Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maps.me made an announcement in the last update that they are using Booking.com data to show hotels and allow reserving hotel rooms from within the app. I doubt Booking.com released their data with a permissive license. Janko Mihelić pet, 8. srp 2016. u 14:54 Andrew Harvey <andrew.h

Re: [OSM-talk] 3D somehow not compatible with our map and editing concepts / capabilities?

2016-06-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
I'm glad this topic is being discussed. Firstly, we have two incompatible tagging schemes: 3D buildings and indoor tagging. Try to imagine a building having these two sets of shapes and tags. It can't be done without entirely new tools. Those tools would have nothing to do with maps. I think the

[Talk-hr] Registar geografskih imena

2016-05-24 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ljudi, kako to da još nisam čuo za ovo? Smijemo li ovo koristiti? Pa ovdje imamo imena svega što postoji u Hrvatskoj. https://data.gov.hr/dataset/registar-geografskih-imena/resource/768199ba-b361-4e6f-85f6-9b18dcdbe044 Janko ___ Talk-hr mailing list

Re: [Talk-hr] Nove US Topo karte

2016-05-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
Evo i linka gdje se mogu skinuti karte: https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/ sub, 14. svi 2016. u 13:23 Janko Mihelić <jan...@gmail.com> napisao je: > Pozdrav kartografi! > > Malo sam se sjetio ovih karata, i odlučio pogledati je li se skeniralo što > od

[Talk-hr] Nove US Topo karte

2016-05-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
Pozdrav kartografi! Malo sam se sjetio ovih karata, i odlučio pogledati je li se skeniralo što od njih sa Hrvatskog područja. I zaista jest. Nije sve, ali poprilična količina. Evo karte pokrivenosti: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/former_yugoslavia/index_map.jpg A evo i karte naše trenutne

Re: [Talk-hr] Grad na dlanu u 3D formatu

2016-03-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
Bome impresivno. Krovovi su modelirani do detalja, sve ima. Imam osjećaj da to nisu radili ljudi nego je dobiveno nekakvim slikanjem iz aviona. Kao što Google maps ima 3D u Zagrebu, to su možda isti podaci. Makar vidim da na ovom modelu nema drveća. Možda su izrezali 3D po zgradama. Jel zna netko

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

2016-03-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
+1 for counting all lanes, for whatever type of traffic. It's valuable information for cars that bikes are driving alongside. If a router has to choose a route for a car, a road without bikes is probably better. If a driver has to turn left over a bike lane, router should show a danger sign, watch

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Piers vs Docks

2016-03-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
Does iD have an American english translation? Maybe it should. sri, 9. ožu 2016. u 23:08 Clifford Snow napisao je: > Yesterday at our International Women's Day Mapathon in Bellingham, WA, one > of the participants wanted to add a pier on Bellingham's waterfront. >

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

2016-03-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think existing mappers are not the biggest problem. If mapping starts being paid, there may be an influx of new mappers who do it only for the money. They will, of course, map a lot because that's how you get more money. They will introduce skewed mapping practices at best, and outright wrong

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

2016-03-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
Paying mappers should have a very intricate web of defined jobs and reviewers. Ideally, OSM Tasking Manager should be used. "Map all forests and roads in this square, I review, and you get 0.1 bitcoins". Anything less strict is prone to misuse. Janko pet, 4. ožu 2016. u 10:36 Lester Caine

Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

2016-03-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
pet, 4. ožu 2016. u 02:48 Hans De Kryger napisao je: > > ​My guess is yes, i just checked it and the website is using data from at > least 2013 or newer so i'm assuming they'd have to accept osm's license > since that's years after the change. Hopefully that's what you

Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

2016-03-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
All the new data on there should be ODbL too, am I right? It uses old OSM data so we should be able to use the new data. uto, 1. ožu 2016. 02:54 Hans De Kryger je napisao: > Got a reply from the website saying it's been fixed. You can see it for > yourself at the site

