
rely on what I read about it. Also, my thanks to you for untangling my
sentence about Republicans.
I may be being a pessimist here but I don't see the world doing much
about global warming in time to stop it's effects.
n hope for is a slowed rate
increase in atmospheric CO2 and other greenhouse gasses.
Greg H.
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From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 19:09
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of c
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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:18
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D) wrote:
Sorry Mike
Actually most CO2 emissions come from Decomposing Plant material.
That is immat
teady state.
> Anthropogenic emissions are above and beyond natural emissions.
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From: "Ken Provost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:31
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age -
From: "John Guttridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- termites CH4-and messing with the natural
orderof things
(snip)
> I was just in Hawaii where they have a huge problem with mo
Dear John,
This is not so wild an idea as you suggest. I remember reading a
few years back about a fellow in France who piled up a huge mound of
waste wood chips and drove a pipe into the center of it.
Jean Pain: France's King of Green Gold
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html
This is not so wild an idea as you suggest. I remember reading a few
years back about a fellow in France who piled up a huge mound of waste
wood chips and drove a pipe into the center of it. As the termites went
to work in the pile as well, I suppose, as bacteria, the methane they
generate
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michael Redler
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
Hi Mark,
You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science"
...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the
On Feb 22, 2005, at 9:32 AM, Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D) wrote:
Sorry Mike
Actually most CO2 emissions come from Decomposing Plant material.
It is amazing what pointing out simple "Off subject" issues in a post
will do.
Decomposing plant material is carbon-neutral, of course, and
therefo
nt: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
Hi Mark,
You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science"
...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our
civilization comes from the bur
nt: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science
Hi Mark,
You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science"
...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our
civilization comes from the bur
imagine whole plants full of farting cows and termites harnessed to
generate the worlds energy!
imagine the smell!
it would have to be constructed in new jersey, it already stinks there
anyway.
on another note:
I was just in Hawaii where they have a huge problem with mongoose, they
were
woods. The bears were here first. I look at all of the trees dying in
Western Montana of pine bark beetle, another natural phenomenon caused
in part by a warmer, dryer climate, and wonder why we don't cut them,
burn them in power plants like the one in Thompson Falls, Montana USA
and recycl
The provided link said CH4 is up to 50x more effective
as a greenhouse gas. The wood the termites eatwill
eventually cycle back as CO2 even as CH4 decomposition
but what fraction of warming would be altered by
lowering the CH4.
As for manage think creatively Bob. Perhaps you would
have to put y
Not to downplay the importance of methane to radiative forcing, but it
has a half-life in the atmoshpere of only a few years, (it oxidises to CO2)
Now the big question: how in the world do you propose to "manage"
termites? I can't even imagine what it means.
Regardless of who wrote:
ht
http://yosemite.epa.gov/OAR/globalwarming.nsf/UniqueKeyLookup/SHSU5BU
M9T/$File/ghg_gwp.pdf
Nice discussion re most aspects.
Since CH4 may be 50 times more effective than CO2 as a
greenhouse gas it seems termite management might be
useful.
It depends what "termite management" turns out to
http://yosemite.epa.gov/OAR/globalwarming.nsf/UniqueKeyLookup/SHSU5BUM9T/$File/ghg_gwp.pdf
Nice discussion re most aspects.
Since CH4 may be 50 times more effective than CO2 as a
greenhouse gas it seems termite management might be
useful.
Kirk
--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> H
"Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science."
"Kyoto is going to be economic suicide.."
Just random thoughts?
It certainly takes a noble man to enlighten us all with these profound, random
thoughts.thoughts that bring to light the foolishness of those that
even DARED belie
g on it's own then it certainly
would be stupid to hasten the problem.Don't you
think?.DB
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:10 AM
Subjec
to
hasten the problem.Don't you
think?.DB
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:10 AM
Subject: [Biofu
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:10 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap
Kyoto is nothing more than a means for the government in power to syphon
from the tax payer billions of dollars for their friends and has very
little
to do with global warming. It al
Hi Mark,
You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science"
...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our civilization comes
from the burning of fossil fuels, here's a little experiment you can do at home.
1.) Get yourself a chain saw and bring it with you into your bathroom
2
Bravo "Info"
AntiFossil
Mike Krafka USA
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Kyoto - a start but far from perfect..was Kyoto-
nothingbut a buch of >
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of >
Aren't you stretching the reality of Kyoto a bit.
