Re: [Tagging] coastline v. water

2020-11-23 Thread David Groom
See comments below: David -- Original Message -- From: "Eric H. Christensen via Tagging" To: "tagging@openstreetmap.org" Cc: "Eric H. Christensen" Sent: 18/11/2020 20:19:51 Subject: [Tagging] coastline v. water After a few days of much work, a recent

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-07 Thread David Groom
n agreed by the OSM community. This modification primarily allows for the continuing improvement of the PGS import without needlessly seeking prior approval in each instance David Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-06 Thread David Groom
o the position of the coastline on 1 January 2020. 2) Any edit which moved the position of the coastline by more than 20Km from the established position should be classed as vandalism, unless such movement had previously been agreed by the community. David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-04 Thread David Dean
a new established usage, how about service=main_access ? Happy to hear everyone's thoughts here, and I hope to get something we can vote on on the wiki soon. - David On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 21:43, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > On 03/08/2020 19.56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Au

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread David Dean
o.eu/s/WGY), and looks like it has been used in that general 'access to facilities on a larger property/campus' sense. For example: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WGZ. - David On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 08:31, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 3. Aug 2020

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-02 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
l.com Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ Le samedi 1 août 2020 17:03, David Marchal a écrit : > To Jan Michel (I did not have your mail, as I unsubscribed of the list mails > to avoid cluttering my mailbox): the goal of my reques

[Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-01 Thread David Dean
service=? (not just service=parking) tagging and start the formal RFC process. Thanks for your feedback, everyone. - David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ Le vendredi 31 juillet 2020 15:53, David Marchal a écrit : > Hello, there. > > I'm wondering, there are destination signs which only apply to some kind of > vehicles: for HGV, for bicycles, for pedestrians, for vehicl

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
using a > destination_sign relation it's best to apply the mode as eg. > bicycle=designated, eg > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11345354#map=18/-33.82573/151.21308 > for https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/VIq-OPTiw0BVI7gqdLR-iA > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 23:55, Davi

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
, without explicitly forbidding them on the other roads. -- Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ Le vendredi 31 juillet 2020 15:59, Paul Johnson a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 8:53 AM David Marchal via Tagging > wrote: > >&g

[Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
Hello, there. I'm wondering, there are destination signs which only apply to some kind of vehicles: for HGV, for bicycles, for pedestrians, for vehicles below 12t… How would I tag such destinations? The simple way would be to use, respectively, destination:hgv=*, destination:bicycle=*, destinat

Re: [Tagging] Tagging forest parcels

2019-10-16 Thread David Marchal
Mateusz, The first thing is that this tagging scheme is mainly used in Poland, so that sounded like a local, not widely approved, tagging scheme. The second thing, which is the real problem to me, is that I don't see how to link these with the forest, as a parcel number is valid only in a given

Re: [Tagging] Tagging forest parcels

2019-10-12 Thread David Marchal
There may be a misunderstanding here: what I mean about forest parcels is a piece of forest which is numbered and whose number is displayed on site, with a plate or a painted text. Such data can be useful for orientation in a forest and, until some years ago, these numbers were displayed on maps

[Tagging] Tagging forest parcels

2019-10-09 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. My question is simple: how do we tag such things? The boundary=forest_compartment relation is not rendered, and what is rendered is tagging as landuse=forest both the forest and its parcels, which leads to rendering it twice, as you can see here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/rel

[Tagging] Multipolygon (several outers) forest with different leaf_types: mapping strategy?

2019-03-13 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I mapped a forest made of several pieces of woodland, some contiguous and some isolated, with differents leaf_types. I mapped this (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9393253) with a landuse=forest multipolygon, with common tags such as name and operator on the relation, and

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

2019-01-22 Thread David Marchal
Paul, Your landuse=forestry proposal seems good to me: it is clear enough, and the transition process you describe here seems consistent with what I know about such transitions which already happened. If I understand you, the main problem for landuse=forestry is to include it in the standard st

[Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

2019-01-20 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. All is in the title: when hiking in a forest (I mean, an area considered as a forest by authorities), I often encounter other landcovers, like scrubs in recently teared down parcels, or scree in the mountains. These area, although, clearly and morphologically, not a forest, are st

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

2018-09-09 Thread David Groom
hese are "coastlines" . David Further west, I moved the administrative boundary off of the coastline of internal waterways, positioning it near the low water line / baseline, because I believe this is closer to the official Indonesian definition for Kabupaten (admin level 6) boundar

[Tagging] Highways going through military camp: access=private or access=military?

