[OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs, such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning' How do people tag these roads? For which of these would you use access=private?

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads (Matthijs Melissen)

2014-08-03 Thread Volker Schmidt
Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs, such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning' How do people tag these roads? For which of these would you use

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 3 August 2014 11:18, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs, such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning' How do

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Colin Smale
It depends whether a right of way exists. Things are rather complicated in the UK. Private means private, so no entry by default. If you are visiting an address on a private road, you have presumably been invited, explicitly or implicitly. An unofficial sign residents only might not have any

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads (Matthijs Melissen)

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 12:18, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto: I would tag them all with access=destination, unless there are additional signs that forbid entering. A private road is privately owned and maintained, but you normally may use it to reach the

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-08-03 11:00, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs, such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning' How do people tag these roads?

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Colin Smale
As this discussion is about UK specifics, I thought it would be a good plan to reach out to the talk-GB list. --colin On 2014-08-03 16:44, Colin Smale wrote: On 2014-08-03 16:24, Craig Wallace wrote: On 2014-08-03 11:00, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Residential roads in the UK often seem

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/08/14 15:49, Colin Smale wrote: As this discussion is about UK specifics, I thought it would be a good plan to reach out to the talk-GB list. The only things I would say you can commonly assume from such signs are that the road is unadopted, and that the residents/owners would like you

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/08/14 17:02, Tom Hughes wrote: See, for example: http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/atoz/a_to_z/service.asp?u_id=1065tab=3siteid=5409pageid=29027e=e http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn00402.pdf is also informative. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/

[OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts

2014-08-03 Thread john whelan
I was talking to someone who worked with one of the Agencies that used the data in the field and he was saying how great it was. However he said that the map started to appear after three of four days which struck me as a little odd. I understood HOT starts very quickly within hours and since we

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts

2014-08-03 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi John, In general, the tiles are updated to the minute. Looking at my edits this morning after a few minutes, tiles were refreshed both for the OSM and Humanitarian layers. I press F5 to refresh the screen and obtain the new tiles in the navigator. For OSMAnd, updates may vary. For major

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts

2014-08-03 Thread john whelan
Thank you for your input, that was roughly in line with my expectations but for some reason didn't seem to match the person's experience in the field, it could have been some time ago. Thanks John On 3 August 2014 12:40, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi John, In general, the tiles

[OSM-talk] Fixing common possible Tagging Mistakes

2014-08-03 Thread Andreas Goss
I have been trying to document all the common tags for keys like amenity, shop, craft etc. in the Wiki using TagInfo. In the process I found several low usage tags that might have other matching well established tags. I put a small section with a Taginfo box and Overpass API link on those

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the USA, it depends upon whether the property owner has given permission for public use. If a private road through an apartment complex is signed as residents and guests only, for example, an outsider driving through can be charged with trespassing. On August 3, 2014 6:50:55 AM CDT, Colin

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread john whelan
In the UK there are rights of way which date back in time to the days of pack horses and long distance footpaths. I don't think you have the equivalent in North America. So in the UK a right of way may still follow a privately maintained road. It's probably better to leave the tagging of this

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread john whelan
Whilst I think of it there are some footpaths and roads in the UK which are open to the public on 364 days a year but closed one day a year to prevent them from becoming a public right of way. Cheerio John On 3 August 2014 21:47, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: In the UK there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Kevin Broderick
It varies by jurisdiction within the U.S., too; Vermont has an Ancient Roads doctrine that has kept many right-of-ways legally open despite towns no longer maintaining them. It gets a bit more complicated in that some of them are posted contrary to their legal status, and the only way to

Re: [Talk-it] Relation non chiusa

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto Nogaro
Non so darti una risposta generale alla domanda (la vorrei sapere anch'io). Nel caso specifico, se sulla pagina web della relazione clicchi su Visualizza cronologia vedi la storia della relazione. Qui si nota che due way sono listate fino alla versione #2 con una linea a metà altezza che significa

Re: [Talk-it] Relation non chiusa

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: Tommaso Grenga [mailto:tommasogre...@yahoo.it] Sent: domenica 3 agosto 2014 00:10 To: Talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-it] Relation non chiusa Buona sera Volevo chiedervi qual'è sia l'approccio migliore e il tool da utilizzare ( josm, web o altro ) per

Re: [Talk-it] sentiero non percorribile con gpsies.com (gruppo del Carega - VR)

2014-08-03 Thread scratera
Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi wrote Forse il problema era quel sac_scale=hiking_biking. Ho notato che anche su altri percorsi che ce l'avevano il routing non funziona con graphhopper. Adesso li ho corretti tutti, bisogna aspettare che aggiornino i dati ma non vedo ogni quanto lo fanno Ciao

