Re: [Talk-GB] Solarium vs. Sunbed Salon vs. Tanning Salon

2014-07-16 Thread SK53
I think all are acceptable. FWIW I've always followed Harry Wood's dictum and lumped these in as shop=beauty (aka Beauty Salon) possibly with a sub-tag beauty=tanning. But given the paucity of usage on taginfo.uk, I suspect I haven't been consistent. OSM Nottingham

Re: [Talk-GB] Solarium vs. Sunbed Salon vs. Tanning Salon

2014-07-16 Thread SK53
craft is fine, but the point of tagging is to make it simple for people to choose something: not to adhere to some rigorous data model. In Slide 17 of this presentation http://www.slideshare.net/SK53/gone-shopping-detailed-retail-mapping I suggested some broad groupings for retail and separated out

Re: [Talk-GB] Locally listed buildings

2014-07-09 Thread SK53
There's another option using the heritage http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage tag, which is basically corresponds to an admin_level. Personally find it a bit clunky, but it is an attempt to define a way of tagging listed buildings (etc.) on a more global basis. Jerry

[Talk-GB] New user from traveline

2014-06-30 Thread SK53
Just a link to a forum post which may be of interest: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=26029 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meeting, June 2014

2014-06-22 Thread SK53
Next Nottingham pub meeting will be this coming Tuesday at our usual venue: The Lincolnshire Poacher. I will not be at the pub until 20:00 as I plan to attend the launch of Jones the Planner's new book Towns in Britain at Nottingham Contemporary. Consequently I am not planning any pre-pub

[Talk-GB] Postcode eccentricity

2014-05-19 Thread SK53
Following on from DanS's query I came across the following wonderful postcode oddity: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.28921/-2.47207 Close inspection of the addresses I've mapped suggests that there are two No 11s and two 14s on Clover Drive. However, if you examine the data, this 11

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with May 2014 OS Locator data

2014-05-14 Thread SK53
There are at least two major streets in the middle of Nottinghamhttp://osm.org/go/eu8Y~fqF2?layers=Nlike this: logically the street does not have a name, the sides of the street have names: - North of the Council House, the S side is Smith Row, the N side is Long Row - South of the

[Talk-GB] Derby Pub meet-up May 20th (Nottingham goes to Derby)

2014-05-14 Thread SK53
Hi All, After the great turn-out in February we thought we'd take the Nottingham pub meeting to Derby this month. As the Exeter Arms was so busy, we moved the venue to the Tap, which is right next to the bridge over the Derwent on Derwent Street. (I note that someone armchaired the name back to

[Talk-GB] Iffy ways Lake District (moved from Help site)

2014-05-13 Thread SK53
Hello There, Would someone in/near the Lake District, UK care to check on four recent changesets by Sum Wum namely these :- crinkle crags and pike o blisco draft Closed about 22 hours ago · #22299350 crinkle crags close up Closed 1 day ago · #22288398 langdale map10 Closed 1 day ago · #22288304

Re: [Talk-GB] New OS Locator (201405) out, Musical Chairs updated

2014-05-11 Thread SK53
Not looked at these for a while: it's clear that OS Locator is adding more small terraces, blocks of flats etc which it didn't have. Plenty of new surveys to be done, although the hoary old ones still exist, like this one: http://ris.dev.openstreetmap.org/oslmusicalchairs/map?osl_id=780375. I've

Re: [Talk-GB] HampshireCC aerial imagery and height data

2014-05-09 Thread SK53
This data was loaded on OSM servers about a month ago as a slippy map. I need to check with Grant (Firefishy) about links etc. Jerry On 9 May 2014 00:23, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Hampshire County Council have now put their 2013 aerial imagery (plus height data

Re: [Talk-GB] 2014 OS OpenData

2014-05-09 Thread SK53
Grant normally updates it when a new release is made. Last year he did a diff between all the various releases. See: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2013-November/015526.html Jerry On 9 May 2014 09:57, tony wroblewski tony.wroblew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Does anyone

Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector

2014-05-07 Thread SK53
The 1:2500 maps, and many other large scale maps on the Warwickshire site were digitised and rectified by Landmark Information Grouphttp://www.landmark.co.uk/, who own the copyright in the images and of course in their rectified form. Landmark. Landmark have a commericial business, Old-Maps which