2018-08-18 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. All is in the title: when access to a road is restricted to military, as it is running through a base, should I tag it access=private or access=military? The first gives the right restriction, but the second is more precise, although not documented (about 1.8k uses according to t

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway_junction : what about primary, secondary or tertiary ways?

2018-07-12 Thread David Marchal
1 À : Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Objet : Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway_junction : what about primary, secondary or tertiary ways? It is commonly used on non-motorway grade separated junctions. So the answer is yes. Phil (trigpoint) On 12 July 2018 07:34:06 BST, David Marchal wrote:

[Tagging] highway=motorway_junction : what about primary, secondary or tertiary ways?

2018-07-11 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. Is highway=motorway_junction also applicable to non-motorway roads? There are primary, secondary… roads where there are exits, but can these be tagged with this one? Awaiting your answers, Regards. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@op

[Tagging] maxweight=* specified for different axle counts

2018-06-13 Thread David Wang
What is the best way to specify the maximum weight when a sign specifies different weights for different axle counts? The situation in question is here: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/VMM_wbgzcm1jFm_APKhQww For those who cannot see the image, the sign says : WEIGHT LIMIT : 2 axle - 10

Re: [Tagging] 3d-tagging

2018-05-24 Thread David Fox
Which one? Link? There were a few. On 24 May 2018, at 10:05, "Stefan K." wrote: I found a wiki for 3d-tagging, is that a proposal? Can i tag using theses suggestet tags? Unfortunately i could not find a 3d-mailinglist so i thought i mayb try it here. The 3d section in the forum seems not to

[Tagging] Route members: ordered or not

2018-05-03 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I recently worked a bit on hiking routes, and noticed that some routes have unordered members. That's particularly noticeable on waymarkedtrails.org, as it makes the elevation graph rubbish and useless. I read the relation:route wiki page, but there is only advice regarding stops

[Tagging] landuse=forest + ref=* : parcel number or what?

2018-04-04 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I hope this will not start a flamewar: I noticed that, despite being widely used, ref=* is not rendered for landuse=forest. I assumed this was used for parcel (compartment) numbers, as this tag seems to fit the definition of a parcel number; nevertheless, I saw on a Github issue

Re: [Tagging] Road barrier

2017-11-28 Thread David Swarthout
Huh? access=motorcar is for motorhomes? That's not the way I interpreted it. I thought a motorcar was the same as an automobile, like a family car. A motorhome is a large vehicle that's suitable to live in. That's from an American English perspective. Dave Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Sinkholes refinement

2017-11-14 Thread David Marchal
? Awaiting your answers, Regards. Le 12 nov. 2017 à 21:17, Yuri Astrakhan mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com>> a écrit : David, hi, just an thought - could you combine the rationale and examples sections? The way you have it now is first you describe each concept, and afterwards you have th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Sinkholes refinement

2017-11-12 Thread David Marchal
=yes as the one to use, and will create the wiki page accordingly. Thanks to all who voted; the proposal process is now fully finished, apart from creating all the Wiki pages. Regards. Le 24 oct. 2017 à 19:16, David Marchal mailto:pene...@live.fr>> a écrit : Hello, there. The vote period

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Sinkholes refinement

2017-10-24 Thread David Marchal
go back on the proposal page and vote, in the dedicated subsection, amongst karstic=yes or karst=yes. Once the choice will have been asserted, I’ll be able to create the corresponding Wiki page. Thanking you for your patience, and awaiting your votes, Regards. Le 8 oct. 2017 à 09:51, David

Re: [Tagging] Part of forest which is in a scrub state: inside or outside multipolygon?

2017-10-14 Thread David Marchal
It’s a re-forestation area, but the trees have all been teared down, so it’s now scrub, but temporarily. > Le 12 oct. 2017 à 11:20, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > > Is it (permanently) scrub or is it re-forestation area that is temporarily > without trees? > > > > __

[Tagging] Part of forest which is in a scrub state: inside or outside multipolygon?

