Re: [talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

2019-01-21 Thread Warin
On 22/01/19 12:03, Sam Wilson wrote: On 1/21/19 4:58 PM, Warin wrote: I have used (misused?) the ref to tag the routes that use that bus stop, then some one has put the stop 'number' in as local_ref. Possibly the stop number is a 'operator_ref' ... whatever, no practical use to the normal

Re: [talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

2019-01-21 Thread Warin
the secondary benefit of being more likely to render out in a crowded space. The other detail perhaps being better suited to the corresponding bus_station node/area/relation. Else, +1 from me, the proposal seems useful to me as a smart refinement of local practice. Mike On

Re: [talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

2019-01-21 Thread Warin
Are there anydissenters? I'll give it a week. Any feed back from other places In Australia? On 21/01/19 20:00, cleary wrote: As a regular user of public transport, I agree. On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Warin wrote: Hi, At present the names of bus stops goes something like name

Re: [talk-au] Our work in last two weeks

2019-01-21 Thread Warin
of the road, rather than have them as a single way. On 22 January 2019 8:23:35 am AEDT, "Nemanja Bračko" wrote: @Warin, I personally do not see why is it wrong if you split? It is just two segments merged in one node. Geometry and data are exactly the same just it is r

Re: [talk-au] Our work in last two weeks

2019-01-21 Thread Warin
On 22/01/19 02:45, Nemanja Bračko wrote: I agree on that, but that's the way how this tool works. So you will have to accept that the tool is wrong and ignore its output. Altering the map to comply with a tool that is wrong is wrong. On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 4:32 PM Marc Gemis

[talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

2019-01-20 Thread Warin
Hi, At present the names of bus stops goes something like name=Strathfield Station, Albert Rd (Stand F). The web transport trip planers direct you to Stand F, yet this is not very visiblein OSM renderings as that information is last. Would it not be best to have the name put the more

Re: [talk-au] OSM Carto features are missing on the map outside the Europe and in rural places.

2019-01-19 Thread Warin
On 19/01/19 18:42, nwastra wrote: On the OSM Forum > Rendering maps OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org ) kokio mentioned that are discussing currently what features are missing on the map outside the Europe and in rural places. I thought this might be an opportunity

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering Problems

2019-01-18 Thread Warin
On 18/01/19 20:49, Brian Prangle wrote: Has anyone else noticed problems with edits failing to render?. Stuff I did 2 days ago still not showing up I find a new entry goes through (zoomed in) fairly quickly Changed old stuff takes it time .. and is not consistent with the zoom level. If

Re: [Talk-GB] Notice from Bedford Borough Council about Church Lane, Yielden

2019-01-16 Thread Warin
On 16/01/19 18:39, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Bedford Borough Council has sent a letter to the OSMF regarding the "Application for the Stopping Up of Public Vehicular Rights over Part of Unclassified Road U6 (Church Lane; Yielden) in the Parish of Melchbourne and Yielden, in the Country Of

Re: [Talk-GB] account disabled due to bounces

2019-01-14 Thread Warin
On 14/01/19 20:09, Jez Nicholson wrote: I get the occasional email from Talk-GB telling me that my email address has excessive bounces. I'm using gmail. Am I the only one with problems? Is there something I need to change? I get the same. I enquired once and was told it was something to do

Re: [Talk-GB] I have a philosophical question...

2019-01-13 Thread Warin
On 14/01/19 10:09, BD wrote: Hi All, I do make my little contribution to the effort of OSM. Recently I added some data to Mapillary and consider adding more (for the use of other mappers). After reading someone's OSM profile I started to think and now have some doubts... We (mappers) are

Re: [talk-au] Access tagging for dogs

2019-01-13 Thread Warin
On 13/01/19 20:31, Philip Mallis wrote: Hi all, I am looking at a few areas in parks across Melbourne where dogs are prohibited (e.g. through this gate to Kew Billabong: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1072284074) I’ve tried looking in a few places for guidance, but there isn’t

