more difficult to see and manage? It is about
time we started to look at combining ways in the same way we currently do with
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do accept it is vandalism?
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blocks.
'former endonyms' are simply a facet of history which OSM processes simply
deletes. Only where those endonyms have an actual relevance today do they fit in
some peoples guide lines for current OSM data? That they need to be mapped is a
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NGEO
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of the planet file,
but the last one in the archive is 14-Sep-2012 and then they are weekly
from then. Extracting your arget area and then rendering a map from it
just follows the same process as working with the current data.
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The endless rain of 2014 might though ;-)
:-)
Hit refresh, it seems to be fixed now.
Nope. Still raining outside.
Dry inside and out here ... all looking fine.
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On 19/08/14 17:47, OSMR wrote:
Thank you in advance for your potential participation and apologies for
the lengthy message in case you are not interested.
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because it does not follow the
programmers arbitrarily defined rules. This is DEFINITELY not something
that should be rolled out blindly across all countries as certainly ome
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maproulette applied to the UK and I'm sure other European countries
would feel the same? We have some very fine detail now being mapped and
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On 23/08/14 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
I object to someone telling me that a road needs 'smoothing' ... it may
well have very well mapped source data, and someone who does not know
that will be stripping data simply because it does
On 23/08/14 16:29, Clifford Snow wrote:
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http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bingmap=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657
is the one I'm currently on and leaving as it's impossible
inappropriate for other, so 'challenges' should be
restricted to the areas where those rules are known to work well, rather
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On 8/24/2014 2:48 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
It's not the 'brightness - it's the compressed contrast which is has
always been the problem with iD. maproulette does not link to potlatch2
which I'd normally use when not on a system with JOSM running ...
iD
downloading yet another layer of data into the core database.
That OSM does not have a reliable id for POI's may be the problem here,
but adding tags for every other database in OSM is not the solution to
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obtain timezone data for OSM.
If wikidata is so open, then every tag added here should have the
reciprocal tag added there, then I'll believe it's worth using :)
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initiate.
I would probably go on to propose that grouping a large number of
similar but data wise unrelated changes be flagged as bad practice so
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be hammered out then committed once agreed ... rather than pulling
it apart in later discussions on that changeset?
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established that a zoom
level should use the icon OMLY when the name is not displayed, and if
there is no icon don't just display a dot :(
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On 27/11/14 09:42, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 27 Nov 2014 09:18, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
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Not sure your demo is proving anything. Zooming in on the area covered
by the demo on the live map I'm not seeing very much of the corruptions
Have their been
to get to the right road.
Not sure there is an easy way to enhance the display to show the 'angle'
of the road but had a good time helped by well detailed mapping data.
Thanks to those who contributed it.
( Am looking to OSMAND as a means of creating other map displays )
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contrast - only the new one is causing difficulty -
and comments from others!
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the 'subscribed' list of accepted entries, and perhaps
indicate where an update to one tag also needs secondary tags.
One subscribes to a tag metadata mechanism which provides updates at one
of two levels ... the metadata for the tag has changed, or data related
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the adjacent buildings are
another areas that needs properly fixing! What works well for one
country and style of mapping simply fails in many others.
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rendering ...
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perhaps the fact that this is missing is good enough reason not to allow
the import. Particularly if the buildings removed did have addresses?
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we see the buildings, footpaths
and grass areas ...
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becomes an
Ixxx.yyy and all of the generic tagging can be accessed via that. We can
then more easily see what is 'managed import' over manual data. In the
case of the LINZ data for instance adding address information could be
directed to the relevant support list?
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I think one simply lives with the 'strange' messages. I don't
think that things like trying to create a relation are productive.
Although in the UK if the street gazetteer data becomes freely usable
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to be a short distance down
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/285608726 and the routing software
needs to understand the whole area of the junction rather than just the
the common node.
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are difficult even to decide when there is ALSO a road going across at
90degs :) 6 roads meet offset over two or three mini-roundabouts.
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. In this case
the road id provides the through_route information ... one remains on
the same road ... and the straight on road has a different one which may
just be 'minor road'.
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On 27/04/15 16:49, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 27 April 2015 at 13:52, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
On 27/04/15 13:17, pmailkeey . wrote:
Is the 'through route' and 'the same road' the same thing ? and does it
mean that the road number
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that allow all routers to be able
to rely on the one set of rules?
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manage any of that secondary data. Once one has 'website=domain' even
'phone=xxx' becomes redundant ... as does addr: ... but that is probably
going a little too far since the addr: details are needed for routing to
a POI.
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on what IS a social platform. There are
places where hiding ones identity is necessary, but here is not one?
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showing the 'safe' driving direction. Would you drive up the right hand
branch? That is ignoring the case of trying to escape from the police ;)
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On 11/05/15 09:39, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
On 2015-05-11 at 08:41:48 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon.
This is the real problem.
While it is now common for people to hide behind anonymous
ian atkinson atkin...@hotmail.com
Is over there now on a 4 week secondment, but we did not have time to
get him up to speed before he went ... He get told last week end and
flew out on the 12th. But being a mapper he may be a useful pair of eyes
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to discuss the overall
framework of how the layers of tagging evolve?
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=apartments of a residential area.
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of
'ways'. The areas I'm trying to tidy up are small shopping malls which
have shops within shops on multiple levels ... with accommodation above.
A combination of objects is just what I'm looking for, but with
different outlines for each object ...
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it's a waste of time they don't waste more ... the company is
supposedly a bunch of lawyers.