2017-10-12 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. If a part of a forest has been razed and is now a scrub area, should I let this natural=scrub area in the forest multipolygon? I thought so, as the scrub area is still managed as a section of the whole forest, but another user updated it to exclude the scrub areas from the forest

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Sinkholes refinement

2017-10-08 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. The normal voting duration passed, but there are not enough votes yet to approve or reject the proposal, so I extend the voting period by two weeks to allow latecomers to vote. Awaiting your votes, Reagrds. Le 26 sept. 2017 à 20:26, David Marchal mailto:pene...@live.fr>

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Sinkholes refinement

2017-09-26 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. As this proposal has been RFCed more than 2 weeks ago, and that comments have been addressed, I’m now putting it on vote. Please go on the proposal page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sinkholes_refinement) to vote. Awaiting your votes, Regards. __

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread David Fox
Many company names are trademarked, yet included in OSM. That said, I'm uncertain of any benefits of a 'slogan' tag. On 19 September 2017, at 08:19, Tod Fitch wrote: It is my understanding that corporate slogans are usually trademarked and written permission is required to use or reproduce th

Re: [Tagging] Geological Faults

2017-09-11 Thread David Marchal
Hello. A naive tagging would be natural=fault on a way drawn along the fault, but it’s very naive, as I never mapped anything related. Regards. Le 11 sept. 2017 à 04:29, J.J.Iglesias mailto:jjiglesi...@gmail.com>> a écrit : I am unable to find how to tag geological Faults. Any Idea? Thanks

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sinkholes refinement

2017-09-11 Thread David Marchal
. 2017 à 17:25, David Marchal mailto:pene...@live.fr>> a écrit : Hello, there. I’ve created a proposal for better tagging of sinkholes, as they can be of multiple types, not currently acknowledged by mainstream tagging practices. This proposal can be read here: https://wiki.openstreetm

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sinkholes refinement

2017-09-09 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I’ve created a proposal for better tagging of sinkholes, as they can be of multiple types, not currently acknowledged by mainstream tagging practices. This proposal can be read here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sinkholes_refinement Any comments should be

Re: [Tagging] ferry relations

2017-08-17 Thread David Groom
-- Original Message -- From: "wille" To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Sent: 17/08/2017 16:06:39 Subject: [Tagging] ferry relations Hello! The wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry says that "No relation should be used even if the key route

Re: [Tagging] Discouraging frequency=* on power lines and cables

2017-03-08 Thread David Marchal
> Le 8 mars 2017 à 23:04, Michael Reichert a écrit : > > Please keep OSM simple. I don't want to add a power route relation on > every tiny minor distribution line/cable (230 V). > Totally agree with that. I don’t understand the usage of a relation binding the distribution network elements: th

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-07 Thread David Bannon
en thats not a suitable solution for you. Didn't understand what you mean with "digest approach" ? I thought you mentioned getting the list communications via digest instead of directly receiving what you call spam. If not, sorry for the distraction. David Cheers, Thilo Am 07

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-06 Thread David Bannon
when replying, often seem to forget to change the message title and are not always taken seriously :-) David Am 06.03.2017 um 18:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2017-03-06 17:46 GMT+01:00 Michael Reichert <mailto:naka...@gmx.net>>: Hi Martin and others, Am 2017-03-06 um

Re: [Tagging] Mapping time zones as geometries (relations)

2017-03-06 Thread L. David Baron
of date, in ways that are noticeable when overlaying the data. Apparently the http://efele.net/maps/tz/world/tz_world_ingredients.zip file there has information that could be used to rebuild the shapefiles on top of other sources of data, but I've never attempted to do this

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread David Bannon
Maybe its time someone put a note on the proposal page saying that the author is posting to the list but does not appear to be receiving messages from it ? In case its a language issue, could that message be in German and English perhaps ? David On 06/03/17 05:17, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] How to tag beginning of a river

2017-02-25 Thread David Marchal
> Le 25 févr. 2017 à 12:16, Dave F a écrit : > > Hi Dave > > Won't the first node of the named way that's most upstream indicate its start > point by default? > > What advantages will adding a specific 'it starts here' tag bring? > > Cheers > DaveF I agree with Dave here: the first node in t

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine and vending=public_transport_plans?

2017-02-18 Thread David Bannon
Just about all of these services have their own website. And its someones job to keep the information current ! Please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-09 Thread David Bannon
like laundry=yes|no|fee. David On 08/02/17 20:28, Volker Schmidt wrote: I see on the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site the option shop=laundry This does not seem to be appropriate to map caravan sites that offer self-service coin-operated washing machines

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - dog toilets

2017-01-21 Thread David Bannon
prised if a cat was comfortable using a doggy smelling place. I cannot image any other pet being very keen either. So rather than your 99% dog use, I'd suggest its 100% dog for practical purposes. Anyone's experience different ? David On 20/01/17 19:36, joost schouppe wrote: Hi,

