[Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations

2012-07-24 Thread Jo
Hi, I mapped all the PT going through my city during the past years. There are many common parts to these itineraries and it's cumbersome to have to mend them one by one on a regular basis. It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to

Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations

2012-07-24 Thread Mike N
On 7/24/2012 6:38 AM, Jo wrote: It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to the next and then be able to use these relations in the actual route relations. This would enable to map deviations for longer lasting road works as well.

Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations

2012-07-24 Thread fly
On 24/07/12 13:19, Mike N wrote: On 7/24/2012 6:38 AM, Jo wrote: It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to the next and then be able to use these relations in the actual route relations. This would enable to map deviations for

Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations

2012-07-24 Thread Mike N
On 7/24/2012 10:32 AM, Jo wrote: Well, to be honest, I had hoped that everybody who is doing PT would have been screaming for this by now. It's a message on talk-fr by somebody who wants to start doing this for cycle route relations that triggered me into proposing it yet again. I have proposed

[talk-ph] NSO's DATOS shapefiles

2012-07-24 Thread ゴー・ニコライ
(To the moderator, please remove the earlier message pending in moderation where I mistakenly attached a file instead of sending a link. Thanks) Hi list. I've been handed some shapefiles which didn't come with projections, and was told they're from the DATOS kit of NSO. I've been trying find out

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De Lijn

2012-07-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
In Roeselare vallen naar mijn weten geen lijnen weg, maar wordt er wel op minder tijdstippen bediend. Over het kaart genereren, dat hangt er van af wat voor soort kaart je wil: + zoombaar/panbaar of niet + automatisch updatend of niet + online beschikbaar of gewoon door te sturen via mail Ik

[OSM-legal-talk] License question: odbl use case

2012-07-24 Thread Juergen Kurzmann
Hi, with your help, I'll try to answer my own question posted (in full length) here: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/14449/license-question-odbl-use-case I'd first like to mention that my customers, by now, are actively contributing to OSM and we absolutely want to stick to this spirit

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, The currently accepted wisdom is that there exists a separate channel, apart from copyright, in which database right persists no matter what copyright license is used. This means that *if* somebody took lots and lots of CC-BY-SA-published OSM maps and reverse-engineered them into a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 24.07.2012 18:01, Tadeusz Knapik wrote: Do you state that ODbL license is equal to a patent when it comes to protect the data (apart from being 'free and open')? No, I mentioned the patent as an example of non-copyright IP that persists even through a CC-BY-SA chain where it is not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, Do you state that ODbL license is equal to a patent when it comes to protect the data (apart from being 'free and open')? No, I mentioned the patent as an example of non-copyright IP that persists even through a CC-BY-SA chain where it is not mentioned at all. So, in my understanding

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/24/2012 08:19 PM, Tadeusz Knapik wrote: Hello, ODbL has an attribution requirement. This lets you know where the original database is from, and your responsibilities should you recreate part of it. Should you recreate part of the original database, you know your responsibilities due

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, ODbL has an attribution requirement. This lets you know where the original database is from, and your responsibilities should you recreate part of it. Should you recreate part of the original database, you know your responsibilities due to the link to the license from the attribution.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, doesn't order him to attribute OSM, he uses my product). And then another one will use this last map to retrace the whole area into his CC-By-SA map. Where is the point of breaking ODbL license? You have to maintain attribution under BY-SA, so OSM has to be attributed at each point

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/24/2012 10:01 PM, Tadeusz Knapik wrote: Hello, doesn't order him to attribute OSM, he uses my product). And then another one will use this last map to retrace the whole area into his CC-By-SA map. Where is the point of breaking ODbL license? You have to maintain attribution under BY-SA,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, instead of CC-By-SA, and in which case? What determines which actions are permitted, and which are not, and which license's rights are stronger? Each license covers the material that it covers. mountain tops - so it's not just 'tiles from and ODbL map'), it would have to create

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Norman
From: Rob Myers [mailto:r...@robmyers.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work BY-SA doesn't cover databases though (any potential changes in 4.0 notwithstanding). It's important to note that this is only true where databases (like OSM) are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread vegard
What about editor facebook support for editors? :) No, I'm actually serious - Vegard Engen mapped insert changeset comment here, near a place in the changeset. ? Of course with a few links in the post that appears on facebook. - Vegard On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 08:25:45PM -0700, Mikel Maron