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Warin
On 11/01/19 21:45, Markus wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 07:40, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: See below two cases where we would simplify the geometry: * -32.0914374, 116.0129206 Is seen no big problem in how the roads are layed out there. Coming

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Warin
On 11/01/19 19:51, John Berkers wrote: Long time lurker, some time editor. It is my understanding that marked "turn right only lanes" are not cause to create divergent ways.  These should be tagged using the "lanes" key as per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes Creating divergent

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Warin
A left turn there would be legal, unless there is a local sign. So I would not place a turn restriction on it base on satellite imagery. On 12/01/19 07:47, Jem wrote: Spot on. Although the routing engine data could impose a turn restriction here based upon geometry as part of their data

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

2019-01-09 Thread Warin
Even if it were open .. does OSM want it? I don't see any specific tags for it? And you do want to have them accurate and up to date. --- Example of inaccurate property extent problems .. from Australia -

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

2019-01-09 Thread Warin
On 10/01/19 07:17, Andy Townsend wrote: On 09/01/2019 18:11, Jez Nicholson wrote: Seeking your input... One thing that struck me when I had to start planning for getting from A to B with someone on a mobility scooter or in a wheelchair was that the "obvious" things (kerbs etc.) weren't the

Re: [talk-au] Editing kickoff Australia Zealand

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
On 04/01/19 18:07, Horea Meleg wrote: Hi everyone! This is Horea and I am part of the mapping team at Telenav. To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, our mapping team is planning to start editing in Australia/New Zealand. Starting this January until June we will

Re: [talk-au] NSW bus routes from opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au

2019-01-03 Thread Warin
On 04/01/19 13:17, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 09:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I was checking the use by another mapper of some Qld govt data for copyright when I noticed OSM has permission to use Static timetables, stop locations, and route shape infor

[talk-au] NSW bus routes from opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au

2019-01-03 Thread Warin
Hi, I was checking the use by another mapper of some Qld govt data for copyright when I noticed OSM has permission to use Static timetables, stop locations, and route shape information in "General Transit Feed Specification" from

Re: [talk-au] Drink bottle refund centres

2018-12-29 Thread Warin
There are 106 recycling:refund_bottles=yes in Norway. I was look at a way to say you got money back i.e. a refund. But I think the above is a poor way to do it. refund=no/yes/ and then similar values as for payment could be better. On 29/12/18 18:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: I agree that these

Re: [talk-au] Mapping opportunities along the Great North Walk

2018-12-27 Thread Warin
On 27/12/18 16:42, Ewen Hill wrote: Dion,    Thanks for your hard work to date and good luck with your trek. I am happy to help you off-line and this is open to conjecture however I would ... 1. Create a single master relation and attach all elements to this 2. Where the track may split into

Re: [talk-au] Mapping opportunities along the Great North Walk

2018-12-27 Thread Warin
It is visible and usable here https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=1388126=9!-33.3964!151.4204 This includes ; GPX file elevation profile Things to do? water sources toilets these are the two main things. other things? shops, cafes, public transport where missing. The route

Re: [talk-au] Simpson Desert

2018-12-22 Thread Warin
information in not very large type - think lots of reading on the relevant features of the map) and an information package covering driving etc. On 23/12/18 16:04, Warin wrote: Anyone travelling from the east will face 'big red' or 'little red' ... that sets the bar fairly high for them

Re: [talk-au] Simpson Desert

2018-12-22 Thread Warin
. A line on a map does not mean you should use it (permission for the Colson track has not been given for decades as far as I am aware) nor does it mean you can traverse it.That should be one of the first things you learn about a map. On 23/12/18 15:14, Phil Wyatt wrote: Thanks Warin It’s

[talk-au] Simpson Desert

2018-12-22 Thread Warin
Hi I have change Dalhousie from village to locality .. no permanentpopulation let alone any services here. The 'French Line' is tagged as 'tertiary' on the western side yet 'unclassified' on the eastern side. Both sides should be the same. In rendering terms I prefer 'tertiary'. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:barrier=kerb