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2016-01-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
It would be great if you guys added brand:wikidata=Q37158 to all of them, that way you can search for all Starbucks with one easy query. sri, 20. sij 2016. u 00:46 Alejandro S. napisao je: > Just removed last wrong point in Spain. > Only 11 point to go. > > Atentamente,

Re: [Talk-hr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Humanitarian Maps for Refugee Crisis EU

2015-11-10 Thread Janko Mihelić
Vidio sam da je Valent ucrtao ogradu oko postojećeg tranzitnog centra u Slavonskom Brodu, pa sam još dodao tagove amenity=social_facility + social_facility=refugee_camp: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/376088910 pon, 9. stu 2015. u 22:18 hbogner napisao je: > Kakvo je

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
you that. I see no reason to group objects in stop_area_groups, unless maybe if there is a name or ref that only makes sense to give to a collection of stops, and they all have different names. But if you are talking about a station, we have the tag public_transport=station. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
though. But do we agree a stop_area relation is needed for each side of a street? and a stop_area_group to show that they belong together? Jo 2015-07-02 0:31 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: To me it's logical to put all those ref, network and operator tags in the stop_area relation

Re: [Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-07-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
To me it's logical to put all those ref, network and operator tags in the stop_area relation, not on the nodes or ways. The relation is the only element that describes the bus stop completely. If you only put the ref and operator on the platform, the stop position is missing. But if mappers in a

[Talk-hr] Upit o podacima zdravstvenih ustanova

2015-06-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Commons, pa mi se čini da ne bi trebalo biti problema, ali za svaki slučaj vam se javljam kako bih dobio dopuštenje. Hvala, Janko Mihelić ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

Re: [Talk-hr] data.gov.hr podatci o medicinskim objektima

2015-06-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Sjajno! Ja se malo bavim sa svojim OSM Gardenima, trenutno pokušavam namjestiti da se automatski pokreće osvježenje, da ne trebaš kliknuti. Kad to dovršim, mogu ubaciti zdravstvene ustanove u jedan. ned, 21. lip 2015. u 19:11 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com napisao je: Stjepanov odgovor je završio

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing Applications

2015-06-17 Thread Janko Mihelić
If you ask me, they are all in their infancy. Non of these routing services even route right. In a turn restriction the via role can be a way. Neither OSRM, ORS or GraphHopper knows how to restrict that, and that's IMHO one of the crucial parts of a routing engine. When one of them starts routing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
I like the idea. Editors show the message prominently the first time you touch the object. It doesn't have to be imagery, it can be various messages to subsequent mappers. pet, 12. lip 2015. 00:20 David dban...@internode.on.net je napisao: Formalising readme is a good and have editing tools

Re: [Talk-hr] Sedmi HR-OSGeo Meetup - 18. 06. 2015.

2015-06-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
Mogao bih se pojaviti. Čak me zanima ovo D3.js predavanje. uto, 9. lip 2015. 21:51 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao: U četvrtak, 18. 06. 2015. održat će se sedmi HR-OSGeo Meetup. Pripremljena su dva predavanja: Tomislav Muic – Hello 3D world i Tomislav Bacinger - How can D3.js fulfill all

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
I don't get the problem with k=v instead of just v. There is a function called concatenate which solves that. We should move away from mapping directly with tags, and to a system like iDs, with descriptions that hide tags. For a database it's irrelevant if it's oneway=yes or 4658. All this talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Attributing others' errors to OSM data and what to do about it. Was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
OSM should act as a consultant to data consumers. Whenever a mistake like this is spotted, we should try to contact the data consumer and help repair the misinterpretation. I think nothing more is needed. We should also make it easier for data consumers to interpret data correctly. I think we

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
pet, 29. svi 2015. 18:45 Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.edu je napisao: On 05/27/2015 05:13 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: We are a database of geodata [...] Would it not be better to record the wikidata link for London, and then (perhaps in co-operation with people at Wikidata) provide means

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
čet, 28. svi 2015. 00:11 David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com je napisao: It would be great to have a dedicated wikibase install just for geographic names, like GeoNames but part of openstreetmap. Such database can be linked to Wikidata and then you can also have items for every geographic

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting routing problems

2015-05-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
I'd like the following procedure: 1. user makes a route and finds an error 2. There is a button Found an error in your route? 3. You click the button, and it behaves the same as the existing note button. You drag the pointer to the problematic part of your route and write you can't turn left

Re: [Talk-hr] Označavanje stajališta na pločnicima

2015-05-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
: On 28.5.2015. 7:36, Janko Mihelić wrote: highway=platform je po definiciji više stajalište za vlak. Problem kod taga public_transport=platfom je taj da se ne renderira, ali to nije baš valjan razlog jer ne bi trebali tagirati za renderer. Transport layer ga renderira, ali samo ako nije postavljen i

[Talk-hr] Opet o biciklističkim stazama

2015-05-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Pozdrav, evo mene opet o biciklističkim stazama, i imam novi prijedlog. Jel bi bilo bolje da sve biciklističke staze tagiramo sa highway=cycleway? Nedavno dam naletio na ovaj tekst: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Duck_tagging U njemu na široko piše o ideji tagiranja, ali na

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapillary plugin for JOSM

2015-05-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
This brings us exciting possibilities. Someone could make a layer that detects inconsistencies between mapillary sign data and osm data. For example: -there should be a oneway street near a oneway sign -there should be a turn restriction or a oneway street junction near a sign with a turn

Re: [Talk-hr] Rijeka ortofoto - dozvola

2015-05-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
Svaka čast, jako uzbudljive vijesti! Ipak, prvo bih provjerio jesu li to zaista njihove ortofoto karte ili ih oni samo koriste. Ponekad ljudi zaborave da nešto samo iznajmljuju. U karti sa podacima možda ima nekih granica koje je Rijeka kupila od DGUa ili nekog drugog. Ako je to stvarno sve

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
If we want to unify a kind of chain store, I think we should leave the name tag, and focus on other tags. Some examples are ref:vatin=* for the vat id of the store, brand:wikidata=* for the wikidata id of the brand owner, website=* for the central website, or we can find a new better tag that

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalks

2015-04-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
I agree with suggesting adding names to sidewalks. I'm not sure about only mapping sidewalks that are separated from the road. I agree it has some logic to it, but what about mapping sidewalk width, surface, markings on the ground for the blind, and all those attributes a sidewalk can have?

Re: [OSM-talk] Right Way to Map Bridge over Waterways

2015-04-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
I suggest help.osm.org for questions like this. And the answer is, add bridge=yes on the bridge if you haven't, and layer=1. Janko sub, 18. tra 2015. 13:31 Enock Seth Nyamador kwadzo...@gmail.com je napisao: Hi, Can someone please help me with the right way to map bridges over waterways.

Re: [Talk-hr] Possible improper way 241938080?

2015-04-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
Probably created for the purpose of rendering the local village Marušići. I can contact the creator just to see if he/she is aware that's not how you map things. Janko uto, 14. tra 2015. 11:06 Bernhard R. Fischer b...@abenteuerland.at je napisao: Hi! I found the following way which should

Re: [OSM-talk] video mapping

2015-04-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
Mapillary announced they support video now: http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/03/31/video-upload.html sub, 11. tra 2015. 18:00 Peter Gervai grinapo+osmt...@gmail.com je napisao: Hello, For quite a while I was hoping that it's just me; I thought maybe everyone else is able to use some

[Talk-hr] Biciklističke staze i rutanje na glavnoj stranici

2015-03-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
Pozdrav, imamo problem sa rutanjem na glavnoj stranici, a to je da oba biciklistička rutera (GraphHopper i MapQuest) izbjegavaju staze koje su tagane sa highway=footway. Već smo raspravljali o tome treba li koristiti highway=path ili highway=footway za biciklističke staze koje su nacrtane na

Re: [Talk-hr] Biciklističke staze i rutanje na glavnoj stranici

2015-03-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
pet, 27. ožu 2015. u 14:39 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com napisao je: Protiv. Ovo bi bilo crtanje za renderer/routing. Složio bih se kad bi jedno od ta dva bilo krivo tagiranje, ali ako su oba točna, a jedan nam omogućuje da rutamo i vidimo greške.. A što sa bicycle=no na kolnicima?

Re: [Talk-hr] Biciklističke staze i rutanje na glavnoj stranici

2015-03-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
, morat ćemo sami pisati svoje renderere i rutere. Janko pet, 27. ožu 2015. 23:05 Ivan Delac ivan.ne...@gmail.com je napisao: Janko Mihelić napisa: Hoćemo se prebaciti na highway=path? Mislim da rutanje na glavnoj stranici pomaže u traženju grešaka kod rutanja. Ne sviđa mi se prijedlog. Zašto

Re: [Talk-hr] Biciklističke staze i rutanje na glavnoj stranici

2015-03-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
, 27. ožu 2015. u 23:47 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com napisao je: Malo sam gledao taginfo, i situacija u svijetu je slijedeća: highway=path + bicycle=designated -- 220 000 highway=footway + bicycle=designated -- 17 000 highway=path + bicycle=yes -- 213 000 highway=footway + bicycle=yes -- 327

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

2015-03-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
2015-03-18 11:25 GMT+01:00 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: Are there routers that do shortest-path routing across areas? I do not have an example of an area without additional roads ready. I'm not aware of any routers that routes across areas. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

2015-03-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
2015-03-10 17:56 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: To solve this, one needs possibly a new (?) tag for parks like stay_on_path=yes|no Maybe we need a general tag that says if an area can be traversed by foot in any direction. Would foot=yes be enough?

Re: [Talk-hr] Bing linije - trebaju li nam?

2015-03-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ja ih brišem kako koju vidim. Obrisao sam ih dvije-tri do sada. Dana 8. ožujka 2015. u 13:11 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Svi koji su se javili na ovu temu se slažu za brisanje. Tko preuizama brisanje na sebe? On 01/21/2015 11:03 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: Pozdrav, slažemo li

Re: [Talk-hr] Imamo prvog humanitarca!

2015-02-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
Čestitke humanitarcu! Mi smo njegova vojska, mapiramo po kiši i snijegu. Dana 25. veljače 2015. u 09:14 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Čestitke Draženu što je postao član Humanitarian OpenStreetMap-a!

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
2015-02-16 21:19 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: My first quick test in Kent yielded a route (about 6 miles) which while perfectly viable, no-one in their right mind would take. But that is probably more of a quirk of OSRM than anything else. That's the beauty, you can try out

[Talk-hr] Površina županijskih cesta

2015-02-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ako imate vremena, pokrenite ovu skriptu oko mjesta gdje živite ili gdje ste se kretali, i izmapirajte površinu cesta. Asphalt ili compacted (makadam) ili jednostavno unpaved? http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/7sz Skripta traži županijske ceste koje nemaju surface tag. Državne i autoceste bi trebale

Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom

2015-02-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 2. veljače 2015. u 12:04 Darko Boto darko.b...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Vidm i ti bi službene i u metar :) Bilo je poslije dorađenih verzija što sam sam fixao a i drugi su sređivali te podatke ali ne mogu naći. Ne treba na metar, ali Sklonište Martinove Košare su bile nekih 20

Re: [Talk-hr] Sluzbena imena ulica u ZG

2015-02-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 2. veljače 2015. u 10:39 Filip tfi...@outlook.com je napisao/la: Primjer 2. name: Puni naziv na hrvatskom (npr. Trg žrtava fašizma) alt_name: Naziv koji se jako razlikuje od punog naziva, a odnosi se na istu lokaciju (npr. Džamija) Ja bih ovakve neslužbene nazive stavio u loc_name

Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom

2015-02-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 1. veljače 2015. u 22:39 Darko Boto darko.b...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Ljudi, u datoteci koju sam poslao sigurno je preko 90% planinarskih domova i skloništa u RH. Zašto ih tražiti od HPS-a? Siguran sam da su i oni preuzeli dio ovih podataka jer znam da su te koordinate kružile među

Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom

2015-02-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
. Više o licenci ovdje: http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Nadamo se da ćete pomoći u stvaranju najveće slobodne karte svijeta. Unaprijed hvala na odgovoru, Janko Mihelić ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-hr] Sluzbena imena ulica u ZG

2015-01-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ako se mene pita, mislim da se ne bi trebali previše obazirati na table jer su totalno zbrčkane. Na jednom kraju ulice imaš puno ime, na drugoj skraćeno. Općenita politika OSM-a je da se imena ne skraćuju. Sve kratice se pišu punim nazivom. Recimo u SAD-u na tablama obično piše nešto tipa S

Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom

2015-01-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 28. 1. 2015. 13:29 osoba Weigand Petar weigand.pe...@gmail.com napisala je: Janko, hvala na infu. Sjetio sam se da tu ima još i speleoloških objekata, a za njih mogu pitati i speleologe kakva su njihova iskustva s OSMom. www.speleolog.hr je sekcija HPD Željezničara pa neće bit neki problem

Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom

2015-01-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
Evo još nekoliko relevantnih wiki stranica: Za staze se upisuje sac_scale, da se vidi koliko je težak put: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale Ako ima alpinističkih pomagala tipa kabeli ili ljestve onda imaš: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails

Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom

2015-01-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
planinarskog društva. Treba nam njihov službeni mail da nam dopuštaju da koristimo njihove podatke u OpenStreetMapu. Što se tiče edukacije, bilo bi dobro prevesti par wiki članaka koji govore o planinarskoj temi, i da se dogovorimo oko tagova koje ćemo koristiti. Janko Mihelić, Janjko u OSM-u Dana 27. 1

Re: [Talk-hr] Oznake name, brand, operator

2015-01-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
Primjer za McDonald's u Hrvatskoj: amenity=fastfood brand=McDonald's name=McDonald's operator=Globalna hrana d.o.o. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

[Talk-hr] Bing linije - trebaju li nam?

2015-01-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Pozdrav, slažemo li se da obrišemo ove linije? Kad se zbroje Bing i Mapbox, bilo bi lakše ucrtati gdje nema pozadine. Ove više nitko ne održava, samo bezveze stoje i ne daju nikakvu informaciju. Janko Mihelić ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr

Re: [Talk-hr] Notes statistike

2015-01-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 14. siječnja 2015. u 13:13 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Predlažem da sve te stare koje su bez dovoljnog značenja, a netko je ostavio upit za pojašnjenje, nakon nekog vremena ozačimo kao riješene uz napomenu da se označava riješenim zbog toga. Slažem se, ako je prošlo tjedan

Re: [Talk-hr] Okupljanje u ZG oko nove godine?

2015-01-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 8. siječnja 2015. u 17:00 Fiki fik...@hotmail.com je napisao/la: Ovo s vrtovima sam proučavao, al nisam skužio o čemu se zapravo radi. Mogao bih napraviti mali tutorial kako pokrenuti vlastiti vrt. Još je to u beta fazi ali je definitivno iskoristivo. Prije nekog vremena sam krenuo

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 7. 1. 2015. 03:53 osoba Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com napisala je: While we're at it, it would be nice to have a database that allows going from the tagged item (e.g., fitness centre) to recommended tag. The iD editor has a nice internal feature called aliases, so a person looking

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
I like how churches have a darker colour. I'd like for schools, hospitals and other more important buildings to also have the darker colour. 2015-01-04 18:34 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk: On 04/01/2015 13:01, Lester Caine wrote: Perhaps now is the time to be looking again at

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-12-31 0:26 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: the combination of amenity=restaurant and cuisine=fastfood seems pointless to me, fastfood is not a reasonable cuisine type when you look how cuisine is used in osm (and fwiw, there are only 12 occurences of cuisine=fastfood

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
. So, there are a lot. If you don't find a way to use multiple tags, I think this will not be a serious project. Maybe there's a way to delimit strings and use a format that can use n strings? Janko Mihelić ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ok, you found a way to go around power=generator, but that's just a loophole. How would you go around highway=path+bicycle=designated+foot=designated+segregated=yes? If you leave out just one of those tags, it changes the resulting meaning. What's your solution? Just leave out Q221722 altogether?