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 23 July 2012 18:39, Graham Stewart (GrahamS) gra...@dalmuti.net wrote: How great would it be to add details of a way or feature while you are stood right next to it? I was doing this today, with Vespucci. Ian. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread Graham Stewart
Vespucci does look interesting. Does it let you add a way just by walking it? The screenshots suggest you have to walk it then examine the GPS trace and manually draw the way in top of it. Sadly its Android-only - so no good for my iPhone or for Blackberry and WinMo users. The iD project looks

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread Jo
I wouldn't want Vespucci to draw a way based on a GPS trace. It does one better: The GPS trace is drawn as a blue line and in the background it provides Bing tiles (or map tiles, if you'd prefer those). So a way can be drawn based on a GPS trace combined with aerial imagery. OK, it's not

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread Joseph Reeves
Vegard Engen mapped insert changeset comment here, near a place in the changeset. ? According to the wiki [0] that exists already: https://apps.facebook.com/osmpinboard/ I've not tried it, however, and get an error telling me that the app doesn't support https browsing - which I think is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread sabas88
2012/7/24 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com [cut]. My interest is still in building out social features http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773 On social part, I was thinking that the Events listed on the wiki should also go into the main site. Following your ideas, an Events near you

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
vegard wrote: What about editor facebook support for editors? :) No, I'm actually serious - Vegard Engen mapped insert changeset comment here, near . ? Potlatch 1 actually did that with Twitter. But then Twitter started requiring OAuth and I really couldn't be bothered to code an OAuth

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-24 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
I checked the terms for the Google Maps API and noticed that the collection of data, as done by the tool, is forbidden. Does anyone know of any other services which could provide reference distances? - Svavar Kjarrval On 23/07/12 21:42, Pieren wrote: I've not checked the tool in details but if

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 7/24/2012 2:59 PM, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: Does anyone know of any other services which could provide reference distances? Does anyone have a pre-redaction planet that could have an OSRM instance created? I would think

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-24 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Clodmade's (most!(!)) current data is from last December. Close enough? Dunno if you can query their API on the distance, so u gotta check that out. I just got a response from them the other day asking about when it will be updated and the response was that their engineers are assigned to other

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-24 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
On 24/07/12 19:04, Mike N wrote: On 7/24/2012 2:59 PM, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: Does anyone know of any other services which could provide reference distances? Does anyone have a pre-redaction planet that could have an OSRM instance created? I would think that this would not violate the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work

2012-07-24 Thread Rob Myers
On 07/24/2012 08:51 PM, Tadeusz Knapik wrote: Hello, ODbL has an attribution requirement. This lets you know where the original database is from, and your responsibilities should you recreate part of it. Should you recreate part of the original database, you know your responsibilities due to

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Norman
Minor update: I am now running three times a day. Exact upload times depend on runtime which is largely a factor of dev server speed. Errors points are definitely going down. Many thanks for David Groom for both hosting the visualization and for often fixing errors before I can get to them, even

[OSM-talk-nl] hulp bij revert changeset nodig

2012-07-24 Thread Minko
Hallo, In een poging de residential landuse van Deurne te herstellen is er iets goed fout gegaan waardoor er een aantal fietspaden zijn vernield en over het hele dorp zijn uitgestrooid. Kan iemand mijn changesets weer terugzetten of uitleggen hoe dat moet?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] hulp bij revert changeset nodig

2012-07-24 Thread Oliver Heesakkers
Op di 24 jul 2012 23:16:34 schreef Minko: Hallo, In een poging de residential landuse van Deurne te herstellen is er iets goed fout gegaan waardoor er een aantal fietspaden zijn vernield en over het hele dorp zijn uitgestrooid. Kan iemand mijn changesets weer terugzetten of uitleggen hoe

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] hulp bij revert changeset nodig

2012-07-24 Thread Minko
Bedankt Oliver, Draai 12476086 ook helemaal terug dan teken ik de bebeouwde kom maar opnieuw in Zie http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/6332489 Deze nodes waren ook onderdeel van fietspaden en die zijn helemaal verstoord door mijn edits: 286886874 (ook onderdeel van weg 26200440) 286886861

