On 09.07.2014 20:15, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
In the US, most of these sort of things are markers where people died in
accidents. Wikipedia calls them roadside memorials
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_memorial), and I guess that might be
the most common term in the US.
These exist here
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:07 PM, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you shouldn't merge the *=ice_cream variantes.
People never reached a consensus over which one to use (personally I think
it's compelling to use shop=* instead of amenity=*), and there is another
variant, which
Mateusz Konieczny wrote on 10.07.2014 11:50:
Although since the rules are for josm validation so will be checked by
a human, I guess that's low-risk right?
I thought about JOSM validator rule with fix button, so it would
not be safe to assume that it will be carefully checked (the same type
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I use them like this
amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream
there is a waiter / service
amenity=ice_cream
they sell take away ice cream, but also have at least some tables to sit down
(no service)
shop=ice_cream
you can only buy ice cream (no
On 31/07/2014 09:27, Holger Jeromin wrote:
The voting was performed using the extended North-American
definition - there including fresh water:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/seafood_shop
... and exactly 8 people voted in favour. That's clearly a ringing
endorsement.
Am 31/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:
Therefore, I suggest removing landuse=religion from the wiki, or at least to
mark it as nonsensical.
+1,
Martin
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Didn't JOSM include landuse=religion in the latest version ?
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 31/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:
Therefore, I suggest removing landuse=religion from the wiki, or at
least
Am 31/lug/2014 um 09:21 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
A problem with ice_cream is there's no way to add it to a different shop.
sells:ice_cream=industrial/artisanal/yes
cheers,
Martin
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Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:27 schrieb Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de:
The voting was performed using the extended North-American definition
- there including fresh water:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/seafood_shop
So i see no problem in tagging seafood for every dead
Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:38 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi:
shop:seats=yes/no
shop:waiter/service=yes/no
...Or something along those lines rather than the black magic you outlined
above ;-).
If I understand you correctly you propose to deprecate amenity=pub in favor of
-1
2014-07-31 11:47 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
Am 31/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:
Therefore, I suggest removing landuse=religion from the wiki, or at
least to
mark it as nonsensical.
+1,
Martin
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:38 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi:
shop:seats=yes/no
shop:waiter/service=yes/no
...Or something along those lines rather than the black magic you outlined
above ;-).
If I understand you
2014-07-31 11:02 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:27 schrieb Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de:
The voting was performed using the extended North-American definition
- there including fresh water:
sport=fitness seems to have won:
816sport=fitness
320leisure=fitness_centre
88sport=gym
81leisure=gym
26leisure=fitness
21leisure=gymnasium
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/leisure=fitness_centre/leisure=fitness/sport=fitness
On 31/07/2014 11:54, Andreas Labres wrote:
sport=fitness seems to have won:
Not really, because that might apply to e.g. exercise bars in a park
rather than a gym as such.
Cheers,
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I don't like that seafood includes fresh water fish, and that might make
some misunderstanding among mappers. I'd like a big bold USE THIS TAG FOR
FRESHWATER FISH ALSO over the wiki page.
I like the fishmonger word better, but I understand seafood is an easier
word for non-native english
I don't see a clear winner at all:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fitness_centre
Just as many people try to map it with some variation of
*=fitness_centre/er or *=gym.
sport=fitness on its own can't win, because sport=* is a non-physical
Key. And as I wrote on the talk page I don't
I think a place should be tagged amenity=fast_food depending on the
structure of the place.
From the description on the wiki page: Is for a place concentrating on
very fast counter-only service and take-away food.
It might have tables for seating.
Someone on the Talk page suggested used the
-1 to removing
as well, and I would appreciate a constructive discussion that does not qualify
the thoughts of others as nonsense, as long as they are not clearly malicious.
If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map you
see
the highest density of use in Poland
2014-07-31 14:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org:
If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map
you see
the highest density of use in Poland and Ireland, where apparently a lot of
constellations are in need for such a tag.
Certainly it does not
Am 31.07.2014 06:24, schrieb Friedrich Volkmann:
On 16.07.2014 13:52, John Packer wrote:
I saw on the wiki there was some changes on pages related to religious
landuse.
It seems there is this tag that was documented only recently (but has around
1500 uses, mostly on Europe), and is called
Am 31.07.2014 13:07, schrieb Janko Mihelić:
I don't like that seafood includes fresh water fish, and that might make
some misunderstanding among mappers. I'd like a big bold USE THIS TAG
FOR FRESHWATER FISH ALSO over the wiki page.
