Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-11-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/11/2017 07:48, Adam Snape wrote: Most map users don't understand the distinction between primary (green) and non-primary (red) A-roads so I understand why not all maps use it. Since OSM makes this distinction anyway it makes sense to use the standard uk green/red colour scheme in the UK

[Talk-GB] Osmand, was "Re: The OSM UK map"

2017-11-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/11/2017 09:13, Lester Caine wrote: I keep looking at OSMAND and thinking ... I must look at what is needed for a UK road theme there we have American and German! Vector display really is the way forward then one can select the right default for any area. The last time I looked at it

[Talk-GB] Hospital Departments (was Re: Reception desks)

2017-11-15 Thread Andy Townsend
Actually, prompted by Will's question below, I've always wondered about the best way to map hospital departments.  There's plenty of examples of mapping of "clinics", which would work for the more standalone departments, but there are also those that don't deal with external patients but only

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-11-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/11/2017 22:31, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: ...  Maybe I should write up an FAQ with all the arguments raised here, and simply refer to them? It would save on typing. No, maybe you should just listen and act on the feedback that you're getting here.  There have been an awful lot of replies in

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-11-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/11/2017 21:19, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Andy, as I stated before, JOSM doesn't force you to edit in your area - it shows you whatever data you download. OverpassT can provide it to JOSM anywhere too. Your query in Sophox can be limited to an area, or can be anywhere - it all depends on

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-11-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/11/2017 19:36, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > That's why I think Sophox is a much better and safer alternative to JOSM's autofixes. At the risk of repeating something that's been said multiple times previously, with JOSM autofixes you're performing edits in an area where you've already

Re: [OSM-talk] Odd mapping in Atar Mauritania

2017-11-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/11/2017 17:40, john whelan wrote: ... and to be honest how does one correct this stuff?  Move the points so only one building is mapped?  Delete and redraw would be faster but then you lose the history. There are lots of examples in OSM of things being mapped "roughly" first and then

Re: [OSM-talk] Odd mapping in Atar Mauritania

2017-11-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/11/2017 12:51, john whelan wrote: One mapper has a thousand untagged ways in Mauritania most of which are of this type.  I have sent a note to them but not yet heard anything back. You may have already also done some of these, for completeness and for the benefit of anyone unfamiliar

Re: [Talk-GB] Prow_ref format

2017-11-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/11/2017 13:34, Philip Barnes wrote: I don't believe that the type is needed as it can be derived from the designation tag. ... provided that someone hasn't caused that to be lost somehow (perhaps by merging ways by mistake).  :) Also there are examples of paths on the border between

Re: [talk-au] Ficticious edits near Victor Harbour

2017-11-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/11/2017 22:30, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: But I'd also agree with reverting the changes & blocking them till we get an explanation. Normally first things first, I'd suggest commenting on a changset and explaining that the data that they're modifying is used to create the map that

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-11-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/11/2017 20:42, Rob Nickerson wrote: ... There is no way I see us OSM craft mappers visiting all of the rest within sensible time-frames. ... Ah, silly me.  If only I (and everyone else here) had read that around 10 years ago, then we needn't have bothered mapping all that stuff in OSM,

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-11-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/11/2017 14:24, Steve Doerr wrote: The postcode (S44 5HB) is certainly wrong. Probably should be S44 5HS. Euro Garages (operator of the Shell garage we're talking about) is certainly listed at that postcode, which is Markham Lane, as you say. (So are 59 other locations.) Strangely, KFC

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-11-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/11/2017 10:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: How is the address info there incorrect? Did you see the correct address of the building? Googling shows that amenities there are indeed addressed by Markham Lane, just like the Markham Vale, the business centre that contains these. I explained the

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-11-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/11/2017 09:55, Ilya Zverev wrote: Hi, You might remember a few months ago I discussed here importing of Shell fuel stations. The data provider is Navads, which has a contract with Shell for putting their stations on the map. They asked me to proceed with the import and sent an updated

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/17 14:21, Dave F wrote: On 02/11/2017 13:25, Andy Townsend wrote: On 11/02/17 13:02, Dave F wrote: It's great pedestrian crossings are rendered, but the icon gets swallowed by the road way. I'd probably need to see an example of that - any chance of a permalink?  It's

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map: abandoned railways may still have bridges.