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] hulp bij revert changeset nodig

2012-07-24 Thread Oliver Heesakkers
OK, de landuse=residential blijft dan dus 'gebroken' achter, maar ik begrijp dat dat het resultaat was van de redactie. Ook 12476086 is nu teruggedraaid Op wo 25 jul 2012 00:05:08 schreef Minko: Bedankt Oliver, Draai 12476086 ook helemaal terug dan teken ik de bebeouwde kom maar opnieuw in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] hulp bij revert changeset nodig

2012-07-24 Thread Minko
Klopt, weg 6332489 moet eigenlijk gedelete worden en de landuse helemaal opnieuw ingetekend. Ik had niet in de gaten dat die weg 6332489 aan allemaal fietspaden geplakt zat en daardoor is het dus fout gegaan. Bedankt! - Oorspronkelijk bericht - OK, de landuse=residential blijft dan

[talk-au] Redaction recovery

2012-07-24 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi All I can give assistance retracing roads from bing concentrating on motorways and primary roads - I've made a start in South Sydney. Let me know if there's anywhere more urgent. I map mostly in Birmingham UK wher we're now pretty complete and are mostly tracing buildings from bing and

Re: [talk-au] Redaction recovery

2012-07-24 Thread Michael Hampson
Hi Brian, Good have you on board Brian. Take a look at the Hume Hwy and M5 motorway if you get a chance. Both head south west out of Sydney. Regards, Michael On 24/07/2012 8:23 PM, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi All I can give assistance retracing roads from bing concentrating on motorways and

Re: [talk-au] How to find missing bits?

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Bennett
Thanks - looks like I'm not on enough lists. It also looks like Godzilla ate Bendigo. http://osm.org/go/uG3Hnzs Steve On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Now that the

Re: [talk-au] Redaction recovery

2012-07-24 Thread Simon Poole
They should both be OK, with the exception of a minor hickup along the way (which may also be fixed in the mean time), what does nead work are the last 200k or so of the Paific Highway in to Brisbane. In any case I would wait till OSRM has been updated (9:00 CEST tomorrow) it makes it far

[talk-au] LTUAE

2012-07-24 Thread John Inkson
Hi from another newbie By way of introduction I have been mapping only for a few weeks. Based in the Northern Beaches area of Sydney. Heard about OSM on a forum I belong to and took a look. Have played around a bit extracting data from the map and making my own routable map for the gps. I

Re: [talk-au] LTUAE

2012-07-24 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:02 PM, John Inkson jink...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi from another newbie Hey John, great to have you on board :-) For your questions on relations, the holy bible is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations. Copying other existing relations as a start may seem

[talk-au] Establishing Priorities on the Central Coast

2012-07-24 Thread Paul HAYDON
Hi Ben, I'd really like to establish those (re-)mapping tasks, but lack the experience with OSM to lead it. Would you fancy collaborating? I think someone with your experience would be invaluable. My suggestion would be as follows: 1. Coastline (I think mostly okay) 2. Water bodies (already

Re: [talk-au] LTUAE

2012-07-24 Thread Ian Sergeant
But for metroad 10 for example, there were 2 x relations for metroad ten. I expected they were for north and south bound routes as that is the way they appeared to be listed in some other areas I checked so that is what I have done. Put one relation for north and the other for south. If

Re: [talk-au] Establishing Priorities on the Central Coast

2012-07-24 Thread Michael Hampson
Paul, I'll do a little bit around Woy Woy when I visit in a few weeks. Let me know if there is anything specific you need looked at. Regards, Michael On 25/07/2012 3:49 AM, Paul HAYDON wrote: SO, any takers interested in getting organised on the N.S.W. Central Coast? (For arguement's

Re: [talk-au] LTUAE

2012-07-24 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, If someone is going through the Lane Cove tunnel / Gore Hill junctions, or the Eastern Distributor / Harbour Tunnel junctions. There is a bit of complex topology here that is pretty essentially for getting our through routing right again. Ian. On 25 July 2012 08:55, Michael Hampson

Re: [Talk-br] Finalmente, dados da SPTrans abertos!

