Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it] cabina ascensore troppo piccola per bici normale

Ciao Volker, On 18/07/20 23:16, Volker Schmidt wrote: Vista la tridimensionalità degli oggetti, credo sia meglio usare: maxwidth=*, maxlenght=* e maxheight=*. Il problema con questi è che sono tag che riguarda o l'accesso legale. Nel caso ascensore l'unico disponibile sulla targhetta

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Relation : multiples … ca existe ?

Le sam. 18 juil. 2020 à 11:31, Denis Chenu a écrit : > Merci, merci , merci … > > Donc : si de multiples éléments font parti d'un ensemble : j'ajoute un > polygone avec son amenity. > C'est bien cela le principe ? > > Si (au final) ce batiment : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/79966828 > fait

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 191, Issue 13

will stay unchanged. I revert changes on surface as well > > because that's not very different to tracktype except that it applies to > > other types of roads as well. > > > > The countries which will be affected are: > > Germany > > Denmark > > Turkey >

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

A wide scale revert without assessing closely the quality and particulars in specific countries is not a good idea. Just an opinion that a method is flawed is not enough to demonstrate that such a wide scale revert is justified. Much more detailed analysis is needed before it should even be

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it] cabina ascensore troppo piccola per bici normale

questione interessante per l'accessibilità in generale e non solo per le > biciclette. > Mi sono reso conto subito, ma voleva porre un problema limitato :-) > Vista la tridimensionalità degli oggetti, credo sia meglio usare: > maxwidth=*, maxlenght=* e maxheight=*. > Il problema con questi è che

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

in the united states the hole thing starts out as gravel ,    >Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:44 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >    >On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:23 PM Mark Wagner < mark+...@carnildo.com > wrote: >  >>* Two adjacent sections of track being tagged as "grade 2" and "grade >>  4"

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:23 PM Mark Wagner wrote: > > * Two adjacent sections of track being tagged as "grade 2" and "grade > 4" not because of any difference in road surface, but because one has > a line of grass between the ruts and the other doesn't. > In rural areas where I have spent

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

On 18/07/2020 20:51, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It's perfectly reasonable to add surface=unpaved or similar based on aerial imagery alone, if you have some experience in distinguishing different surfaces of roads and tracks from aerial imagery. I'd agree that most of the time telling

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] Interested in importing address points in New York State

On July 18, 2020 16:07:55 Russell Nelson wrote: Well there you go! You should make a page on the Wiki under Imports, and save this email there. So it doesn't get lost. Like my NYSDEC email did. :( I will make sure to do that when I get a chance! -- Skyler

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] Interested in importing address points in New York State

On July 18, 2020 14:53:26 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Not a lawyer, but is it possible that "use the points for any lawful purpose" is nonanswer as a use invaloving copyright infringement would not be lawful? Also not a lawyer, but there is plenty of unambiguous context. I contacted him

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Almost all of the tracktype mapping around me has been done by armchair mappers working from from aerial images. Tracks in my area are usually produced in one of two ways: * A bulldozer is used to scrape vegetation and topsoil off. * A given route is driven repeatedly, eroding any vegetation or

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] Interested in importing address points in New York State

Well there you go! You should make a page on the Wiki under Imports, and save this email there. So it doesn't get lost. Like my NYSDEC email did. :( On 7/18/20 12:34 PM, Skyler Hawthorne wrote: Well, it turned it to be a lot easier than I was thinking it would be! I reached out to the contact

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] MapContrib en Allemand pour le projet Karto-District

Le 18/07/2020 à 10:06, Vincent Bergeot a écrit : Bonjour, ... Au passage ce projet a permis la tenue d'une table ronde sur la cartographie transfrontalière filmée (Frédérick Ramm, Kristine Karch et moi même étions les "experts" OSM, merci à DenisH pour les mises en lien). Cette vidéo

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

It's perfectly reasonable to add surface=unpaved or similar based on aerial imagery alone, if you have some experience in distinguishing different surfaces of roads and tracks from aerial imagery. Do you have evidence that most of the surface tags added by this user are unreliable? – Joseph

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Hi, Am 18/07/2020 um 21.19 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > Are you sure that just satellite imagery was used? I suspect that also > aerial imagery was used in edits. In Hamburg, Germany, where aerial imagery of the city is available, Bing was used. >> I think that the description "all

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Jul 18, 2020, 21:09 by osm...@michreichert.de: > Hi Mateusz, > > Am 18/07/2020 um 19.29 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > >> Can you link affected data in Poland? >> >> In Poland you actually can reliably estimate real tracktype based solely >> on high quality aerial images (not satellite imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Hi Mateusz, Am 18/07/2020 um 19.29 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > Can you link affected data in Poland? > > In Poland you actually can reliably estimate real tracktype based solely > on high quality aerial images (not satellite imagery that is unlikely to be > sufficient), typically Geoportal 2

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus routes in Málaga: Should we add "stop_area" relations?

the Tag:railway=stop, has some of the same issues.   >Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:27 PM -05:00 from Jarek Piórkowski >: >  >On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 13:17, Daniel Capilla < dcapil...@gmail.com > wrote: >> When we started mapping the bus routes in Málaga, Alan Grant and I came >> to the conclusion

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] Interested in importing address points in New York State

Not a lawyer, but is it possible that "use the points for any lawful purpose" is nonanswer as a use invaloving copyright infringement would not be lawful? Jul 18, 2020, 18:34 by o...@dead10ck.com: > Well, it turned it to be a lot easier than I was thinking it would be! I > reached out to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Jul 18, 2020, 20:07 by osm...@michreichert.de: > Am 18/07/2020 um 19.29 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > >> Can you link affected data in Poland? >> >> In Poland you actually can reliably estimate real tracktype based solely >> on high quality aerial images (not satellite imagery that is unlikely

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus routes in Málaga: Should we add "stop_area" relations?