Re: [Tagging] dog toilets

2016-11-09 Thread David Bannon
I would find it very hard to support "potty_area". A potty is a container used by small children during toilet training, what has that got to do with dogs ? David On 10/11/16 01:24, joost schouppe wrote: Hi, Many cities have special little areas which are specifically meant to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-26 Thread David Bannon
. That does sound like wikidata So, I suggest its possible your solution improves a small aspect of a larger problem but just perhaps also makes that larger problem even worse ? David On 26/10/16 02:02, Sven Geggus wrote: Hello, in our localized German map style we try to render Country

Re: [Tagging] Use of oneway=yes on waterways

2016-09-20 Thread David Marchal
Note that, although exceptional, some waterways can flow both ways, according to tidal, floods, if a connected estavelle is absorbing or discharging water... Even if it is unlikely, this tag could be of some use to highlight the fact that the waterway is not subject to such stream variations. F

Re: [Tagging] Help required on tagging a "wadi"

2016-09-05 Thread David Bannon
They have a different history, a different use and a different future. David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Help required on tagging a "wadi"

2016-09-05 Thread David Marchal
I would add that, according to the wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi), waterway=wadi has been deprecated and should be replaced with waterway=stream or waterway=river, anyway with intermittent=yes. Apart from that, I agree with 61sundowner: the track and the waterway

Re: [Tagging] Help required on tagging a "wadi"

2016-09-04 Thread David Bannon
in Oz, its probably pretty wide and may be best mapped as an area rather than a line, that way, the highway way would be more distinguishable. And we need be realistic about their position and accept they move. David Suggestions welcome.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (midwife)

2016-09-03 Thread David Picard
Hi, I removed over specific text about the country. The description of services does not exclude anything (like give birth). Cheers. Le 26/08/2016 00:44, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : sent from a phone Il giorno 25 ago 2016, alle ore 22:46, David Picard ha scritto: So, my

Re: [Tagging] Roads with no speed limits

2016-08-30 Thread David Marchal
AFAIK, no maxspeed value means that the default maximum speed for this type of road in this area applies, so I wouldn't add this tag when there is no sign; that would also fulfill the "Map what's on the ground" principle. Beware that, if there that was a maximum speed sign (hundreds of) kilomete

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (midwife)

2016-08-25 Thread David Picard
, midwives in hospitals/clinics usually wear a pink suit. So, I guess the doctor symbol could be used if changed from red to pink. What do you think ? Cheers, David. Le 23/08/2016 02:02, David Bannon a écrit : David, I am very sorry to only comment after you have gone to the vote, very rude of m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (midwife)

2016-08-22 Thread David Bannon
David, I am very sorry to only comment after you have gone to the vote, very rude of me ! But I have been away, quite remote and very poor internet access, big backlog of unread mail. David, my partner is a midwife but of the "specialist nurse" variety. What concerns us is how thi

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (midwife)

2016-08-22 Thread David Picard
The vote is open for : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (midwife)

2016-08-02 Thread David Picard
OK, I updated the page, using your comments. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife Le 01/08/2016 à 17:13, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2016-08-01 17:03 GMT+02:00 David Picard mailto:dave...@yahoo.fr>>: I think your proposal should be more explicit abo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (midwife)

2016-08-01 Thread David Picard
How about healthcare=midwife ? Le 01/08/2016 17:13, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2016-08-01 17:03 GMT+02:00 David Picard mailto:dave...@yahoo.fr>>: I think your proposal should be more explicit about the actual tagging you propose (key=value, possibly in bol

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (midwife)

2016-08-01 Thread David Picard
Hi, Le 01/08/2016 à 11:15, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2016-07-31 19:21 GMT+02:00 David Picard mailto:dave...@yahoo.fr>>: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife Definition: a midwife practising as a licensed professional in an office I thin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (midwife)

2016-08-01 Thread David Picard
Hi, Le 01/08/2016 à 11:15, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2016-07-31 19:21 GMT+02:00 David Picard mailto:dave...@yahoo.fr>>: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife Definition: a midwife practising as a licensed professional in an office I thin

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (midwife)

2016-07-31 Thread David Picard
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/midwife Definition: a midwife practising as a licensed professional in an office ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Does disused:railway=* require railway=disused?