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
Very interesting project! Keep it up, I might come and help you. What if you add more tags in Wikidata? Does that mean that an object in OSM needs to have all those tags, or just one of them? Is it an AND or an OR? For example, in Wikidata you have an element Fastfood restaurants (Q1751429). How

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-12-29 12:26 GMT+01:00 Kolossos t...@alder-digital.de: It's possible to build 1:n and n:1 relations. That means amenity=marketplace links to 2 Wikidata entries Q330284 (marketplace) and Q132510 (streetmarket). In the other direction power=minor_line and power=line are linking both to

Re: [Talk-hr] OSM povezane lokalizacije

2014-12-19 Thread Janko Mihelić
Vespucci editor: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/vespucci/ Level0 editor: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/level0/ Dana 19. 12. 2014. 01:00 osoba hbogner hbog...@gmail.com napisala je: Gdje se sve nalaze lokalizacije povazane uz OSM? Trebali bi napraviti popis svega što smo

[Talk-hr] Velika i mala slova

2014-12-19 Thread Janko Mihelić
Nikad nisam znao kako se pišu imena crkvi, sa svim onim sveta, bezgrešna, obitelj. Napokon sam se potrudio pronaći kako i zašto se pišu pa da podijelim. Dakle suprotno intuiciji, nazivi crkvi se pišu malim početnim slovom ako je prva riječ crkva, katedrala, kapelica itd. Razlog je taj da crkve

Re: [Talk-hr] Nazivi osm-hr servera

2014-12-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
Vlejd, hvala na toj priči! Stari Hrvati (Slaveni?) su imali stvarno sjajne legende, trebale bi se pretvoriti u nekakav crtić kako bi nam ušli u kolektivnu svijest. Morat ću malo prošvrljati po toj strani Wikipedije. Jel taj put po Učkoj mapiran? Moščenička Draga i Perun su tu, ali ne vidim jel

Re: [Talk-hr] Nazivi osm-hr servera

2014-12-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 3. prosinca 2014. u 09:00 Dražen Odobašić dodoba...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Predlažem brendove našeg djetinjstva: * pipi * čarli * kraš ekpres * cockta * smoki * 505 sa crtom * bronhi * ... Sviđa mi se. * eurokrem * mikado * čokolino * radenska * borosana A mogli bi i strip

[Talk-hr] Fwd: Re: Nazivi osm-hr servera

2014-12-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
vremena. Janko -- Proslijeđena poruka -- Šalje: Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Datum: 2. 12. 2014. 14:30 Predmet: Re: [Talk-hr] Nazivi osm-hr servera Prima: SilverSpace mirozag...@ubuntu-hr.org Kopija: Našao sam dosta o zmajevima ovdje: http://www.seljacionline-forum.com

Re: [Talk-hr] Okrugli stol - Informacije javnog sektora: Izazovi i mogućnosti ponovne uporabe informacija u RH

2014-11-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 27. studenoga 2014. u 01:30 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao/la: To im je bitno da znaju na koje se setove podataka opredjeliti, moraju odrediti prioritete, jer ako potroše mjesece na set podataka koji će skinuti jedna osoba godišnje onda je to potrošeno vrijeme. Te podatke ćemo

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
I like the fact that churches have a darker colour. I'd like to see hospitals, schools, museums and other more important buildings with a darker colour too. Nice to see the main layer get some makeup. Janko 2014-11-27 10:16 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: On 27/11/14 01:16,

Re: [Talk-hr] Okrugli stol - Informacije javnog sektora: Izazovi i mogućnosti ponovne uporabe informacija u RH

2014-11-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
Moram priznati da mi je drago da se o tome uopće priča. Hvala na izvještaju! Imam osjećaj da će DGU biti tvrd orah, ali valjda ćemo uspjeti izvući barem ove granice koje je nemoguće dobiti sa satelitskih snimaka ili sa terena. Možemo periodički pisati po LinkedIn grupi i stvarati pritisak kako se

Re: [Talk-hr] Nadogradnja osm-hr serverske infrastruktura

2014-11-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
zavrsim putovanje okolo. Hrvoje On 11/21/2014 04:38 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: Sjajno! Što sve jedan CDN drži? Samo tileove ili još neke funkcije? Za četvrti server znači ništa još nije zamišljeno. Što ćemo tamo? Hoćemo našu kartu sa gomilom tematskih layera? Janko

[Talk-hr] Zaštićena područja u Hrvatskoj

2014-11-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
tagovi se ne renderiraju na glavnom OSM layeru. Gledao sam kako to rade oko nas, i Talijani dodaju tag leisure=nature_reserve kako bi se to renderiralo. Tag mi baš nema nekog smisla, ali ako je nekom važno da se renderira na glavnom layeru, ovo je vjerojatno najmanje loše rješenje. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Talk-hr] Naselja u OSM-u

2014-11-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
Evo, Overpass se sredio pa sam osvježio naselja. Sada skokovi rade. Dana 3. studenoga 2014. u 15:20 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Dana 3. studenoga 2014. u 02:30 Matija Nalis mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr je napisao/la: Cool! A kada je crven population na prvom sheetu

Re: [Talk-hr] Naselja u OSM-u

2014-10-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 16. listopada 2014. u 00:14 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Pozdrav, potaknut nestankom Zaprešića kojeg nismo primjetili nekih pola godine, zapeo sam i opet napravio popis naselja koje imamo i nemamo u OSM-u, ovaj puta u Google docs okruženju: https://docs.google.com

[Talk-hr] Naselja u OSM-u

2014-10-15 Thread Janko Mihelić
županije upisane kao Q, ali koristio sam njihov wikidata tag kako bi ih jednoznačno linkao. Janko Mihelić ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

2014-10-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-10-13 14:06 GMT+02:00 Mike N nice...@att.net: This could be a valid use of noexit=yes so that it won't be back on the QA tool? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-April/017367.html I agree, noexit=yes is the best solution, but you could also draw a little

Re: [OSM-talk] How best to view geometry history for a way?

2014-09-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
I was under the impression that this tool: http://overpass-api.de/achavi/ was able to show historical geometry, but whenever I try to use it I fail. Either it's not working properly yet, or I don't know how to use it. Janko 2014-09-25 15:32 GMT+02:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Visually detect missing roads

2014-09-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
Great tool! Found one canal that needed mapping in my area. I'm guessing this will be great for countries that are badly mapped, and you need to find quickly what areas need your attention. Janko 2014-09-18 18:48 GMT+02:00 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: On 18/09/2014 17:07, Stephan Knauss

Re: [OSM-talk] Wood Park mapnik carto anomaly?

2014-09-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
This is the place for Standard layer issues: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues I searched a bit and I didn't find the issue with parks. Try searching yourself, maybe I just didn't find it. Janko 2014-09-16 12:25 GMT+02:00 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Hi I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Wood Park mapnik carto anomaly?

2014-09-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ideally we could render little trees on top of the park. Janko 2014-09-16 14:41 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: On 16 September 2014 11:25, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: I've mapped an area where a woodland overlaps with a park:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdata: a Wikidata-like editor for OpenStreetMap

2014-09-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
the whole database to OSMdata is interesting. I think a dynamic link could also be possible. OSMdata could just query the main database when you ask it for N40983. It doesn't have to have a copy of the whole database. Janko Mihelić 2014-09-12 11:41 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdata: a Wikidata-like editor for OpenStreetMap

2014-09-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-09-12 14:12 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: If you want to set up a DB about restaurant reviews, please do this without the need to link from osm, e.g. with name comparison and spatial proximity, by looking at the operator, etc. You're right, Overpass Permanent

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdata: a Wikidata-like editor for OpenStreetMap

2014-09-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe OSMdata could be used to make auto-generated nice pages for businesses and other POIs. A little map, telephone number, opening hours, webpage link, a picture if it's connected to wikipedia, or if it has an image=* tag, and so on. Then when search engines indexes it, people will get that as a

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
, which is better then the rest because it is crowdsourced, it has an open license for it's data, and it has opensource software for it's database and user interface. So if I'm not mistaken, we could fork their project if that was needed. But if I could choose, we would have our own. Janko Mihelić 2014

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
There's one fundamental question about wikidata tags; how do you tag multiple objects that have the same wikidata tag? For example, a wikidata entry about a church and a connected monastery. When I was writing the Wikidata proposal on our wiki, I've put a rule that only one object in OSM can have

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-08-28 14:41 GMT+02:00 Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com: For now I've side stepped this problem. If you look at an institution like a hospital, university or school you'll often find multiple buildings, some might include a name and be tagged amenity=hospital/university/school. If my

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
/Tag:man_made%3Dbridge 2014-08-28 19:42 GMT+02:00 Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com: Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Bridges are bit of a grey area, is a highway with bridge=yes really a bridge, or is it a highway which has a property of being on a bridge? I think we should map these notable

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
Here's another example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34012792 This railroad track will get the wikidata tag, the other track and footway won't. And even the track that gets the tag, isn't the whole length of the bridge. And I didn't even look that hard. I found problems on 2 out of 6 bridges

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-08-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: Excepted perhaps for ways with multiple refs, these relations are just used as categories : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories We do not, however, create relations that simply collect a loose group

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-08-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: And if you ask me, I would say the opposite. *Excepted perhaps for ways with multiple refs*, these relations are just used as categories : What did you mean with this? Do you suggest we use relations when there are multiple refs, and

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
I agree it's double information. But if you ask me, the ref tags on ways should be deleted, and route relations can be used as information for highway refs. This makes sense because you can have more than one route on one way. P.S. I think this is for the tagging mailing list. Janko

Re: [Talk-hr] Po?tanski brojevi

2014-08-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ja sam imao ideju za takav sustav koji bi se vrtio na Google docs spreadsheetu. Podaci se stave u spreadsheet, i onda javascript dohvati relevantne podatke iz overpass-turbo-a, usporedi sa tablicom i pocrveni nedostajuće, pozeleni one koji postoje, poplavi one koji postoje ali imaju krive podatke

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2014-08-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
It only takes one great public transport map with routing, and the new scheme will come to life. Who cares about Openstreetmap default map. Who cares about the public transport layer on Openstreetmap which doesn't even have tram lines rendered. We need outside help with this :) Janko 2014-08-12

Re: [Talk-hr] Nestao Zaprešić

2014-08-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
Inače sad sam našao još bolji alat za traženje povijesti: http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/ Možeš odabrati datum od kad do kad tražiš promjene. Koristi novi Overpass-ov Attic api. Sjajna stvarčica. Dana 31. srpnja 2014. u 00:33 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Dana 30. srpnja

Re: [Talk-hr] Nestao Zaprešić

2014-07-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana 30. srpnja 2014. u 18:17 Vlejd wlade...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Možda je ovo? http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1605177300/history Sjajan pronalazak. Zaprešić nam se vratio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1605177300/history Izgleda mi kao slučajna greška jer korisnik aklaric inače

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-07-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-07-29 13:39 GMT+02:00 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Hi Shaun, if I understand these maps correctly, they show streets without a maxspeed tag, but not msising maxspeed restrictions under the assumption of a national default or something like that (although it seems not so

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
It's great to see the default map layer finally moving forward! Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

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