Hi Daniel, If you would like to participate in a Hangout, I can explain to you how PT_Assistant can help you with this task. We can even do that in Spanish, si te gusta. Personally, I would also only map highway=bus_stop (with or without public_transport=platform) on nodes next to the highway,

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

On 18/07/2020 17:51, Florimond Berthoux wrote: If the estimation was really bad almost all the time why not, but here the example given is ok. How do you know - have you visited that area and done a ground survey? Best Regards, Andy ___ talk

[Talk-GB] TPT / NCN62 (was: Re: National Cycle Network removal/reclassification)

On 18/07/2020 17:06, Adam Snape wrote: On the subject of overlapping relations. I've recently noticed that the NCN 62 relation has been named Transpennine trail which is true for much, but not all of the route. The TPT ends at Southport, yet NCN 62 continues further North. At the eastern end

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Hi Mateusz, Am 18/07/2020 um 19.29 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > Can you link affected data in Poland? > > In Poland you actually can reliably estimate real tracktype based solely > on high quality aerial images (not satellite imagery that is unlikely to be > sufficient), typically Geoportal 2

Re: [Talk-lt] Vilnius ketina paskelbti ženklų žemėlapį

Laba diena 2020-07-17, pn, 18:20 Eduardas Kriščiūnas rašė: > Rašo, kad bus kaip Klaipėdoje. Tomai, ar esi matęs jį? Gal reikia kaip > nors kitaip duomenis pateikti, kad ir OSM naudos būtų? Kaip suprantu, būtų galima pažiūrėti, pakoreguoti eismo ribojimus, vienpusius eismus, gal net juostas.

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

I modestly (on occasion) set tracktype=* based on imagery, but only using higher-quality imagery where I have high confidence I can quite accurately do so. On those few occasions where I later visit the site / track and am able to glean how accurate my tagging was, I've either never had to

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus routes in Málaga: Should we add "stop_area" relations?

Jul 18, 2020, 19:17 by dcapil...@gmail.com: > Hi! > > I'll try to check the bus routes in Malagá. [1] I haven't checked them for a > long time because I have been busy with other mapping tasks and because there > were many changes in the central area of Málaga. The bus routes changed too >

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Can you link affected data in Poland? In Poland you actually can reliably estimate real tracktype based solely on high quality aerial images (not satellite imagery that is unlikely to be sufficient), typically Geoportal 2 aerial and LIDAR data available in ISOK Cień dataset. Note that your

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus routes in Málaga: Should we add "stop_area" relations?

On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 13:17, Daniel Capilla wrote: > When we started mapping the bus routes in Málaga, Alan Grant and I came > to the conclusion that it was not necessary to add "stop_area" relations > due to the type of bus stops in Málaga, [2] where there are no actual > stop areas (only a

[Talk-transit] Bus routes in Málaga: Should we add "stop_area" relations?

Hi! I'll try to check the bus routes in Malagá. [1] I haven't checked them for a long time because I have been busy with other mapping tasks and because there were many changes in the central area of Málaga. The bus routes changed too often. Now it seems to be stabilizing, there are less and

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] ref et ref:FR

Bonjour. Le sam. 15 févr. 2020 à 18:02, Philippe Verdy > a écrit : J'ai continue à renseigner des colonnes dans ta feuille https://lite.framacalc.org/9f0b-osm_ref_fr Je pense avoir laissé assez de temps pour que tout un chacun ait pu le compléter, je vais la

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

I see no big issue of using only aerial images to set track_type or surface. You can get a fairly good result with such sources. So no, you should not blindly revert its modifications. If the estimation was really bad almost all the time why not, but here the example given is ok. Le sam. 18 juil.

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] Interested in importing address points in New York State

Well, it turned it to be a lot easier than I was thinking it would be! I reached out to the contact listed on the Clearing House web site, using the template in the wiki page, and he replied confirming that we have permission to use the data. This is the text of the email exchange, and I've

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

On the subject of overlapping relations. I've recently noticed that the NCN 62 relation has been named Transpennine trail which is true for much, but not all of the route. The TPT ends at Southport, yet NCN 62 continues further North. At the eastern end of the TPT goes far beyond the end of NCN 62

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it] cabina ascensore troppo piccola per bici normale

Ciao Volker, questione interessante per l'accessibilità in generale e non solo per le biciclette. Vista la tridimensionalità degli oggetti, credo sia meglio usare: maxwidth=*, maxlenght=* e maxheight=*. Nel caso specifico dell'ascensore si può aggiungere anche: maxweight=*, che banalmente è anche

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

On Jul 18, 2020, at 7:09 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > In addition (I can't find the link now but) I recall reading about the death > of a hiker or climber who used some app which used OSM data, and the app > didn't distinguish between track_types (or there was no track_type data for > that route),

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

In addition (I can't find the link now but) I recall reading about the death of a hiker or climber who used some app which used OSM data, and the app didn't distinguish between track_types (or there was no track_type data for that route), so the hiker presumed it was OK to go on, and

[Talk-it] [talk-it] cabina ascensore troppo piccola per bici normale

Le cabine degli ascensori sono spesso troppo piccole per bici normali, salvo se si mettano in verticale. Come si fa? Il problema è presente in migliaia di ascensori nelle stazioni ferroviarie. Il problema del tagging è che una bici corta ci sta, una bici di lunghezza normale ci sta solo in

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

On 18/07/2020 11:53, Michael Reichert wrote: I do not believe that one can add reliable tracktype=* information from satellite imagery without having some ground truth knowledge in order to know how to interpret the imagery in that region. I think that "without having some ground truth

[Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

Hi all, As some of you may be aware, Sustrans has embarked on a project to review and improve the National Cycle Network. As part of this, sections of routes which Sustrans thinks have no realistic prospect of being brought up to a minimum standard in the near future are being either removed

Re: [Talk-it] Landuse

Per la mappatura dei landuse il mio approccio prevede una preparazione. Migliorare i tracciati di strade e corsi d'acqua, spesso sono mappate con spigoli assurdi e zig zag dovuti (penso) all'utilizzo di tracce gps fatte in bici o a piedi. Poi traccio delle parallele alle way con una larghezza in

[OSM-talk-fr] exporter le wiki osm

Hello les gens, j'ai vu qu'il était possible de faire des exports de wikipedia https://dumps.wikimedia.org/frwiki/latest/ , et me demandais si on pouvait aussi faire ça avec le wiki OSM.Pour des questions de résilience en cas de pépin et pour continuer à s'instruire en hors ligne, ça me semble

Re: [Talk-it] Landuse

Sono d'accordo anch'io: la strada non è né residential né farmland né industrial :) Ciao, Simone Il giorno ven 10 lug 2020 alle ore 14:53 Manuel ha scritto: > Cambio oggetto perché la discussione ormai è su altro. > Dunque, ci ho pensato a lungo e devo ammettere che l'approccio di Martin > mi

Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

On 9/7/20 7:52 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: > > > > Jul 9, 2020, 06:50 by greg.dutkow...@gmail.com: > > Hi, > Bicycle Network Tasmania are trying to improve the quality of > cycling infrastructure information in OSM. > Much has been done by volunteers in various

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] API indisponible ?

C'était probablement lié à une erreur de configuration chez cloudflare et ça à perduré pendant quelques dizaine de minutes. https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-outage-on-july-17-2020/ Le July 17, 2020 10:10:39 PM UTC, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : > > >Le 17/07/2020 à 23:29, Gaël Simon a

[OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

Hi, while reviewing changes in my local area, I discovered that user Modest7 has been adding tracktype=* tags to lots of highway=track at various locations. I asked him what sources he used apart from the satellite imagery mentioned in the imagery_used=* tag of his changesets. See

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW images not loading

On 18/7/20 8:13 pm, Sebastian Spiess wrote: Hello, is anyone else having issues with NSW LPI images not loading in JOSM? This also seems to be the case for iD. Yep. Either 'they' have changed something or 'they' have a problem. Give them 24 hours to see if it is a problem .. if not working

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW images not loading

On 18/7/20 8:13 pm, Sebastian Spiess wrote: Hello, is anyone else having issues with NSW LPI images not loading in JOSM? This also seems to be the case for iD. Their main website also seems to be down at present: https://www.spatial.nsw.gov.au/

[talk-au] LPI NSW images not loading

Hello, is anyone else having issues with NSW LPI images not loading in JOSM? This also seems to be the case for iD. Regards, Seb ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [Talk-es] Ediciones del usuario jamesks

Si todos los cambios al mapa tuvieran que ser perfectos el mapa no existiría. El trabajo en OSM es colaborativo y evolutivo: unos añaden vías principales a alto nivel, otros añaden algunas calles, otros las completan, otros ponen nombres a las calles, otros números de casas, otros añaden las

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Relation : multiples … ca existe ?

Merci, merci , merci … Donc : si de multiples éléments font parti d'un ensemble : j'ajoute un polygone avec son amenity. C'est bien cela le principe ? Si (au final) ce batiment : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/79966828 fait parti du Jardin, mais avec juste un chemin entre les 2. 1. Est ce que

[OSM-talk-fr] MapContrib en Allemand pour le projet Karto-District

Bonjour, dans le cadre du projet franco-allemand KartoDistrict (https://kartodistrict.eu), l'allemand a été ajouté à MapContrib (merci Lioba, Benoît et Guillaume). C'est l'occasion de donner quelques nouvelles : * l'instance principale (dont le transfert sur les serveurs de