What does Kyoto have to do with:
1) Housing 2) congestion 3) bad urban planning 4) po
Kyoto is nothing more than a means for the government in power to syphon
from the tax payer billions of dollars for their friends and has very little
to do with global warming. It also helps those countries that do not have a
Etc etc, while Mark L. Thompson wrote:
Kyoto is based on mostly J
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From: "Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of >
Aren't you stretching the reality of Kyoto a bit.
es forums
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy
Alternative Energy Politics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/
---Original Message---
> From: "Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto
a few quotes for those in denial:
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends on his not understanding it . Upton Sinclair
It is the nature of humans to ignore what is true but uncomfortable, and
accept what is known to be false, but comforting. H L Menke
Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science. Simulations that can't even
predict better than random number generators.
Hockey stick temperature graphs that the author will not even provide
source data or equations for.
Stratospherically temperatures that are running opposite to GW models.
http://
Aren't you stretching the reality of Kyoto a bit.
What does Kyoto have to do with:
1) Housing
2) congestion
3) bad urban planning
4) poverty rate
5) water polluted
Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science. Simulations that can't even
predict better than
Re: "Kyoto is nothing more than a means for the
government in power to syphon from the tax payer
billions of dollars for their friends and has very
little to do with global warming. It also helps those
countries that do not have a supply of fossil to gain
a competitive edge."
I understand your
I don't agree with this at all.
JD2005
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From: "John Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap
> Kyoto is nothing more than a means
Kyoto is nothing more than a means for the government in power to syphon
from the tax payer billions of dollars for their friends and has very little
to do with global warming. It also helps those countries that do not have a
supply of fossil to gain a competitive edge. We are living in the tail e
tendance, you did
>represent those members of this list
>who would have chosen to go, IMHO.
I think we felt that, though we didn't contribute, but did feel I
should report back to the list at least.
Thanks!
Regards
Keith
>AntiFossil
>Mike Krafka USA
> > From: Keith
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Keith Addison> I've been watching all this for 13 years now, well longer,
but in
> 1992 I did a major publishing job at the final, ministerial-level UN
> climate-change conference that preceded the Rio Earth Summit. We
> produced an online (via GreenNet) conference ne
gh we didn't contribute, but did feel I
should report back to the list at least.
Thanks!
Regards
Keith
>AntiFossil
>Mike Krafka USA
> > From: Keith Addison
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:12:45 +0900
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
06:12:45 +0900
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Biofuel] Kyoto...
>
> ... in which prefecture we live and operate Journey to Forever, and
> which has lent its name to the Kyoto Protocol, which finally after
> seven years became official yesterday, 16 February 2005.
>
> Fro
.
AntiFossil
Mike Krafka USA
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From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Kyoto...
> ... in which prefecture we live and operate Journey to Forever, and
>
YAY!!! Thanks for the blow by blow, so exciting, Keith. Dazzling pleasure
to see this. We absorb and assemble...
Cheers, -Jesse
> From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:12:45 +0900
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subj
which has lent its name to the Kyoto Protocol, which finally after
seven years became official yesterday, 16 February 2005.
From the AP coverage at CNN:
The agreement, negotiated in Japan's ancient capital of Kyoto in
1997 and ratified, accepted, approved or assented by 141 nations
includin
Dear BMolloy,
Where George Monbiot said, "...The US is now the only
member of the UN Security Council whose word is
law...".
My comments: The recent Indonesian 9.0 earthquake and
resulting tsunami demonstrated who has the last word
and who is the law. It is not a human, country or
state; but r
Hi All,
The US has again rejected the Kyoto Protocol, this time in at the
Bueno Aires conference. George Monbiot is a media commentator. His views on
the outcome are sobering.
Regards,
Bob.
AMERICA'S WAR WITH ITSELF
By George Monbiot, AlterNet
Posted on December 21, 2004, Printed on Dec
/afp/20041206/sc_afp/argentina_climate_un_041206211720
Yahoo! News -
Kyoto treaty nations call on US, China, India to get on board
Mon Dec 6, 4:17 PM ET
BUENOS AIRES (AFP) - Participants at a UN-sponsored environmental
meeting here lamented the failure by the United States, China and
other k
Russia's Ratification of Kyoto Climate Treaty
'Historic' Says Kofi Annan
By UN Environment Programme
Nov 19, 2004
http://www.enn.com/aff.html?id=204
Formal Handing Over of Accession Papers Made at
Security Council Meeting Event Marks Countdown for
Global Warming Agreement Entering into
Final Step for Kyoto Pact to Take Place at U.N.