Re: [Talk-it] sentiero non percorribile con gpsies.com (gruppo del Carega - VR)

2014-08-03 Thread Alessandro
Il 03/08/2014 19:47, scratera ha scritto: ...ricordo che non si mappa per il routing...se quel sentiero è sac_scale=hiking_biking ...quello deve restare... Ma il valore hiking_biking non esiste! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale ___

Re: [Talk-it] sentiero non percorribile con gpsies.com (gruppo del Carega - VR)

2014-08-03 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno dom, 03/08/2014 alle 10.47 -0700, scratera ha scritto: Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi wrote Forse il problema era quel sac_scale=hiking_biking. Ho notato che anche su altri percorsi che ce l'avevano il routing non funziona con graphhopper. Adesso li ho corretti tutti, bisogna

Re: [Talk-it] Carta tecnica Comune di Lecce

2014-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 02/ago/2014, alle ore 13:42, Leonardo Frassetto kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi puoi linkare la pagina che butto un'occhiata? Grazie! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:telecom http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:telecom%3Dcross-connect

Re: [Talk-hr] Nestao Zaprešić

2014-08-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
Inače sad sam našao još bolji alat za traženje povijesti: http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/ Možeš odabrati datum od kad do kad tražiš promjene. Koristi novi Overpass-ov Attic api. Sjajna stvarčica. Dana 31. srpnja 2014. u 00:33 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Dana 30. srpnja

[OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-08-03 Thread Mikel Maron
Hello A few days ago I commented But what discussion on legal-talk does not provide is a mechanism for ascertaining a representative community opinion on the spirit of the license; nor a legally qualified opinion on interpretation options; nor a governance mechanism for resolving the proposal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-08-03 Thread Simon Poole
Am 03.08.2014 16:16, schrieb Mikel Maron: ... If it is the understanding of the OSM Foundation, that the Legal Working Group in some ways functions like a Court, then there are several issues to raise about the separation of concerns, checks and balances if you will, in this process as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-08-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Admin note: nominally I'm administrator of the legal-talk@ list. In practice the only international OSM list to ever have been announced as moderated is talk@, and I think locally talk-us@ may be moderated as well. Merely administered is a much more light-touch approach and generally works well

[OSM-talk-nl] OSM verjaardagsfeestje

2014-08-03 Thread Henk Hoff
Hoi allen, Zoals jullie waarschijnlijk weten bestaat OSM de komende week 10 jaar. Ik wil voorstellen om komende zaterdag of zondag een locatie te prikken om bij elkaar te komen om een glas te heffen op het 10-jarig bestaan van OSM. Tijd om leuke anecdotes op te halen en misschien een blik te

[Talk-br] aplicativo OsMoDroid e plugin no osmand

2014-08-03 Thread Gerald Weber
Oi Turma baixei a versão mais recente do osmand e vi que tem um plugin novo chamado OsMo service. Procurando mais informações cheguei no aplicativo para android chamado OsMoDroid http://osmo.mobi/app/. Achei documentação bem escassa então fiquei curioso para saber se alguém aqui da lista já

Re: [Talk-br] housenumber - numeração de porta

2014-08-03 Thread Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro
Olá, hoje me deparei com o trabalho de numeração que o Paulo Carvalho vem fazendo na Barra e achei estranho. Então, vim à lista ver se isso já havia sido discutido aqui. Achei esquisita essa linha com diversos endereços espalhados por ela (na verdade achei estranho porque nunca vi em nenhum outro

Re: [Talk-br] housenumber - numeração de porta

2014-08-03 Thread Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro
Não estou criticando o trabalho feito, que acho inclusive muito louvável. A única crítica que fiz, foi o fato de achar estranho, em especial visualmente (mas isso é opinião pessoal, não é ciência, nem argumento). Também acho que alguma numeração é melhor que nenhuma. O meu questionamento se deu

Re: [Talk-de] Eigenen kartenausschnitt auf server.

2014-08-03 Thread Michael Weidemann
Hallo zusammen, am einfachsten ist das mit der UMAP zu machen. http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/de/ Gruß Michael Am 02.08.2014 09:49, schrieb Frank J.: Am 01.08.2014 um 23:09 schrieb Michael Rohweder: .. Ich möchte auf basis der aktuellsten OSM karten, die ich auch selber mit aktualisieren

Re: [Talk-es] Décimo Aniversario OpenStreetMap

2014-08-03 Thread Jaime Crespo
Y pronto será el 8º aniversario de la primera reunión de OpenStreetMap España! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Spanish_1st_anniversary_mapping_party_(Zaragoza) Propongo uno (o varios hangouts) para comentar el Estado del mapa en diversas comunidades autónomas y países y preparar mapping