2018-12-17 Thread Warin
On 17/12/18 19:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 17:09 Uhr schrieb Bryan Housel mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>>: The arrows indicate the “down” direction alongside certain kinds of ways. For example, cliffs, coastlines, retaining walls, kerbs, guard rails,

[talk-au] Simpson Desert QAA line

2018-12-15 Thread Warin
Hi To me the QAA line runs east -west. It does not include the tracks that run south off it. This change occurred in 2012 .. change set comment indicates it was done while the lake was flooded. While these tracks exist .. I don't think they carry the name 'QAA line'. I have 'named' theses

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundary-Line - Manchester political wards and related boundaries, dealing with inconsistent data

2018-12-13 Thread Warin
I have faced formal learning things by using tool A at first because it 'is easy', then the next year learning tool B because 'we' needed to do more complex things, then the next year learning tool C because 'we' needed to do the most complex things... on numerous subjects... taught in formal

Re: [talk-au] Goyder's Lagoon

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
call ephemeral? On 10/12/18 10:17, cleary wrote: Agree completely On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, at 10:02 AM, Warin wrote: Hi, I have made a rough entry for Goyder's Lagoon - South Aust. above Lake Eyre - about thesame size. The boundary is rough because, as you would expect, the rain fall determines

[talk-au] Goyder's Lagoon

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
Hi, I have made a rough entry for Goyder's Lagoon - South Aust. above Lake Eyre - about thesame size. The boundary is rough because, as you would expect, the rain fall determines where it is and that varies from fall to fall. Yes, it is tagged intermittent. I make the comment here so those

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-12-06 Thread Warin
On 06/12/18 14:44, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 11:43, Sigurjón Gísli Rúnarsson wrote: I have had some recent feedback regarding my changes to the ferry route paths in Sydney Harbour in August this year. I basically changed the mapping from single way approach to relation

[talk-au] Article on Oz place names..

2018-11-27 Thread Warin
Hi, BBC article on renaming Ozie places may be of interest to some https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46258060 Has links to a Welsh place with several different spellings, and to 'rude' place names in Oz. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-11-26 Thread Warin
Other routes use relations, and don't display on 'the map'. Bus routes, train routes, hiking, cycling all use relations and don't normally display on 'the map'. All of these do break up some of the ways into sections that are annoying for us to edit but it is needed for these routes (and other

[talk-au] OSM use by Sydney Bushturkey mapping

2018-11-21 Thread Warin
Just for interest - no copyright violation. This group are using OSM as the base map to plot bushturkey activities (in the Sydney region?). https://www.spotteron.com/brushturkeys/ There do appear to be some anomalies ... for example residential housing in the Simpson Desert ... :-D

Re: [talk-au] National Cycle Networks..

2018-11-02 Thread Warin
On 03/11/18 11:59, Ian Sergeant wrote: Hi, I've noticed over the past few years a National Cycle Network "creep" in Australia. Personally, I'm not sure that Australia has anything that would really count as a national cycleway network. This concept was developed in the UK and Europe where

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-11-02 Thread Warin
On 23/10/18 03:24, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 22. Oct 2018 16:59 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl : On 2018-10-22 16:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I strongly disagree, we map reality. There is no one true reality, only perceptions. There is both a true

Re: [OSM-talk] Zoom to search results on the map

2018-10-26 Thread Warin
On 26/10/18 17:26, Maarten Deen wrote: When you search on something in the searchbox on openstreetmap.org that returns multiple results, the map moves to the first result and when you hover over the result it displays a marker. But for all the other results, you need to click to see where it

[talk-au] Train and bus routes for PTv2

2018-10-11 Thread Warin
Hi, While some are concentrating on admin boundaries there are other things that can be done. One of which are public transport bus and train routes that are tagged as public_transport version 2 but are broken. These can be found using OSMinspector

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Thread Warin
PS While on coast lines ... computer model of the Kimberly coastline over a few thousand years.. looks like it is breathing. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-07/wa-coastline-transformed-by-sea-levels-over-thousands-of-years/10338500 On 07/10/18 11:22, cleary wrote: In regard to admin