By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Nov 17, 2004
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/17/international/europe/17cnd-kyot.html
United Nations officials said that the final step
leading to the enactment of the Kyoto Protocol, the
first treaty restricting heat-trappi
Putin Ratifies Kyoto Protocol
05.11.2004
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/11/05/putinkyoto.shtml
President Vladimir Putin has signed Russiaâs ratification of the
Kyoto Protocol, formally joining the international environmental
pact aiming to limit industrial emissions and thus curb climate
Russian Upper House ratifies Kyoto Protocol
Reuters Moscow,
October 27 2004
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1076414,00050003.htm
Russia's Upper House of Parliament ratified the Kyoto
Protocol on Wednesday, leaving President Vladimir Putin's
signature as the final step to kickstart
on 10/25/04 10:42 AM, john clements at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hello Keith
>
> the Kyoto stuff barely rates in Australia
> the media give it a run and the green groups
> push as hard as they can but we
> remain sceptics.
In other words, you're all as dumb as us
Yanks! Well, that's comfort
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Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto and Australia
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11161650
%255E1702,00.html
The Australian: [October 23, 2004]
'Bad environment policie
%255E1702,00.html
The Australian: [October 23, 2004]
'Bad environment policies continue'
October 23, 2004
THE Federal Government's environmental policies meant a continuation
of the practices which had caused Australia to have the fourth worst
environmental impact of all countries, Greenpea
Thanks Tomas,
Australia
7,686,850 sq km
population 19,913,144
2.59 persons per sq km
USA
9,631,418 sq km
population 293,027,571
30.42 persons per sq km
Hakan
At 03:05 PM 10/22/2004, you wrote:
Autralia is the world's largest coal exporter. Also, their energy
consumption and carbon emissions
Russian Parliament Ratifies Kyoto Protocol
MosNews
22 Oct 2004 18:39 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 18:40 MSK
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/10/22/kyotoratified.shtml
Russiaâs lower house of parliament,
the State Duma ratified the Kyoto Protocol on Friday.
The bill was passed by 334 votes in
Keith,
That is true, but as I understand the official commitment and
position from Australia, they would sign a Kyoto based on per
capita. If their official promises and promises are worth anything,
they will meet Kyoto on a per capita basis and probably on total as
well.
Well, we'll hav
Hakan Falk wrote:
> Keith,
>
> . If you
> could look at your source the area in km2 and population per km2, would be
> interesting numbers also.
>
Hi, CIA publishes a handy book, called world factbook,
where You can find all sorts of da
Keith,
That is true, but as I understand the official commitment and position from
Australia, they would sign a Kyoto based on per capita. If their official
promises and promises are worth anything, they will meet Kyoto on a per
capita basis and probably on total as well. It is by the way not
consumption and carbon emissions are second only to the US on a per
capita basis.
Australia
Population: 19.2 million (0.32% of world total)
Per Capita Gross Domestic Product (GDP): $19,796
Total Energy Consumption: 4.7 quadrillion Btu (1.2% of world total)
Per Capita Energy Consumption: 249.8
I can understand and support the position of Australia on Kyoto, but it is
probably one of a handful of countries were I can do that. They will do
their utmost to reduce greenhouse gases, but will not commit to Kyoto.
Australia is often and especially by the Americans, as a nation that is
co
Australia govt adamant it will not approve Kyoto
By Michelle Nichols
Source: Reuters
22 Oct 2004
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SYD74748.htm
CANBERRA, Oct 22 (Reuters) - As Russia prepares to vote to ratify
the Kyoto protocol and allow the global climate change pact to come
in
Muckraker: Shaken, not yet stirred
Kyoto will shake things up in the U.S.,
whether Americans like it or not
Oct 13, 2004
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17861
Last Thursday, when the Russian cabinet moved to ratify the
Kyoto Protocol, international leaders called it t
Russian Parliament to Ratify Kyoto Oct. 22
14 Oct 2004 14:36 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 14:36 MSK
MosNews
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/10/14/kyotodate.shtml
A key committee of the Russian State Duma recommended Thursday
that it ratify the Kyoto Protocol on climate change on Oct. 22.
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Kyoto protocol is just the beginning
Fred Pearce
06 Oct 2004
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns6494
It has been a long wait since the Kyoto protocol was signed in the
early hours of 11 December 1997. Next year, if Russia sticks to the
commitment it made last week, the t
Thanks for the refs.
However...
>Most flexible fuel equipped vehicles on the road are minivans, SUVs,
>and trucks, NOT cars. These vehicles can burn gasoline or renewable
>ethanol (E85) fuel interchangeably. However their owners are often
>unaware of this capability.
Most trucks are diesels.
Kyoto Commitment Holds Promise for Ethanol
The [Canadian] Prime Minister's recent declaration at the
Johannesburg Summit on Sustainability that he intends to ratify the
Kyoto protocol can only be good news for ethanol. "Support for
ethanol as been building in Ottawa and around the country for
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