[Talk-es] Manual import of 1,701 Madrid pharmacies

2014-08-03 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: The Madrid city council is releasing some of their data as open data. One of the datasets is a list of 1,807 pharmacies, of which 1,701 are geolocalized. The purpose of this import [1] is to process that data to produce 34 osm files with 50

[Talk-cat] L'ajuntament d'Igualada fa servir OSM

2014-08-03 Thread yo paseopor
Ieps gent, com van les vacances? No sé si ho sabíeu però l'ajuntament d'Igualada fa servir OSM.I com ho he descobert? Perquè estava fent una miqueta de neteja a les notes.A Igualada n'hi ha moltes.Crec que seria important fer una llista en alguna banda de tots els organismes, administracions i

[Talk-cat] N-11 o_O #oletu #etfelicitofill

2014-08-03 Thread yo paseopor
Algú amb un criteri certament curiós ha etiquetat mitja N-II al Maresme com a N-11 / N-12 . Algú sap com revertir una edició tan extensa però concreta? Al·lucinant Salut, mapes i festes majors yopaseopor ___ Talk-cat mailing list

Re: [Talk-cat] L'ajuntament d'Igualada fa servir OSM

2014-08-03 Thread Xavier Barnada
Hola, M'en alegro que un ajuntament estigui fent servir les dades d'OSM, es una senyal de que estem fent una bona feina Crec que pot ser bo fer una neteja de errors en alguna zona,es mes jo hi afegiria els errors del sistema antic d'OpenStreetBugs. Referent a un formulari per entrar

Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer - pLPIS

2014-08-03 Thread Pavel Machek
Ahoj! takže mám skoro dokončenou první verzi. Gratulace :-). Na imports@ mailing listu zadny velky rev nebyl, takze jsem zacal importovat okoli Mukarova abych videl, jak to bude vypadat. Vypada to o dost lip, nez veci co jsem delal rucne... Co to umí: umí získat geometrii a kulturu prvku a

Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer - pLPIS

2014-08-03 Thread Marián Kyral
Dne 3.8.2014 10:11, Pavel Machek napsal(a): Ahoj! takže mám skoro dokončenou první verzi. Gratulace :-). Na imports@ mailing listu zadny velky rev nebyl, takze jsem zacal importovat okoli Mukarova abych videl, jak to bude vypadat. Vypada to o dost lip, nez veci co jsem delal rucne...

Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS import

2014-08-03 Thread Marián Kyral
Dne 3.8.2014 09:52, Pavel Machek napsal(a): Ahoj! dnes mi z MZe odpověděli, že po konzultaci s CPR MZe (to nevím co je :-) ) pole kultura přidali. Takže super, nemusím to hledat někde po všech čertech. V souvislosti s tím - bylo by možné doplnit tu wiki stránku pro import (

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Site basé sur OSM qui dessine routes + ajoute POI + exporte en GPX ou KML?

2014-08-03 Thread Eric
Bonjour, J'ai eu exactement le meme besoin que toi pour planifier mon trip vélo et je n'ai pas trouvé de solution qui permette d’ajouter les POI. Le site le plus cool que j'ai finalement adopté et qui ressemble à ton besoin est OpenRunner (http://www.openrunner.com/). On peut choisir dans

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Site basé sur OSM qui dessine routes + ajoute POI + exporte en GPX ou KML?

2014-08-03 Thread PierreV
en effet open runner permet d'afficher des fond carto OSM... mais pour tracer le trajet le long des routes il utilise la bdd de google... le chemins non présents sur google mais affichés sur OSM doivent etre modifiés sur umap. C'est vrai que umap pourrait être un très bon outil pour préparer des

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Site basé sur OSM qui dessine routes + ajoute POI + exporte en GPX ou KML?

2014-08-03 Thread Yohan Boniface
On 08/03/2014 11:16 AM, PierreV wrote: C'est vrai que umap pourrait être un très bon outil pour préparer des trajets a condition de pouvoir tracer le long des routes et de pouvoir donner la distance des lignes tracées Pour la distance, c'est déjà le cas: dernier bouton dans les boutons Plus.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] effacement volontaire de radar

2014-08-03 Thread didier2020
cela ne correspond pas a un effacement de radar mais je laisse le soin aux spécialistes d'améliorer la description : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1942446524 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Aires de covoiturage

2014-08-03 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin
Le dimanche 20 juillet 2014 01:10:26 GwenB a écrit : bonjour je souhaite indiquer des aires de co-voiturage mais malgré mes recherches sur cette liste et le wiki je ne trouve pas de tag correspondant. parking=carpool a été abandonné [1] et amenity=car_sharing ne correspond pas [2].