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Thread Warin
On 07/10/18 11:22, cleary wrote: In regard to admin boundaries sharing the coastline, I think that would also be incorrect but I am less confident of my view on this. I did update some administrative boundaries in South Australia using the SA Government Data and those boundaries did not

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Thread Warin
On 06/10/18 21:34, Andrew Harvey wrote: Thanks for raising that. I'd seen some boundaries in WA defined in legislation as, follow this road, then that road etc. but I think that was for school zones. So the LGA and Suburb/Localities are defined by the cadastral plans then? I hear the points and

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Thread Warin
On 06/10/18 20:52, cleary wrote: In regard to administrative boundaries being attached to other features such as waterways and roads, I think it is a trade-off between accuracy and convenience. +1. If the admin boundaries use other features as there boundaries then it is the other feature

Re: [talk-au] Use of map data with no copyright?

2018-10-04 Thread Warin
On 05/10/18 11:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi On holidays last week & went into the local tourist info centre. Picked up a map showing various food & accommodation attractions in the area, together with a fairly detailed map of the region. I've gone over the entire sheet of paper & there

Re: [OSM-talk] Proximity

2018-09-28 Thread Warin
On 29/09/18 07:21, john whelan wrote: I drifted down to a government conference on open data and software today and whilst there a question came up concerning proximity to a hospital. Just a planner wondering where to put it to maximise the ease of access for as many people as possible.

Re: [OSM-talk] Waterway rel with mix of line & poly

2018-09-20 Thread Warin
On 21/09/18 06:11, Jem wrote: Thank you both. That's very helpful. On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 22:25, Dave F > wrote: Hi Short answer: Yes There's a few problems here: Relations should not be used to collect thing together. ? That is what

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-20 Thread Warin
On 20/09/18 20:53, Martin Wynne wrote: How can you verify it's the same stream? I can't.  I've deleted it. This raises the question of the maximum length of a culvert under a road, beyond which it is no longer permissible to map it as such. Under a country lane is ok? But under a motorway?

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

2018-09-19 Thread Warin
On 19/09/18 15:40, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: On 2018-09-18 09:26, Warin wrote: On 18/09/18 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Sep 2018, at 07:02, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Is there any clarification about the difference between loc_name and reg_name? in which

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

2018-09-19 Thread Warin
On 19/09/18 15:28, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Hi! Ok, basically I understand the difference between "local" and "regional". But actually I thought that this/these tags are used for names of entities which are used by locals (in contrast to the official name of something). In this case, having

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-18 Thread Warin
On 27/08/18 06:05, Martin Wynne wrote: I don't think it's for those who have mapped something in OSM to demonstrate majority support for its retention. I think it is for those seeking to have others' contributions removed to demonstrate a clear consensus in favour of deletion. Should this

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

2018-09-18 Thread Warin
On 18/09/18 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Sep 2018, at 07:02, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Is there any clarification about the difference between loc_name and reg_name? in which sense? Both tags are used for alternative names, local is smaller/narrower in

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

2018-09-07 Thread Warin
On 07/09/18 21:04, Mark Goodge wrote: On 07/09/2018 11:35, Martin Wynne wrote: You were suggesting identifying them by observation, using street lights as a distinguishing factor. Yes, in the event that you are uncertain. I said it was a useful indicator. But it's not a useful indicator,

Re: [talk-au] Australia maritime boundaries - import plan

2018-09-03 Thread Warin
Quibble; If the ways are not shared with anything else then it is fine. If the ways are shared .. then I think the source statement needs to go on the ways rather than the relation. This helps stop people moving them to match some physical feature. On 04/09/18 13:04, Andrew Harvey wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline and tidal rivers

2018-09-02 Thread Warin
On 29/08/18 01:46, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-08-28 16:43, David Groom wrote: whilst in theory I'd say yes, in practice I'd say consensus is hard to achieve. OK, I might as well give up now then. If everybody started thinking "I don't know why I bother," like I am now, where would we be?

Re: [OSM-talk] Extend natural=shingle tag also for city stone areas.