I like the fishmonger word better, but I understand seafood
2014-07-31 13:07 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
I don't like that seafood includes fresh water fish, and that might make
some misunderstanding among mappers.
+1
Take this shop for instance (businesses like this are quite common in
Germany and presumably in other countries as
Am 31.07.2014 01:45, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am 30/lug/2014 um 20:42 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com:
There were no objections to following changes:
shop=jewellery (139) - shop=jewelry (13299, documented)
yes there were, this should be BE spelling
shop=bags
If you look at
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map you see
the highest density of use in Poland and Ireland, where apparently a lot of
constellations are in need for such a tag.
As far as I can see from Poland it is mainly the work of one mapper:
We also already have a drink: key and I wanted a food: key anyway for
vending machines. Might also be an option.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drink
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vending-Drinks%26Food
A problem with ice_cream is there's no way to add it to a
2014-07-31 15:06 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
I like the fishmonger word better, but I understand seafood is an easier
word for non-native english speakers.
I am not sure it really is easier for non-natives. Are you a native? I am
not, but back in school we learned
2014-07-31 15:27 GMT+02:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
I use them like this
amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream
there is a waiter / service
amenity=ice_cream
they sell take away ice cream, but also have at least some tables to sit
down (no service)
Do you make any differences on
2014-07-31 15:33 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de:
He put an area around every church maybe 5-15m distance, that's pretty
much it. I admit it really looks like it's typical there to have a fence
sourounding a small area around the church, but do we need a landuse tag
for that,
2014-07-31 15:46 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
Anyway, I think the future of OSM tagging is in editors like iD that
translate tags into native languages
this will level out a lot of fine distinctions and give a lot of power and
responsibility to the preset makers. The main
Am 31.07.2014 15:47, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2014-07-31 15:27 GMT+02:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com
mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
I use them like this
amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream
there is a waiter / service
amenity=ice_cream
they sell
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233316289/history
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233031632/history
They got replaced. But I admit it was less common than I thought. Just
happened to click on one of those.
There is not even one amenity=church_yard or churchyard (the latter
being the
2014-07-31 15:57 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
this will level out a lot of fine distinctions and give a lot of power and
responsibility to the preset makers.
Yes, that's why I think there should be a centralized tag translation, tag
icon, and tag semantic meaning
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
Fishmonger is a word that represents exactly what that tag is. A look at
Wikipedia[1] shows that. Seafood is problematic because of the sea in the
word and because it can mean a restaurant with seafood. I don't understand
As a perhaps helpful example, near my old home in Portland, OR, USA
there was a retreat facility operated by the catholic diocese. It
featured extensive grounds that you might call a park, except that they
were fenced and intended for religious or reflective use, with shrines
and such placed
On 2014-07-31 at 15:47:39 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
bars are another topic ;-)
and a confusing one :)
The only thing you
can be quite sure is that they all offer croissant for breakfast, and
espresso / capuccino / caffè latte, soft drinks and alcoholics.
that's basically it, with
For what it's worth, in the United States the terms bar, tavern, lounge,
and pub are used almost interchangeably. Some imply table service and
general food more than others, but there is no hard rule, and the
situation is further complicated by, for example, bar and grill having
a much
On 31/lug/2014, at 16:58, Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com
wrote:
how do you tag an italian pasticceria? (of the kind that also serves
coffee and read-to-eat pastry, not the laboratori di pasticceria
where you buy things to bring home / elsewhere.
I don't recall,
On 31/lug/2014, at 17:22, Jesse B. Crawford je...@jbcrawford.us wrote:
I suspect that this is going to vary far too much by culture to get
acceptable results out of simply tagging as bar vs pub or whatever might
be proposed.
Yes, getting the fine differences (sometimes it might be
Is this a building completely separate from a hospital? I encounter these
buildings as part of a hospital complex and so include them in an area
tagged with amenity=hospital.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wondering how to tag a 2 story medical
Yes it's separate. It's across the street from a small hospital.
On Jul 31, 2014 3:45 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
Is this a building completely separate from a hospital? I encounter these
buildings as part of a hospital complex and so include them in an area
tagged with
Quite a few bars in the USA don't sell breakfast. Local laws control when they
can be open, which varies from place to place.
On July 31, 2014 8:47:39 AM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-07-31 15:27 GMT+02:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
I use them like this
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