2017-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/17 13:43, Paul Berry wrote: Thirded. Examples abound but an egregious one, in this context, is the south side of Leeds City Centre where you have the Holbeck Viaduct with its 92 brick arches 3 stories high marching across the urban landscape. An extremely visible structure in

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/17 13:02, Dave F wrote: It's great pedestrian crossings are rendered, but the icon gets swallowed by the road way. I'd probably need to see an example of that - any chance of a permalink?  It's supposed to render on top (albeit small), but it may be I've missed something and

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

2017-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/17 10:32, David Woolley wrote: On 31/10/17 19:04, Bob Hawkins wrote: 2. Permissive paths: I do not understand “/permissive paths need showing/ I hope this means distinguishing from public ones, rather than that they are currently not rendered! They'll currently appear like the

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map - signed walking routes

2017-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/17 03:31, Andrew Black wrote:  My request. Signed walking routes such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6084014 There's logic in the style that has been forked to handle those: https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=17=51.424012=-0.06819 There's obviously a

Re: [Talk-it] mapnik=Umanitario(Hot_rendering)?

2017-11-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/11/2017 18:42, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu wrote: Appena guardato adesso, io lo vedo uguale alla mappa standard, è solo a me? http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/46.0932/11.1419=H https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/60372/the-humanitarian-map-shows-as-standard-map "There

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-11-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/11/2017 13:43, Pierre Béland wrote: Nice, I often had problems while editing or validating in countries with non latin alphabet. Will this be automaticly overlayed to the map based on your language option ? I was being facetious of course - it's just the "Transport" map as seen at

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-11-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/11/2017 13:28, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: Still, the OSM map remains unusable on the global scale. For instance, I read an article about the new railroad North-South. I wanted to see it on the OSM map but I could not even find Iran on the map. Works for me:

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/10/2017 16:00, john whelan wrote: Often they have no knowledge of OpenStreetMap or their local area.  To them it's just helping the Red Cross or whatever. Everybody (unless they're "serving life without parole") has knowledge of _some_ local area.  If people really don't know what

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-31 Thread Andy Townsend
For info, here's an example changeset discussion comment I've just written.  Where new mappers are not quite getting the hang of things it'd be great if before someone leaps to the mailing list to either complain abot or defend HOT and HOT mappers they could offer them advice and help about

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/10/2017 12:43, Frederik Ramm wrote: Have we found out anything about this yet? None of the users who have entries in changeset discussions have commented in those discussions, including the person who created the task at HOT.  I also don't see any attempt to tidy up the data after the

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/10/2017 21:33, Safwat Halaby wrote: User "Andrew" added things like "world's biggest refrigerator", "WHEEL OF FORTUNE", "ANDREWS BIGGEST CAR", "Concrete Thing", etc. For completeness, http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sFM shows "Andrew's Dream Car". Reverting edits such as this makes sense to

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/10/2017 17:18, Safwat Halaby wrote: There's a sudden influx of bad edits by different users related to Palestine HotOSM tasks. There's a "I've seen a problem; what should I do?" section on http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group which explains the steps to follow.  You've

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM - Mapbox updates

2017-10-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/10/2017 18:09, Safwat Halaby wrote: Hmm, around the same times the Mapbox updates stopped[1], OsmCHA[2] stopped showing new changesets and I reported[3] that. Perhaps it was an unintended side-effect of whatever Mapbox did? That's something at your end: I think

[OSM-talk] Individual wiki pages (was Re: weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23)