[Talk-GB] Next Nottingham Pub Meet-up 29th April

2014-04-23 Thread SK53
I plan the next Nottingham pub meeting for Tuesday 29th April at the Lincolnshire Poacher from 19:30. As the clocks have gone back I'll be outside at 18:30 for an hour of mapping. Current targets in the area are: - St. Ann's area to E of Mansfield Road. Still lots of detail missing. -

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Indoor walkways

2014-04-04 Thread SK53
Just to follow up Dudley's initial post: - It's clear that we need to map at least some indoor walkways and passages just to provide rational pedestrian routing. - If we want to build comprehensive sets of data for things like shopping centres then we also need a way to represent that

[Talk-GB] Cheshire Recorders Conference, Chester Zoo 26th April

2014-03-31 Thread SK53
There is a conference for people who record wildlife in Cheshire at Chester Zoo on 26th April: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zKSQDAMOK-ngilXnOLdKhre8xL-h6sG6FYvEbUhyJbM/viewform It might just be of some interest to OSMers in the local area. I get the emails because I once uploaded some

[Talk-GB] Next Nottingham Pub Meeting

2014-03-21 Thread SK53
Back in the Lincolnshire Poacher this coming Tuesday 25th March. I can give some background on last OSM Hack Weekend and interesting talks at Geomob this week in London. Cheers, Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] One for Post Box obsessives

2014-03-21 Thread SK53
I've been doing a bit of attributing to post boxes of late, and have a couple of queries: - Around Maidenhead a wall post box mounted in a brick pillar is a fairly common type. I'm at a loss as to how these might be tagged using post_box:type. A good example is SL6 4, which is tagged as

Re: [Talk-GB] One for Post Box obsessives

2014-03-21 Thread SK53
-people/304bca06b78cf4d6836adfa80a9a2188e7c713f0/ml/ On 21/03/2014 18:19, SK53 wrote: * I've been doing a bit of attributing to post boxes of late, and have a ** couple of queries: * ** Around Maidenhead a wall post box mounted in a brick pillar is a ** fairly common type. I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-07 Thread SK53
Should add there are known cases where specific trees have been EXCLUDED from mapping. The one which comes to mind is the national database of native Black Poplarshttp://sppaccounts.bsbi.org.uk/content/populus-nigra-1(*Populus nigra betulifolia*) maintained by the BSBI recorder for the taxon,

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread SK53
I dont know that we've mapped any gas lines in the UK although IIRC Helsinki is festooned with underground infrastructure on OSM. I resisted mapping the local pipework when the gas main was replaced, although all the coloured markings are still visible on the street. One thought is this area is

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread SK53
normally just delete the node. Councils also keep records of stumps, which would still have root systems. Regards, Tom On 4 March 2014 14:25, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I dont know that we've mapped any gas lines in the UK although IIRC Helsinki is festooned with underground infrastructure

Re: [Talk-GB] Derby (translocated Nottingham) Pub Meeting tonight

2014-03-01 Thread SK53
:* SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com] *Sent:* 25 February 2014 13:59 *To:* Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Derby (translocated Nottingham) Pub Meeting tonight Exeter Arms close to bus station across the Derwent, 19:30. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Hope

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing imagery

2014-03-01 Thread SK53
My impression is that the 2008 imagery (zoom 20 and 21 is still available in JOSM). It certainly would be a disappointment because the 2008 imagery was taken in good sunlight and is mostly directly overhead. Jerry On 1 March 2014 18:41, Will Phillips wp4...@gmail.com wrote: Since about last

[Talk-GB] Derby (translocated Nottingham) Pub Meeting tonight

2014-02-25 Thread SK53
Exeter Arms close to bus station across the Derwent, 19:30. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Hope to see some of you there! Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] East Midlands pub meeting

2014-02-21 Thread SK53
Just a quick reminder that the Nottingham pub meeting will be in Derby on Tuesday 25th Feb at the Exeter Arms from 19:30. ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup) I hope we might see some new faces! Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] BIS report on open national address data

2014-02-13 Thread SK53
Interesting, and a big document. Just loved this example on the last page: GRIAMACHARRY, KINBRACE, KW11 6UB, the place furthest from its postcode centroid (8 km) Yesterday, the Scottish Affairs Select Committee took evidence relating to Land Reform: but there was plenty of interesting and

Re: [Talk-GB] Glasgow Open OS Data for Open Street Map

2014-02-09 Thread SK53
Tom is quite right, this is in no way shape or form an Open Licence for the OSGB material. Nor is the Glasgow Open Licence strictly speaking Open, as it prevents use for Illegal or Immoral purposes without defining the latter. It is another pernicious OGL fork. Ironically, one of the suggested

