Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Gerald Woodward wrote: As stated in earlier emails, different athletes perform differently under different conditions. Some athletes are able to take advantage of tailwinds, ... Wind effects are not something you can train to overcome, and are not something that a

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Richard McCann wrote: Four other key factors that have an influence outside of the athletes control: 1) rounds (have a nonlinear effect) 2) humidity (combined with temperature, also changes atmospheric density) 3) crowd presence and participation (can energize an

t-and-f: miler homestate - keith forman (OR)

the 1963 oregon media guide (interestingly called 'duck dope' in those days) says that sub-4 miler keith forman graduated from cleveland hs in portland g Geoff Thurner Assistant Director/Publications Coordinator

AW: t-and-f: best 40 year old in major championships?

Well, here's the list of the 40+ final major championship participants (Outdoor WC and OG). I've excluded all direct finals (like Marathon, Walking and field disciplines in the early years of the OG) 11.08.2001 WC Ellina Zvereva(11.08.1960) BLR Discus 2nd place 30.09.2000 OG Merlene

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery on reaction time

In a message dated 9/17/02 8:48:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On today's USATF teleconference, Tim Montgomery had this remark regarding his fast reaction time (I think Walt asked this question.) I did ask the question. Like many other laymen, I had taken it on faith that a good

Re: t-and-f: Why???

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, lorenzo hill wrote: we all do it...we just dont get caught...so does that make it wrong? Since we're on the topic of things which damage our sport, why don't we consider the general implications of the above statement?... J.

t-and-f: 2003 NCAA indoor and outdoor regional standards

The 2003 NCAA indoor qualifying standards and outdoor regional qualifying standards were released yesterday. For a complete listing of every standard from each division, visit the Trackshark rankings page below: http://www.trackshark.com/rankings/collegiate_lists.php Thanks, Tom Borish

Re: t-and-f: Webb's Marathon Debut (was Viren article and journalism)

It seems to me that this is another instance of questioning what you read in the press. I doubt that Shorter ever made such a statement. John Lunn Martin J. Dixon wrote: I'd say it was a very foolishly written and/or edited article-note the thread that I was perpetuating. Someone on letsrun

t-and-f: Looking for X-Country Results??

Among other things, I publish X-Country X-Press, which comes out weekly during the fall. I cover the sport on all levels, with the emphasis on collegiate action (Div.I-III, NAIA, JUCO). If you're interested in seeing what subscribers get on a regular basis, drop me a note off-list and I'll add

Re: t-and-f: Webb's Marathon Debut (was Viren article and journalism)

Well jeez, it was in on Philly.com... it must be true! I would be willing to make a small wager to anyone interested that Webb is not running the Phili marathon and that Bill Fleischman doesn't know what he is talking about. Maybe Alan is running the 5k run on the same day, but no way is he

t-and-f: Participation in N.Y. Marathon Down

From: RT Participation in N.Y. Marathon Down By Associated Press September 18, 2002, 8:20 AM EDT NEW YORK -- International applications for the New York City Marathon fell 17 percent this year due to concerns about terrorism, fears of flying and

Re: t-and-f: Why???

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, lorenzo hill wrote: we all do it...we just dont get caught...so does that make it wrong? Since we're on the topic of things which damage our sport, why don't we consider the general implications of the above statement?... What implications? It's no different than

t-and-f: Fwd: Montgomery on reaction time

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Dan, You might remember that, a couple of months ago, I tried, in vain, to post to the tf group, and that something in AOL and my settings was blocking my access. Might I ask you to do me a favor, please. I'd like to post the following to the group,

t-and-f: Thank you note

Netters: Tyanks to all who replied to my question on date and exact site of 2003 Workd meet. Now I just have to wait to see just what date my tounger daughter sets for her upcoming wedding. She's talking about early September and that would really get in the way.

Re: t-and-f: Webb's Marathon Debut (was Viren article and journalism)

It sounded to me like Shorter's quote was in regard to Webb's decision to turn pro. I think the writer has equated turning pro with running marathons and in the process also confused Webb with one of the other debutantes at Chicago. Here is what the article said: Webb is scheduled to make

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

--- Jonas Mureika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wind effects are not something you can train to overcome, and are not something that a proper warmup will help you to avoid. I don't have to go out and determine how each athlete will react differently to them, because I know that they will each

t-and-f: Montgomery vs Khannouchi

Tim Montgomery and Khalid Khannouchi are two Americans who have set world records this year, and their paydays were remarkably close: Tim earned $250,000 prize money for his day's work, while Khalid raked in $255,000. Of course, if you want to pro-rate this over the time spent actually putting

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

A common misassumption made by people who do not understand the physics behind the effects of wind (and altitude, for that matter) on sprint times is that wind significantly effects the drive and acceleration phases. During these phases the force of air resistance is very small compared to the

Re: t-and-f: Thank you note

Your tounger daughter? I could make some deliciously naughty joke outta that, but I'll leave it to people's imaginations and not get myself in trouble... sideshow