2012-07-24 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Que massa! Poderia comentar um pouco como foi o processo para conseguir ter acesso aos dados? Eu adoraria poder fazer o mesmo aqui no Rio de Janeiro. []s 2012/7/24 vitor vitor.geo...@gmail.com Pessoal, Conseguimos abrir os dados da SPTrans! Os arquivos contém as coordenadas das paradas de

Re: [Talk-br] Finalmente, dados da SPTrans abertos!

2012-07-24 Thread Arlindo Pereira
O Rio de Janeiro tem não só informação dos pontos como também das linhas, pois elas já constaram no Google Maps. Recentemente elas foram retiradas, não sei o motivo. Aqui o governo tem também informações sobre construções da cidade, que são os bloquinhos que aparecem em níveis altos de zoom e que

Re: [Talk-br] Imobiliaria

2012-07-24 Thread Pedro Geaquinto
Também surgiram umas dúvidas aqui. Qual tag utilizar para guaritas/quiosques policiais e para garagens de ônibus? Em 6 de junho de 2012 21:31, vitor vitor.geo...@gmail.com escreveu: Oi Eduardo, Segundo o Taginfo, as pessoas estão utilizando as tags * 'shop=estate_agent'* e

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer OSMI-Layer fuer Lizenzwechsel-Resultate

2012-07-24 Thread Andre Hinrichs
Moin! Klasse tool! Vielen Dank! Nun habe ich noch ein weiteres Problem: Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass es für die Autobahnen A39 und A7 (andere habe ich nun nicht geprüft) eine route-Relation gab. Die scheinen jedoch jetzt verschwunden. Kann ich irgendwie noch feststellen, ob die im Rahmen des

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread Stefan Keller
Hallo Werner Interessant, was du da in deinem Mail vom 24. Juli 2012 00:38 schreibst. Letztlich sagst du damit, dass jedes OSM Objekt identifiziert oder zumindest verfolgt werden kann, wenn man vom ihm 1. die OSM ID(?), 2. die Version und 3. das Change-Datum (aus der Historie) verwaltet, oder?

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Am 23.07.2012 23:41, schrieb Stefan Keller: Hallo Henning Am 23. Juli 2012 18:45 schrieb aighes o...@aighes.de: Am 23.07.2012 17:41, schrieb Stefan Keller: Kannst du mal ein konkretes Beispielszenario nennen, wo das so ist? Siehe oben den Link zur Bushaltestelle in meiner Antwort

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer OSMI-Layer fuer Lizenzwechsel-Resultate

2012-07-24 Thread Markus
Hallo Frederik, neuen OSMI-Layer Super! Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] LKW Mautinformationen

2012-07-24 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Am 23.07.2012 22:32, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Euer Ja/Nein-Gemisch finde ich nicht gut ueberlegt: Eine Autobahn kostet Maut, wenn sie in Deutschland ist und nicht explizit als mautfrei getaggt ist, oder wenn sie in einem anderen Land ist und explizit als mautpflichtig getaggt ist. Eine

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer OSMI-Layer fuer Lizenzwechsel-Resultate

2012-07-24 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, auch von mir vielen Dank! Am 24.07.2012 08:11, schrieb Andre Hinrichs: Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass es für die Autobahnen A39 und A7 eine route-Relation gab. Kann ich irgendwie noch feststellen, ob die im Rahmen des Redaction-Prozesses gelöscht wurde oder schon vorher nicht (mehr)

Re: [Talk-de] Vorschlag Supersedes

2012-07-24 Thread Stefan Tiran
Hallo, Manuel Reimer wrote: Stefan Tiran wrote: Ein neuer Vorschlag: Wie wäre es damit, es so wie im Usenet zu machen? Wenn ein Objekt durch ein anderes ersetzt wird, auf das neue einen supersedes-Tag setzen, der als Wert die alte Objekt-ID hält. Das löst nicht das Problem Node wird durch

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread aighes
Am 24.07.2012 09:56, schrieb Stefan Keller: Letztlich sagst du damit, dass jedes OSM Objekt identifiziert oder zumindest verfolgt werden kann, wenn man vom ihm 1. die OSM ID(?), 2. die Version und 3. das Change-Datum (aus der Historie) verwaltet, oder? Nein...du kannst mit ID und Datum immer das