Re: [Talk-GB] Using Open Street map for UK local government physical assets

2014-02-06 Thread SK53
Mike, Firstly, I think Tom Chance has covered all the significant issues. I'm assuming that the types of assets your potential users are interested in are of the order of schools, libraries, health facilities etc. rather than street furniture. In these categories I would estimate a typical level

Re: [Talk-GB] Confirmation of Rights of Way tags

2014-02-05 Thread SK53
I've just been looking at use of designation on taginfo UKhttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/designation#valuesand there are many not very appropriate uses. The ones which stick out to me are : permissive_bridleway (if its permissive it's not been designated), Holiday Chalet and The

[Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

2014-02-01 Thread SK53
Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs I noticed that the Silverstone GP circuit http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2259914 is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon Racecoursehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/way/111342905is tagged with leisure=track. Whereas it is true that

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

2014-02-01 Thread SK53
(trigpoint) 2014-02-01 SK53 sk53@gmail.com: Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs I noticed that the Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track. Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-30 Thread SK53
18:46, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: Of course it would be much better if everything was released under plain OGL, Indeed. Coincidently, it seems that OS is currently running a survey on the future of OS OpenData. So if anyone would like to let them know that it would be better

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-25 Thread SK53
the wiki text could be made more explicit. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 January 2014 14:25, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: By all means say OSMf/LWG consider that OSGB OGL data can be included in OSM, but I

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread SK53
For the sake of clarification: Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open Government License is not widely accepted in the community. Overall in the past 3 and a half years we have traced, imported or otherwise derived large quantities of data under this license. Mike

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread SK53
say OSMf/LWG consider that OSGB OGL data can be included in OSM, but I personally avoid doing so ... Jerry On 24 January 2014 12:58, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 January 2014 11:32, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: For the sake of clarification

Re: [Talk-GB] Bitcoin business listings

2014-01-22 Thread SK53
This is advertising pure simple. It needs to be deleted. On 22 January 2014 11:49, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: Hello, A little while ago Amaroussi posted a diary entry about people adding bitcoin payment info to OSM objects: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Amaroussi/diary/20772

[Talk-GB] January Nottingham OpenStreetMap Meeting

2014-01-17 Thread SK53
I've been somewhat remiss in sending mail out about these, and once again a couple of days have slipped from when I meant to send the message. Tuesday 21st 7:30 Lincolnshire Poacher, Mansfield Road. February's meet will be Tuesday 21st Feb somewhere in Derby (need to consult with Paul the

Re: [Talk-GB] January Nottingham OpenStreetMap Meeting

2014-01-17 Thread SK53
Just to be clear I mean Tuesday 21st January, the Feb date is for the next meeting On 17 January 2014 10:19, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I've been somewhat remiss in sending mail out about these, and once again a couple of days have slipped from when I meant to send the message. Tuesday

Re: [Talk-GB] How to reference SotM?

2013-11-01 Thread SK53
I believe that they have been split-up, but Alyssa also did a similar presentation at SotM-US which is available on both Vimeo archive.org as a standalone presentation. Jerry On 1 November 2013 18:03, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian chirita.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I can reference videos, but

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Food Hygiene Rating System

2013-10-19 Thread SK53
. thanks to sk53 for pointing out this source of information, it looks really promising :) Neil On 19 Oct 2013 14:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hi I wanted to add url links for UK Food Hygiene Rating System to restaurants cafes etc. Such as: http

[Talk-GB] Names on Power Lines

2013-10-13 Thread SK53
This morning I came across a name tag on a power linehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.18607/-1.14961. I believe this is now quite a common practice ( 8% of lines in an 3-month old data-set). Personally I deplore it: - I have never found a convenient sign on a power line giving it's

Re: [Talk-GB] Geological Data

2013-10-10 Thread SK53
I had a very brief chat with someone at SotM touching on this. I don't think the 1inch:10 mile data is at all useful in OSM: it's too generalised and would result in huge awkward to maintain polygons. However in many places the field geology is much more detailed and is both at a scale compatible

Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-purpose venues

2013-10-07 Thread SK53
I think the standard way is to map the building and add suitable nodes for the relevant functions. Sports arenas which are also used for concerts etc., are usually tagged as a sports arena (pace Wembley Stadium, National Ice Stadium etc.). A useful rule-of-thumb is to base the core tagging on the