2017-10-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/10/2017 08:57, Dave F wrote: Going off topic, I know, but why is this 'Derbyshire' page even in OSM's wiki? It's meant to have details about how to map not trying to compete with Wikipedia. It's not competing with wikipedia.  It's a list of links to other OSM-related stuff and "what

Re: [OSM-talk] How to create custom online map from OpenStreetMap

2017-10-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/10/2017 18:47, Carlos Cámara wrote: I would like to create a custom map for online use that loads OSM data but displays it in different ways as the standard, cyclemap, transport... layers. Another couple of resources to look at (if you think you'll go down the "Mapnik" route): To

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/10/2017 12:39, Tomas Straupis wrote: How were the people asked? I can only see very short note in Lithuanian. I can' understand it, but it doesn't seem like "do not touch" request... Have you noticed the title of this thread? ;-) For completeness, I pointed this out 11 months ago,

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/10/2017 11:40, Ryszard Mikke wrote: That seems like a problem to fix in Wikipedia Part of the problem is that some of these problems simply aren't fixable at wikipedia.  For example https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0 and

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

2017-10-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/10/2017 03:56, Clifford Snow wrote: Unnamed streams are helpful to people hiking in the forest areas by giving a landmark for navigation. I'm in the UK so I'm not familiar with NHD, but here I am familiar with streams here traced from NPE (old maps, very inaccurate by modern

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

2017-10-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/10/2017 13:15, Adam Snape wrote: To my mind Nominatim should use postal addresses where tagged in OSM rather than trying to interpolate a address from admin boundaries. As a backup it is better than nothing but it prodcues some bizarre results. Somebody might live in Blackburn or

Re: [Talk-ca] COMS2200 Ottawa, Carleton University

2017-10-18 Thread Andy Townsend
For info, there's a bunch of stuff that you can do with Overpass to see the state of an object on a certain date, for example: [date:"2017-08-25T00:17:06Z"]; way(300069227); out geom; http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/spV Also it might be worth considering using the dev site

Re: [Talk-us] hydrology Alaska

2017-10-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/10/2017 05:49, ANT Berezhnyi wrote: +10 to what AlaskaDave said Simplification creates such a crap, as you led me to an example https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/69.94271/-152.49898 isn't the result of simplification, though, is it?  You can see the pixels... I'd suggest that,

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/10/2017 08:29, Tobias Zwick wrote: Does the dev API have real (=mirrored) data? It has whatever data you add to it.  I've used it in the past to demonstrate a "different way of mapping something" by copying everything from live to dev in a small area and then making the changes in

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/10/2017 12:06, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Andy, the query works fine, you probably hit it during the update. That now produces a worldwide map showing where mappers have used a particular tag.  Except in the case of typing errors you shouldn't be changing tagX to tagY without any other

Re: [Talk-us] Davis Senior High School, California

2017-10-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/10/2017 18:45, David Kewley wrote: I've just now sent an email through the school's portal to Mr. Birdsall, asking whether he can help. I live in California, and have met folks from Davis, but don't have enough of a personal connection to go a more direct route. David Thanks for

[Talk-us] Davis Senior High School, California

2017-10-12 Thread Andy Townsend
that actually exist rather than adding fake Pokemon parks called "Hi Albert". Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group PS: In case anyone wonders "why don't you just IP block them", some of the edits are from iPhones, so that wouldn't b

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/10/2017 18:56, Stefan Keller wrote: (questions from Yuri snipped) Anyone? To be honest, that just struck me as more "whataboutery" designed to divert attention from the suggestion at the top of this thread: > pause any (large scale) wikidata edits for a while until more members of

[OSM-talk] Licence compatibility (was Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag)

2017-10-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/10/2017 02:56, Paul Norman wrote: On 10/1/2017 5:39 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Lastly, if the coordinates are different, you may not copy it from OSM to Wikidata because of the difference in the license. Just for clarity and anyone reading the archives later, copying from Wikidata to

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

2017-10-01 Thread Andy Townsend
Not an answer, but a suggestion where there might be a bit more info... The Netherlands forum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12 might be worth a read, since the shared space concept was pioneered there; https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=54843 is directly about

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

2017-10-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/10/2017 14:47, Adam Snape wrote: If a shared space is not a living street how should it be tagged? For "quiet lanes" (which are sort-of a rural analogue to urban "home zones") I went with "designation", and it looks like I'm not the only one:

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/10/2017 13:05, Andy Mabbett wrote: And now you're making things up. just two posts earlier in this thread you said > I don't think this kind of sarcastic hyperbole helps to move things > forward, nor to engender an atmosphere of collegial collaboration. > Please resist the temptation

Re: [Talk-GB] Access and other tags for a particular Restricted Byway

2017-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2017 19:40, Philip Barnes wrote: Each needs a case by case survey, any can be motor_vehicle=private or destination. I don't think that's what http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/PRoW_Table is trying to say - it's saying "there are no motor vehicle rights granted by the

Re: [Talk-GB] Access and other tags for a particular Restricted Byway

2017-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2017 14:06, David Woolley wrote: 2. In white on green: RESTRICTED BYWAY/PRIVATE ROAD/NO vehicle access except for residents.  I should appreciate views on the motor_vehicle=private Does the sign really mean "no vehicle access" or "no motor vehicle access"? As I

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/09/2017 07:15, Stefano wrote: We used this library to process the dump and then we add the results in pgsql https://www.entropywins.wtf/blog/2015/11/08/wikidata-wikibase-json-dump-reader/ https://github.com/osmItalia/wikidata-geo-match What would the requirement of a wikidata2pgsql

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2017 17:14, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: * Problem #1:  In my analysis of OSM data, wikipedia tags quickly go stale because they use Wikipedia page titles, and titles are constantly renamed, deleted, and what's worse - old names are reused for new meanings.  This is a fundamental problem

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/09/2017 11:13, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 28 September 2017 at 09:53, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: "objects named after Leuven" I'd have thought that this sort of "extra non-geographical information" was better held outside of OSM, and then link ba

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/09/2017 10:36, Marc Gemis wrote: Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each street, so someone can create an external list of streets with Wikidata ids to represent some kind of collection (like "all streets named after Leuven") ? Firstly I'm not saying "what is

[OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM (was: Overlapping brands)

2017-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/09/2017 09:28, Jo wrote: All OSM objects with a name (in several languages) referring to a city. More zoomed in: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/s20 ... except that it isn't necessarily "all objects" - it's "a list of objects in OSM manually curated by you".  You're still going to have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/09/2017 18:08, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:   When data consumers want to get a link to corresponding wikipedia article, doing that with wikipedia[:xx] tags is straightforward. Doing the same with wikidata requires additional pointless and time consuming abrakadabra. no, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2017 19:47, Marc Gemis wrote: Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Simply because some people had suggested that "brand:wikidata" was unnecessary because you could always work out what brand

[OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2017 15:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; it is not sufficient to tell you whether these are multiple locations of the same brand, or two unrelated brands that share the same name and category of business. Can anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/09/2017 03:40, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: ... I have been blocked by Andy Townsend with the following message. Let's begin at the beginning - this was a "0-hour block" - you weren't prevented from using the API for _any_ period of time, merely forced to read this mes

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2017 14:53, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: If not Latin, then why English? Why not French? Well _obviously_ the answer is Esperanto.  There are a few Esperanto enthusiasts adding names to OSM (see e.g. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name%3Aeo and

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" on Dartmoor

2017-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2017 13:36, SK53 wrote: When this thread first started I thought we could work to remove these multiple meanings, but having seen what places with natural=heath from Corine imported-data in the Cevennes,  suspect that this is an unrealistic objective. Well just because one bad

Re: [OSM-talk] Wheelchair accessibility

2017-09-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/09/2017 13:19, Clifford Snow wrote: ... which makes it difficult for some people in wheelchairs to access. Even though the requirement is there, I would probably mark it as inaccessible. Funnily enough, someone at a recent OSM East Mids meetup mentioned exactly that sort of issue -