2016-07-27 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I've been told in a JOSM ticket (https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12866#comment:2) that the wiki states that disused:railway=* requires railway=disused, and, indeed, the wiki says that (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:disused:railway). I don't understand why as, AFAIK

Re: [Tagging] State parks and state forests: specific tagging question, general mapping philosophy

2016-07-26 Thread David Bannon
dering some of the detail found in the database. And make a pretty attractive looking map at the same time. There are lots of other 'consumers' of OSM data. David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists

Re: [Tagging] Mapping pergolas/arbors

2016-05-18 Thread David Swarthout
I would discourage the use of type as a key here as it is used to differentiate between relations. Suggest shelter:type or something similar. Cheers Dave Get Outlook for iOS On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:29 PM -0700, "Mark Bradley" wrote: > From: Martin Koppenhoefer > To: "Tag discus

[Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

2016-03-27 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. At least here, in France, there are numerous regions, whose unity is based either on a common historical background, for example as a medieval county or duchy like the Barrois, or on a uniform natural landscape, as the Bauges mountains or the Mont Blanc massif. These regions are of

[Tagging] How to tag a natural, man-organised feature?

2016-03-26 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I'm wondering: there are tons of natural features that have been modified or organized by humans, like springs which emerge in man-made ponds. Is there a tag used to model this organization, like organised=yes? Awaiting your answers, Regards.

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

2016-03-10 Thread David Marchal
Hello, Abhishek. Nice idea to synthesize all the available stuff regarding navigation data. Not my main interest in OSM, as I've got enough work on my rural, mainly filled by bots area, but still a good idea. Keep it up! Regards. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:33:45 +0530 From: saikia.abhi...@gmail.c

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

2016-03-08 Thread David Bannon
o see if some of the result can be incorporated into the current model, or even a long term transition ? David On 06/03/16 01:25, Alberto wrote: Dear OSM staff, contributors, and users: I have read the definitions, concepts and description that OSM uses to characterize (tag) roads and notic

[Tagging] tributary role in waterway relations: widespread?

2016-02-29 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I wondered: I saw the' tributary' role on some waterway relations; while I understand its usage — to represent the fact that a waterway flows into another —, I would like to know if it is widespread or even widely accepted, if not voted on wiki, as JOSM complains about not knowing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

2016-01-26 Thread David Marchal
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:26:55 +0100 > From: matkoni...@gmail.com > To: pene...@live.fr > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below > a track / wiki votes enforcement > > I think that photo of this object would be useful to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

2016-01-25 Thread David Marchal
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:06:22 +0100 > From: dieterdre...@gmail.com > can you please post a link to the object you think is rendered wrong, not to > the part of the map, e.g. like this: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/350320686 > This is a track, it should likely get a layer tag and a brid

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-25 Thread David Marchal
Damn Hotmail! > From: chris_horm...@gmx.de > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 22:37:07 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and > nutrients from rainfall"? > > On

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-25 Thread David Marchal
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 15:59:24 + > From: ajt1...@gmail.com > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org; tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and > nutrients from rainfall"? > > What does "fen" means to y

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-25 Thread David Marchal
Re-sent message, the first one being misformatted. > From: chris_horm...@gmx.de > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 22:37:07 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and > nutrients from rainfall"? > > On

[Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

2016-01-25 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I've got a tagging problem here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/48.34992/6.15965 A side stream of the Madon river runs in a culvert under the private track, and that makes a glitch by rendering the culvert over the `natural=water/water=river` polygon. I asked on the renderi

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread David Marchal
> From: chris_horm...@gmx.de > There are of course all kind of boundary cases but the typical bog as > common in many parts of northern Europe is rain fed. In German we have > the more specific term 'Regenmoor' which indicates this. Mires fed by > groundwater or water inflow from the outside a

[Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-23 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I tagged some bogs today, and I wondered: why does the wiki restricts bogs to "depressions that receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"? AFAIK, bogs are not necessarily isolated from water streams or bodies. Wikipedia talls about sloping bogs where running water is interc

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrapyards, junkyards

2016-01-21 Thread David Swarthout
As always, these linguistic preferences color every discussion. I use the word junkyard as do most Americans but I settled on scrapyard as a reasonable compromise but YMMV. these conversations tend to go round and round and I am satisfied with what I have.  Sent from Outlook Mobile On Thu, J

[Tagging] Priority over/for oncoming traffic

2016-01-19 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there! How should I model roads on which one traffic way has the priority over the other one, like with the "Priority over/for oncoming traffic" signs the Vienna convention registered (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Road_Signs_and_Signals#Road_signs)? The wiki says no

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcels and national/municipal forest: how to map?

2015-11-27 Thread David Marchal
> From: g...@ir.bbn.com > To: pene...@live.fr > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Forest parcels and national/municipal forest: how to > map? > Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:05:01 -0500 > > > David Marchal wri

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcels and national/municipal forest: how to map?