2018-08-31 Thread Warin
On 01/09/18 04:12, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: As we map different physical landcovers by eg. landuse=grass, landuse=forest No. landuse=forest is for managed areas .. not for a general tree area. use natural=wood (for the render). I place additional tags with these land cover features landuse=grass

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-08-31 Thread Warin
On 31/08/18 17:20, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 31/8/18 16:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: (not sure why the split across 9 and 10...? but it looks like no data for 9 and all suburb/localities are marked as 10, a separate discussion but perhaps they should be 9 and smaller neighbourhoods be in 10?)

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping horse steps?

2018-08-27 Thread Warin
On 27/08/18 23:28, Andy Townsend wrote: On 27/08/18 13:32, Edward Catmur wrote: amenity=horse_dismount_block has 4 occurrences, all in the north of England. I think I'm responsible for half of those - happy to pick a different tag if someone's got a better idea! There are actually a

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a hedge a wood?

2018-08-27 Thread Warin
On 28/08/18 04:00, Chris Hill wrote: On 27/08/2018 18:09, Martin Wynne wrote: Landuse=highway does have some usage, and certainly the term forbidden does not exist in OSM. There is no such thing as available, if you think a new tag is needed then you can use it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-24 Thread Warin
On 24/08/18 18:40, Rory McCann wrote: On 22/08/18 23:40, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 22 August 2018, Rory McCann wrote: The single most important property of an address is that it is unique 35% of addresses in Ireland aren't unique. I strongly suspect we have a different

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

2018-08-23 Thread Warin
On 24/08/18 03:49, Philip Barnes wrote: On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 07:51 +1000, Warin wrote: If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared

Re: [talk-au] Using data from traditional owners of the land / Current waiver form

2018-08-23 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 20:37, Ewen Hill wrote: It's an interesting conundrum that perhaps going forward we need to flag how we deal with sacred areas and knowledge that should be respected by not being mapped. Some of the problem is that in signifying and area as 'not to be mapped' it may draw

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 11:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Aug 2018, at 22:28, Christoph Hormann wrote: Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address is either pointless or non-verifiable. as I explained above, we don’t add address tags to buildings in

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 09:18, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2018, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Usually the places without a housenumber here have some kind of intrinsic distinctiveness/uniqueness. For example, an airport located in a road (there won't be 2 airports at the same road), some

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 02:37, Andreas Vilén wrote: Please don’t use name=no name. Use noname=yes. +1 name= is for the name only. If it has no name then the tag name= should not be used. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 22 aug. 2018 kl. 17:17 skrev Nelson A. de Oliveira : What is the best way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared by this barrier? Horses? How badly are pedestrians impeded? What about people in wheelchairs? So

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 19:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those outlines

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 17:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

2018-08-15 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 09:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: barrier=block is intended for barriers, i.e. they block a highway. Blocks for decorative or recreational purposes arranged at squares or on the side of streets are not covered by the tag. -1 for the proposed change. Blocks are increasing used

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
On 06/08/18 06:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. Road names and numbers would surely fall within that. I'm not suggesting copying the document and posting it verbatim. There was a long and costly court

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

2018-08-04 Thread Warin
On 04/08/18 20:06, Andy Townsend wrote: "Public right of way references, along with stiles and kissing gates, are for example rendered on Andy Townsend's specialist walking map." That already has an idea about "unsigned names and refs" and at some point I'll add various unsigned road refs in

[Talk-GB] landuse=scrub wood

2018-07-28 Thread Warin
Hi, I'm presently targeting low use, inappropriate and non rendering values of landuse. Presently looking at landuse=scrub .. as a human use of the land I don't think scrub is one. It is a land cover and would be better tagged as natural=scrub, it makes sense and it renders! While

Re: [talk-au] Shared Zones

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 16:40, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/07/18 16:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: Okay so I guess we still need to use some local judgement? I thought we were discussing shared zones here? They are clearly sign posted so I wouldn't have thought that there would be a problem identifying

Re: [talk-au] Shared Zones

2018-07-17 Thread Warin
Disagree .. Australian 'shared zone' does not appear on the OSM wiki .. there should be some reference to it being a 'living_street' in OSM terms. Perhaps it can go as well on the 'living_street' page as there is already a German equivalent statement there. On 17/07/18 17:38, Ian Sergeant

[talk-au] landuse=sand

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
There are some 500 landuse=sand in the data base. This is not good. Some of these are tagged together with golf=bunker and leisure=playground .. they should be tagged with surface=sand. Some are the only tag on the way and should be re-tagged natural=sand. I have already changed a few.

[talk-au] Voting for a tag for emergency airstrips is now open

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
Hi, For those of you not on the tagging list, the voting for a method of tagging emergency airstrips - like the RFDS strips you find on roadways around the country - is open. Vote by logging on to the omswiki on the page

[talk-au] Water into Lake Eyre from ABC

2018-07-15 Thread Warin
Hi, The ABC has put together a sequence of water flowing in to Lake Eyre from satelliteviews .. I thought it may be of some interestto us 'locals'. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-26/lake-eyre-and-the-ancient-rhythms-of-our-red-centre/9864010 You need to scroll on the image to go

Re: [talk-au] Pathogen Control Stations

2018-07-15 Thread Warin
. On 16/07/18 12:53, Jonathon Rossi wrote: Looks like the discussion on the tagging list has gone quiet, did you settle on what to tag these? On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 11:02 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 30 June 2018 at 09:57, Warin <61sundow...@

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-14 Thread Warin
The important part of that past talk thread was the question as to changing the wiki grandstand definition to say that it must have a roof rather than usually has a roof. Unfortunately both the Oxford Dictionary and Wikipedia say 'usually roofed'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandstand So

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-14 Thread Warin
To me a grandstand has a roof and probably a back wall. A 'bleacher' has no roof nor walls .. it is simply seating totally exposed to the elements. On 14/07/18 16:23, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: Currently, we (de facto) have 2 tags for the same feature, which is not a proper state.

Re: [Talk-GB] University of Northampton new campus - mapper required

2018-07-13 Thread Warin
Rather than point as to what not to do .. it would be best to point to what to do. So where is the 'best' OSM mapped university? Use that as an example of what to do. On 14/07/18 08:26, Dan S wrote: I hope this is not too much of a side-issue, but: one hopeful request - plase don't use

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2018-07-09 Thread Warin
On 09/07/18 18:35, Christoph Hormann wrote: And if you want to know about how to successfully map and build a local mapping community in a large and sparsely populated country and are fed up with the namby-pamby western Europeans who don't know a thing about this maybe talk to the Russians...

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-07-07 Thread Warin
Final got the federal govt "Style Manual" and looked through it. The only bit on St and Saint is that they should be treated the same in an index .. the St should be expanded for the listing order but printed as St. There are a number of places where examples are given for some other things

Re: [talk-au] Australian Marine Parks Import

2018-07-06 Thread Warin
On 06/07/18 18:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: I'm okay with updating as you see fit. On 6 July 2018 at 16:48, Lee Mason > wrote: source:geography=CAPAD 2016 source:name=Commonwealth Marine Reserves Review Could you use `source:geometry` it's used over 1M

Re: [OSM-talk] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

2018-07-02 Thread Warin
On 02/07/18 18:52, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 02.07.2018 10:24, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: churning out buildings like demented stonemasons trying to reach their weekly quota of gamified task-managing ! I recently stumbled upon https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-6.8958/39.1623

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Warin
On 30/06/18 01:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
On 30/06/18 15:08, Yves wrote: While there is a lot of things said here in this thread, I notice that: 1 there is very little advice in the article on how to enter names in OSM. 2 there no comment on the blog that would give advice on how to enter names in OSM. It would be the right time if

Re: [talk-au] Pathogen Control Stations

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
: Thanks Warin, I read your suggestion for "man_made=boot_cleansing", I'd opt for "man_made=shoe_cleansing" since I don't wear boots but running shoes as a runner not a hiker. The QPWS web site mentions "footwear", I think shoe would be the most inclusive ter

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
On 29/06/18 21:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Warin wrote: I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English language. It is expressly _incorrect_ in British English and if this were a UK discussion you would be asked to put them back to St. I can't speak for Australian

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
tps://trove.nla.gov.au/work/13429246?q=Style+manual=book=holdings+desc&_=1530259987708=253708876> On 29/06/18 18:03, Warin wrote: Many church names in Australia have names containing 'Saint' followed by a persons name these are are commonly abbreviated 'St'.