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] effacement volontaire de radar

2014-08-03 Thread Éric Gillet
Il est mappé également ici http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3412111, mais il manque le noeud to dans la relation enforcement On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:32 AM, didier2020 didier2...@free.fr wrote: cela ne correspond pas a un effacement de radar mais je laisse le soin aux spécialistes

[OSM-talk-fr] N 906706

2014-08-03 Thread Teuxe
Bonjour, J'avais remarqué il y a quelques temps une référence de route nationale N 906706 qui me semblait étrange : https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.43104/5.14320 Il s'agit en fait d'une voie d'accès reliant la D 200 à la N 67 entre Rupt et Joinville (Champagne-Ardennes), mais elle

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] N 906706

2014-08-03 Thread didier2020
la reférence N 906706 n'est que sur les voies d'acces a la N67 http://cartelie.application.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/cartelie/voir.do?carte=markerpost2012service=CEREMA Le dimanche 03 août 2014 à 14:48 +0200, Teuxe a écrit : Bonjour, J'avais remarqué il y a quelques temps une référence

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] N 906706

2014-08-03 Thread didier2020
le lien complet c'est mieux ... http://cartelie.application.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/cartelie/voir.do?carte=markerpost2012service=CEREMAcontext=rupy8562670052836562314 Le dimanche 03 août 2014 à 15:33 +0200, didier2020 a écrit : la reférence N 906706 n'est que sur les voies d'acces a la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] N 906706

2014-08-03 Thread Teuxe
Merci Didier, Mais où trouves-tu la référence N 906706 ? Je n'arrive pas à utiliser cet outil web :-\ Teuxe Le 03/08/2014 15:36, didier2020 a écrit : le lien complet c'est mieux ...

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] N 906706

2014-08-03 Thread Teuxe
*CARTELIE est une application développée par le ministère de l'écologie, du développement et de l'aménagement durables (MEDAD) pour faciliter la publication de cartes sur internet* à partir d'informations géographiques locales et de référentiels nationaux (principalement données IGN dont le

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] N 906706

2014-08-03 Thread didier2020
pas de recopiage rien, c'est juste pour vérifier une information : N906706 n'existe pas. c'est une gestion du reférenciel de la N67 : section courante vs echangeur/accès. le lien originel étant http://adelie.application.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/syntheseFiche.do?id=FR-120066022-MDLOT-284340

[OSM-ja] OSC京都でのOSM認知率

2014-08-03 Thread Toshihisa Tanaka
としです. 昨日8月2日のOSC京都はお疲れ様でした. OSC京都での OSM 展示では,どれくらい OSM の認知が進んでいるか気になった ので,簡単にですがアンケートを取りました. (いいださん,田口さん,アンケート協力ありがとうございました m(_ _)m) ●OpenStreetMap 認知率 知っている人:26人 知らなかった人:9人 認知率:26/(26+9)=74.28% ●OpenStreetMap アカウント取得率 アカウントを持っている人:12人 アカウントを持っていない人:21人 アカウント取得率:12/(12+21)=36.36%

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-08-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Just to remind folk, the West Mids volunteered as a pilot area for the original NapTAN import. We asked that the nodes were NOT tagged as highway=bus-stop as we wanted to survey them before they got rendered. We still haven't got round them all! And given the accuracy we're glad we asked for the

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Colin Smale
As this discussion is about UK specifics, I thought it would be a good plan to reach out to the talk-GB list. --colin On 2014-08-03 16:44, Colin Smale wrote: On 2014-08-03 16:24, Craig Wallace wrote: On 2014-08-03 11:00, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Residential roads in the UK often seem

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/08/14 15:49, Colin Smale wrote: As this discussion is about UK specifics, I thought it would be a good plan to reach out to the talk-GB list. The only things I would say you can commonly assume from such signs are that the road is unadopted, and that the residents/owners would like you

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-08-03 Thread Ed Loach
I downloaded latest naptan data the other day and used qgis to filter stops.csv to just those in Tendring, or on roads that run along the border, to give me something more manageable to look at. 995 stops before any other filtering. I've not finished verifying imported stops after an initial burst

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/08/14 17:02, Tom Hughes wrote: See, for example: http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/atoz/a_to_z/service.asp?u_id=1065tab=3siteid=5409pageid=29027e=e http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn00402.pdf is also informative. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread David Woolley
On 03/08/14 17:02, Tom Hughes wrote: In reality such roads may, even though they are not adopted and are hence not maintained at public expense, be highways with an associated right of way for the public. That's more likely for long established, and probably rural roads. For recently

Re: [Talk-GB] Post NaPTAN edits (Cambridge area)

2014-08-03 Thread John Aldridge
Thanks for your help, Richard Brian. -- Cheers, John ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb