[talk-ph] no uturn on a dual-carriageway, how?

2010-06-17 Thread maning sambale
This spot: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.589184mlon=121.071306zoom=18layers=B000FTF allows you to take left and right turns but not u-turns According to this document, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions relation turn restrictions should have 3 members (from, to, via)

Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-06-17 Thread maning sambale
UPDATE. Only two islands from the top ten need some coasty coastline love. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections Anyone working on Negros and Mainland Mindanao? On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:49 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: yes,

Re: [talk-ph] GPS on a Vespa PX150 (Fwd: talk-ph post from carlos.tir...@gmail.com requires approval)

2010-06-17 Thread Carlos Tirona
Oops. Sorry. Thanks for the heads up, Maning! On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:51 AM, maning sambale wrote: @ carlos, we have limited space for messages in the talk-ph list. Forwarding your message to the list. I like the old looks of vespa. :) Subject: GPS on a Vespa PX150 Just want to share:

Re: [talk-ph] no uturn on a dual-carriageway, how?

2010-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
There should be one via: the bit of road connecting the to and from. So Lanuza should be split here. No need to add nodes as via. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: This spot:

Re: [talk-ph] no uturn on a dual-carriageway, how?

2010-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Maning, BTW, only_left_turn means just that: you can only turn left from the from road. Which means that you can't even go straight! So the two only_left_turn relations at the Lanuza-Ortigas intersection is wrong. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [talk-ph] Help

2010-06-17 Thread Bart Bartolome
I should say weekly in my case, but most of the time I update if I am going out the next day. I also update when I've made any changes. On Wednesday, 16 June, 2010 10:29 AM, maning sambale wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com wrote: You should expect

Re: [talk-ph] Ortigas Avenue ext, Cainta map errors

2010-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I think Rally can make sense of this since he probably passes by this area fairly frequently. :-) On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote: hi all, been testing routing in Cainta and noticed errors... Ortigas Avenue extension, from the foot of Rosario

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
That's great! It's a useful way to present OSM and it demonstrates growing popularity I fully agree. I think we should ask them if we even can name them on the OpenStreetMap web site as reference case (and we might kindly ask them at the same time to put the attribution somemore in the

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tim McNamara wrote: [stuff about scope of share-alike] [stuff about whether a share-alike or an attribution-only licence is better] Hello Tim; you are new here, I think (and welcome!). There is a bit of prior discussion on this. About five years' worth, in fact. :) If you'd like to look

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Weait wrote: Sent: 16 June 2010 8:42 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 16 June 2010 6:22 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data Hi, Frank Sautter wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Interesting, they seem to have their own rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Tobias Knerr
16.06.2010 18:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: it might be OK or not, but generally we explain in our wiki how we like to be attributed in the web-context, that is supplying cc-by-sa linked to creative commons and Openstreetmap, not too difficult, is it? Apparently it is counter-intuitive at

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
So I've had phone and email chats with stephen wolfram about everything they're doing because incidentally I had an internship there a decade ago. They love OSM. What's good is we're at a nice tipping point with many who want to use OSM and help it succeed but are having trouble figuring out

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: There is a slight contradiction here though because the other thing I hear a lot is they'd like to try something with us but keep it quiet - i.e. try something small, but that's extremely hard with an open community. I find

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-17 Thread Nic Roets
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: There is a slight contradiction here though because the other thing I hear a lot is they'd like to try something with us but keep it quiet - i.e. try

[OSM-talk] Removing ways in Potlatch

2010-06-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
While updating the streets in my neighborhood (mostly correcting misaligned TIGER imports to match Yahoo's aerial views), I found a short street that needs to be removed from the map. It has been closed to traffic for decades, and the pavement has now been removed and replaced by a commercial

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing ways in Potlatch

2010-06-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
shift+backspace/delete. This is to prevent you hitting delete and deleting the way accidentally. Shaun On 17 Jun 2010, at 22:34, John F. Eldredge wrote: While updating the streets in my neighborhood (mostly correcting misaligned TIGER imports to match Yahoo's aerial views), I found a short

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing ways in Potlatch

2010-06-17 Thread Alex S.
John F. Eldredge wrote: How can I remove this short and no-longer-existing street using Potlatch? Some would like to see it kept and marked historical, but deleting ways in Potlatch is easy: select the way, then select an end node and delete until all way nodes are gone (shared nodes in

[OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Steve, They would like to link to us directly but don't think a) we can handle the load and b) don't think it would be a good user experience to dump people on to osm.org, what with the site design. To paraphrase (not specifically Wolfram, but the unnamed other megacorps you're chatting

[OSM-talk] Fwd: XAPI returns multiple versions of objects

2010-06-17 Thread David C.
[ sent from wrong account first time.. apologies if this shows up twice ] I'm finding that XAPI is returning multiple versions of the same object (nodes and ways at least) which is makes it impossible to use osmosis to create geometries, and prevents the creation of keys in the simple postGIS

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
I think you're concentrating on tiles, but that's not really the bottleneck I would jump on first. The conversation goes like this: steve we have 300 million people a day look at our site and we would like to send their edits and feedback to OSM Really it's the API we're talking about. Tiles

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
Well let me take that back a bit - actually even doing some very simple cleanup of the interface and having a feedback mechanism *at all* would be a good first step, as people jumped on my recent OGD post in the comments: http://opengeodata.org/the-importance-of-timing-to-feedback On

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
OTRS? On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:30 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Well let me take that back a bit - actually even doing some very simple cleanup of the interface and having a feedback mechanism *at all* would be a good first step, as people jumped on my recent OGD post in the comments:

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Anthony wrote: OTRS? huh? On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:30 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Well let me take that back a bit - actually even doing some very simple cleanup of the interface and having a feedback mechanism *at all* would be a good first

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ian Dees
Do we really have the mapping capacity (in person-hours and server hardware) to handle 300M people a day providing feedback? I mean we could point people to openstreetbugs, but it's already full up because people are more interested in mapping the areas they are interested in, not necessarily

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ian Dees
OTRS = http://otrs.org/ (Open Source Ticket Request System) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:50 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Anthony wrote: OTRS? huh? On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:30 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Well let me take that back a bit -

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:55 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Do we really have the mapping capacity (in person-hours and server hardware) to handle 300M people a day providing feedback? that's kind of the point lets say you were a very large firm and you wanted to scale OSM to that level, how would you do

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 June 2010 11:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: But the sad thing is it applies for much lower numbers too - if you wanted to scale to 1 million / day editors let's say. I'm wondering if bulk uploaders are already hitting these kinds of numbers, lets assume the bulk unloaders all went

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:50 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Anthony wrote: OTRS? huh? Does anyone think it would be a good idea to set up OTRS for OSM? If your question was what OTRS is, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=otrs It's the system that Wikimedia uses

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
I think we can do better http://customer.otrs.org/otrs/customer.pl is a horrible interface. I'd like something that works like uservoice.com but is integrated in to the rails port (because tom says so). I actually think we should go with uservoice.com, it's all set up and would take 5

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:50 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Anthony wrote: OTRS? huh? Does anyone think it would be a good idea to set up OTRS for OSM? If your question was what OTRS is,

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:12 PM, John Smith wrote: On 18 June 2010 11:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: But the sad thing is it applies for much lower numbers too - if you wanted to scale to 1 million / day editors let's say. I'm wondering if bulk uploaders are already hitting these kinds

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I think we can do better Well then, feel free. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Anthony wrote: I'd expect the company sending all that feedback at us to

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:31 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I think we can do better http://customer.otrs.org/otrs/customer.pl is a horrible interface. I'd like something that works like uservoice.combut is integrated in to the rails port (because tom says so). I actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ben Last
Just to chime in on the topic... On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: To paraphrase (not specifically Wolfram, but the unnamed other megacorps you're chatting with): 1. they'd like to link to us directly but our infrastrucutre is too weak; 2. they would not want to give us a

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I think we can do better Well then, feel free. that's a valid point but a nauseatingly pithy one when overused in response to simple comments. Yeah that's Fredericks point:

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:31 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I think we can do better http://customer.otrs.org/otrs/customer.pl is a horrible interface. I'd like something that works like uservoice.com but is integrated in to

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Ben Last wrote: Just to chime in on the topic... On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: To paraphrase (not specifically Wolfram, but the unnamed other megacorps you're chatting with): 1. they'd like to link to us directly but our infrastrucutre

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ben Last
On 18 June 2010 11:49, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: That's super interesting though - can you give a deep feel for what the volume and content of those emails is? Generally hey, my street's not in the right suburb, or hey, why isn't my street shown?, or How come your address search

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Ben Last wrote: On 18 June 2010 11:49, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: That's super interesting though - can you give a deep feel for what the volume and content of those emails is? Generally hey, my street's not in the right suburb well at least this one

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ben Last
On 18 June 2010 12:19, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Ben Last wrote: Generally hey, my street's not in the right suburb well at least this one is what I want to capture, super simply, and have a queue to be fixed. Right now we don't capture it _at all_ and

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Ben Last wrote: On 18 June 2010 12:19, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Ben Last wrote: Generally hey, my street's not in the right suburb well at least this one is what I want to capture, super simply, and have a queue to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:46 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: that's a matter of opinion, any reasonable person I've ever met would prefer uservoice to trac or otrs or whatever. For what? From a glance at the two, OTRS and uservoice don't even seem to be in the same category. The two

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Anthony wrote: Anyway, if your point in this thread is just defending yourself against what you see as an attack from Frederick, feel free to ignore this. But if you'd like some ideas on how to create a system to allow OSM users to easily get feedback quickly

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Ben Last
On 18 June 2010 12:32, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Ben Last wrote: Well, fixing it isn't trivial, since there may be a bunch of reasons why it's wrong (or it may not actually be wrong!). We could store these and forward to OSM, but as has been mentioned,

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:40 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Anthony wrote: Anyway, if your point in this thread is just defending yourself against what you see as an attack from Frederick, feel free to ignore this. But if you'd like some ideas on how to

[OSM-talk] timezones

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
random question that came up on IRC - are the timezones mapped in OSM? Steve stevecoast.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Ben Last wrote: On 18 June 2010 12:32, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Ben Last wrote: Well, fixing it isn't trivial, since there may be a bunch of reasons why it's wrong (or it may not actually be wrong!). We could store these

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread SteveC
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:47 PM, Anthony wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:40 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Anthony wrote: Anyway, if your point in this thread is just defending yourself against what you see as an attack from Frederick, feel free to

Re: [OSM-talk] Big sponsors (was: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data)

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:54 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: OTRS is a horrible system, whereas uservoice is easypeasy. From whose perspective? Send an email, wait 3 minutes and 42 seconds, receive a response that your issue has been resolved and thanking you for your report. That's my

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Henderson
On 17/06/10 15:48, John Smith wrote: I knew someone had brought it up in the past, but I'm wondering if we could map it as an area rather than a line? Arguably the best approach would be to mark the wilderness area as such, and perhaps show any tracks stopping at the boundaries. Others may

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 15:59, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 17/06/10 15:48, John Smith wrote: I knew someone had brought it up in the past, but I'm wondering if we could map it as an area rather than a line? Arguably the best approach would be to mark the wilderness area as such, and

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010, you wrote: 3. Examples: Beaudesert Drumley Street http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/774393256 or: Hay Airport http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/774393252 * Completely new site; BoM data lists WMO:id which doesn't occur in any

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread Richard Colless
Do you have any suggestions on how contours should be marked? eg every 10m elevation, or 5 or 50 or ... ? In regard to contours, the maps from Contours Australia work really well. For Garmin devices, they can be downloaded concurrently with OSM maps. I have been using them in this way

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread Tom Brennan
On 17/06/2010 11:30 AM, John Smith wrote: On Thu, June 17, 2010 4:27 pm, tom.bren...@ampcapital.com wrote: Do you have any suggestions on how contours should be marked? eg every 10m elevation, or 5 or 50 or ... ? Depends on the scale of the map. 1:25000 maps are typically rendered with 10m or

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread Tom Brennan
On 17/06/2010 3:46 PM, John Henderson wrote: I may have raised this issue in the past. Walking tracks are never signposted or otherwise marked through declared wilderness areas. This includes some sections of the Australian Alps Walking Track. Maps should not show tracks in those specific

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 22:38, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: In regard to contours, the maps from Contours Australia work really well. For Garmin devices, they can be downloaded concurrently with OSM maps. I have been using them in this way in my Etrex for about 6 months now. I've imported

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 23:08, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote: Depends on the scale of the map. 1:25000 maps are typically rendered with 10m or 20m contours. Every 5th or 10th contour should be in bold. I'm used to mapnik zoom levels, I'll have to figure out what 1:25000 represents, although

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread Tom Brennan
On 17/06/2010 11:25 PM, John Smith wrote: navigation are: - tracks - render as dashed black line Can you put this in OSM terms? What do you mean by OSM terms (I'm a bit of a newbie) something like highway=track, grade=3 ? OK - highway=path - dashed black line - highway=track+car=no - long

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 June 2010 00:18, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote: No they haven't. Area is approx lat=-33.9753lon=150.1336 but it's not a great area to start with. Geographic items are difficult to map without good quality aerial photography, which we don't have for that area (Kanangra).

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Henderson
On 17/06/10 23:13, Tom Brennan wrote: Not always true. For example, from the Plan of Management for Kanangra Boyd National Park Existing walking tracks on the Kanangra Tops within the wilderness (as indicated on the map on the central pages of this plan) will be retained and managed to

[talk-au] Fwd: [transit-developers] NSW Public Transport changes license terms to CC-BY-SA

2010-06-17 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
Pro: Stop/Station/Wharf locations in compatible licence Con: Licence not compatible with OSM for very much longer : -- Forwarded message -- From: Noam Ben Haim noa...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:09 AM Subject: [transit-developers] NSW Public Transport changes license

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-17 Thread Ben Kelley
From a local govt point of view these are different to both rural and residential. Normally the lot size would be too small to make a living from. A hobby farm could have a rural zoning. - Ben. Sent from my HTC -Original Message- From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Sent:

[talk-au] Natural Earth Data

2010-06-17 Thread Ben Last
Anyone know if this has any relationship to OSM (i.e, is partly derived from OSM, or has been used as a basis for OSM)? http://www.naturalearthdata.com/ Cheers b -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread John Smith
I've started building up some map layers, so far I have a base layer, as well as shifting contours to their own layer, but only for select areas due to lack of hdd space, so far only Bris and Syd. http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17ll=-26.372,152.838layer=BFFFTFF From there I plan to start

Re: [talk-au] Natural Earth Data

2010-06-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool, No idea about the legals. ... it looks like it's Public Domain... But i think it does help with the GroundTruthPlanet Contour Garmin Maps than im making :) As well as serves as the good grid for the WikiMAP Books that im working on. Great Find, Cheers, Sam On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:24

Re: [Talk-br] Alteração de tipo de vias nas margin ais

2010-06-17 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
bem, pode-se utilizar a tag maxspeed em aplicações de roteamento tb... Me preocupo com a questão estética - em níveis de zomm médio, fica meio esquisito uma trunk colada numa motorway... 2010/6/17 Diogo W Nunes diogownunes2...@yahoo.com.br: Olá Pessoal, Como sabem, estou envolvido no projeto