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub meet-up Tuesday 8th October, 19:30 Lincolnshire Poacher

2013-10-07 Thread SK53
Just a reminder that we return to the city for the October pub meet-up. No planned mapping beforehand as it's getting dark now. Hope to see you tomorrow, All the best, Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] NPE data

2013-10-06 Thread SK53
In general waterways mapped with NPE will be rather inaccurate. It is more likely that this stream still exists but is perhaps as much has 200 metres away. Masses of persistent features (notably streams, but also major roads etc) were mapped from NPE maps upto around 2010 when OS OpenData and Bing

Re: [Talk-GB] Chiddingfold/Dunsfold Footpath Mapping

2013-10-02 Thread SK53
I'd be interested if enough advance notice is given! Where would the likely starting point be (I'd be coming by public transport)? Jerry On 2 October 2013 00:16, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I would be, however I'd be more keen to take my mountain bike out - there's seems to

Re: [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons

2013-10-02 Thread SK53
I think what is best is a 'world file'. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_file. I dont quite know what technology wikimedia are using, but there are some experienced wikimedians in the OSM community: Susanna Anas from Helsinki has been driving a lot of activity about using old maps from

Re: [Talk-GB] Using store locator as source

2013-09-17 Thread SK53
Just a general point about shops. There is a perfectly good OPEN data source containing address ( postcode centroid as lat/lon) available for all food outlets covering most UK local authorities. This is the Food Standards Agency's Food Hygiene Rating

Re: [Talk-GB] bing image alignment

2013-09-13 Thread SK53
AFAIK all OS StreetView tiles on OSM are projected in Spherical Mercator and this reprojection will certainly have been done using proj4, i.e, it's algorithmic not table-driven. OSSV scale is 1 pixel / metre, so accuracy is less than that. So sources of error are: - Feature generalisation in

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meet in Worksop

2013-09-09 Thread SK53
am @SK53onOSM on twitter, but Kate @wonderchook) Harry are prolific tweeters too. Hope to see many of you again (!) tomorrow. Regards, Jerry SK53 Clough ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meeting will be in Worksop on Tuesday

2013-09-08 Thread SK53
As I've been busy losing my voice by talking too much at SotM13, but I thought I'd give a little advance notice that we will have the Nottingham pub meeting in Worksop on Tuesday 10th September. This is because the OSM HOT team are staying at the Base Camp, a bunk house, in Clumber Park: and it

Re: [Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meeting will be in Worksop on Tuesday

2013-09-08 Thread SK53
Sorry that should be White Lion, and it's 500 metres from the Mallard On 8 September 2013 13:41, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: As I've been busy losing my voice by talking too much at SotM13, but I thought I'd give a little advance notice that we will have the Nottingham pub meeting

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Banquetting Halls (neither hotels, not community centres)

2013-09-01 Thread sk53.osm
I'd agree with Mike, banqueting_hall is a tad too specific, but I did like the other option of function_hall suggested by someone earlier in the thread. Event_hall is an equivalent which works fine for me too. Note that there is a cross-over to things tagged village_hall or similar, and many

Re: [Talk-GB] Grounds of Places of Worshiip when not Graveyards

2013-08-31 Thread sk53.osm
Exactly why OS Street View should only be used as a guide, not gospel. On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:21 AM, OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.comwrote: On 28 August 2013 09:50, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: new-fangled expensive wedding licences. Or telling my local vicar and his wife

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

2013-08-31 Thread sk53.osm
Open Historical Map is a sandbox environment and has only been around for a few months. It's far too early to write it off. A more reliable link is probably hosm.gwhat.com, but Jeff Meyer has been having problems with the servers recently, and it doesn't seem to up atm. Jerry On Sat, Aug 31,

Re: [Talk-GB] Lines of Trees along river banks etc.

2013-08-29 Thread sk53.osm
The entire landcover tag discussion on the wiki is a huge distraction,and not based on any objective criteria, let alone an attempt to see if what we have works. I, on the other hand, gave a paper at SotM-Eu in 2011 which showed that use of existing tags could provide a level of

Re: [Talk-GB] Grounds of Places of Worshiip when not Graveyards

2013-08-28 Thread sk53.osm
The convention exists because the grounds in which a place of worship exists are rarely places of worship themselves. Try conducting a marriage in a churchyard (probably the tag you are looking for landuse=churchyardhttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=churchyard, to heavily used but in

Re: [Talk-GB] Grounds of Places of Worshiip when not Graveyards

2013-08-28 Thread sk53.osm
) seems unusually clunky. Jerry On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:41 PM, OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.comwrote: On 28 August 2013 09:50, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: churchyard (probably the tag you are looking for landuse=churchyard, to heavily used but in existence) instead of a church

Re: [Talk-GB] Lines of Trees along river banks etc.

2013-08-28 Thread sk53.osm
I don't think these are hedgerows at all. They are really relict river gallery woodland (usually *Salicion albae,* NVChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodland_and_scrub_communities_in_the_British_National_Vegetation_Classification_systemW6) and I would expect are mainly Willows with the odd Poplar

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN Stops and Hail and Ride Buses

2013-08-24 Thread sk53.osm
I doubt if anyone checks the Naptan account: it's an import account largely to separate personal mapping from imports. Furthermore I don't know how active the user who co-ordinated the imports is these days: info is available on the wiki. I don't think either OSM or NaPTAN ever came up with a

Re: [Talk-GB] Phone numbers in little England

2013-08-22 Thread sk53.osm
IIRC virtually every round of phone number expansion has not been very forward looking. I think Ovum did the consultancy on the first onehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhONEday: just adding a '1' on the front of each STD code, which was obviously a kludge. I vaguely remember the London 01 = 071,081

[Talk-GB] UK National Borehole DB

2013-08-22 Thread sk53.osm
I'm awaiting all the bad jokes, but have just noticed that the IGS National Borehole database is available under OGL: http://www.bgs.ac.uk/data/boreholescans/ I've used this before for local history stuff, and a friend who has an amateur interest in hydrology worked out all sorts of things from

Re: [Talk-GB] Phone numbers in little England

2013-08-22 Thread sk53.osm
databases have a DATE data type (or one of the many variations like DATETIME or TIMESTAMP). Why not apply the same principle to phone numbers? Colin On 2013-08-22 14:35, sk53.osm wrote: IIRC virtually every round of phone number expansion has not been very forward looking. I think Ovum

Re: [Talk-GB] Phone numbers in little England

2013-08-22 Thread sk53.osm
As the NSA clearly don't process their data according to E.164 (otherwise how could they confuse Washington DC area code with Egypt), I think we can skip it too! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: ** I am not sure what your issue was with highway=path

[Talk-GB] Nottingham pub meet-up Tuesday 13th August

2013-08-12 Thread sk53.osm
Just a quick reminder that this is scheduled for tomorrow at 19:30. Notionally an OSM 9th Birthday event: not sure if there will be cake. Details on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

2013-07-30 Thread sk53.osm
time to time. Jerry On Jul 29, 2013 12:20 PM, Phil Endecott spam_from_os...@chezphil.org wrote: sk53.osm wrote: Overview of missing Derbyshire footpaths: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**sk53_osm/9390856924/http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/9390856924/ Interesting. I think you're

Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

2013-07-28 Thread sk53.osm
Hmm, I have sitting on my desktop a whole load of QGIS analyses of OSM designation=* against the DCC rowmap TAB file, but as I'm on my way to SotM Baltics wont write this up until I get back. I haven't looked in detail, but basic use of buffers seems to grab most matching footpaths (buffer OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

2013-07-28 Thread sk53.osm
Overview of missing Derbyshire footpaths: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/9390856924/ Jerry On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:33 PM, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I have sitting on my desktop a whole load of QGIS analyses of OSM designation=* against the DCC rowmap TAB file

[Talk-GB] Nottingham pub meet-up Tuesday 9th July

2013-07-08 Thread sk53.osm
Just a reminder that tomorrow is the monthly Nottingham pub meet-up. Lincolnshire Poacher, 18:30 for mapping; 19:30 for beer / chat etc. I'm keen to continue mapping in the Carrington area as it is more of a commercial area than I had expected. Perhaps we could divide up and each do one of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meetup restarting

2013-06-10 Thread sk53.osm
at 11:28 AM, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: Given that SotM-US has been running over this weekend, there's probably a few of the talks which will be of interest to anyone. So far the one's I think are worth a discussion over a pint are: - Mikel Maron's talk on community

Re: [Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meetup restarting

2013-06-09 Thread sk53.osm
about OSM in general. Jerry On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:00 PM, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: I've put dates in the wiki for next 3 months of Nottingham pub meetings: next Tuesday 11th July 9th August 13th All will be at 19:30 at the Lincolnshire Poacher. A mapping activity for an hour

Re: [Talk-GB] SOTM Presentation idea - Council footpath data - comments?