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread Manuel Reimer
Stefan Keller wrote: Folgendes fehlt in deiner Zusammenfassung: Mit der OSM-IDs ist die Gefahr grösser als mit der UUID, dass das Projekt das Objekt verliert (da es einer gelöscht und mit denselben Tags neu erstellt hat). Wenn jemand das Objekt ändert, dann muss das Projekt so oder so

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread Manuel Reimer
aighes wrote: Folgendes fehlt in deiner Zusammenfassung: Mit der OSM-IDs ist die Gefahr grösser als mit der UUID, dass das Projekt das Objekt verliert (da es einer gelöscht und mit denselben Tags neu erstellt hat). Wenn jemand das Objekt ändert, dann muss das Projekt so oder so überprüfen. Daher

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread Manuel Reimer
Roland Olbricht wrote: Wenn doch jede Sehenswürdigkeit genug Material für eine Webseite hat (Foto und/oder Text reicht), dann mache am besten diese als Webseiten zugänglich (z.B. mit Basisurl + UUID als URL aus der Datenbank) und trage die URL als url=... oder website=... ein. Dann sieht jeder

Re: [Talk-de] Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!

2012-07-24 Thread Manuel Reimer
Stefan Keller wrote: * Bisher haben wir von externen Datenbanken gesprochen - also Mehrzahl: Gehört so eine externe Datenbank nicht eigentlich zur OSM Infrastruktur? Nicht, wenn der Betreiber der externen DB ganz bewusst verhindern will, dass jemand seine Daten ändert. In meinem Fall eben

Re: [Talk-de] LKW Mautinformationen

2012-07-24 Thread Jimmy_K
Am 24.07.2012 00:00, schrieb aighes: Hallo Frederik, meiner Meinung nach ist die Maut eine Eigenschaft der Straße und sollte daher auch an der Straße getaggt werden und nicht an einer Routenrelation. Für eine Auswertung wäre es auch deutlich einfacher, wenn die Wege (in irgendeiner Form)

[Talk-de] Kartenauswertung erweitert

2012-07-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
HI ! aufgrund der Hinweise habe ich die Auswertung verbessert Großkraftwerk Mannheim (Kohle): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152506744 = http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1019lat=49.44126lon=8.49607zoom=14layers=BTTTlang=de Wasserkraftwerk

[Talk-de] Kartenauswertung verbessert

2012-07-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
HI ! aufgrund der Hinweise habe ich die Auswertung verbessert Großkraftwerk Mannheim (Kohle): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152506744 = http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1019lat=49.44126lon=8.49607zoom=14layers=BTTTlang=de Wasserkraftwerk

[Talk-de] Kartenauswertung erweitert

2012-07-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
HI ! aufgrund der Hinweise habe ich die Auswertung verbessert Großkraftwerk Mannheim (Kohle): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152506744 = http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1019lat=49.44126lon=8.49607zoom=14layers=BTTTlang=de Wasserkraftwerk

[Talk-de] 3-fach hällt besser ...

2012-07-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! bevor ich wieder Rückmeldungen zu dem 3-fach-Posting bekomme. Ich wollte die eMail parallel an eine Dritte Person verschicken und mein Thunderbird hat angemerkt das dieses mit dem Konto nicht geht. Wenn man eine solche Meldung bekommt, dann entsteht der Eindruck da ist auch wirklich

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenauswertung erweitert

2012-07-24 Thread Stephan Wolff
Moin Jan, Biomassekraftwerke sind unterschiedlich mit generator:source=biomass/biofuel/biogas gekennzeichnet. Du fragst im Overlay Biomasse offenbar nur biofuel ab. Viele Grüße Stephan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] LinkedOSMDB (War: Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!)

2012-07-24 Thread Stefan Keller
Ich möchte den Diskussionsfaden von Permanente/stabile OSM IDs! zusammenfassen wie folgt: Den Anwendungsfall, den ich einem Lösungskonzept zuführen möchte, sind Nachnutzer und (OSM-)externe Datenbanken (nennen wir es Fachinformationssystem X, das z.B. Schlafbänke als Objekte der Realität

Re: [Talk-de] LinkedOSMDB (War: Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!)

2012-07-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 24.07.2012 23:12, Stefan Keller wrote: Ein Vorschlag geht offenbar in Richtung fuzzy links bzw. semantische ID. Dabei spielt ein Mapper den Identifizierer und definiert und speichert eine Query (z.B. ref+network) auf OSM Objekte (vgl. dazu

Re: [Talk-de] LinkedOSMDB (War: Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!)