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on cheap android
devices. I've actually got it running on a £40 tablet for a bigger sat
nav display ...
All that is lacking is that other apps go to OSMAND rather than trying
to get google maps running ... which only works with a network link?
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project like OSM that can provide that service?
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, but perhaps if they all
started filling in details in India the same as we do for clients in the
UK ... they obviously have time to farm email accounts to spam ...
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for those using the maps for gaming purposes. But I don't think we
can rely on a third party like Wikidata to provide this dictionary ...
they may however parallel it's operation?
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that ... or would want to do about it on the
data!
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On 31/05/15 12:24, Andrew Hain wrote:
Does Craigslist also get oneway=-1 (traffic opposite to the direction of the
way) wrong?
And oneway:cycle=no and the like ...
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to provided
filtered live data? Should that layer be provided by a third party? I
think the answer there is probably no, but providing an interface where
third party versions of the data can be used makes sense.
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network be inside or outside
that polygon? We had the same discussion in relation to
'landuse=university' where the campus area needs an outline, but t5ere
are a lot of different 'landuse' activities within that ...
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eludes me :( Lack of time is the problem, but a
decent set of instructions to work with openstreetmap-carto and manage a
branch off the current style would be helpful!
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On 13/08/15 10:37, Daniel Koć wrote:
W dniu 13.08.2015 11:22, Lester Caine napisał(a):
producing tiles still eludes me :( Lack of time is the problem, but a
decent set of instructions to work with openstreetmap-carto and manage a
branch off the current style would be helpful!
You may try
mapping ;)
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wasting time on :(
The simple answer seems to be that there is no standard when it comes to
mapping applications and everybody creates their own personal special
such as kosmtik rather than working with established standards :(
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On 16/08/15 01:46, Paul Norman wrote:
On 8/15/2015 2:09 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
The simple answer seems to be that there is no standard when it comes to
mapping applications and everybody creates their own personal special
such as kosmtik rather than working with established standards
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for those
users ...
I've finally got a caching setup working, but it's still not ideal. I'm
still missing something on getting a clean rendering stack that can also
allow additional rendering options to be developed.
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by the main page. We need to be able to select style AND
language defaults in much the same way that projects like php provide
multiple mirrors with local translations and information.
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forward
But this is possibly not the best way of making a scale able system. It
would be better to have a single main domain which then forwards to an
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On 22/08/15 19:24, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web
services [...]
I agree that this is a problem. But not for the reasons
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structure would go to explain a few gaps
in that grid ...
I'm trying to get self sufficient, but that is simply not an easy job
with so many different tools used in the background!
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On 20/08/15 14:06, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
On 19/08/2015, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
98% of the history that we are looking to manage properly is currently
existing in OSM. All that is needed is to add start dates to the bulk of
the existing data.
What do you do when a road
to exist in ...
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involved is much less than some of the third party
data already swamping the database so what is the problem simply
properly tracking stop_date in existing rendering and leaving the
evolutionary data in tact with the current material?
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that is broken. libstxxl.a has gone missing :(
These days a 48 hour day would be helpful ...
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is what SHOULD happen, just as the underpass route should
become available in June next year.
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as separate thread, some not, and
so the mess goes on.
Sometimes I can hit 'reply to list' and just get the list address other
times it's 'reply all' and find the list as a 'cc' so it's not the list
which has a problem ... it's the whole process :(
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China?
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, but not for main stream routing
and where the likes of OSMAND simply gets the routing wrong ... as do
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then needs review ... coastal erosion etc.
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On 30/06/15 11:36, Richard Z. wrote:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 04:14:07PM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
On 29/06/15 15:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
The step from 2D to 3D would add a lot of complexity on the mappers,
narrowing down the mass of contributors potentially willing and able
content. If
you want the data that goes with a 'wikidata=*' entry then simply ask
wikidata for it. Same with wikipedia and other data sources. If you want
a sorted list get wikidata to provide it ...
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tag, or you simply read the information in wikidata/wikipedia.
2015-07-31 17:21 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
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On 31/07/15 16:09, Jo wrote:
That's what is proposed here though:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata
pages in wikipedia,
which can then be linked to OSM. Keep each project to what it is good at
and sort out procedures that direct information to the right boxes.
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On 28/07/15 10:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
but have no use as a through route?
the water will undoubtedly pass through on its route
Flow management from man made reservoirs may tend to modify that situation.
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... some abandoned lines are
not open to public access, but their existence is still real even if the
actual rail has been removed.
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' is something that should never happen on
what has at some time been correct information. 'Archive' is the correct
term and making that data available as required ... Delete is only
appropriate when the material is proven invalid.
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On 14/08/15 22:03, Ian Sergeant wrote:
On 15 August 2015 at 00:12, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
As I have said before 'Delete' is something that should never happen on
what has at some time been correct information. 'Archive' is the correct
On 14/08/15 23:14, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:13 +0100
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
But the
one thing that the current model has got the capability of handling is
start and stop dates for any facet of an object from the name of a
shop to the evolution
of 'brown' for farms around Birmingham when in
practice the whole area is mainly farmland. I'm just trying to work out
how to strip the 'farm yard' from the generic farm tagging so that
specific orchard and similar farming activity shows up better.
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been laid around here and we could have plotted their
routes as the various roads were dug up and trenches cut ...
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the whole lot on an OHM
version of the data, or one simply maintains a little more material in
the main database. The tagging decides what can be seen for a current
rendering rather than snipping out bits which still need to be
maintained for an historic one.
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