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
Many church names in Australia have names containing 'Saint' followed by a persons name these are are commonly abbreviated 'St'. I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English language. I don't think the alt_name should carry the abbreviation, nor an expanded version.

Re: [talk-au] Pathogen Control Stations

2018-06-28 Thread Warin
Don't know - nothing in OSM I can see. I'll ask on the tagging list and see what they say. Note .. it may well not render/show up on the maps for sometime even once there is a tag and there are a few 100 mapped. On 28/06/18 21:49, Jonathon Rossi wrote: Throughout the Gold Coast Hinterland

Re: [talk-au] State names

2018-06-24 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 16:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: G'day The latest (?) upgrade to iD reformatted the address fields to suit Oz addresses & also introduced a State field to be entered. Question & policy decision needed here please :-) Queensland / Qld / QLD? How should we be entering our State

Re: [talk-au] Got an email from Royal Geographical Society of QLD about Boundaries

2018-06-21 Thread Warin
Yes to OHM. However some of the present day boundaries have there origins in the original boundaries, so some of them may be useful in OSM too. As there are 'pastoral' boundaries they would be seen as 'farms' in OHS/M terms, not an administrative boundary - except where that occurs. See

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-20 Thread Warin
second per address is optimistic. And people will get sick of it. So there will be a sporadic participation rate. Could be wrong. Dion Moult ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 18, 2018 9:23 PM, Dion Moult wrote: On June 18, 2018 8:56 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-18 Thread Warin
On 18/06/18 20:30, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 18 June 2018 at 19:21, Dion Moult > wrote: Thanks Andrew for your reply! 1. Thanks for the link to the import guidelines. My responses to the import guidelines below: First up I think any changesets that

Re: [talk-au] Increased precision options for Australia - QZSS, SBAS or Galileo

2018-06-11 Thread Warin
On 12/06/18 13:05, nwastra wrote: There is expected to be improved gps accuracy in a few years time in Australia but unsure if usual gps units used by the public will show improved results but I expect they will. http://www.ga.gov.au/news-events/news/latest-news/ceo-statement-on-budget-2018-19

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-05 Thread Warin
On 06/06/18 08:51, Dion Moult wrote: Thanks Andrew et all, Yes, I have used the ESRI imagery layer. Thanks for the heads up of the LPI base map. Before I go too far, can one of you please look at the work I've done so far if I'm doing things correctly? Here is a small sample in the suburb of

Re: [talk-au] Perth Canning Rv wetland Relation: 8337801

2018-06-05 Thread Warin
On 05/06/18 14:59, Ian Steer wrote: Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 10:15:02 +1000 From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> To: talk-au Subject: [talk-au] Perth Canning Rv wetland Relation: 8337801 Hi, I have repaired Relation: 8337801 - wetland marsh that had been altered by an Apple

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Warin
On 04/06/18 18:51, Maarten Deen wrote: Less than a second to something usable? Sure, it displays the O logo within a second, but on my phone (quad core 1.3 GHz ARM Cortex A7) it takes about 10 seconds to get to anything usable. +1 .. probably 30 seconds on my old phone with a map of some 200M.

Re: [talk-au] I made my own administrative boarder for the City of Ipswich

2018-06-04 Thread Warin
E ... in your changeset you state source=OSM Data, Local Knowledge, Wikipedia Wikipedia is not allowed.. not comparable with OSM licensing. How much of this changeset needs to be undone??? On 04/06/18 16:32, Warin wrote: On 04/06/18 16:16, Joel H. wrote: Just letting the mailing list

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