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

--- Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A common misassumption made by people who do not understand the physics behind the effects of wind (and altitude, for that matter) on sprint times is that wind significantly effects the drive and acceleration phases. I think you're disagreeing

Re: t-and-f: Thank you note

Too late! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your tounger daughter? I could make some deliciously naughty joke outta that, but I'll leave it to people's imaginations and not get myself in trouble... sideshow

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Dan Kaplan wrote: It's a good thing you are so certain of what you know, otherwise you might feel compelled to question the conclusions... That's what I've been trying to do. Care to explain away the situation I offered where an athlete might alter their drive phase

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

--- Jonas Mureika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said my figures are absolute. If you read any of my papers, you'd see that I am willing to admit limitations. Fair enough. Since we're discussing pulling figures out of the air, I would be interested in hearing how the effects you propose

Re: t-and-f: Thank you note

Your tounger daughter? I could make some deliciously naughty joke outta that, but I'll leave it to people's imaginations and not get myself in trouble... sideshow Eeww ... -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

Dan, This is what I was trying to say in my previous email. I was a tall (6' 3, 206 lb.) sprinter (9.6 sec. 100 yards, 21.3 sec. 220 yards). Because of my height and breadth, I could take more advantage of tailwinds than could some of my shorter and smaller competitors (normally 5' 6 to 5'

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

I'm not objecting so much to comparing performances (I do the same for comparing XC races on the courses around Northern California in the USATF circuit), but rather the emphasis that is put on the comparisons as having sufficient precision to make valid judgements. I think the precision is

t-and-f: Sept 18 NCAA Women's Poll Analysis

Analysis of the 2002 NCAA Division I Women's Cross Country Coaches' Poll by Mike Scott, University of Rhode Island Updated: September 18 For the sixth consecutive year, I am analyzing the Women's Division I Coaches' Poll. Teams are listed according to their ranking in the current edition of

t-and-f: why we have wind rules

to quote my good friend Bob Hersh: William Snoddy. 'nuff said. gh

Re: t-and-f: Correlations and Models and Performance

It may not be scientific but people DO try to compare distance performances. Compare Lopes' dismantling of the best runners of the world in the heat and humidity of LA to the rabbited WR Rotterdam performances with perfect weather. I don't need a slide rule to tell me what was more impressive.

t-and-f: Correlations and Models and Performance

Richard wrote; As another post said, we don't try to make similar comparisons between distance races where varying conditions have substantial influence. Well, for a correlation to be meaningful, it needs to be relatively universal. The nice thing about physical forces such as wind and air

t-and-f: Re: measuring wind effects

At 11:39 AM 9/18/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Wind effects are not something you can train to overcome, and are not something that a proper warmup will help you to avoid. Wrong, just as hill training can help a runner run better on hills (which is another form of resistance training,

Re: t-and-f: Re: Montomgery Gaffney HS

Malmo wrote There were a few more greats from that HS, no? A friend who coaches at a nearby school comments: They've had some decent athletes but not anyone I'd call great like Montgomery. They have a brand new school but their track is asphalt with no lanes, no jumping pits whatsoever...

Re: t-and-f: why we have wind rules

gh, To quote, well, me (from a journal article): Americans Leonard Scott and William Snoddy have posted marks of 9.83s (+7.1m/s) and 9.87s (+11.2m/s) respectively, yet neither has ever run another such remarkable time. Using the corrections for world class races, Snoddy's 9.87s would

RE: t-and-f: why we have wind rules

Another extra thing to consider regarding world records set with wind resistance - is that people that train with overspeed methods are likely to get bigger benefits from a tailwind. I have seen this happen with athletes from my squad. The explanation is the CNS enhancing effects of having

Re: t-and-f: why we have wind rules

Jonas, I don't think anyone is in disagreement that there should be wind limits for what is a record-worthy mark. However, that is an entirely different topic than the accuracy or relevance of the actual conversions, which is what most of this debate has centered around. Furthermore, let me

t-and-f: Typo

Netters: Of course, I meant to wriote younger daughter, Coincidentally, she was at the house tonight to say farewell to her Irish niece who flies back to Erin Friday after a summer working here. For the first time, we actually talked about a wedding date, but all jean would tell us was that

t-and-f: CBA milestone

Netters: Christian Brothers Academy had a sort of milestone yesterday when it won its 248th consecutive dual meet, breaking the all-sport recoid for a NJ HS. (Not an insignificant feat, considering that Passaic HS here still holds an apparently unbreakable national basketball mark of 157

t-and-f: Trevor Graham

Hi Can anyone help me off list with a contact method for Trevor Graham or somehow with his squad. It is reported in our local media that they are considering training in Australia over our summer. regards Steve Bennett www.oztrack.com www.AthleticsTraining.com -Original Message-

t-and-f: Montgomery to Skip World Cup Race

From: RT Montgomery to Skip World Cup Race By Associated Press September 18, 2002, 6:54 PM EDT MADRID, Spain -- Tim Montgomery, still recovering from his world-record run last weekend, will not race in the 100 meters Friday in the World Cup.