2012-07-24 Thread Stefan Keller
Hallo, Am 24. Juli 2012 23:55 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hallo, On 24.07.2012 23:12, Stefan Keller wrote: Ein Vorschlag geht offenbar in Richtung fuzzy links bzw. semantische ID. Dabei spielt ein Mapper den Identifizierer und definiert und speichert eine Query (z.B.

[osm-ve] walking papers

2012-07-24 Thread Wladimir Szczerban
Hola a todos, Si van a trabajar con walking papers revisar la página del wiki de OSM [1] ya que ahora han cambiado de walking paper a Field papers[2]. Creo que todavía no está listo el pluging de field papers para el JOSM así que mejor hacer una prueba pequeña del funcionamiento antes de ponerse

Re: [osm-ve] Maracay Mapa Borrado

2012-07-24 Thread vramos
Buenas Tardes Pues revisando los sitios en los que he ayudado un poco me doy cuenta que tiene que ser la licencia y no vandalismo. Por ejemplo cuando empece a trabajar en El Limon (Maracay) solo habia alli tres avenidas, Universidad, Caracas y Principal. Por no eliminar y agregar otra vez (en

Re: [osm-ve] Maracay Mapa Borrado

2012-07-24 Thread Carmen Brando
Hola, Si, eso era a lo que me referia, me parecia demasiada casualidad que todo pase al mismo tiempo en dos versiones de OSM distintas. En todo caso, que lastima todo lo que se perdio. Saludos, Carmen 2012/7/24 vra...@geocad.com.ve: Buenas Tardes Pues revisando los sitios en los que he

Re: [Talk-it] Boundaries

2012-07-24 Thread Matteo Gottardi
Il 22 luglio 2012 22:16, Alexander Roalter alexan...@roalter.it ha scritto: Mi sai dire quali comuni altoatesini mancano? Non ho accesso a un shape-file, ma un server WMS della provincia con le confini comunali (e partemente anche le confini dei frazioni (se sono stati comuni autonomi []

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Navit Map Conversion Warnings for Italy

2012-07-24 Thread Simone Cortesi
si, e andrebbero sistemate. sono verosimilmente una conseguenza del licence bot che è passato scorsa settimana in italia. Ho chiesto a Rainer se pubblica costantemente una lista degli errori da qualche parte su internet, per averla sempre aggiornata. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM,

[Talk-it] Risultati curiosi dopo la redaction del bot

2012-07-24 Thread Simone Saviolo
Stavo guardando la mappa di Novara, quando ho visto questo: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.45578lon=8.60292zoom=17layers=M Già mi immagino i macchinisti che affrontano il tratto guidato e si superano l'un l'altro all'interno della staccata del tornantino :-D Avete visto anche voi qualche

Re: [Talk-it] Boundaries

2012-07-24 Thread Alexander Roalter
Am 24.07.2012 08:18, schrieb Matteo Gottardi: Il 22 luglio 2012 22:16, Alexander Roalter alexan...@roalter.it ha scritto: PS: attenzione con il server wms della provincia, nei metadati di parecchi layer (compreso quello delle unità amministrative) c'è scritto Modello dati ancora proprietario.

Re: [Talk-it] Gallerie commerciali

2012-07-24 Thread Simone Saviolo
Io metterei footway. È quello che sono: dei percorsi pedonali. Pedestrian fa più zona pedonale, una strada che è chiusa al traffico veicolare regolare. Ad esempio, su una footway di norma non mi aspetto di trovare il nome della strada o dei numeri civici (ci sono eccezioni). Ciao, Simone

Re: [Talk-it] Gallerie commerciali

2012-07-24 Thread Alexander Roalter
Am 24.07.2012 14:20, schrieb Simone Saviolo: Io metterei footway. È quello che sono: dei percorsi pedonali. Pedestrian fa più zona pedonale, una strada che è chiusa al traffico veicolare regolare. Ad esempio, su una footway di norma non mi aspetto di trovare il nome della strada o dei numeri

Re: [Talk-it] Boundaries

2012-07-24 Thread Carlo Stemberger
On 24/07/2012 12:37, Alexander Roalter wrote: E un'ultima domanda: è ragionevole usare i fiumi come membro della relazione se il fiume è parte integrale della definizione del confine? I.E. se il fiume cambiasse il suo percorso, anche la confine dovrebbe cambiare? Sì. Carlo -- .' `. |

Re: [Talk-it] Gallerie commerciali

2012-07-24 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-07-24 at 14:20:06 +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote: Io metterei footway. È quello che sono: dei percorsi pedonali. Pedestrian fa più zona pedonale, una strada che è chiusa al traffico veicolare regolare. Ad esempio, su una footway di norma non mi aspetto di trovare il nome della strada o

Re: [Talk-it] Download xml fermate autobus Atac

2012-07-24 Thread Daniele Palla Palladino
Salve a tutti, visto che mi sono rimesso a lavoro per la mia Tesi di Laurea vi inoltro nuovamente la domanda. E' possibile fare un download di tutte le fermate che un autobus incontra con la propria tratta in formato XML? Per fare un esempio concreto, per la linea 786 il formato XML dei nodi (come

Re: [Talk-it] Download xml fermate autobus Atac

2012-07-24 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Se non erro Martin ti aveva risposto usando le OverPassAPI Tra l'altro, dal tuo primo post, sono migliorate parecchio. Se poi la cosa non ti garba, allora ti consiglio di andare di Osmium e di farti il parser dell'area che ti interessa, oppure configurare osm2pgsql scaricando il file .xml dal

Re: [Talk-it] Risultati curiosi dopo la redaction del bot

2012-07-24 Thread Daniele Romagnoli
2012/7/24 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com Stavo guardando la mappa di Novara, quando ho visto questo: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.45578lon=8.60292zoom=17layers=M Già mi immagino i macchinisti che affrontano il tratto guidato e si superano l'un l'altro all'interno della

Re: [Talk-it] traduzione bicycle_rental in josm

2012-07-24 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 20 luglio 2012 18:18, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com ha scritto: Onde evitare che i nuovi utenti mappino i noleggiatori di bici come stazioni del bike sharing, non si potrebbe tradurre il preimpostato in Trasporto - Bici, come Stazione del Bike Sharing invece di Noleggio ? +1 -- ciao

Re: [Talk-it] Boundaries

2012-07-24 Thread Guido Piazzi
Il 24/07/2012 15:03, Carlo Stemberger ha scritto: On 24/07/2012 12:37, Alexander Roalter wrote: E un'ultima domanda: è ragionevole usare i fiumi come membro della relazione se il fiume è parte integrale della definizione del confine? I.E. se il fiume cambiasse il suo percorso, anche la confine

Re: [Talk-it] distanze città italiane

2012-07-24 Thread Groppo O
Il giorno 24 luglio 2012 01:57, Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 23/07/2012 20:05, Groppo O wrote: Altri casi si possono rintracciare dentro questa lista (aggiornata a ieri): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/User:Groppo/Motorway_e_**

Re: [Talk-it] Gallerie commerciali

2012-07-24 Thread Groppo O
Vedo che la tendenza è di taggare questi casi come footway. Grazie a tutti per le risposte. Ciao, Groppo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Boundaries

2012-07-24 Thread Matteo Gottardi
Il 24 luglio 2012 12:37, Alexander Roalter alexan...@roalter.it ha scritto: Un'altra cosa: quale miglioramento si può aspettare dagli nuovi dati ISTAT? I nuovi dati sono molto più particolareggiati rispetto a quelli attuali. Ho messo su http://www.gomatteo.net/new.gpx.gz e

Re: [Talk-it] Download xml fermate autobus Atac

2012-07-24 Thread Davide Ferri
Nell'xml completo della relazione dovresti trovare tutto: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/1692857/full Su github, se ti interessa, trovi il codice in Java che ho usato usato/uso per sincronizzare il gtfs di Torino che tra le tante cose (per fare la sincronizzazione) tiene i dati

Re: [Talk-it] Boundaries

2012-07-24 Thread Alexander Roalter
On 07/24/2012 09:35 PM, Matteo Gottardi wrote: Non ne sono sicuro al 100%, ma credo che una particella possa trovarsi in un solo comune _catastale_, ma non è detto che quest'ultimo coincida con quello amministrativo. Questo è un'ottimo argomento. Nel caso da me indicato, proprio non lo so, ma