Re: [Talk-br] Alteração de tipo de vias nas margi nais

2010-06-17 Thread Vitor George
Eu acredito que tanto a expressa como a central deveriam ser mapeadas como motorway, porque elas tem capacidade similar. Creio que em muitos pontos elas tem o mesmo número de faixas e velocidade iguais. Ja a local eu tenho dúvida entre trunk e primary, porque tem uma capacidade bem menor do que as

[Talk-br] Eventos comunitários no FISL

2010-06-17 Thread Samuel Vale
Olá pessoal, O FISL está chegando, alguns de nós já confirmaram presença no evento e já enviamos uma palestra sobre o projeto. Se alguém tiver alguma ideia pra um evento comunitário do projeto durante o FISL, a hora é essa:

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich eine Litfaßsäule?

2010-06-17 Thread bkmap
Philip Gillißen schrieb: Hallo zusammen! Da Litfaßsäulen einen guten Orientierungspunkt bieten, wollte ich diese auch in der Karte erfassen. Nur finde ich leider keine Information dazu in dieser Liste oder im Wiki. Wäre schon, wenn mir einer einen Tipp dazu geben könnte. Hallo, ich

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich eine Litfaßsäule?

2010-06-17 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 17.06.2010 08:54, schrieb bkmap: ich denke eine Litfaßsäule kann man nach dem vorgeschlagenen Schema in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Proposed_features/information erfassen, wenn man es etwas erweitert. z.B.: information=board board_type=advertising_column oder

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Mittwoch 16 Juni 2010, 21:45:55 schrieb Martin Simon: Das gute ist eigentlich, daß die Leute, die path so verwenden (für neutrale Pfade in Wald und Flur) eigentlich nichts falsch machen, da diese Verwendung auch von path abgedeckt ist. Leider gibt es fuer Untergruende so derartig viele

[Talk-de] sprachnavi-tipp

2010-06-17 Thread o...@tappenbeck.net
hi ! es soll ein navi mit sprache beschafft werden - die routenführung des garmin gpsmap kommt nicht so gut an. kann einer von euch eines empfehlen was später vielleicht auch mit osm genutzt werden kann - am besten wäre die nutzung des gelieferten systems und von osm in einer installation

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hallo, zwei Fragen hätte ich noch: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:28:02PM +0200, Thomas Ineichen wrote: http://access.t-i.ch/ benutzte Farben: blau: Radweg türkis: Radfahrstreifen grün: Radfahren erlaubt hellgrün: Tempo 30 Inwiefern ist die Angabe von Tempo 30 relevant für's

Re: [Talk-de] sprachnavi-tipp - ergänzung

2010-06-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 17.06.2010 10:24, schrieb o...@tappenbeck.net: hi ! es soll ein navi mit sprache beschafft werden - die routenführung des garmin gpsmap kommt nicht so gut an. kann einer von euch eines empfehlen was später vielleicht auch mit osm genutzt werden kann - am besten wäre die nutzung des

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich eine Litfaßsäule?

2010-06-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Jedenfalls ist es angeraten, kein amenity dafür zu nehmen, weil man so z.B. auch Kombinationen mit Toilettentags bauen kann. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-17 Thread Christian
Sebastian Hohmann schrieb: Martin Simon schrieb: Am 16. Juni 2010 00:15 schrieb Sebastian Hohmann m...@s-hohmann.de: Thomas Ineichen schrieb: Ich kenne Fahrradstrassen nicht, aber laut Internet[1] dürfen andere Fahrzeuge dort erst fahren, wenn sie explizit erlaubt sind.

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 17. Juni 2010 10:13 schrieb Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org: Momentan ist also ein Trampelpfad im Wald, auf dem man (im Sommer) theoretisch auch mit nem Fahrrad durch kann nicht zu unterscheiden von einem asphaltierten Weg, der vielleicht kein blaues Schild bekommen hat aber dennoch ein prima

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Christian chr_bra...@gmx.de wrote: Es wird z.B. highway=path/cycleway bicycle=designated vorgeschlagen.So würde normale ausgewiesene Radwege taggen. Damit ist mir der Unterschied zur Fahrradstraße nicht vorhanden. Das nur über traffic_sign zu regeln finde ich nicht schön. Nein das ist

Re: [Talk-de] sprachnavi-tipp

2010-06-17 Thread Sven Geggus
o...@tappenbeck.net o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: kann einer von euch eines empfehlen was später vielleicht auch mit osm genutzt werden kann - am besten wäre die nutzung des gelieferten systems und von osm in einer installation (umschaltmöglichkeit). Derzeit sind AFAIK die Navigationsgeräte

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich eine Litfaßsäule?