2013-06-09 Thread sk53.osm
Hi Nick, I went out doing a bit of footpath surveying the other day ended up doing several submissions to the county council website: mainly about missing signage. Also rather irritating was that a couple of paths marked on (a recent) OS map do not exist, so one would want to feedback to them.

Re: [Talk-GB] Current status on UK Council footpath data

2013-06-06 Thread sk53.osm
Hi Nick, We have Open Data locally for Nottingham ProW (significant because the city was exempt from maintaining a definitive map until recently). So far all I have done is added ref information to paths already mapped. Even with open data the situation is still confusing: for instance a footpath

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meetup restarting

2013-06-06 Thread sk53.osm
I've put dates in the wiki for next 3 months of Nottingham pub meetings: next Tuesday 11th July 9th August 13th All will be at 19:30 at the Lincolnshire Poacher. A mapping activity for an hour beforehand (which may start from somewhere else) Details on the wiki:

Re: [Talk-GB] Ffordd Llundain incorrectly named in many places in Lloegr

2013-06-01 Thread sk53.osm
. Do you really need to print this email? -- *From:* sk53.osm [sk53@gmail.com] *Sent:* 31 May 2013 22:38 *To:* Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Ffordd Llundain incorrectly named in many places in Lloegr I notice that many highways

Re: [Talk-GB] Obstructed Rights of Way

2013-05-30 Thread sk53.osm
I had this problem in Carmarthenshirehttp://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2011/07/footpaths-in-carmarthenshire-whats-point.htmla couple of years ago. I chose not to mark this on OSM because in practice the footpaths are non-existent. Also at least one ran through the front garden of one of my sister's

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread sk53.osm
I don't think Richard's original post was an invitation to discuss arcane quirks of Britain's historical railway system. I have raised the issue of wholesale tag changing several times recently, and as this tagging is clearly not with the consensus of mappers either in the UK or elsewhere, I

Re: [Talk-GB] associatedParking relation

2013-05-13 Thread sk53.osm
the parking relates (actually business may do perfectly well!) On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:41 PM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: The only thing I'm not sure about is having the role of the owning entity blank. Any

Re: [Talk-GB] Usage of lanes / turn restrictions versus multiple ways when road is not divided

2013-05-07 Thread sk53.osm
Like others I agree that split roads must have some absolute barrier between them. If there is a traffic jam and it is possible to do a U-turn then the road should not be split. There are however a number of cases which might be a bit harder to call. I notice a revised road layout yesterday where

[Talk-GB] Tidying up some shop tags

2013-05-05 Thread sk53.osm
I propose to tidy up some shop=* tag values. I am not certain of the full scope, but here are ones I do know about: - to shop=bookmaker from bookmakers, bookies, Bookmaker, Bookmakers, bookmarkers,turf_accountant [shop=betting has nearly as many uses as shop=bookmaker, and shop=gambling

[Talk-GB] Copyright Statutory Highway Registers

2013-05-01 Thread sk53.osm
This is a follow-up to my recent postings on refs on tertiaries and unclassified roads. This is not a whinge it is about a potentially serious issue. I have been looking at websites for a number of Local Authorities to see if their statutory register of Highways has been licensed with a suitable

Re: [Talk-GB] Natural England Data

2013-05-01 Thread sk53.osm
The license terms seem fairly straightforward despite them adding Natural England in front of the name of each license. Virtually all the data of interest has been compiled from OSGB data (not maps, but probably using vector data) and therefore under current terms is released under the OSGB

Re: [Talk-GB] walls versus landuse=field

2013-04-30 Thread sk53.osm
Well I'm definitely in favour of mapping the boundary ways: hedges, fences, walls. I do not see any general value in mapping fields one by one, unless there are particular cultural reasons (for instance the Cheshire Cheese in Hope, Derbyshire, has maps showing all the historical field names on

[Talk-GB] Complaining about refs on roads again!