2015-11-27 Thread David Marchal
> From: g...@ir.bbn.com > To: pene...@live.fr > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Forest parcels and national/municipal forest: how to > map? > Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:05:01 -0500 > > > David Marchal writes: > >> 1) forest parcels:

[Tagging] Forest parcels and national/municipal forest: how to map?

2015-11-25 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I'm wondering how to map 2 things: 1) forest parcels: some people use a boundary relation with boundary=forest_compartment, but this seems mainly used in Eastern Europe, so geographically limited; others map each parcel with landuse=forest and then use ref=* to give the parcel num

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-11 Thread David Earl
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 14:01 Richard Welty wrote: > it's an inevitable consequence of serializing a complex data structure. > we either find ways to deal with it or else we accept limits on what > we can accomplish. > Or we change the way we do it. For example, emitting the relations first woul

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-11 Thread David Earl
n to be similar and are split up purely for convenience of managing other things like bus routes or bridges which run along part of the real object. David On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 12:37 David Earl wrote: > I can see the attraction of this, but I do always worry about gross lack > of backward

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-11 Thread David Earl
s as you go and then look them up as you see ways etc. You have to process the lot first and then go back and to the original task. Again it pretty much mandates a huge database for anything other than a small area. David ___ Tagging mail

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-06 Thread David Marchal
___ > > On 06/11/2015 10:24, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Obviously in places where a road can have multiple equivalent > references (such as the US) route relations perfect sense (as does > figuring out which routes are actually signed on which bits of road) > but in p

[Tagging] Tagging airport approach aid systems

2015-11-05 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I'm trying to map some approach aid systems on a local airport, but I have trouble choosing the correct tags: the wiki mentions aeroway=navigationaid, and navigationaid=* to precise type, but this page has a banner telling to use airmark=beacon, an almost empty page with no instru

[Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory?(done)

2015-10-27 Thread david
Hello again, Thanks a lot to Eric Gillet, John Willis, Warin Mateusz Konieczny, Volker Schmidt, Martin Koppenhoefer for replying me. It has been really helpful to have good practises. Regards David Lopez Villegas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

[Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

2015-10-26 Thread david
Hello, My name is David, and I'm a novel user. I find OpenStreetMap really interesting. My user in OpenStreetMap is dlv3. I'm sourveying my little village. I'm trying to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"(I'm not a english speaker, ¿is this name corre

[Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

2015-10-25 Thread david
Hello, My name is David, and I'm a novel user. I find OpenStreetMap really interesting. My user in OpenStreetMap is dlv3. I'm sourveying my little village. I'm trying to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"(I'm not a english speaker, ¿is this name corre

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-16 Thread David Marchal
> From: g...@ir.bbn.com > To: pene...@live.fr > CC: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:12:55 -0400 > I'm coming into this late, but I think key questions are: > > transmission vs distribution: in the US, this is a big div

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
In fact, this problem leaded me to my question: I noticed some minor lines tagged as power=line, cluttering the Mapnik rendering, so I searched the correct way of modelling them, to see if it was a rendering or modelling issue, and one thing leading to another… Regarding the parting between mino

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
even if some others, as the distribution/transport distinction, isn't modelled. Am I correct? Regards. > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:12:02 +0300 > From: lkyto...@gmail.com > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line > > Da

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-15 Thread David Marchal
Wow, I only asked about using the single line/minor_line distinction; if this one isn't easy at all, what will it be by adding importance or usage, which seems far less obvious than minor_line/line, itself not as obvious as I thought at first? The current disctinction has the advantage it can be

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-14 Thread David Marchal
Indeed, mappers aren't supposed to know everything, neither the recommended modelling nor the technical details of power lines, but the landscape criteria seems simple enough to allow them to understand it if they are informed about it; besides, even if they are not aware of it, experienced mapp

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-14 Thread David Marchal
Do you mean that the landscape impact criteria is already the one used to distinguish minor_line and line? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:26:26 +0200 From: dieterdre...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line I agree that additional details like

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-14 Thread David Marchal
, the stylesheet guys made a logical choice, why not adopting the same? Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:48:58 +0200 From: fl.infosrese...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line (Sent from a phone) Hi David, Many opinion exists regarding the minor or not

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

2015-10-13 Thread David Marchal
Well, I thought underground lines was to be tagged as `power=line`; besides, I thought like you at first, but I've been told on the help.openstreetmap.org link that the distribution/transmission parting should not be taken into primary consideration, maybe because the difference is not obvious f

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