[Talk-co] UN-SPIDER: ESA Call for study proposals: Improving disaster response capacity

2012-07-24 Thread Fredy Rivera
-- Forwarded message -- From: Asjad Naqvi asjadna...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:22 AM Subject: [CrisisMappers] UN-SPIDER: ESA Call for study proposals: Improving disaster response capacity To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Saw it in the news feed today. Some of you

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Tasking Tool, Redaction Bot cleanup

2012-07-24 Thread rob . j . nickerson
Hi Brian, I would tend to agree with you. For HOT it may work well as most of that mapping is done from aerial imagery by people all over the world. However for organising local mapping efforts it doesn't work so well. One example is that you seem to have to divide up tasks by the map

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Extracting data from OSM (for use in JOSM or elsewhere)

2012-07-24 Thread rob . j . nickerson
Hi All, We have spoke about how to extract data from OSM in previous meetings. For example How do I get just the allotments in Coventry?. I have written up a diary entry that might help make this clearer: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/RobJN/diary/17325 Regards, Rob

Re: [Talk-se] Bostadsytor och lantgårdar

2012-07-24 Thread Tobias Johansson
Hej Jag vet inte vad som är fel eller inte i detta fallet. Ville mest se om jag kunde göra en karta när trådstartaren skrev sitt första mail. Har dock kollat min query i databasen och den ger ungefär 5500 resultat så det är ju en del att gå igenom om man vill göra det. Dock de röda

Re: [Talk-se] Köpa en riktig GPS

2012-07-24 Thread Björn Lindahl
Tack för all input! Även om det verkar vara en bra idé att köpa en handhållen gps på sikt känner jag inte för att lägga ut de pengarna i dagsläget. Att köra en gps-logger med blåtand kopplad till mobilen känns mest attraktivt just nu i och med att det går att använda den istället för inbyggda

Re: [Talk-se] Köpa en riktig GPS

2012-07-24 Thread Joakim Fors
Garmin släppte ju nyss en rätt intressant pryl: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=109827 Lär ska komma på marknaden någon gång i augusti för under 1000 kr. Vet sen inte hur det är med precisionen i praktiken men alltid trevligt med många punkter så man i alla fall kan få ett bättre

Re: [Talk-se] Köpa en riktig GPS

2012-07-24 Thread Christoffer Holmstedt
Intressant. Tack för tipset angående GLO från Garmin. Ska hålla ögonen på den när det närmar sig. Med vänlig hälsning -- Christoffer Holmstedt Den 24 juli 2012 11:39 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Garmin släppte ju nyss en rätt intressant pryl:

Re: [Talk-se] Köpa en riktig GPS

2012-07-24 Thread Bengt Bäverman
Jag kan inte svara för vilka chip som sitter i BT-dongel-GPSerna, men det är stor skillnad mellan chippen i noggrannhet, snabbheten att hitta var den är vid uppstart och hur känslig den är för dålig sikt till satelliterna. Ofta är de dyrare modellerna tydligt mycket bättre. Jag är inne på min

Re: [Talk-se] Bostadsytor och lantgårdar

2012-07-24 Thread Andreas Vilén
Ja, det var ju inte meningen att trampa på några tår. Det finns massvis av tillfällen då det är korrekt att tagga residential i små ytor. Som Tobias säger ska man ju dock inte tagga både landuse och building, plus som sagt de fall där byggnader har taggats med landuse av något skäl. Fler idéer

Re: [Talk-ar] borrados

2012-07-24 Thread Agustin Rissoli
Ya habían avisado que la mayoría de las estaciones de servicio las había agregado un usuario que no aceptó la licencia, yo pude cambiar algunas antes de q pasara La Bestia El 24/07/2012 08:03, talk-ar-requ...@openstreetmap.org escribió: Envíe los mensajes para la lista Talk-ar a

Re: [Talk-at] Redaction Reduction - Koordinationsseite für Wien

2012-07-24 Thread David Schmitt
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:14:16 +0200, Markus Straub markus.straub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, super! Dann kann das koordinierte Vorgehen beginnen. in der Beschreibung sollte an denke ich noch erwähnen, dass nicht nur die Wege auf ihre Existenz kontrolliert werden sollten sondern auch

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