Re: [Talk-GB] Teaching OSM

2017-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/09/2017 15:01, Dave F wrote: On 10/09/2017 11:13, Jez Nicholson wrote: Is http://learnosm.org/en/ the best resource for a 1-hour beginners' introduction? I'm sorry, but mentioning "non-government organisations" in the *beginners* *introduction* in the *first* paragraph is laughable

Re: [Talk-GB] Teaching OSM

2017-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/09/2017 11:13, Jez Nicholson wrote: Is http://learnosm.org/en/ the best resource for a 1-hour beginners' introduction? If you're trying to get people editing OSM I'd probably lean more on the iD walkthrough than that does, to be honest - and you'd need to rip a lot out of that to fit

Re: [talk-au] Issues with a user putting back incorrect tags

2017-09-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/09/2017 04:40, Ross Scanlon wrote: Contact the Data Working Group Yes - there's a "I've seen a problem; what should I do?" section on http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group which might help. In this case the user has replied to changeset discussion comments in the

Re: [Talk-GB] The "heath mapper in Wales" is back

2017-09-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/09/2017 16:17, Andy Moore wrote: I'm not sure it's the same mapper as before but the end result is the same with massive areas mis-mapped and tagged, inaccurately even by the mapper's own admissions with all the FIXME tags. The thing that suggests to me that it's the same mapper is

Re: [Talk-us] The Republic of Molossia (and other micro-nations)

2017-09-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/09/2017 23:51, Bradley White wrote: Within the past few months, this "nation" has popped into OSM, complete with sloppily implemented "admin_level=2" and "boundary=national" tags, view-able here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/39.32281/-119.53908. My discussion point is whether this

[Talk-GB] The "heath mapper in Wales" is back

2017-09-03 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi everyone, Back in February there was a discussion here about problems by large heath areas added by a "new" user - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-February/019895.html . The same problem is happening again.  It's a different user account, but their mapping and the

Re: [Talk-it] "CC-BY" and "CC-BY-IT" licences

2017-09-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/09/2017 16:11, Andrea Musuruane wrote: They pointed to a summary of the CC-BY 2.5 license written in Italian. AFAIK this doesn't mean anything. The original English CC-BY 2.5 written in English still applies. Thanks everyone - that helps a lot. Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM feature density vs edits per features

2017-09-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/09/2017 10:55, Neil Matthews wrote: Not a member of the London OSM community, but... Also, do you think that there might also be an effect from "visiting" OSM contributors to an area? I used to regularly walk to/from occasional meetings with companies in London and map items on the

[Talk-it] "CC-BY" and "CC-BY-IT" licences

2017-09-01 Thread Andy Townsend
asking if anyone can point me at any details for this licence. Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group (Traduzione automatica) Ciao cartografi italiani, Il DWG è stato recentemente chiesto di alcuni dati importati in OSM sotto una licenza "CC-BY-IT". Il re

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/08/2017 14:18, Lester Caine wrote: The starting point is the raw data in OSM ... but when something does not look right in using that data just where do you start? I know my own problems are mainly how the data is used and if I had more time I would look to adjust the assumptions to give

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/08/2017 11:49, Richard wrote: it would become an OSM problem if someone decides to tag this road with maxspeed:practical=60. A router may then decide to route you to this route instead of some alternative that would be much faster for people who decide to respect speed limits at schools.