2013-04-30 Thread sk53.osm
This adding of refs on roads is getting ridiculous. I just was geotagging some photos and I noticed this: http://osm.org/go/eu1a7D4X. A number of unclassified residential roads have been tagged in Cheshire (can't remember which one it is because this is on the border) with obviously internal

Re: [Talk-GB] Writing a howto wiki page for mapping golf courses

2013-04-30 Thread sk53.osm
Have you seen Richard Weait's page on this subject : http://weait.com/node/21. And fewer of those named ways to make the hole names look nice :-) Jerry On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, I have been spending a lot of time looking at

Re: [Talk-GB] walls versus landuse=field

2013-04-30 Thread sk53.osm
This is quite reasonable, although as I use farmland for all agriculture (but not viticulture or orchards) I had never appreciated that it seems to have become synonymous with arable. I still think landuse=farmland, farmland=arable is a better way of tagging ( a tad friendlier to data consumers).

Re: [Talk-GB] walls versus landuse=field

2013-04-30 Thread sk53.osm
This is one of the calcareous grasslands; downland sounds good, although chalk_downland might be more precise. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM, David Fisher djfishe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, This feels like an appropriate thread to butt into and ask: is there an accepted tag for grassy

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Using rights of way data

2013-04-28 Thread sk53.osm
-- Forwarded message -- From: sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Using rights of way data To: Will Phillips wp4...@gmail.com Will, The OSGB license is the one we have been using for StreetView, Locator etc. AFAIK the main issue

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

2013-04-25 Thread sk53.osm
. Obviously I will now have to make my intentions absolutely explict with notes etc., which rather defeats the point of tags. Perhaps I should use SK53:natural=wood and then they won't get trampled on. The problem is that you are anxious for everything to be rendered in a uniform manner, but you

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

2013-04-25 Thread sk53.osm
I think JonathanB is spot on here: if the original landuse tags had been landuse=forestry, landuse=farming; landuse=selling_things;landuse=office_drudgery and so on, the widespread confusion between landuse (usually can be denoted by an abstract noun), and natural or landcover (which can usually

Re: [Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags

2013-04-24 Thread sk53.osm
I've added the Ladies (Pans) Course at Machrihanishhttp://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?q=machrihanishzoom=16lat=55.42622lon=-5.72159layers=B0Fand the 1st 18th of the Championship course. I can't remember where all the tees are, and as for many links courses, fairways are often shared between holes.

[Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

2013-04-24 Thread sk53.osm
I notice that there have been a large number of mass edits of tags associated with either land cover or land use recently. Some may indeed be useful corrections, but altering all natural=meadow to landuse=meadow probably interferes with the intentions of the original mapper: meadows can be created

[Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread sk53.osm
OSGB has just tweeted it's 10 fascinating facts. I thought it would be fun to compare with OSM 1. Pylons: 80,517 ; 58,487 (OSMhttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=tower#values ) 2. Post Boxes: 93.728 (OSGB); 42,742 (OSMhttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=post_box#values

[Talk-GB] Refs on Tertiary Unclassifed Roads in Highland

2013-03-17 Thread sk53.osm
I've noticed that many minor roads in the Highland Region of Scotland have been tagged with ref=[CU] based on a PDF document from the regions transport department. I've altered a few of these where I've encountered them to official:ref=* as I don't believe that these are verifiable on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Refs on Tertiary Unclassifed Roads in Highland

2013-03-17 Thread sk53.osm
: sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed that many minor roads in the Highland Region of Scotland have been tagged with ref=[CU] based on a PDF document from the regions transport department. I've altered a few of these where I've encountered them to official:ref=* as I

[Talk-GB] OSM-GB (was Branding)

2013-02-23 Thread sk53.osm
about how they work. The branding issue is something else again. Does anyone else have any thoughts? Jerry Clough SK53 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-07 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 05/07/2011 10:51, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Tom Chance wrote: So I suspect it's potentially breaching copyright, and a matter of judgement as to whether it's worth the risk. For example, if you were copying in data from a commercial web site whose business model was based around that data

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meet-up Tuesday 21st June: reminder

2011-06-20 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
To my horror I see that I did't update the mani wiki page when I changed the calendar. Many apologies. Let me know if this is now too short notice. Just a quick reminder, that this is scheduled for 19:30 tomorrow, meet up at 18:30 for mapping walk outside the Lincolnshire Poacher. Wiki page:

Re: [Talk-GB] Woodland Trust and Open Data

2011-06-16 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 16/06/2011 15:31, TimSC wrote: My communication recent with the woodland trust, regarding open data: It would be good if you could do more on data openness - that is more permissive permissions to use data on your web site. Also it would be good to be able to upload creative commons

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