2010-06-17 Thread Christian H. Bruhn
Guten Tag Ulf Lamping, am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 um 09:25 schrieben Sie: Das finde ich jetzt nicht so gut. Ich würde eigentlich schon gerne einen klaren Unterschied zwischen touristischen Informationen und einfacher Werbung haben. Zitat: Der Schlüssel tourism=information beschreibt

Re: [Talk-de] University of Giessen: diploma thesis

2010-06-17 Thread Christian H. Bruhn
Guten Tag Andrea Hecker, am Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2010 um 22:37 schrieben Sie: My name is Andrea Hecker and I am a student at the Justus-Liebig- University of Giessen/ Germany. I am currently writing on my diploma Lernt man da kein Deutsch? Christzian

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich eine Litfaßsäule?

2010-06-17 Thread bkmap
Meine Idee wäre sowas wie: advertising=column (oder auch advertising=advertising_column) bzw.für Plakatwände advertising=board (oder auch advertising=billboard) Hört sich gut an. Wäre dann ein neues Tag, das man auch für ähnliche Objekte benutzen kann. Denkbar wäre dann auch solche

Re: [Talk-de] sprachnavi-tipp - ergänzung

2010-06-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:49:50AM +0200, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: hi ! ich erweitere meine frage noch einmal... es gibt ja verschiedene software für das routing auf den sprachgesteuerten geräten - navit etc. Navit ist von der routenberechnung noch meilenweit von den ergebnissen der Garmin

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Andreas, Inwiefern ist die Angabe von Tempo 30 relevant für's Fahrradfahren. Weil es sich in einer Tempo-30-Zone im Allgemeinen angenehmer fährt? (Hier in der Schweiz kommt Tempo 30 fast ausschliesslich als Zone vor; in Deutschland gibt es hingegen auch Primaries, welche mit '30' be-

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:01:26PM +0200, Thomas Ineichen wrote: Weil es sich in einer Tempo-30-Zone im Allgemeinen angenehmer fährt? (Hier in der Schweiz kommt Tempo 30 fast ausschliesslich als Zone vor; in Deutschland gibt es hingegen auch Primaries, welche mit '30' be- schildert sind.

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Simon
Am 17. Juni 2010 11:02 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de: living_street war IMo ein Unfall. Das sind in 99,9% der Falle ganz normale residential Roads mit speziellen Verkehrsvorschriften. Auch hier wäre es IMO besser gewesen einen speziellen Zusatztag zu erfinden. +1 Genau wie

Re: [Talk-de] sprachnavi-tipp - ergänzung

2010-06-17 Thread Lars Lingner
Am 17.06.2010 11:40, schrieb Florian Lohoff: [...] Insgesamt empfinde ich Navit als reichlich tot auch wenn es die am weitest gediehene Navi loesung ist ... Letzte Woche auf dem Linuxtag habe ich einen anderen Eindruck gewonnen. Ich selber nutze Navit bisher nicht, aber das forgeführte

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-17 Thread Detlev Zundel
Hallo, Jochen Topf schrieb: Wenn man zweimal das gleiche Schild anklickt, ist es 2mal in der Auswahl. Das könntest Du noch abfangen. Eigentlich hatte ich das schon, aber offenbar ist das durch eine Änderung wieder ausgehebelt worden. Wäre es nicht sinnvoll, das Anclicken als

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Simon
Am 17. Juni 2010 10:13 schrieb Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org: Am Mittwoch 16 Juni 2010, 21:45:55 schrieb Martin Simon: Das gute ist eigentlich, daß die Leute, die path so verwenden (für neutrale Pfade in Wald und Flur) eigentlich nichts falsch machen, da diese Verwendung auch von path abgedeckt

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 17 Juni 2010, 13:09:53 schrieb Martin Simon: Als Nutzer der Daten interessiert mich doch primaer, wo ich mit z.B. Fahrrad mit Anhaenger fahren kann. Bisher habe ich da beim Mappen die (oft nicht vorhandenen) Schilder nur sekundaer genutzt und primaer auf die Nutzbarkeit

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-17 Thread Sebastian Hohmann
Detlev Zundel schrieb: Hallo, Jochen Topf schrieb: Wenn man zweimal das gleiche Schild anklickt, ist es 2mal in der Auswahl. Das könntest Du noch abfangen. Eigentlich hatte ich das schon, aber offenbar ist das durch eine Änderung wieder ausgehebelt worden. Wäre es nicht sinnvoll, das

Re: [Talk-de] University of Giessen: diploma thesis

2010-06-17 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Ist man irgendwie unnormal, wenn man nicht versteht, was das eigentlich mit OSM zu tun haben soll? Alex ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] University of Giessen: diploma thesis

2010-06-17 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 17.06.2010 14:15, Alexander Matheisen wrote: Ist man irgendwie unnormal, wenn man nicht versteht, was das eigentlich mit OSM zu tun haben soll? Alex Es scheint Personen zu geben, die nicht wissen was Spam ist, und meinen zu schreiben ist kein Spam würde ausreichen damit es kein

Re: [Talk-de] University of Giessen: diploma thesis

2010-06-17 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Donnerstag, den 17.06.2010, 14:31 +0200 schrieb Felix Hartmann: On 17.06.2010 14:15, Alexander Matheisen wrote: Ist man irgendwie unnormal, wenn man nicht versteht, was das eigentlich mit OSM zu tun haben soll? Alex Es scheint Personen zu geben, die nicht wissen was Spam

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread bkmap
Hallo, nur gut, dass es immer wieder mal ein Thema gibt, bei dem man eine highway=cycleway oder higway=path - Diskussion lostreten kann. Es gab Abstimmungen und es gibt Wiki-Seiten dazu. Aber trotzdem hier mal meine Meinung: Momentan ist also ein Trampelpfad im Wald, auf dem man (im Sommer)

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich eine Litfaßsäule?

2010-06-17 Thread rotb
Meine Idee wäre sowas wie: advertising=column (oder auch advertising=advertising_column) In Düsseldorf schon vielfach so gemapt, da insbesondere interessant wegen der Kunst obendrauf. Passt auch zu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertising_column. Allerdings haben die Düsseldorfer

Re: [Talk-de] University of Giessen: diploma thesis

2010-06-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Alexander Matheisen alexandermathei...@ish.de wrote: Irgendwie wirkte es mir zu logisch für Spam Spam zeichnet sich nicht durch logisch oder unlogisch aus. Spam ist für mich eine umgangssprachliche Bezeichnung für UBE und genau darum handelt es sich offensichtlich:

Re: [Talk-de] sprachnavi-tipp - ergänzung

2010-06-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote: Insgesamt empfinde ich Navit als reichlich tot auch wenn es die am weitest gediehene Navi loesung ist ... Die hatten auf dem Linuxtag einen Stand. Sah eigentlich ganz lebendig aus. Sven -- Der wichtigste Aspekt, den Sie vor der Entscheidung für ein Open

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-17 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Moin Jetzt sehe ich mit grossem Schrecken, dass neue Wege in Wald und Flur irgendwie grundsaetzlich als path getagged sind, in der Karte ist alles nur noch schwarz gestrichelt und ich weiss gar nicht mehr wo man was darf. Hier hab ich noch den Lokal-Bonus dass ich mir sicher bin dass ich alle

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