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

2017-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2017 12:23, Colin Smale wrote:  What would a "local" answer? Good luck getting a consistent answer to that :) http://ma3t.co.uk/euanmills/euanmills/tifd.html Best Regards, Andy (and apologies in advance for anyone upset by small-font profanity in the link)

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

2017-08-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/08/2017 19:22, Brian Prangle wrote: But even local authorities and the OS get into hot water over names !(but to be fair this is a placename rather than a street name with a verifiable sign) As a

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

2017-08-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/08/2017 15:04, Marc Gemis wrote: So how can you determine the preferred name from looking at that sign ? From looking at the sign, you can't - but if you visit a place and open your eyes and ears it'll become pretty obvious. If you walk into a shop or a post office in the pointy bits

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

2017-08-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/08/2017 14:53, Marc Gemis wrote: Can I translate this to the Belgian situation to see if I understand you correctly ? Marc, Everywhere is not like Belgium. Could you try answering the question? Where there is a locally preferred name, how would I know what that was? Best Regards,

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

2017-08-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/08/2017 17:19, Brian Prangle wrote: ... and goes to the first source of what is seen to be the authoritative source - the wiki- to seek guidance, Unfortunately, the wiki isn't always "the authoritative source". Articles written there include both "descriptive" and "prescriptive"

Re: [Talk-us] anyone know what software is generating these Q/A Notes?

2017-08-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/08/2017 00:45, Rihards wrote: seems to be streetcomplete, although i thought it edited osm data I did try and discuss this sort of problem with the author over at https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/351 - specifically to say that someone running StreetComplete should

Re: [Talk-GB] Latest OS Opendata

2017-08-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/08/2017 12:44, Dave F wrote: Interesting, if only to note it's inaccuracies: a few parks are missing half of their full area in my locale. Is National Trust/CRoW land in a separate database? Actually, looking at NT land near me is pretty interesting - what is included and what is

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

2017-07-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/07/2017 14:26, Stuart Reynolds wrote: I have also come across several styles of station tagging, even in my local (single line) area. What'd be really useful, actually, would someone pointing at a good "example station" in an OSM diary entry or similar and explain how the various bits

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/07/2017 16:27, Greg Morgan wrote: I've seen the DWG go after real newbies because they are exited and want to make a difference but make a few mistakes. Have you got an example of that (offlist if it would be preferable)? A significant amount of my DWG time is spent trying to persuade

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

2017-07-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/07/2017 12:05, Bob Hawkins wrote: Ed I must not have made clear the situation: the bridleway is coincident with the borders of two parishes, carrying a route code for each parish, not a way crossing parish boundaries. Bob I can vaguely remember an example in Lincolnshire where the

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

2017-06-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/06/2017 22:42, Andrew Hain wrote: Have you tried politely making changeset comments asking this? (just in case anyone's unaware that it exists) http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=Nepal#8/27.529/86.310 shows this week's changeset discussion comments centred on Nepal. Best

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping archaeology in towns

2017-06-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/06/2017 11:24, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Neil Matthews wrote: ... Maybe other large historic towns have good solutions; Londinium, Eboracum? I've always understood that OpenStreetMap maps what is *currently* there. Visible, and verifyable. That's pretty much the case

Re: [Talk-us] New Carto rendering of waterway=stream, intermittent=yes

2017-05-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/05/2017 20:50, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: In a word, "yuk." It was a rendering faux pas rather than deliberate, and should (shortly) be fixed: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-May/078041.html Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [talk-au] Tagging - World Solar Challenge - Darwin to Adelaide

2017-05-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/05/2017 11:19, Alex Sims wrote: I’m not quite sure how to resolve this. There is a relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7107501#map=5/-24.173/134.723 for the World Solar Challenge that runs from Darwin to Adelaide. It is a relation tagged as highway=raceway I don't think

Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import

2017-05-07 Thread Andy Townsend
Anyone got any more comments about this import and the points raised below? We (the DWG) got a complaint about it at the time (and there were a lot of "not in my name" comments on this list and on IRC), but there don't seem to have been any further comments since 27th April. Best Regards,

[OSM-co] Doodles in the middle of the jungle / Garabatos en medio de la selva

2017-05-03 Thread Andy Townsend
this user are at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=2400609 . Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group (Traducción aproximada) Se ha eliminado ahora, pero alguien que usa la cuenta "opengislab" ha vuelto a doodling (puede

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam/Marketing manipulation of mapping data

2017-04-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/04/2017 14:27, Paul Berry wrote: I suspect that, as a marketing company, they know exactly what they're doing I suspect that too... I'll revert the changeset (47688939) if no action in 7 days. Since it's renamed part of Leeds, which is obviously wrong, I'd revert it now. Cheers,

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam/Marketing manipulation of mapping data

2017-04-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/04/2017 14:08, Paul Berry wrote: Hi, I presume egregious additions such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40235088 can just be reverted, deleted, or otherwise reduced in impact (eg converting to a POI rather than an area) without further comment or is there a procedure for this?

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging and rendering of television masts

2017-04-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/04/2017 13:51, Greg Troxel wrote: However, if one renders and one doesn't, in the default style, that's a bug, and presumably someone can make a pull request to fix it - it seems obviously uncontroversial. You'd have thought so, but a project maintainer closed exactly that issue at

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering national/regional walking trails

2017-04-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/04/17 11:43, Elizabeth Oldham wrote: ... But I still get only a few labels rendered. My stylesheet for rendering ldpnwn is similar to yours. So I'm kind of confused as to where the magic is that places multiple labels instead of just a few? The "text-spacing" settings below

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering national/regional walking trails

2017-04-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/04/2017 20:43, Elizabeth Oldham wrote: Anyway. I noticed on your maps you have multiple ldpnwn labels along the routes, like the Cumbria Way, and Coast to Coast. I've been unable to get more than one or two labels. I've been searching but it's usually the other way around - you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging and rendering of television masts

2017-04-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/04/2017 07:33, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: It is possible to map it as: "man_made=mast", "height=190", etc., then it will be rendered. In the general case, please don't suggest that people mistag things just so that one particular renderer (one that probably isn't used by the majority of

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging and rendering of television masts

2017-04-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/04/2017 22:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: the Sutton Coldfield (England) TV mast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_Coldfield_transmitting_station at: http://www.opensntreetmap.org/?mlat=37.08321=-8.13643#map=17/37.0832/-8.1364 That's the one in Portugal, I think? Sutton

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering national/regional walking trails

2017-04-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/04/2017 11:26, Elizabeth Oldham wrote: I am trying to render the national and regional walking trails. These are done as relations, with tags like network=rwn so easy to pick out. When I render them I find there are alternative routes, as an example the Coast to Coast Walk splits into 3

Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import

2017-04-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/04/2017 16:12, Brian Prangle wrote: On the subject of fixing things, my block seems to have been precipitated by my not participating in changeset discussions of which I still remain oblivious because apparently the automatic email notification system breaks randomly and it seems I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for "primary language" map

2017-04-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/04/2017 00:55, James wrote: Also have you checked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory A bit offtopic, but it's worth mentioning that that is exactly what it says it is - a list of "oficial languages", not what language is actually spoken

Re: [Talk-it] utente sempre lui

2017-04-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2017 18:49, Daniele Gitto wrote: Solo per segnalare che l'utente bloccato si è iscritto ieri con username オプンストリトマップ. Vediamo se è guarito (ma è già partito con la prima fontanella "Fontanella" :-) Indeed, the editing style looks identical. As before I'd suggest that people

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering Stiles

2017-04-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/04/2017 20:12, Michael Booth wrote: Might be worth commenting on this issue about adding kissing gate/stile icons, with any suggestions for rendering them on the standard layer: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/846 To be honest, as the last comment there says,

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering Stiles

2017-04-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/04/2017 10:09, Ian Caldwell wrote: One of the reasons I think he was adding name="stile". is that stiles are not rendered on the standard map. Is there are web based map that does render stiles? I cannot find one. Sure:

Re: [Talk-GB] StyleSheet for Outdoors Rendering

2017-04-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/04/2017 18:08, Graham Jones wrote: One more thing. Does anyone have a way of generating a map key from a carto style? Otherwise I might have to write something. You might want to start with https://github.com/gravitystorm/mapnik-legendary . Not sure how far that progressed, or what

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